Reason to Root Fold 2 - Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 2 Questions & Answers

I have an unlocked Fold 2 from Samsung. I love the idea of rooting and having full access/control over a device I own, but it has been years since I rooted a phone. Recently my needs have changed and I find I am thinking about rooting again. Just curious if the below reasons are worth rooting and if rooting will even help or would I need to root and load a a custom rom?
1st I need to disable the 5g radio on my phone. I live and work in an area with poor 5g coverage, but have just enough that the phone can see it and try's to default to it and ends up providing far worse connectivity than the LTE that is steller in my area. AT&T is who I use and they have disabled this feature in their portion of the firmware. I can plug in a buddies T mobile sim and after reboot have access to the menu that allows me to pick LTE and my preferred connection type but not on AT&T.
2nd This is less of a concern as I have work arounds, but I would like to remove any and all carrier control of my device. In particular their ability to monitor and dictate how I use my data, i.e. wifi/BT/usb tethering. Like I said I have a work around but its fiddly.
3rd I would like to be able to run full weight cellular diagnostic tools on my phone as well as have full access to the USSD dialer codes.
Can these things be done after rooting and or loading a custom rom, in particular on the Fold 2? I have been searching for a bit, but can't seem to target my search to just this thread as I end up having to sort through a dozen other threads. I can work my way through rooting my phone and loading a rom, just curious which apps and or roms to look for once I have rooted. Any feedback would be much appreciated.

Ok how about this. Can anybody point me to a location that can help me figure out how to removed carrier specific configurations once rooted? I want to disable my 5g radio on my fold 2. This is something that can be done when it has a T Mobile sim, but not an AT&T sim.

Redtick said:
Ok how about this. Can anybody point me to a location that can help me figure out how to removed carrier specific configurations once rooted? I want to disable my 5g radio on my fold 2. This is something that can be done when it has a T Mobile sim, but not an AT&T sim.
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You should google harder dude
You could just Flash an international firmware of an un-carrier branded software, they can be found here - https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-z-fold-2-5g/firmware/#SM-F916B
Try this app - ESET USSD Control : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eset.securedialer&hl=en&gl=US
Disable 5G radio :
Settings -> Connections -> Mobile Networks : Change the network mode
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Sorry about the googling... Could only find and confirm that it was locked on att phones. As I have an unlocked variant I was not sure why I was having that problem. Thanks for the tip on F916B I did not know I could load that on the F916U1, I will look more into that. But again I thought the F916U1 from Samsung was unbranded.
Thanks for the software link.

Redtick said:
I have an unlocked Fold 2 from Samsung. I love the idea of rooting and having full access/control over a device I own, but it has been years since I rooted a phone. Recently my needs have changed and I find I am thinking about rooting again. Just curious if the below reasons are worth rooting and if rooting will even help or would I need to root and load a a custom rom?
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I have been an XDA Forums member for about 10 years and have enjoyed countless custom ROM on dozens of devices ... here is my opinion ...
In 2020 there is ZERO point in rooting a phone. Full stop. The end.
Edit: no point whilst the manufacturer is still providing software updates & support

Fair point... Is there a means by which I can manual control the radios in my phone without rooting? For example sending custom crafted AT commands to the radio to do things like IMSI masking, band switching, and most importantly band aggregation commands.

dezborders said:
I have been an XDA Forums member for about 10 years and have enjoyed countless custom ROM on dozens of devices ... here is my opinion ...
In 2020 there is ZERO point in rooting a phone. Full stop. The end.
Edit: no point whilst the manufacturer is still providing software updates & support
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i am sorry but as I upgraded OS I encounter more and more issues in termux most of good things require root now IMO its on the contrary more needed to root your device

BeRkCaN said:
i am sorry but as I upgraded OS I encounter more and more issues in termux most of good things require root now IMO its on the contrary more needed to root your device
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Everyone's mileage may vary but I stand by what is said ... For me, I see ZERO need to root on Samsung android 10 or 11

If you had asked me a few years back, what I would do with a brand new android phone out of the box and I would have said "root". I think the last phone I rooted was note 8, out of habit and that voided my warranty and I didn't gain anything in return... almost everything I used to do, can be done without root. Ad blocking via disconnect pro and netguard, to disable apps, use ccswe (as long as knox licence isn't revoked), youtube vanced to fine tune adfree youtube, naptime for putting device to quick deep sleeps, side actions to configure power button behaviour etc... these were probably the things I could have only achieved with root earlier.

