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Honor 6 EMUI Power Saving Actually Worsens The Battery...

I've generally been happy with my Honor 6, but one thing thats irritated me is the inbuilt power saving - how it's constantly informing me that certain apps are consuming power, or how it causes conflicts with actual working power savers like Greenify and Amplify.... even when they are whitelisted I still have problems (with Greenify especially). IMO It's fairly obvious that all that background management is actually going to have a negative effect on the battery, not just when it's constantly checking for 'high power apps' but when you need to reopen the closed down ones again. And with how Android actually works, there's actually no need at all for battery saving apps that are constantly freeing up memory in the background!
Yes there''s the ultra saving mode, but that disables much needed features and (for me) can't be switched off without fully rebooting the phone. And yes, you can switch the power saving to 'normal' but I'm not sure if that still means it's trying to do background management?, so last night I decided to find out if I can fully disable it. and it turns out it's called 'Phone Manager 3.30.20' (you may have a different version depending on what you're running) and that it can be frozen via Titanium Backup... it causes no negative effects when disabled and just disappears from the settings menu altogether without needing to reboot.
In the attached image... after the dip around 55-60% where I disable it you can see that although not making massive improvements to the battery life it has improved it somewhat :good: Worth a try if you're OCD like me when it comes to battery life!

Isn't permissions manager part of phone manager?
Do you still have control over apps permissions?

somesmm said:
Isn't permissions manager part of phone manager?
Do you still have control over apps permissions?
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How do I check?

mamboboy said:
How do I check?
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Settings - Permission manager

Well all apps which i constantly use and don't want power manager to notify, i turn off the power notification for that individual app. And then removed much of the annoying part.

[App] ForceDoze - Force Doze mode after screen off, disable motion sensors, etc

Hi all,
ForceDoze allows you to forcefully enable Doze right after you turn off your screen, and on top of that, it also disables motion sensors so Doze stays active even if your device is not stationary while screen off. Doze will only deactivate periodically to execute maintenance jobs (like getting notifications, etc), otherwise it will remain fully active as long as your screen is off. This brings a lot more battery savings than standard Doze functionality, because even with screen off and Doze enabled, Doze is still periodically checking for movement, and disabling motion sensing improves battery life further.
Features:
Force enable Doze right after screen off
Disable motion sensors so Doze doesn't periodically poll the sensors to check if the device is stationary or not. This provides an additional boost to battery life
Whitelist apps so they don't get suspended or disabled when Doze mode is active
Doze battery stats: Shows you all the times your device has entered/exited Doze mode, and how much battery was available during those times. It will only work when ForceDoze service is turned on
Tasker support so you can now send com.suyashsrijan.forcedoze.DISABLE_FORCEDOZE broadcast intent to disable the ForceDoze service, or com.suyashsrijan.forcedoze.ENABLE_FORCEDOZE to enable the ForceDoze service
Tasker support for adding/removing apps from the Doze whitelist, so you can send com.suyashsrijan.forcedoze.ADD_WHITELIST broadcast intent along with packageName as the key and the package name you want to add as the value, in Extras. To remove the app from the whitelist, send the com.suyashsrijan.forcedoze.REMOVE_WHITELIST broadcast intent along with packageName as the key and the package name you want to remove as the value, in Extras. So for example, in Tasker, you can set Action as one of the intents above, and in Extras, add packageName:com.your.packagename and then save the task
Enable Doze mode on your device if your device OEM has disabled it (experimental)
No-root mode so you can use this app without root privileges (Requires you to execute an ADB command from your PC to grant it the android.permission.DUMP permission, instructions inside app and app description on Play Store)
Force Doze is a free & open-source app, so you can grab the app and the source code from:
Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.suyashsrijan.forcedoze
Play Store Beta testing: https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.suyashsrijan.forcedoze
Latest APK (v1.4.0 rev68): https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767144607
Latest Beta APK: Not available right now #
Github: https://github.com/theblixguy/ForceDoze
Frequently asked questions:
Auto-rotate/brightness doesn't work after turning on the device
Please turn on Auto-rotate/brightness fix in settings and restart the ForceDoze service. If that doesn't work, turn on "Don't disable sensors on screen off" in app Settings instead
I have trouble getting push notifications from apps (ex: GMail)
Only high-priority push notifications are delivered to the app while the device is in Doze mode, normal-priority notifications (ex: from Gmail) are delivered during the Doze maintenance window or when you wake up the device. This is an OS restriction and there's nothing that can be done about it
My device doesn't turn on and I have to restart my device to fix
This is most probably being caused by disabling motion sensors, pretty common on LG devices. To fix, turn on "Don't disable sensors on screen off" in app Settings and restart the ForceDoze service
The app doesn't work properly for some reason
If you're rooted, then make sure SU requests made by the app aren't getting denied by the SU app on your phone. Your SU app will occasionally prompt you to grant or deny SU access to ForceDoze and if you deny or ignore the dialog, then the app will not work properly and will fail to do certain things, like re-enabling sensors after exiting Doze or turning off Doze properly after screen on
Please let me know if you spot any bugs or unwanted behavior, or would like me to add more features to the app!

