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---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------What I have right now out of Doze are "Bluetooth MIDI Service", "Bluetooth Share", the "Clock" app and two other Clock apps.
I am not sure how effective is the method listed below after the last update. Stay tuned.
Also I think the current version of Facebook Messenger is draining too much battery.
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when I bought my Zenfone 3 ZE520KL, I was amazed by it's battery life. I could easily get around 8 hours of SOT in a single charge with moderate usage. My device was running Android Marshmallow 6.0 out of the box, but performance wasn't as good. On Nougat, performance is much better and faster, also I used to get some lags and frozen screen, the capacitive keys also sometimes froze when I was charging my phone, but now I don't get issues like that as often as before. Interface is so much more appealing and I love it.
But what about battery life? I started getting around 5 hours of SOT.. which is still good, but not really close to 8 hours. I thought a lot about these 3 hours that were missing so I decided to start investigating. I wanted to share my findings with you so maybe you would know something that could help.
It's been two weeks since I have been testing out different things. The apps I used to do my research are:
Carat. What I love about this app is the process list. It shows exactly which apps and system processes are running in the background, so I can control them very easily.
Greenify. Thanks to the Carat app, I can see which apps continue running in the background, so I can use Greenify to hibernate them after I'm done using them. (Examples: Youtube, Snapchat etc.). Also I bought the Donation Package, and unlocked the other modes using adb commands (my device is not rooted).
BetterBatteryStats. This app is usually used to detect wakelocks. I limited the Google Calendar App from syncing so it doesn't use too much battery in the background. This app is paid in Google Play but you can get it for free from here.
What I did to get better battery life:
I excluded the services, that were always running in the process list from the Carat App from Doze. Apparently, the new Doze in Nougat gives us permission to optimize more system processes and services than before, which can backfire - Doze starts trying to kill processes that can't be killed, and this results in consuming more battery juice than saving it.
How to enter Doze settings and make the following changes:
Go to "Settings" > Select "Battery" > Tap on the three dots at the upper-right corner > Select "Battery Optimization" > Select "All Apps" > Find and tap on the Apps/Services/Processes I have listed below > Select "Do not optimize". The other apps and services should stay optimized.
The apps, processes and services that I removed from Doze are:
Android Services Library
Android System
ASUS Calling Screen
Bluetooth MIDI Service
Bluetooth Share
Camera
Clock
com.android.smspush
com.asus.keyboard
com.asus.shim
com.qti.qualcomm.datastatusnotification
com.qualcomm.qti.tetherservice
org.codeaurora.bluetooth
org.codeaurora.ims
com.qualcomm.qcrilsgtunnel
ICESound Service
Mobile Manager
MobileManagerService
System UI
Telecom Service
Telephony Service
ZenUI Keyboard
ZenUI Launcher
Some other apps that I'm using: Do It Later, Greenify, Messages, Nova Launcher, Timely, Weather.
Please do a full charge to 100% afterwards and check if the battery still drains as quickly as before. Your feedback will be greatly appreciated.
I am already starting to see improvement in my battery life. I was losing around 2% on Stand By and battery was draining fast when I was using the phone, but now I lost 0% on Stand By overnight and 10% for 1 hour of SOT (before this I was losing 10% for 30 min. of SOT). I am still trying to figure out which services exactly are causing the drain, when they are being optimized. Maybe the services, included in the Android System? (Check them from Settings > Battery > Android System > Included Packages). I deleted Facebook and Twitter apps and started using them from Chrome (almost the same thing, I quickly got used to that). Please check the updates below for more info and share your opinion or advice in the comments so we can all reach a better experience with this amazing smartphone.
Thank you for reading!
Update1: 6h30min SOT with 30% left (917mAh, 35%), but I will have to charge now. I have been messing with Doze a lot, maybe I'll get more clean results later. Progress has been made though, at least with my device.
