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Possible Battery Charge Limiter?

Guys,
I have a sony vaio and i have a mode called Enable Battery Care Function where the app restricts the battery to stop charging at 80% which would multiply the life of a notebook battery (says Sony) there is another mode super care function @ 50%. I find this handy because i always have the power plugged in for my laptop.
Similarly i always have my HD2 plugged in to my notebook, so i keep recharging and may be over charging the device too and burn my recharge cycles. So can an app limit my charging to 80% or so? anybody share the same feeling?
Maybe an app can help.
Thanks,
Raj

commonsense would say it stupid.
stinginess would say it smart.
unless of course, you plan to use that phone for few decades where no more battery would be on sale. then you better start take good care of that battery.

badai said:
commonsense would say it stupid.
stinginess would say it smart.
unless of course, you plan to use that phone for few decades where no more battery would be on sale. then you better start take good care of that battery.
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Well,
I never use a phone for more than an year, you can see my list.. but what i do is to maintain it properly. I also have 2 spare batteries with me. so answer to my question if you know or pass.. this forum is no place for crap for someone with post count of 15.
Raj..

http://www.wmskins.com/blog/how-to-increase-battery-life-of-windows-mobiles
A Lithium Ion battery should never be charged to 100% or fully Discharged. The famous 80-20 rule is applicable here as well, though in a different way. Charging to 80% increases battery life.
Don’t wait for full discharge, charge it frequently. Keeping the battery near to 80% always, gives better life. This is also what many vendors claim as “memory effect”.
Every battery has limited Full charge-discharge cycles. Of the order of 300+. In other words a typical phone battery can be fully charged/discharged 300 times. Doing more frequent charges, as specified in point #2, will increase overall life.
During first time use (when the battery is new) don`t use it till its fully charged. This is why it is always written on manuals “let the device charge for 2-3 hours”.
Best way to increase battery life is Not to use it. If you keep AC power plugged in on your phones, keeping the battery at 80% (as in #1), your battery will last longer. Though discharging it once in a month would be must in such cases.
Surrounding temperature contributes a lot. Colder weather gives better battery life. So make sure your cellphone doesn’t overheat, if it does, find ways to keep it cool.
When not in use for long, store the battery keeping point 1 and point 6 in mind.
Apart from this there are specific tips to elongate battery life which are related to user’s usage:
Keep the screen brightness to as low as possible. This can reduce battery consumption by upto 40%.
Don’t do heavy tasks like gaming when running on battery. This often uses High CPU graphics which drains battery faster.
Kill background processes that you are not using, multitasking is one serious battery killer.
Use headsets for long conversations. This will give you 40-70% improvement in talk time. Why? because when you hold the cellphone in hands, your body absorbs most of the RF.
Use software like WMLongLife, it can increase battery significantly. It does that by switching the network mode to 2G automatically when you doen’t require 3G
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Well, I have my Sony Vaio TT92 with ext.batt (big one) now for 1,5 yrs in everyday use and until February had it in batt-save-mode 80%. It lasted about 10 hrs. with 50% screen-brightness and volume 50 %. Now in Feb it started to last only 7 hrs and less. Now I switched to full charge to get 9 hrs. of working time.
On the other hand I have my HTC Touch HD now for 2,5 yrs and until Dec. 2009 in full use, since my HD2 arrived as backup phone with a "xtra" sim-card so both the HD2 and Touch HD are ringing. I reduced e-mail download on my Touch HD to once a day and the batt after unplugging at 6 am shows still 98-99 % in the evening at 10 pm with the original batt that came with the phone.
What do I want to tell You: drain and charging cycles do not seem to affect small batts with little Ah-drain as much as notebook batts, so it seems to me.
For my HD2 I bought the ext.batt and it is fine for 2 days of full work with it. When I see it deteriorating I will buy a new one.
Or, more probable, the HD3

Battery life, how is your phone doing?