Gotta try this!
I suppose you have already tested it before?
What are the results?

ceftriaxone said:
Gotta try this!
I suppose you have already tested it before?
What are the results?
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I am presently running it on my Galaxy S7 Edge and I don't face any issues!

if u want to translate the app, i can help with Pt-Br <3 downloading now

I experience rotation issues after installing your app on nexus 7v2. Excited to test this
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sensor re enabling
I have posted this on Reddit page..(if you didn't see the issues posted there)
app doesn't ask for su
works even without su or adb(greenify notifies me)
even after sometime screen turned on rotation and auto brightness don't work
enabling sensor service option in app , disables doze on motion
thank you
sorry for my English

Is this the same like Greenify Aggressive Doze?

xk0niR said:
Is this the same like Greenify Aggressive Doze?
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If I'm correctly interpreting the OP, it isn't. Greenify does use the sensors, while this app isn't.
Installed it 5 minutes ago, will report back after a while of testing.
Edit: I have problems too with brightness not responding anymore, until I uncheck and turn autobrightness back on...
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I've been using this for the past 2 days & it's been great. Reduced my idle drain rate from 3 to 4% per hr to 1.5 to 2% per hr.
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Can we please have a whitelist option. Would love to use this , but still get notifications from Twitter and Snapchat. Thanks!

@ssrij I'm on 1.0.7 and I cant access the Google app store. I keep getting the "check your connection" error. What do I need to whitelist? Something is not waking back up properly. Don't have this issue with Greenify aggressive Doze.
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Donnie Sins said:
If I'm correctly interpreting the OP, it isn't. Greenify does use the sensors, while this app isn't.
Installed it 5 minutes ago, will report back after a while of testing.
Edit: I have problems too with brightness not responding anymore, until I uncheck and turn autobrightness back on...
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First, kudos for a great app. Was looking for alternative to greenify since i consider it too aggressive for me. Just wanted to inform i have the same adaptive brightness bug. Must be ticked off and on for it to work.
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JoeFCaputo113 said:
Can we please have a whitelist option. Would love to use this , but still get notifications from Twitter and Snapchat. Thanks!
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There is. Lol
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PINki92 said:
I experience rotation issues after installing your app on nexus 7v2. Excited to test this
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Please download the latest APK from the main post, reset ForceDoze from app settings, go to app settings again, turn on Enable Auto-rotate/brightness fix, turn on ForceDoze service and see if it fixes the issue
ajeesh vijayan said:
I have posted this on Reddit page..(if you didn't see the issues posted there)
app doesn't ask for su
works even without su or adb(greenify notifies me)
even after sometime screen turned on rotation and auto brightness don't work
enabling sensor service option in app , disables doze on motion
thank you
sorry for my English
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Please download the latest APK from the main post, reset ForceDoze from app settings, go to app settings again, turn on Enable Auto-rotate/brightness fix, turn on ForceDoze service and see if it fixes the issue
xk0niR said:
Is this the same like Greenify Aggressive Doze?
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Donnie Sins said:
If I'm correctly interpreting the OP, it isn't. Greenify does use the sensors, while this app isn't.
Installed it 5 minutes ago, will report back after a while of testing.
Edit: I have problems too with brightness not responding anymore, until I uncheck and turn autobrightness back on...
Sent from the Matrix
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Please download the latest APK from the main post, reset ForceDoze from app settings, go to app settings again, turn on Enable Auto-rotate/brightness fix, turn on ForceDoze service and see if it fixes the issue
JoeFCaputo113 said:
Can we please have a whitelist option. Would love to use this , but still get notifications from Twitter and Snapchat. Thanks!
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It's there, go to Menu > Settings > Whitelist apps