Update2: Something interesting - my J-Score with the Carat app before and after starting this experiment: http://i.imgur.com/Q8u6HBD.jpg
Update3: There is a battery drain when making voice calls - 226mAh (7%) were lost because of 43 minutes long talk time.
Results were worse after testing with the second list removed, although there wasn't much draining with the screen on: SOT - 5h20min for 70% of battery (752mAh, 20%).
Update4: com.android.phone appears as a wakelock at BBS (Wakeups:8). Also 2h30 SOT for 30% used battery (100-70%~408 mAh). I'm updating the list and trying again.
Please note that my phone is updated to the latest firmware WW_Phone-14.2020.1703.28-20170410.
Update5: com.android.phone is still an active wakelock (Wakeups:14), but SOT is 2h34min for 30% used battery (100-70%~343mAh). At 30% battery left, SOT is almost 6hrs(28%~787mAh), Device Idle is at 10% (291mAh). The MobileManagerService is causing way too many wakelocks and is probably the reason for the high Device Idle battery usage.
Update6: MobileManagerService is no longer showing as a frequent wakelock. com.android.phone (Telephony Service - Wakeups:9) and com.google.android.apps.messaging are the most persistent wakelocks, other than that battery life is amazing at the moment. SOT is 2h45min for 30% used battery (100-70%~366mAh). I also had 27 min of talk time (4%~145mAh). At 30% left, I have 6h33min of SOT (32%~912mAh). Device Idle is again at 10% (292mAh). We are ready for the final test.
Update7: The results are quite interesting. After removing com.qti.qualcomm.telephonyservice from Doze, com.android.phone stopped appearing as a frequent wakelock at first, but now, at 70% it has 16 wakeups. SOT is 2h22min (100-70%~318mAh), so it's not better. I'm going to try a few more changes.
Update 8: I posted it as a reply here.
Update 9: I shouldn't have put Task Manager out of Doze, I get so much better battery life now. The update is ready, check it here.
Good post, thank you for investigating this, please let us know if you find more stuff or what exactly is responsible for it and an easy way of fixing.
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Good post, thank you for investigating this, please let us know if you find more stuff or what exactly is responsible for it and an easy way of fixing.
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Hello! Thank you for your reply. I'm so happy I could help others and myself with this thread, but I also need to know if you are also seeing any difference. Please check here regularly!
Also, I'm guessing that when you put your system processes and services in Doze, you also decrease their performance, which causes battery draining, as they try to run normally and do their work. Doze is trying to prevent them from doing that. This is my conclusion, but only results will show if I'm correct. If you own yourself a Zenfone 3, please feel free to report if you experience any changes using my method.
Thank you and have a nice day!
Hi, thank you for the post. I have a zenfone 3 here and will try your method.
I'm trying it on ze520kl with marschmallow, it seems working fine. :highfive:
Do you remove the first and second list from doze ? or ate testing with only the second list now?
Nice findings btw
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Do you remove the first and second list from doze ? or ate testing with only the second list now?
Nice findings btw
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I have removed everything from both of the lists. It's still early to say but no major battery drain is noticed for now. Thanks!
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I'm trying it on ze520kl with marschmallow, it seems working fine. :highfive:
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Awesome! :good:
Thank you so much for this article. Well written as well. I have applied the changes and so far no issues (it has been 6 h is). Will report once I have more history
I remove the apps from doze, and can say it really improve battery (test for one day)
thanks !
@Blackrose110 any news improvements after update3 ?
New update is released via OTA (~500MB).
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Too early to say, also I got a weird wakelock, and lost 2% overnight. I lost the results (100-90%) after a restart. Now I'm going to update my phone and start again.
I had 8% used up on 43 minutes of SOT, and 2% lost on voice calls (100 and something mAh). I went to bed with 92%, I guess the other 2% were lost on that wakelock and the clock wakelock. These 2% were lost on equal intervals.
It's going to take a while, I'm just using my device normally. I don't have time to be on my phone all the time, also the battery is harder to drain now. At this point, I'm just trying to get better results.