I personally rooted my Samsung Fold 2 just so I can degoogle it. I cant stand big tech so for me it was worth doing

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[Q] how can we disable carrier iq and other related tracking software?

Hey just wondering how to get this crap of my phone. Don't want to be tracked in anyway.
WWW.carrieriq.com
Thanks in advance
How do you know its definitely installed? ..
Also I'm guessing your device is currently unrooted, which means chances are you won't be able to remove it. Unless you choose to root your phone.
Apart from that, the fact you have a mobile at all means you can be tracked ,just from the cell you are using to make or receive calls or txts
Excuse me sir, I seem to have misplaced my hat.
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Excuse me sir, I seem to have misplaced my hat.
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I'm not paranoid ,just stating a fact .. Don't give a flying one who knows where i am lol
Lol sorry mate, that was actually directed at OP, not at you. I've never been overly worried as to location collection via my mobile phone(s), purely because pin pointing your exact location using the tower can be rather difficult.
det66 said:
I'm not paranoid ,just stating a fact .. Don't give a flying one who knows where i am lol
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This information is used by our customers as a mission critical tool to improve the profitability of the network by invasion of privacy, understand device issues like imbedded spyware and ultimately improve the collection of user’s info. Our software is embedded by device manufacturers along with other diagnostic tools and software normally called viruses prior to shipment.
While we look at many aspects of a device’s performance, we are counting and summarizing performance, not recording keystrokes or providing tracking tools yet.
All this and more and we haven’t been sued yet, or any of our customers, for online stalking and the illegal distribution of information because the user signs away its rights when it buys that much needed mobile device.
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I don't to be tracked no matter what. Thought you people would have understood that, guess I was wrong.
Short of not owning a mobile, flashing a custom rom will get rid of the HTC apps and widgets on the stock rom that has far, far too many permissions. Same with carrier apps, since they too mine data from the device in question. The peep, facebook, HTC power control and HTC calendar apps in particular required a disturbing amount of permissions to run. Part of the reason why I rooted and flashed to CM 7.1, actually. It has phone goggles and permission controlling built it actually, so it can be a safe, user controlled, relatively tracking free experience.
Hope this helps.
Oh to add, just rooting the phone will allow you to uninstall ANY app on the phone. But I think this can have a detrimental effect at times, since some of the apps tie in with the stock sense rom, which could have the consequence of having a unstable, buggy, crash prone device of your own making. Could be wrong though.
cheers mate, phone has been rooted for some time now but I thought you guys might be more specific about which files need to be deleted as to avoid detection.
I use startpage instead of google but I don't think that makes much difference.
I know it's definitely being done with i-phones and google is doing it with android devices
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/mac...-you-care/1109
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...s-company.html
http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/04/app...-tracking.html
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/...hone-tracking/
http://gizmodo.com/5793925/your-ipho...ere-youve-been
http ://news.yahoo. com/ smartphone-spying-204933867. html
well its true now as to how to remove this goofy thing is dif story.
im pretty sure nobody in this forum thinks this is acceptable!
had to put in spaces due to im a NOOB!
I've read (Engadget or Lifehacker - I forgot) that this is only on stock ROMs.
according to one article
it looks like Android phones from Sprint have a keylogger and deep-packet inspector factory-installed, and you can't remove it without exchanging a chip.
Carrier IQ Video Shows Alarming Capabilities Of Mobile Tracking Software
You may be aware of the growing controversy surrounding Carrier IQ, a piece of software found pre-installed on Sprint phones that, according to developers who have investigated, is capable of detecting, recording, and transmitting various user actions and inputs. Among the data CIQ potentially has access to are location, SMS, apps, and key presses.
News of the software has been percolating for months on development forums, but when Trevor Eckhart recently summarized his findings, he found himself facing a cease and desist while Sprint vigorously denied the charges, saying “We do not and cannot look at the contents of messages, photos, videos, etc., using this tool.”
The C&D was quickly retracted, but Eckhart has now released a video that seems to give the lie to both Sprint and Carrier IQ’s assurances.
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more here http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/29/ca...ing-capabilities-of-mobile-tracking-software/
from about 5 mins in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T17XQI_AYNo&feature=player_embedded#
already an xda article on it
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-rootkit-of-all-evil-ciq/
Note also that if you're running an Android Open Source Project (AOSP) based ROM—like CyanogenMod—you do not have Carrier IQ installed on your system. These apps are based on the original, open source version of Android, and don't include any carrier or manufacturer additions like Carrier IQ. If you're using a modded version of your manufacturer's ROM, however—for example, a modded HTC Sense or Samsung TouchWiz ROM—you could still have it installed. To avoid this, either flash AOSP based ROMs, or flash ROMs with Carrier IQ specifically removed (many will say NOCIQ or something similar on their description pages).
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makes sense.
Interested in your thoughts on this comment
The application accessibility will close on the phone, however the data will still be left behind as residual storage in the same way every computer in the work can leave behind traceable history even if you physically delete everything from the hard-drive. It only takes a external programmer from a wifi connection to gain access onto the phone (even when its turned off) and they are able to uplink all that information stored on the phones memory aswell as call/storeage/user memory.
Its protected by internal security devices from external attacks, however it doesn't stop the phone companies from getting into your data anytime, anywhere, without your permission. At least with computers you can be protected from such external hacking by setting up a proxy or multiple firewalls (however even this isn't a guarantee.)
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Check out my posting!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20281786#post20281786
there is also an app called logging test app which will do the same it's by treve here at xda check it out as well.
The Desire S shouldn't have carrier IQ, at it's mostly US phones which have it. The UK phones do not.