YYvo said:
First, kudos for a great app. Was looking for alternative to greenify since i consider it too aggressive for me. Just wanted to inform i have the same adaptive brightness bug. Must be ticked off and on for it to work.
Sent from my D6603 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Please download the latest APK from the main post, reset ForceDoze from app settings, go to app settings again, turn on Enable Auto-rotate/brightness fix, turn on ForceDoze service and see if it fixes the issue

optimummind said:
@ssrij I'm on 1.0.7 and I cant access the Google app store. I keep getting the "check your connection" error. What do I need to whitelist? Something is not waking back up properly. Don't have this issue with Greenify aggressive Doze.
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I don't think whitelisting Play Store will work, but you can try adding com.android.vending to the app whitelist. I don't know why that happens, try clearing Play Store cache or force stopping it, and make sure your internet connection is active and working, that could also be a reason why

@ssrij I downloaded & installed the 1.0.8 apk. When I open the app, it says 1.0.7.
Do you know when a scrolling list of whitelist apps will be available?
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optimummind said:
@ssrij I downloaded & installed the 1.0.8 apk. When I open the app, it says 1.0.7.
Do you know when a scrolling list of whitelist apps will be available?
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I have updated the link, try again now and follow the same steps.
It will be available in next version (1.0.9)

everything fine now .. but
latest build works great..
but still I don't understand.. app didn't request su (fresh installed latest build), I didn't grant dump
but still everything works...

ssrij said:
Please let me know if you spot any bugs or unwanted behavior, or would like me to add more features to the app!
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Great idea !
But you should take some time to answer those questions about Greenify (difference, are they complementary or we should keep only one..), because we are used to it...