Wondering how is your battery life, I'm 5:30 hours for 54% of battery(75% - 21%)
I max charge it to 75% and usually I don't drain it less than 25% - To achieve the best battery life long term, so I won't need replacement anytime soon. Also I don't fast charge, usually 1A charging or similar(e.g. Wireless charging 7.5W)
Obviously I use underclocking to the point I don't fee any difference in daily usage
Share your thoughts, for 0-100% I bet I can do more than 7:30 SOT

evronetwork said:
Wondering how is your battery life, I'm 5:30 hours for 54% of battery(75% - 21%)
I max charge it to 75% and usually I don't drain it less than 25% - To achieve the best battery life long term, so I won't need replacement anytime soon. Also I don't fast charge, usually 1A charging or similar(e.g. Wireless charging 7.5W)
Obviously I use underclocking to the point I don't fee any difference in daily usage
Share your thoughts, for 0-100% I bet I can do more than 7:30 SOT
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Lol mate you're more like 5:30 min after 75-25 twice.
Such a bad battery life usually happens after using mokee as they change low lever instructions in the processor.
What happens is that the processor microcode is changed such that instead of power being managed by the relative motion of conductors and fluxes, it’s actually now managed by the modial interaction of adreno-reluctance and capacitive directance of the cores. You can not change that any more as it was a change on hardware level microconductions that can not be reverted.

malimukk said:
Lol mate you're more like 5:30 min after 75-25 twice.
Such a bad battery life usually happens after using mokee as they change low lever instructions in the processor.
What happens is that the processor microcode is changed such that instead of power being managed by the relative motion of conductors and fluxes, it’s actually now managed by the modial interaction of adreno-reluctance and capacitive directance of the cores. You can not change that any more as it was a change on hardware level microconductions that can not be reverted.
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50%(75-25% usage) of battery gives me 5:30 SOT hours and it's bad?
You troll right? this is only achieved with underclocking, at 100% you should expect more than 7:30 and maybe 8 hours! what about you?
P.S. Give me your SOT 75-25% and if it's more than 5:30 SOT I'll send you my phone for free - Bet you can't even do 6 hours SOT with full battery

just look at the screenshot you provided yourself, the battery graph clearly shows you charged your phone after you hit 25% the first time to 75% and let it run down to 21% again. battery (and sot) stats won't reset until you charge over 90%, so your reading of 5.5 hours of sot is actually 2 instances of your habitual 75-25% drain. in reality you are only getting about half that for 50% use (~2h 45min sot), which I'd say isn't too bad, but maybe you should do a full 100% to 0% use once and see how the battery fares for a more accurate reading. honestly I would say you would still get around 5.5-6 hours sot from that, and that unless you do some serious tweaking to both your phone and usage patterns you wouldn't be able to hit 7 hours sot, but I would be willing to see evidence that proves me otherwise.

NightRaven49 said:
just look at the screenshot you provided yourself, the battery graph clearly shows you charged your phone after you hit 25% the first time to 75% and let it run down to 21% again. battery (and sot) stats won't reset until you charge over 90%, so your reading of 5.5 hours of sot is actually 2 instances of your habitual 75-25% drain. in reality you are only getting about half that for 50% use (~2h 45min sot), which I'd say isn't too bad, but maybe you should do a full 100% to 0% use once and see how the battery fares for a more accurate reading. honestly I would say you would still get around 5.5-6 hours sot from that, and that unless you do some serious tweaking to both your phone and usage patterns you wouldn't be able to hit 7 hours sot, but I would be willing to see evidence that proves me otherwise.
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Battery Charge Limit - Resets your stats but also limits the charging
I know you are clueless but talking without knowing is bad - 5.5 is for 50% battery due to high underclocking I've got
With 100% I can get over 8-10 hours - High end CPU cores are not more than 1.5Ghz, gpu at power saving but also lowest possible freq for min/max - You are talking crap but ok I won't feed you, I stop feeding trolls the moment I get they troll

sorry but you are the one talking crap, please see attached picture, which is a crop of your battery graph. i personally also use the battery charge limit app, and i know how the reset battery stats option in the app works, which will clear the battery graph as well. if you really did clear battery stats you wouldn't be able to see this upward curve.
how about this, you fully charge your phone and use it normally until you hit your claimed 8-10h sot. honestly i think i can match your sot, but without this underclocking you highly praise.