Cheers!
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@Blackrose110 any news improvements after update3 ?
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Check again tomorrow!
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New update is released via OTA (~500MB).
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Updating...
I don't think it is a good ideea to change Doze settings for system services like com.qualcomm.* or telephony*.
In theory, these services should be compatible with operating system and they should work as designed. I would focus on third-party apps who doesn't work well on Nougat.
Anyway, is just an opinion and i'm looking forward for updates
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I don't think it is a good ideea to change Doze settings for system services like com.qualcomm.* or telephony*.
In theory, these services should be compatible with operating system and they should work as designed. I would focus on third-party apps who doesn't work well on Nougat.
Anyway, is just an opinion and i'm looking forward for updates
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Hello ci6i, I also agree with you, and that's why I excluded all of them from Doze when I first tried this out. At the moment, I removed only those system services, that run in the background all the time. My goal is to find the least amount of system services and processes, that are causing battery drain when the phone is in use.
I am not saying that you should do exactly what I did. It's best if you try out yourself on your own device what works and what doesn't.
I also have only excluded from Doze apps that I use daily. But everyone is using different apps and it depends only on the developers to update them.
You can download Carat for free from Google Play and check the process list, it's very useful. The app itself doesn't use any battery.
Good luck!
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I am not saying that you should do exactly what I did. It's best if you try out yourself on your own device what works and what doesn't.
I also have only excluded from Doze apps that I use daily. But everyone is using different apps and it depends only on the developers to update them.
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I agree with you and i really appreciate your work Yesterday I've installed Carat after i read your first post and today i did new OTA update and cleared cache partition. Let's see how it works in the next few days.
What should I do next, guys? Remove other com.qualcomm/com.android/com.asus services or remove just MobileManagerService from Doze? I'm thinking about the second one, I'm curious to see if ti makes any difference. I think the results from the first test were the best, and the MobileManagerService was out of Doze as far as I remember. Might as well try and see what happens.
It's a bit hard to drain the battery these days, so updates might not be fast. Patience is key!
Yeahh final test!! Looking forward to the result
Hello guys. This topic is pretty long and it is hard to read all of it but try to read all of it till end.
Well, let me begin. The main problem of the nougat update is the dramatic increase of battery consumption (for me at least) But why this is happening?
Actually this is a matter of battery managers. Huawei had created a great phone but obviously they messed things up in the software side. Google announced "Doze" feature with Marshmallow. If we could have a brief explanation of "what doze is" is it is basically a battery protection policy created by google. In Android, apps have the ability to use what’s called a “wakelock” to prevent your phone from going into a power-saving deep sleep mode. This deep sleep mode usually kicks in when your phone’s screen is off, but that can get in the way of how some apps work. For example, if you’re using a fitness tracker, you don’t want your phone turning off GPS or your accelerometer just because your phone is in your pocket with the screen turned off.
In principle, this is a good concept. Apps keep your phone awake and working when they need to, and let it sleep when they don’t. This is a problem, though, when every developer thinks their app is important enough to keep your phone on all the time. That’s why apps like Facebook kill your battery, even when you’re not using them.
Doze helps solve this problem by periodically blocking wakelocks and shutting off network access if your phone goes unused for a while. It will then periodically allow apps to check in during “maintenance windows” every so often (these windows occur less frequently the longer you don’t use your device). Here is a graphical explanation of how doze works versus time:
http://itresan.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/doze-header.jpg
Doze helps solve this problem by periodically blocking wakelocks and shutting off network access if your phone goes unused for a while. It will then periodically allow apps to check in during “maintenance windows” every so often (these windows occur less frequently the longer you don’t use your device)
If we turn back to the main topic, as I mentioned before, Huawei has some difficulties combining it's own features with google's. Huawei has its own battery manager. That's why you are not receiving some notifications from facebook or whatsapp. That is because that freaking battery manager shuts everything off but still, since it has a very poor approach, the system drains battery. It is basically a matter of doze does not kicking in. As you can see, the battery usage when the screen is turned on is about the same. However, the same thing cannot be seem when the screen is off.