The future of phones is coming

The future of cellphones and cellphone plans along-side android to give you infinite possibility! And it is going to be epic!
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Here we have what Google owned Motorola has created with Project Ara. A concept to bring the flexibility and open source that Google's android brought to software to the hardware side. A modular phone that you can customize. Why buy a new phone when you can just upgrade the one you have?
Build it to your liking, take it apart and build it better! And there even bring the ability use your 3D printer to customize it (I know you all have a 3D printer by now.... Right?)
Then we have the Build your own phone plan by Zact.
Currently on the sprint network, (I hope they expend or someone picks up on this and moves to something with a bit more... SERVICE.) You can pick how many minutes, text messages, and Mb of data you have or don't have, each month. If your realize that you need more minutes, text, or Mb, you just click a button and add them. If you have extra they roll over. How can it get any better? Oh, you have kids? You can set times, and limits on EVERYTHING! or don't. Your choice, and that's what makes it AMAZING.
All this mixed in with Android, makes it the perfect phone to build and create anything you can imagine in a phone. Unfortunately, I don't see Zact adding this phone to its list of phones for sale anytime soon, and currently Zact has "custom software" that means you can only buy there phones for there plans, and you can't install custom roms or anything that might cause the software to stop working because it would leave you left with a brick, and they do not have insurance. But... where there is android, there are devs and devs can do anything with time and support.
So, the future of cell phones is looking promising. If there are enough people interested in this stuff, support the developers. Comment on the xda forums and let them know that you want them to support Zact phones. Lets get the ball rolling on this.
I am starting my Zact plan for Christmas, and I will be flashing my prl's to roam because as of now, Zact roaming is free and roaming services at my house is better then sprint service.
The future looks promising! Let me know what you guys think!
future
nice phone...
Don't forget to help support project Ara on their dScout page!:good:
I got my phones a few days ago, it only took 2 weeks... I started it up, ran through the setup, wasnt thinking but aloud the OTA to run. I ran cf auto root, noticed I still didnt have su so I installed superuser from the appstore and checked root with root checker. Nothing. Then I remembered that I installed the OTA to 4.3 but forgot about Knox because I had not had to deal with it prior. I did just about everything I could think of. I also found that trying to retrieve your msl/spc is a lot harder. I am unable to get into the qualcomm usb menu because it asked for the msl, Most hidden menus are asking for msl. I attempted to install twrp but it says there is no recover found for my device. I cant connect it to dfs or cdma workshop. adb sees it, but I dont know much about adb so I want able to do much with it. I was however able to copy the ZACT mobile apk from the phone and install it to another phone. It is unstable and FC alot. My other phone sees it as a launcer like touchwiz or nova. Thought this would be a good idea to see what the apk itself controls on another phone. I am not a developer. I am computer savy and have been playing with flashing for a long time. If anyone is interested in teaching me a little, I would like make a backup of the rom. Is there a way to pull the full rom with pre-installed apks, I can factory rest back to start and just see whats available. I'd like to attempt to flash it to my old s3 make a clone kinda. So i can test an play with one without damaging my daily phone. Any thoughts or ideas on what to test let me know.
Nice
Just to set the record straight...in no way did Motorola create this idea. This was a concept created by Dave Hakkens. His concept was called Phonebloks. Motorola did some sort of deal to license the concept or something. Just don't go around saying someone created something when they didn't...its like saying Apple made the smartphone.
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Good to know thank you for setting me straight me v
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Strange....
Update
Please go to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48609960#post48609960 for updates on My current status of root and flashing my zact s3 phones.
Wow
Cant wait to put my hands on one of these
It's like watching a movie, with Da Vinci and Einstein working together, with Tesla support, and Edison make the stuff :v
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:good: lol
Nice....
Yeah I hEard Obout This ! Pretty Cool