You're either braindamaged or a troll. You charged your phone and it didn't reset stats so it combined both usages. Did you pass 6th grade maths? Anyways SoT is subjective and you're just being extra petty about this

10 hours SOT

pijes said:
10 hours SOT
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Only 10?
By doing a small mod on the battery, I get like 12 hours minimum, with 50% brightness fixed. What I did is that I replaced the main-winding of the normal Lotus-O-Deltoid type and placed it in the pan-indermic semi-boloid slots of the battery.

pijes said:
10 hours SOT
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Really 10 hours HOW????

silvergt2 said:
Really 10 hours HOW????
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Removed lots of bloatware using adbFastboot tool and connected mostly on wifi. Without wifi with medium usage, I can get around 6 hours SOT within 2 days of use.

aex + canting.

I've had mine for 18 months and am still very pleased on the charge. I can typically get 12 - 14 hours fine, and that does me for most uses. I've seen it go longer when I've used it less (for example right now 20 hours without charge - 6% left, although that would include about 7 hours of sleep so no use in that time).
No modifications on my part.

xiaomi.eu 12.2.3 battery drain and laggy animations?

I'm on miui.eu 12.2.3 and I'm noticing laggier animations and insane battery drain (I'm roughly getting 5 to 6 hours of screen on time under moderate usage like watching tiktok, browsing the net, youtube, twitch, an hour or two of genshin impact).
According to my battery usage stats as of posting this, I have so far consumed 2721 mAh with a screen on time of 4 hours and 42 minutes and standby time of 9 hours and 19 minutes. Battery life right now is at 30%. The device I'm using is a K30 Pro Zoom with an advertised battery of 4700 mAh.
Is this normal or is it the rom draining my battery and making the device laggier or is it the battery itself?
Can anyone tell me what's the best rom to use with this device?

blitzball said:
I'm on miui.eu 12.2.3 and I'm noticing laggier animations and insane battery drain (I'm roughly getting 5 to 6 hours of screen on time under moderate usage like watching tiktok, browsing the net, youtube, twitch, an hour or two of genshin impact).
According to my battery usage stats as of posting this, I have so far consumed 2721 mAh with a screen on time of 4 hours and 42 minutes and standby time of 9 hours and 19 minutes. Battery life right now is at 30%. The device I'm using is a K30 Pro Zoom with an advertised battery of 4700 mAh.
Is this normal or is it the rom draining my battery and making the device laggier or is it the battery itself?
Can anyone tell me what's the best rom to use with this device?
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Have you looked at the automatic start of apps and as well as background permissions?

NOSS8 said:
Have you looked at the automatic start of apps and as well as background permissions?
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There's a weird one its name is otherapps and it consumed 420+ mAh of (more so than my genshin impact session)
What could it be?

Question 85% VS 100% - and why?

I have always charged my phones to 100%, this 85% thing is very new to me.
I've never heard about it before until I saw it in my S22 ULTRA.
What are the benefits of charging only to 85%? Does it last as much as with 100%?
Does it really recommended to charge it up to 85%? Im not an heavy user, but also I'm not changing my phone once a year, I'm changing it one time in 3-4 years.
Also, I tried to never charge my phone at night, and trying to catch the battery not lower than 10-15 percent to charge.
So basically, it bothers me a little bit in the eye to see that the phone is only about 85%, because that way basically the battery will run out much faster(significantly, yesterday 10% went down in 45 minutes, which means I'll lose 45 minutes from battery usage for nothing).
So, my question is, is it really worth it? Is there a significant difference between the two options? I'd love your help, thank you all!