So what to do in order to save some juice?
-There is some workarounds for doze kicking in like these ones:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yirgalab.dzzz
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.suyashsrijan.forcedoze
These two apps have different approaches. I prefer ForceDoze as it seems the google's intended way.
I want to highlight this item because this might be the most important thing in this topic. If you don’t do anything with your phone, Doze will still do its job. It runs almost invisibly in the background. Occasionally you’ll get a few messages at once, rather than spread over a few minutes, but for the most part there’s no noticeable change. In other words this is a bit different from the conventional full deep sleep and you do not have to afraid from doze as you do with the full deep sleep.
-DO NOT CLEAN YOUR RAM TOO OFTEN. This will cause closed apps re-open and hence, more cpu usage.
-No! Cleaners, Task managers and other stuff does not work! As I mention before, they even lead more battery consumptions.
-Huawei has poor google service implementations. Even one or two implementation has some bugs that causing battery drain(for example: google backup). Try to turn them off.
-Know when to reboot your phone. Too frequent reboots may do the same thing as you cleaning your ram. However, rebooting cleans app caches so the system will work smoother. Once a week or two weeks is fine I suppose.
Please hit the "Thanks" button if you like and please point out the missing things and if you see a mistake please warn me for correcting it. I hope you liked the topic.
Have a nice day!
Doze is problem for me. I don't have push notification by the night.
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Doze is problem for me. I don't have push notification by the night.
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It's probably not because of the doze but the huawei's power manager itself.
Problem starts when phone is not active longer than 2-3 hours. In root I removed phone manager and it did not help fix the push notification problem
darrr1 said:
Problem starts when phone is not active longer than 2-3 hours. In root I removed phone manager and it did not help fix the push notification problem
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Assuming that you are on huawei release (not los releases), untick your app from close apps after screen lock. Then go to apps, settings, special access, and make the system ignore battery optimizations for the spesific app you want to get notification from.
I did everything what I can without succes.
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Assuming that you are on huawei release (not los releases), untick your app from close apps after screen lock. Then go to apps, settings, special access, and make the system ignore battery optimizations for the spesific app you want to get notification from.
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first thanks for this tip. i hate it that i dont receive whatsapp messenges all the time, i hope it will work now.
BTP:
I assume huawei did not remove "doze" from our firmware, but maybe they replaced it with theire own battery manager?
Is there a complete source for doze, so we can check if everything is there? If yes it should not be that hard to activate doze and deactivate the huawei one.
But i guess we need at least the kernel sources to clear things up?
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first thanks for this tip. i hate it that i dont receive whatsapp messenges all the time, i hope it will work now.
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I assume huawei did not remove "doze" from our firmware, but maybe they replaced it with theire own battery manager?
Is there a complete source for doze, so we can check if everything is there? If yes it should not be that hard to activate doze and deactivate the huawei one.
But i guess we need at least the kernel sources to clear things up?
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Doze is not on kernel level but it is on software level. Programmatically we can activate what is left from doze or at least simulate it. However, if there is a certain need for doze we should cook a whole new rom and yes, it requires open source too.
But, let's clear a thing here: Huawei did not completely removed doze. Actually, I think they can't do that if they wish to use Android. Just some settings of Huawei conflicts with doze and prevent its functioning.
I'm using the honor 9 with emui 5.1 (android 7.0) and screebl (app used to control how and when screen locks/times out) is constantly getting killed. I have added it to ignore(=allow to run) in battery optimization and it's activated as a device administrator. It is not selected to close (power intensive app prompt) or instructed to close when screen goes off. Yet it repeatedly is getting killed - is there something else I need to do? I can't seem to find anything else I can do to stop it from being killed and it's a major nuisance.