[Guide] My Battery Optimization Guide for OnePlus 6

Hello everyone,
This guide is for non-rooted, stock-firmware phones. It is geared more towards getting good stand-by times, but of course this will also benefit screen-on time. It has some OnePlus-specific things but also many non-specific to one manufacturer. It does not contain miracle information, but from my experience it can help quite a bit. It assumes that you keep phone, mobile data, Wi-Fi and sync enabled at all times. Those are core features of any phone and are not means to save battery. The optimization steps are listed in the order which I think impacts battery life. You may or may not apply some or all of the things listed, depending on your own needs.
So:
1. Go to Settings->Battery->Battery optimization->[tap on the 3 vertical dots on the upper right corner] and enable the phone's "Advanced Battery Optimization" (aka. Aggressive Doze) feature, while at the same time whitelisting apps from which you need instant notifications, like Whatsapp or Outlook, etc. For other apps notifications may be delayed. Some applications like AdBlock Plus for Samsung browser also need whitelisting to work properly. Just go by trial and error with finding which applications need whitelisting.
2. Enable "Developer Mode" by going to Settings->About Phone and tapping 7 times on the "Build Number". Then go to Settings->Developer Options and enable the "App Wi-Fi Multi/Broadcasting Filter" option. I did not find any app impacted negatively by this, even casting to Chromecast works fine.
3. Go to Settings->Display->Ambient Display and disable the "Lift up display" and "Wake screen on notifications" options (which are useless compared to a true Always-On Display option anyway), and instead put the phone's RGB notification LED to good use. The Light Flow (one of many, but in my opinion the best) app can customize the LED color for different types of notifications, as well as setting a priority or cycling between colors. Since the LED's "always-on" nature, it is actually much more useful than a dead screen that only wakes up when lifted. When I use Light Flow, I set the LED blinking speed to "Always On" and a diffent color for each app. Works much better than any "ambient" mode.
4. Go to Settings->Display->Themes and enable the "Dark Theme". It reduces power consumption for OLED displays such as the one from the OnePlus 6.
5. Social media apps (especially Facebook) are battery hogs because they need to continuously gather your personal data and usage information. If you are only an occasional user, prefer uninstalling those apps and instead using the browser to access your account. This will also benefit you in other areas, like productivity
6. Keep Location off until you need it. This will ensure that the system does not wake up the GPS due to some obscure request from an app that can also work without knowing your location.
7. Go to Settings->Apps->Application list, tap on each app and review permissions. Remove Location permission for apps that you don't want to unknowingly wake up your GPS and draining your battery. I prefer to only allow Location access to Google Maps and Waze but your mileage may vary.
8. Disable Face Unlock. Activating the front camera so often does consume quite a bit of battery, as can be seen in battery stats. And as you may have read, it is not very secure anyway. As the rear-placed fingerprint sensor makes it almost unusable for me (for example I cannot unlock it while in the car cradle or on the desk), I chose to use the Smart Lock features with my Bluetooth smartwatch and my home Wi-Fi network and my phone stays unlocked while my smartwatch is around, which eliminates the necessity for both face unlock and fingerprint reader.
9. Prefer using software from companies that do not live from user data (like Google and Facebook). Collecting as much user information as possible requires wide system access and takes up a lot of battery. I like to replace Gmail with Microsoft Outlook (even for my Gmail addresses) and I use Samsung Internet instead of Chrome. The Samsung browser seems to be the most battery-efficient browser available, way above Firefox. Microsoft Edge may also be a good alternative.
10. Use an ad-blocker if supported by your browser. Animated ads and additional loading of ad-related content contributes quite a bit to the web browsing battery drain.
11. Go to Settings->Accounts->Google and for each Google account, tap on it and then disable syncing for information that you do not need synced. Clicking on a Google account shows you sections of info to be synced. Disable what you don't need. For example, you may only need Contacts syncing for your primary Gooogle account and not all of them. Same with Google Fit data, pictures, etc.
12. Go to Settings->Apps->Special Access->Usage Access and disable this access for OnePlus Switch and Google Play Store (not for Google Play Services, it may have unwanted side effects). This stops these apps from consuming system resources and battery to continuously collect usage data.
13. Go to Settings->Apps->Application list and disable applications that you don't need and can be disabled (some cannot be disabled).
14. Opt out of (do not enable) the "send diagnostic information" checkboxes whenever you are asked for, unless you are really selfless and want to give [a percentage of your battery life] to the community Go from app to app and see if it has this or similar setting (sometimes these settings are sugarcoated into "enhance your experience by sending your data to us"). Disable if found.
15. Do not enter your OnePlus account information. This will activate all kinds of data-sending services that will contribute to the battery drain.
16. Wipe cache after each update, especially if you notice worsened battery drain. To wipe cache, turn off the phone, then hold Power + VolDown buttons continuously until it starts, keep holding until a menu appears. After you enter your phone password you can choose "Wipe Cache/Data" section which brings another menu, choose "Wipe Cache" then after confirmation, choose Reboot.
17. If you are not using the landscape mode a lot, prefer to lock the phone rotation in portrait mode (the toggle is present among the quick toggles) and only unlock the rotation when needed. From what I have read, somehow the auto-rotation seems to unnecessarily cause some activity (even wake-locks), and from my experience I did see a bit of improvement from this tweak, looks like more than placebo.
18. If you already have a OnePlus 6, this does not apply. But if you are after ultimate battery life, keep in mind, less chips means less power draw if all else is equal, and RAM memory needs continuous refresh, so a model with 6GB of RAM may be a bit more power-efficient than one with 8GB RAM, especially given the fact that still-large 6GB of RAM virtually guarantees that there will be no extra overhead related too app reloading.
Hopefully this will help some people.
Below you will find some of my usual stand-by times after the optimization. Since update 5.1.7 battery life seems to be improved even further (see last 2 screenshots - with 5.1.7 and 5.1.8).