The 85% is to protect and prolong the battery life. I agree that you will loose 15% of battery time if not charging to 100%. I charge to 100% and when battery is 10 - 15 I charge to full. I guess on the long run it's better for the battery to only charge to 85%, but I change phones every year or 2, so I'm not to worried about prolonging the battery life

Set low limit at 30-40%
Top limit of 72-85% is better.
Li's love frequent midrange power cycling.
Start charge temperature is important to prevent Li plating. Battery should be at least at 72F, 82-90F is better. Cool if charging temperature goes above 99F. Never charge in direct sunlight.
Never attempt to charge at 40F or lower
Avoid having the screen on while changing.
When using, turn phone off if battery temperature reaches 100F or cool it.
Replacing the battery isn't a big deal unless you don't do it on a timely basis. When an Li has reached 80% of it's original capacity it's reached the end of it's useful service life and is degraded.
Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can heavily damage the phone. Any swelling is a failure replace immediately.
High voltage , temperature and current drain stress the battery. Other than avoiding low temperature charging and going to either low/high extreme voltage ranges constantly I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I now replace my heavily used Note 10+ battery every year or so to avoid another failure, routine maintenance. Batteries are cheap and relatively easy to replace.

blackhawk said:
Set low limit at 30-40%
Top limit of 72-85% is better.
Li's love frequent midrange power cycling.
Start charge temperature is important to prevent Li plating. Battery should be at least at 72F, 82-90F is better. Cool if charging temperature goes above 99F. Never charge in direct sunlight.
Never attempt to charge at 40F or lower
Avoid having the screen on while changing.
When using, turn phone off if battery temperature reaches 100F or cool it.
Replacing the battery isn't a big deal unless you don't do it on a timely basis. When an Li has reached 80% of it's original capacity it's reached the end of it's useful service life and is degraded.
Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can heavily damage the phone. Any swelling is a failure replace immediately.
High voltage , temperature and current drain stress the battery. Other than avoiding low temperature charging and going to either low/high extreme voltage ranges constantly I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I now replace my heavily used Note 10+ battery every year or so to avoid another failure, routine maintenance. Batteries are cheap and relatively easy to replace.
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So, I understand that it recommended to charge up to 85%? :-D
I searched on google to buy a S22 ultra battery that will keep in home until I need it, but couldn't find one.

maor23 said:
I have always charged my phones to 100%, this 85% thing is very new to me.
I've never heard about it before until I saw it in my S22 ULTRA.
What are the benefits of charging only to 85%? Does it last as much as with 100%?
Does it really recommended to charge it up to 85%? Im not an heavy user, but also I'm not changing my phone once a year, I'm changing it one time in 3-4 years.
Also, I tried to never charge my phone at night, and trying to catch the battery not lower than 10-15 percent to charge.
So basically, it bothers me a little bit in the eye to see that the phone is only about 85%, because that way basically the battery will run out much faster(significantly, yesterday 10% went down in 45 minutes, which means I'll lose 45 minutes from battery usage for nothing).
So, my question is, is it really worth it? Is there a significant difference between the two options? I'd love your help, thank you all!
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If you can last to bedtime on an 85% charge then fine use that setting if you intend to keep the device for 3 years or longer.
If (like me) you need 100% charge to get through the day, continue charging to 100% and dont worry.
I have been using mobile phones for 25 years and I charge overnight as I sleep. I have NEVER had a battery failure or problems.
Life is short, enjoy your new phone
P.S. If you are worried about stressing the battery by charging to 100%, I suggest you also disable Fast-Charging as that is WORSE for a battery cell than 100% vs 85% iMHO.