[TUT] How to bypass FRP (verify your account) on LG V10 running Nougat

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Factory Reset Protection (FRP) is a security method that was designed to make sure someone can't just wipe and factory reset your phone if you've lost it or it was stolen. Starting with Android Lollipop, FRP is "standard" in vanilla Android, and most companies making our phones have implemented it in their own models. It's a good thing — it makes a stolen phone harder to use, which makes it less appealing to thieves, and anything that can protect our data on a phone we've lost is welcome.
The problem is that people are selling or trading or even giving away phones with FRP enabled and this makes things difficult for the next user.
I found myself in this predicament recently having purchased a used LG V10 and, being in a rush, I flashed a factory KDZ on the device. Needless to say, I could do nothing with the phone once I rebooted - I was stuck on the proverbial "Verify your account" prompt.
If you reset a phone with FRP enabled, you have to provide the user name and password for the last Google account that was registered with the device. There are tons of random work-arounds on the Internet, but they tend to get patched almost as soon as they are discovered. You'll pretty much need to know the login details for the last account to use the phone before you can do anything with it if FRP was enabled before you reset it.
A quick XDA search turns up some 13000+ hits pertaining to "frp v10 verify account" and it takes time to try them all. The truth is that most were exploits geared for Android versions prior to Nougat and, even those which claimed to fix the problem for Android 7 no longer worked due to changes LG likely made between the 30B and 30C updates.
To make a long story short I finally found one method that worked. I got the device back and fully functional. Although I have only tried this on the 901H (T-Mobile variant) it may well work on any V10 running LG's version of Nougat (30C). If you try it and it fails or works you should let people know which variant and how you made out.
The solution for the V10 devices is documented in this video.
The ADB command line used is in the comments of the video but for ease of use this is it:
Code:
adb shell content insert --uri co-ntent://settings/secure --bind name:s:user_setup_complete --bind value:s:1
If you have another method that you have tried and know works on this specific device, by all means, do tell.
It is nice to have the device I legitimately bought working again!
Help
My LG V10 is missing the USB port. Is there an alternative way?
Lrrrrr said:
My LG V10 is missing the USB port. Is there an alternative way?
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If your V10 is running the 30C version of Nougat I have not found another working method. With other versions of Android there may be more choices.
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Mine is actually running version 30B
NYLimited said:
Factory Reset Protection (FRP) is a security method that was designed to make sure someone can't just wipe and factory reset your phone if you've lost it or it was stolen. Starting with Android Lollipop, FRP is "standard" in vanilla Android, and most companies making our phones have implemented it in their own models. It's a good thing — it makes a stolen phone harder to use, which makes it less appealing to thieves, and anything that can protect our data on a phone we've lost is welcome.
The problem is that people are selling or trading or even giving away phones with FRP enabled and this makes things difficult for the next user.
I found myself in this predicament recently having purchased a used LG V10 and, being in a rush, I flashed a factory KDZ on the device. Needless to say, I could do nothing with the phone once I rebooted - I was stuck on the proverbial "Verify your account" prompt.
If you reset a phone with FRP enabled, you have to provide the user name and password for the last Google account that was registered with the device. There are tons of random work-arounds on the Internet, but they tend to get patched almost as soon as they are discovered. You'll pretty much need to know the login details for the last account to use the phone before you can do anything with it if FRP was enabled before you reset it.
A quick XDA search turns up some 13000+ hits pertaining to "frp v10 verify account" and it takes time to try them all. The truth is that most were exploits geared for Android versions prior to Nougat and, even those which claimed to fix the problem for Android 7 no longer worked due to changes LG likely made between the 30B and 30C updates.
To make a long story short I finally found one method that worked. I got the device back and fully functional. Although I have only tried this on the 901H (T-Mobile variant) it may well work on any V10 running LG's version of Nougat (30C). If you try it and it fails or works you should let people know which variant and how you made out.
The solution for the V10 devices is documented in this video.
The ADB command line used is in the comments of the video but for ease of use this is it:
If you have another method that you have tried and know works on this specific device, by all means, do tell.
It is nice to have the device I legitimately bought working again!
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I grp bypassed my verizon lg g7 thinq through an exploit using wifi with a dead sim card. I basically found a way through youtube and google settings and i never once used any kind of downloaded app. Im on 9.0 pie. This was acheived about 15 minutes ago. It took 5 days to get it. But if you get at me tomorrow I will share what I did through step bu step instructions.
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I grp bypassed my verizon lg g7 thinq through an exploit using wifi with a dead sim card. I basically found a way through youtube and google settings and i never once used any kind of downloaded app. Im on 9.0 pie. This was acheived about 15 minutes ago. It took 5 days to get it. But if you get at me tomorrow I will share what I did through step bu step instructions.
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tooo bad you wil likely never see this - as im VERY curious as to whats up with a dead sim somehow allowing a frp bypass!!