Thanks for all this. Most of the things I already did myself, but some of them actually make a lot of sense but I've never thought about it before.
Already very happy with the battery life I'm getting, but very curious if it will be even better now.

Thanks for this nice pice of guide!

All of this means nothing if you have really bad cell reception like me. -105 to -112 dBm at the office. Drains like hell in standby.

Cst79 said:
1. Go to Settings->Battery->Battery optimization->[tap on the 3 vertical dots on the upper right corner] and enable the phone's "Advanced Battery Optimization" (aka. Aggressive Doze) feature, while at the same time whitelisting apps from which you need instant notifications, like Whatsapp or Outlook, etc. For other apps notifications may be delayed. Some applications like AdBlock Plus for Samsung browser also need whitelisting to work properly. Just go by trial and error with finding which applications need whitelisting.
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By Whitelist you mean changing it to "Not Optimize correct?

mesajoejoe said:
By Whitelist you mean changing it to "Not Optimize correct?
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Correct !

well done on post [emoji106]

Dumb question, is Advanced Optimization (with some apps not optimized as needed) definitely more efficient than normal, with every app set to optimize as by default (and everything works)?
Why isn't there 3 settings for every app: not optimized, optimized, and advanced optimized?

and i got this today... now charging...

Muntasir Mahmud Saif said:
and i got this today... now charging...
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Looks pretty great ! Did you use the optimizations from this guide ? Any other tips ?

Cst79 said:
Looks pretty great ! Did you use the optimizations from this guide ? Any other tips ?
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no bro...i always make my own optimization...no offense though... I'll post the guide later on...

Cst79 said:
15. Do not enter your OnePlus account information. This will activate all kinds of data-sending services that will contribute to the battery drain.
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Hi Bro,
Sorry that i not so understand what this item 15 means.

xiah1512 said:
Hi Bro,
Sorry that i not so understand what this item 15 means.
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As you may know, especially if you purchased your phone or accessories from the OnePlus website or accessed the OnePlus forums or support, you can create a OnePlus account online. At phone setup, OnePlus asks you to optionally enter this account for various benefits. Do not enter this information when/if asked. Or, if already entered, you can delete it from Settings->Accounts.

Cst79 said:
As you may know, especially if you purchased your phone or accessories from the OnePlus website or accessed the OnePlus forums or support, you can create a OnePlus account online. At phone setup, OnePlus asks you to optionally enter this account for various benefits. Do not enter this information when/if asked. Or, if already entered, you can delete it from Settings->Accounts.
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Ok, Thanks bro.

For those suggestions that cut down on network chit-chat, this also serves as a partial data usage optimization guide. Thanks for taking time to enumerate all these suggestions. I found a few slam-dunks in this list.

Cst79 said:
As you may know, especially if you purchased your phone or accessories from the OnePlus website or accessed the OnePlus forums or support, you can create a OnePlus account online. At phone setup, OnePlus asks you to optionally enter this account for various benefits. Do not enter this information when/if asked. Or, if already entered, you can delete it from Settings->Accounts.
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What does adding that account allow you to do?