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I'm using the honor 9 with emui 5.1 (android 7.0) and screebl (app used to control how and when screen locks/times out) is constantly getting killed. I have added it to ignore(=allow to run) in battery optimization and it's activated as a device administrator. It is not selected to close (power intensive app prompt) or instructed to close when screen goes off. Yet it repeatedly is getting killed - is there something else I need to do? I can't seem to find anything else I can do to stop it from being killed and it's a major nuisance.
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Could you finally solve this?
I also have and Honor 9, and have the same problem with aplicacition radardroid. Is getting killed, and also have all configured to prevent this...
Try by having both in the Settings
-Battery/Close apps after lock screen (uncheck in the list)
-Apps/Settings gear/Special access/Ignore battery optimization (make it allowed)
Thank szgfg,
Both are already well configured, but still closing the app.
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Thank szgfg,
Both are already well configured, but still closing the app.
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Check also is not being closed by the automatic cleanup (so add it to clean whitelisted apps) and that is not being closed due to high consumption...disable that on battery settings... Let the advertisement but do not let phone administrator close that apps automatically
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Hi jcalderonv74,
Thanks for your answer. I didn't know about the clean whitelisted apps, was a surprise to find it. But unfortunetly, everything was well configured.
Option to avoid being closed due to high consumption was already OK.
So nothing to change, everything was as it has to be. Seems more a software problem in EMUI 5.0
After some days without touching anything in the phone's configuration, finally observed that everything is working fine. All aplications configured keep opened, and it's only Radardroid aplication that sometimes closes alone (only sporadically after a recent update)
Seems more an error in Radardroid aplication that in telephone's software. So I'm not worring more about that.
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So I've been browsing for the past 2 hours on wifi and these are my stats.
Battery: 2200 mAh
SoC: Extremely Power Hungry MT6591
Brightness: Adequate
Now at 35%, the phone was being used pretty much constantly (chrome, a movie in mx player, imgur, 2 hours on whatsapp, light CoC)
Here are the results.
19%. And this is the max I could manage. Going to plugin now.
Testing out now...Thanks!!
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Blue Blood Modified Battery Profile (SOT) for L Speed + GovTuner
NOTE: This profile and the configurations for GovTuner is entirely based upon the need for more SOT or 'screen-on-time'. Performance improvements are not the 'primary' objective, but there are some.
Name: Sorry but I couldn't make up a better one. LOL.
This profile will try its best to give you a better screen on time taking into consideration there will be some decrease in performance (some visible, some not).
Installation Instructions
Part 1 - L Speed
1. Download the .zip file attached.
2. Open it with any file manager/archiver and you should see the profile file.
3. Goto your SD Card -> LSpeedBackup (create folder if it doesn't exist) and paste the file inside the .zip there.
4. Open L Speed -> Backup -> Restore: Blue Blood.
L Speed's done.
Part 2 - GovTuner
1. Visit GovTuner's XDA thread and download the latest zip file.
2. Flash the zip file and install 'Terminal Emulator' from playstore.
3. Open 'Terminal Emulator', and type 'su' and enter. Grant the SuperSU request and you will now be in a root shell.
4. Now type 'govtuner' and enter.
5. Choose battery profile by typing '1' and touching enter.
6. After activating battery profile, enter 'i' and enter '2' as the value.
7. Now you can press the 'X' on the top right hand corner to close the window.
GovTuner is now all setup.
You are pretty much ready now. Enjoy your extra SOT!!
I SERIOUSLY RECOMMEND USING AppOpsXposed, Greenify, Amplify and Powernap with this to get rid of the idle drain because in the end that too translate to a better SOT. :highfive: (The below results are obtained with the help of those applications too)
My phone which is an extremely battery hungry thing needs to be charged atleast 3 times a day to last from morning to night. With this I've managed to get away with just 1 charge for 14 hours (4-4.5 hours of SOT vs 1-2 hours).