ROMs with Verizon network support

Didn't forsee this being an issue once I got the bootloader unlocked. Is there a list of ROMs with Verizon network support?
calripkenturner said:
Didn't forsee this being an issue once I got the bootloader unlocked. Is there a list of ROMs with Verizon network support?
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I've never found a list. Carbon ROM is the only one that works for me with my Verizon MVNO. The Dev explained to me that Verizon is a "black box" and developers have to best guess to make things work.
Several years ago I moved from Sprint (CDMA like Verizon) to then Metro PCS (GSM) when I first came to XDA because of the incompatibility of many roms. Because most the world uses GSM... I would ask someone who knows exactly what to do to make Verizon work and try and master whatever that may be. Back in the day (NexusS4G days, Nexus 5) people who used Sprint, we had a zip we'd flash at the end of our installation and it would set the proper apns needed for us to have data. But I believe there is more to it with Verizon....
I have a OnePlus 6t now and I see many people with same issues and they have no data. Something with the phone not being able to read the sim card from what I've heard... I sent someone in 6t forums directions on how to swap apns-conf.xml and he said it didn't work and told me it was something else ...
If ypu want you can try this:
Save your apns-conf.xml located in your /system/product/etc/ while you are on Carbon rom and have working data. Then when you flash another rom delete the two existing files that are in the rom that has no data. So delete both the apns-conf.xml located in /system/product/etc/ and also located in your /product/etc/ and replace only the one in /system/product/etc/ with your working apns-conf.xml from Carbon rom that you had data working on. Then set permissions on the one you pasted in to 0644 using root explorer or whatever root file manager you use. After that go to settings/networks and internet/mobile networks/access point names/ and select the three dot and select "reset to default." If this is indeed an APN issue this will fix it and give you working data. Give it 2-3 minutes after you reset the APN to default. If you see LTE/5G pop up in your status bar, reboot and you'll be good from then on. That is, "if" this is an APN issue. If not then at least you tried something. I used this method MANY times on different devices and different carriers over the years and it always worked for me when I have no data after installing a rom. I'll attach some pics of permissions 0644 and all to this post. Credit for this goes to spaceminer where I first discovered this apn xml data fix.
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flash713 said:
Several years ago I moved from Sprint (CDMA like Verizon) to then Metro PCS (GSM) when I first came to XDA because of the incompatibility of many roms.
Thanks for the info. I'll copy and paste to my computer so I'll have it if needed. Then I won't be scratching my head at two in the morning " what did that guy say..."
Right now everything works fine, but in the future, who knows?
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From what I've researched so far it seems the issue only really relates to A11 and will be fixed when OOS is out of closed beta. Verizon is terrible about relinquishing control for devices they don't even own anymore. I've tried a few A10 roms and haven't really had any trouble. Supposedly KangOS got verizon data working on A11 but when I flashed it wasn't working, so maybe an older build.
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From what I've researched so far it seems the issue only really relates to A11 and will be fixed when OOS is out of closed beta. Verizon is terrible about relinquishing control for devices they don't even own anymore. I've tried a few A10 roms and haven't really had any trouble. Supposedly KangOS got verizon data working on A11 but when I flashed it wasn't working, so maybe an older build.
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Good luck with big red
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Good luck with big red
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Yeah, they're freaking terrible.

Is rooting the 8t even worth the trouble?