Muntasir Mahmud Saif said:
no bro...i always make my own optimization...no offense though... I'll post the guide later on...
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how did you fix the massive overnight drain eventually?
I'm getting 8% drain overnight, I dont think that's normal.

-marco- said:
how did you fix the massive overnight drain eventually?
I'm getting 8% drain overnight, I dont think that's normal.
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You are on 5.1.6?

Joyarup said:
You are on 5.1.6?
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I am, yes.

-marco- said:
I am, yes.
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I was also facing this weird issue, then I noticed that the phone wasn't deep sleeping for some reasons, I rebooted it before going to sleep and it went to deep sleep fine and the drain was around 2% on LTE standby overnight. I will try different kernels too, currently using EX.

[TIP] To have 24 hours standby with 7+hours screen on time battery backup

Hi guys,
I just want to share my battery experience with fellow op6 users. Actually i had huge drain in couple of hours so then Hayek to discover this tip.
What to do:
Go to settings, battery, and tap on ANDROID SYSTEM.
Then disable background activity so that it should show up "APPS BACKGROUND ACTIVITY IS LIMITED WHEN NOT IN USE" message.
Then also enable battery use optimization for the same ANDROID SYSTEM. So that it should show up "OPTIMIZING BATTERY USE"message.
That's it!
And i had these results with battery back up on os 5.1.5
Attached screenshots also.
Please ignore if you knew this before.
Hit thanks if it helped you or you don't know this point.

Here the backup usage screenshot

harigavara said:
Here the backup usage screenshot
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Don't tell tell your tips to other person's... because your battery stats are so bad !!! lol

Hmm I am missing the option for background activity. Any idea why? I ak on nolimits Rom. Is it maybe disabled there?

The sam Problem, no Option for Disable background activity

You are in wrong Android system.scroll under there is Second Android system

harigavara said:
Hi guys,
I just want to share my battery experience with fellow op6 users. Actually i had huge drain in couple of hours so then Hayek to discover this tip.
What to do:
Go to settings, battery, and tap on ANDROID SYSTEM.
Then disable background activity so that it should show up "APPS BACKGROUND ACTIVITY IS LIMITED WHEN NOT IN USE" message.
Then also enable battery use optimization for the same ANDROID SYSTEM. So that it should show up "OPTIMIZING BATTERY USE"message.
That's it!
And i had these results with battery back up on os 5.1.5
Attached screenshots also.
Please ignore if you knew this before.
Hit thanks if it helped you or you don't know this point.
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Or you can enable the Advanced Battery Optimization (aka Aggressive Doze) and the system will do this to all apps, saving even more battery. That's why some people don't have the setting, because they already have Advanced Battery Optimization enabled. You can then get 48h+ of stand-by, with 5-6h of SOT.
Full guide here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/guide-battery-optimization-guide-t3802225

Cst79 said:
Or you can enable the Advanced Battery Optimization (aka Aggressive Doze) and the system will do this to all apps, saving even more battery. That's why some people don't have the setting, because they already have Advanced Battery Optimization enabled. You can then get 48h+ of stand-by, with 5-6h of SOT.
Full guide here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/guide-battery-optimization-guide-t3802225
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Before i got both enabled parallely. Advanced optimization and this Android system background activity.
But folks even now i can't see Android system thing. I guess this had been disabled in 5.1.6. just after this post i updated to 5.1.6 and now it's not there. I guess who are on 5.1.5 still can have Android system thing.
I miss it ? if my backup is not going to continue same.

harigavara said:
Before i got both enabled parallely. Advanced optimization and this Android system background activity.
But folks even now i can't see Android system thing. I guess this had been disabled in 5.1.6. just after this post i updated to 5.1.6 and now it's not there. I guess who are on 5.1.5 still can have Android system thing.
I miss it if my backup is not going to continue same.
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no this tips works well even in 5.1.6

Keep in mind that advanced optimization will break certain apps that need to run in the background to function correctly, for example TiBu scheduled backups and Dropbox synchronization. You can exempt those apps in the optimize list.