I used to charge my Note 10+ to 100%, every day plug it while in my car or plug it to my laptop now and then. After 2 years of use battery health was 89%.
On my Lenovo laptop I stop charging at 60% as suggested by Lenovo vantage. Bull****. Battery lasts a lot less after one year. Almost the half.
Enjoy your gadgets and mobiles. Anyway after 2 years most of us get a new one.

blackhawk said:
Set low limit at 30-40%
Top limit of 72-85% is better.
Li's love frequent midrange power cycling.
Start charge temperature is important to prevent Li plating. Battery should be at least at 72F, 82-90F is better. Cool if charging temperature goes above 99F. Never charge in direct sunlight.
Never attempt to charge at 40F or lower
Avoid having the screen on while changing.
When using, turn phone off if battery temperature reaches 100F or cool it.
Replacing the battery isn't a big deal unless you don't do it on a timely basis. When an Li has reached 80% of it's original capacity it's reached the end of it's useful service life and is degraded.
Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can heavily damage the phone. Any swelling is a failure replace immediately.
High voltage , temperature and current drain stress the battery. Other than avoiding low temperature charging and going to either low/high extreme voltage ranges constantly I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I now replace my heavily used Note 10+ battery every year or so to avoid another failure, routine maintenance. Batteries are cheap and relatively easy to replace.
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how does one set low limit?
i have a smart plug i use for my charger, only on long enough to charge phone from 20% to 85% (battery setting limit enabled).
i usually charge at 30% to 85%.

Slade8525 said:
how does one set low limit?
i have a smart plug i use for my charger, only on long enough to charge phone from 20% to 85% (battery setting limit enabled).
i usually charge at 30% to 85%.
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I just do it by eye. It's not rocket science.
Accubattery lets you set an alarm if you want.

maor23 said:
So, I understand that it recommended to charge up to 85%? :-D
I searched on google to buy a S22 ultra battery that will keep in home until I need it, but couldn't find one.
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Keeping a spare isn't a good plan as Li's start to degrade as soon as assembled. So after a year or more of sitting there it will have lost some of its initial capacity.
They should became easier in the future.

Any solution to modify the protect level?
"protect battery level 90%, 95% mod instead of 85%"
85% seem to be very short time of using

For anybody wanting to change the limit from 85% to lets say 90%, you can use the App called Galaxy Max Hz, you can find it on this forum : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ods-qs-tiles-tasker-support-and-more.4404929/
One of the options is to change the battery charge limit, on the lock screen it will still say : "Charging stopped at 85%" even though the battery is at 90% as set in Galaxy Max Hz

coolpixs4 said:
Any solution to modify the protect level?
"protect battery level 90%, 95% mod instead of 85%"
85% seem to be very short time of using
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85% is actually rather on the high side. Either correct the excessive battery drain or replace the battery. When an Li reaches 80% of its original capacity it's reached the end of its usable service life. It's degraded at that point. Degraded Li's are much more likely to fail. Any battery swelling is a failure.

My device does not have 'protect battery' toogle on quick settings
SS22+ OneUI4.1

coolpixs4 said:
Any solution to modify the protect level?
"protect battery level 90%, 95% mod instead of 85%"
85% seem to be very short time of using
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bixby probably

Actually, the protection level should be 80% or less to maximize the battery’s useful life.

malikin said:
bixby probably
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coolpixs4 said:
Any solution to modify the protect level?
"protect battery level 90%, 95% mod instead of 85%"
85% seem to be very short time of using
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verszipo said:
For anybody wanting to change the limit from 85% to lets say 90%, you can use the App called Galaxy Max Hz, you can find it on this forum : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ods-qs-tiles-tasker-support-and-more.4404929/
One of the options is to change the battery charge limit, on the lock screen it will still say : "Charging stopped at 85%" even though the battery is at 90% as set in Galaxy Max Hz
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freco said:
I used to charge my Note 10+ to 100%, every day plug it while in my car or plug it to my laptop now and then. After 2 years of use battery health was 89%.
On my Lenovo laptop I stop charging at 60% as suggested by Lenovo vantage. Bull****. Battery lasts a lot less after one year. Almost the half.
Enjoy your gadgets and mobiles. Anyway after 2 years most of us get a new one.
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I use the 60% protection on my Lenovo as they suggested and gess what, after 8 years my battery still works fine, and lasts for 2h/3h. I used my laptop every workday on heavy use, and it's the most cheap line, it cost me 300€ in 2015 (Lenovo G50-30 Celeron N2840). It's all day pluged, but when i need to use on battery it's fine!
So i realy think this battery protection works, and my S22 Ultra it's for last at least 5 years, and the 85% it's enough to run my workday.