If I just want to install a custom ROM, some basic FOSS apps and maybe TWRP and then install a ROM update a couple of times a year, is there anything that I would need root permission for? If I don't root the phone what am I losing out on? Is it just that I would be able to get a more complete backup with root access? So many "Top 10 reasons" articles make it sound like root is required to install a ROM but that's obviously not the case with the OnePlus 8T.
Time and it may prove harder to troubleshoot.
If you get stupid, malware or a rootkit might get in.
If you wanna play god you better know what your doing. It's almost impossible to crash a stock Android. Not so with a rooted phone, and that's assuming you don't inadvertently brick it while rooting. I've lost count of all the "I bricked my phone" threads here.
I don't root as my stock N10+'s run well, fullfill their mission and are reasonably secure even with outdated firmware. Simply not worth the time and the risk of destroying a valuable device that's notoriously hard to root (in my case) for the gains I would get.
FakeGemstone said:
If I just want to install a custom ROM, some basic FOSS apps and maybe TWRP and then install a ROM update a couple of times a year, is there anything that I would need root permission for? If I don't root the phone what am I losing out on? Is it just that I would be able to get a more complete backup with root access? So many "Top 10 reasons" articles make it sound like root is required to install a ROM but that's obviously not the case with the OnePlus 8T.
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With an unlocked bootloader and no root, you won't be able to:
- use banking apps, Netflix, or any app that requires the device passing SafetyNet.
- fully backup/restore your apps and their data.
blackhawk said:
I don't root as my stock N10+'s run well, fullfill their mission and are reasonably secure even with outdated firmware. Simply not worth the time and the risk of destroying a valuable device that's notoriously hard to root (in my case) for the gains I would get.
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Were I planning to keep my OnePlus 8T with the stock OS, I suppose having root access would at least allow me to turn off some of the more annoying bloatware such as Zen. But with my older OnePlus, like you, I've chosen to tolerate the annoyances because introducing Magisk seems like it would be a make-work project for the life of the phone.
On the new phone I'm planning to switch out the operating system so if ever I was going to root a phone, this would be the time. I'm still thinking it over, especially the backup question. I don't keep anything important on my phone so if I had to rebuild it after a wipe it would be time consuming but eventually I'd get everything back to the way it was, I think.
Thank you for your reply; it was good to hear the perspective of someone from the non-rooted camp.
BillGoss said:
With an unlocked bootloader and no root, you won't be able to:
- use banking apps, Netflix, or any app that requires the device passing SafetyNet.
- fully backup/restore your apps and their data.
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Thank you, kind Sir, for this summary explanation. It confirms my rather fuzzy understanding of the main reason people put so much work into maintaining root, i.e. banking apps and Netflix.
I don't use my phone for either so I guess it comes down deciding whether or not having a backup of a few really basic FOSS apps (and contact list?) would be worth the complexity of Magisk.
Maybe the thing to do would be, set up the phone with the custom ROM and apps, use it for a couple of weeks until I get comfortable with it, then wipe and rebuild. I'll know for sure then if a full backup was necessary.
FakeGemstone said:
Were I planning to keep my OnePlus 8T with the stock OS, I suppose having root access would at least allow me to turn off some of the more annoying bloatware such as Zen. But with my older OnePlus, like you, I've chosen to tolerate the annoyances because introducing Magisk seems like it would be a make-work project for the life of the phone.
On the new phone I'm planning to switch out the operating system so if ever I was going to root a phone, this would be the time. Still thinking it over, especially the backup question. I don't keep anything important on my phone so if I had to rebuild it after a wipe it would be time consuming but eventually I'd get everything back to the way it was, I think.
Thank you for your reply; it was good to hear the perspective of someone from the non-rooted camp.
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Lol, I'm not that tolerant...
I use a package disabler (or you can use adb editing), a firewall and the DNS setting change below to globally kill ads.
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BillGoss said:
With an unlocked bootloader and no root, you won't be able to:
- use banking apps, Netflix, or any app that requires the device passing SafetyNet.
- fully backup/restore your apps and their data.
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I wish I had read this before unlocking the bootloader. My previous phone, the Poco X3, would pass fine with the majority of custom ROM's on Android 11 so I completely forgot about the root & magisk palaver I had to endure in the past. Think I'll pass for now on that basis!
EDIT - I've unlocked the bootloader and not rooted, and both the ROMs I've tested work absolutely fine with banking apps

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