iElvis said:
Keep in mind that advanced optimization will break certain apps that need to run in the background to function correctly, for example TiBu scheduled backups and Dropbox synchronization. You can exempt those apps in the optimize list.
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Yes this breaks the push notifications

A couple strange things

Given the less friendly finger print reading I have taken to double tapping on the screen to turn it on. But relatively often it does not respond to a double tap. Is anyone else experiencing that?
The other one is that at many web sites I go to a pop up message box will come up asking if they can read my device's location. The answer box NEVER responds to a click. The screen will be dim. I have to back up 1 screen which closes the query box. I actually expect that one of my apps that have privileges to over write other apps is the culprit, but I don't see why they would mess with that one function, especially when at that moment those apps aren't being brought up. Any thoughts on this?

Increase screen sensitivity if you haven't already.

Yes I've experienced the double tapping unresponsiveness and decided to have AOD on all the time instead despite additional battery drain just to bypass this issue.

boogiecornejo said:
Yes I've experienced the double tapping unresponsiveness and decided to have AOD on all the time instead despite additional battery drain just to bypass this issue.
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That's what I do on the 10+
Battery drain is slightly less than 1% @ hour.
For me it runs best/most efficiently with no power management* running other than the system power setting to optimized.
*some apks are package blocked otherwise all buckets show as active in Developer Options. If this is not the case unwanted power management is active.
I'm running Pie; not sure how Q will respond. I found it's best to let Android handle power management exclusively other than blocking serial power hogs like Google Backup Transport and Framework Services Framework. I don't use these.

blackhawk said:
Increase screen sensitivity if you haven't already.
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Thanks for the suggestion. It is already active.
Here's another interesting thing: every now and then (actually several times during the course of a day) after turning the screen on the bio didn't with nor the location, and it forces me to enter the pin to get into the phone. I even have it set to not lock if hooked to my hearing aids and it still happens.

ewingr said:
Thanks for the suggestion. It is already active.
Here's another interesting thing: every now and then (actually several times during the course of a day) after turning the screen on the bio didn't with nor the location, and it forces me to enter the pin to get into the phone. I even have it set to not lock if hooked to my hearing aids and it still happens.
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I keep my phone with me at all times, don't let others use it and never lock it. Makes life easier.
It's a steep learning curve with these devices... make sure it has the permissions it needs like being able to change system settings.

blackhawk said:
That's what I do on the 10+
Battery drain is slightly less than 1% @ hour.
For me it runs best/most efficiently with no power management* running other than the system power setting to optimized.
*some apks are package blocked otherwise all buckets show as active in Developer Options. If this is not the case unwanted power management is active.
I'm running Pie; not sure how Q will respond. I found it's best to let Android handle power management exclusively other than blocking serial power hogs like Google Backup Transport and Framework Services Framework. I don't use these.
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Hmmm... The setting to read it loud is a system setting itself (in Accessibility settings). I don't think there are any permissions to make. I did just look and nothing is apparent.

ewingr said:
Thanks for the suggestion. It is already active.
Here's another interesting thing: every now and then (actually several times during the course of a day) after turning the screen on the bio didn't with nor the location, and it forces me to enter the pin to get into the phone. I even have it set to not lock if hooked to my hearing aids and it still happens.
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ewingr said:
Hmmm... The setting to read it loud is a system setting itself (in Accessibility settings). I don't think there are any permissions to make. I did just look and nothing is apparent.
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Permission to change system settings is in it's own listing apart from permissions in each app settings.
Could be more than one apk needed to make all work right.
Make sure power management not doing it.
In Developer Options>Standby Apps, all apps listed there should show as having their buckets as "active" if they not, power management is active.
You don't want that.

ewingr said:
I actually expect that one of my apps that have privileges to over write other apps is the culprit
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one of the apps is interfering as you correctly suspect