burnin said:
I use the 60% protection on my Lenovo as they suggested and gess what, after 8 years my battery still works fine, and lasts for 2h/3h. I used my laptop every workday on heavy use, and it's the most cheap line, it cost me 300€ in 2015 (Lenovo G50-30 Celeron N2840). It's all day pluged, but when i need to use on battery it's fine!
So i realy think this battery protection works, and my S22 Ultra it's for last at least 5 years, and the 85% it's enough to run my workday.
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Maybe. Depends on usage. On my N10+ which is heavily used with frequent charge cycling from 40-60% to 72 to 85% most times I get about 2 years out of a battery. Higher battery temperature shortens the lifespan as well. Fast charging is more stressful as is using the device right after a fast charge. High current drain while in use is also stressful; optimize the device to increase SOT and battery lifespan.
Frequent partial charge power cycling can extent the typical 200 full charge cycles to 800 or more. A partial charge is not a full charge cycle.
Start charge temperature matters.
It's an electrochemical reaction, heat is required for it to charge properly!
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Never attempt to charge if near freezing
Fast charging will not engage if battery temperature is below about 55F to protect the battery.
Charging below 72F or above 103F can cause Li plating which will permanently degrade the cell.
Optimum start temperature is 82-90F, cutoff is 100-102F max. Cool if needed.
Regardless of service time replace the Li when it reaches 80% of its original capacity. At 80% it's reached the end of its service life and is considered degraded. Degraded Li's are more likely to fail
Any swelling is a failure and it can destroy the device. Battery replacement isn't hard or expensive. Just part of routine maintenance...

maor23 said:
I have always charged my phones to 100%, this 85% thing is very new to me.
I've never heard about it before until I saw it in my S22 ULTRA.
What are the benefits of charging only to 85%? Does it last as much as with 100%?
Does it really recommended to charge it up to 85%? Im not an heavy user, but also I'm not changing my phone once a year, I'm changing it one time in 3-4 years.
Also, I tried to never charge my phone at night, and trying to catch the battery not lower than 10-15 percent to charge.
So basically, it bothers me a little bit in the eye to see that the phone is only about 85%, because that way basically the battery will run out much faster(significantly, yesterday 10% went down in 45 minutes, which means I'll lose 45 minutes from battery usage for nothing).
So, my question is, is it really worth it? Is there a significant difference between the two options? I'd love your help, thank you all!
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Here is a good article why it's recommended to not load the batt to 100%
How to maximize battery life: Charging habits and other tips
If you've ever wondered what the best way to charge your battery is, here are some scientifically proven tips for maximizing battery life.
www.androidauthority.com
Personally i just keep the load between 65% and around 20-30%. Only if i know that i will leave the house longer than 4 hours I do a 85% load or 100% if i want to film and take photos. But this rarely happens.

Question Battery health

I got my p7p back in December,. I noticed that the battery health is around 97% using FKM and accubattery .. Is there any way to calibrate the battery ? And is it normal to loose 3% over 4 months ?

Do you really think after 3 months of use, your battery health would still be 100%?

Actually I kinda would. Or at least not a hard reduction of 3%.
With a capacity drop up to 20% over 2 to 3 years I would expect 1.5% - 2% in the first couple of months if your phone is in use 24x7.
I'm actually seeing less reduction as I switch off my phone every night and keep ik relatively cool (no gaming). This behavior slows down the formation of dendrites and I have reported drop of 0%. ccu battery reports that I'm still at max capacity and so do several other health checkers. Probably due to rounding off number, realistically my p7p is probably also a bit <100%

Those apps are just rough estimates anyways and it even lists that in Franco. Not sure about Accubattery. I wouldn't worry about it and just use your phone.