Please do reply back with your experiences. I'm waiting for some happy faces. :fingers-crossed:
Also criticisms. :angel:
Credits: Debuffer (GovTuner), Paget96 (L Speed)
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Any alternatives to AppOpsXposed, Amplify and Powernap that don't require Xposed?? Already use Greenify and Servicely.
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Testing out now...Thanks!!
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Any alternatives to AppOpsXposed, Amplify and Powernap that don't require Xposed?? Already use Greenify and Servicely.
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You can use AppOps from play store which doesn't need xposed. Alternatives to Powernap? Naptime works. Amplify doesn't have an alternative to my knowledge sorry
Hey, thanks for sharing this! Much needed for my phone htc desire 816 (a5dwg) running lineage 7.1.1 and at any rom, it is hungry. I mean literally I've purchased a new original 2600mAh battery for this reason. Still the problem persists. Today only, I've charged the phone to full and kept it on airplane and silent (took the phone to school ), and found that after 3 hours, battery is 20-25% reduced. I'm a little noob that's why I'm asking you that "what are the steps that should be followed / apps to be installed to maintain the battery like yours
Thanks in advance ?
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Hey, thanks for sharing this! Much needed for my phone htc desire 816 (a5dwg) running lineage 7.1.1 and at any rom, it is hungry. I mean literally I've purchased a new original 2600mAh battery for this reason. Still the problem persists. Today only, I've charged the phone to full and kept it on airplane and silent (took the phone to school ), and found that after 3 hours, battery is 20-25% reduced. I'm a little noob that's why I'm asking you that "what are the steps that should be followed / apps to be installed to maintain the battery like yours
Thanks in advance ?
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Glad I can help. Something is keeping your phone awake all that time that its's not going to deep sleep. That's mostly Google to blame but let's start with the basics
Before that don't call yourself a noob. You got a custom ROM running, most people I know can't even do that.
To fix Idle Drain
First find if you have Idle drain.
Install Better Battery Stats and open it, grant root etc. Now plug the phone to the charger and hit refresh. Now unplug the charger, turn the screen off for a minute or so.
Now turn it on, you should see the device state. If it says Deep Sleep 0%, then the below things can help you.
Disable background Wi-Fi scanning.
Your phone scans for WiFi even when you turn it off. The steps below are based on my Lollipop 5.1, but I believe it's the same on 7.1 too.
Goto Settings -> Wifi -> The three buttons on the top right -> Advanced
There disable 'Network Notifications', 'Scanning Always Available' and 'Keep Wifi awake during sleep'.
Greenify
You must already be using this.
As a rule of thumb, greenify any app which requires an internet connection, those keep waking the system over and over again. Just make sure you don't add any core system apps.
If you have Facebook's app installed, remove it. It's the biggest battery hogging app ever happened (i don't agree that's made) in human history. Use it in chrome. Or any wrapper apps from Play store: Metal, Friendly are a few options.
If you have xposed installed,
Powernap
Set it to endurance mode and that's all. Whitelist amplify, greenify and lspeed. You can whitelist more apps later if you feel the need.
Amplify
This is a must in reducing wakelocks. Unfortunately I can't write the whole procedure here because it's been done before. Check this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
Still, every phone is unique. After following that thread, IF your device still isn't sleeping (after trying the below too), try blocking more wakelocks. Do a search if you are not sure of a particular wakelock. It will take some time, but it will be worth it.
AppOpsXposed
You can disable some of Google's data collection and analytics whatever stuff using this. Follow this nice thread. It helps massively.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/existenz-hacks-tweaks-battery-life-t3516705
If you have managed to get that deep sleep in BetterBatteryStats almost 90% of the time the screen was off, then congratulations you have fixed your Idle drain.
Reply back with your experiences. :fingers-crossed:
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Glad I can help. Something is keeping your phone awake all that time that its's not going to deep sleep. That's mostly Google to blame but let's start with the basics
Before that don't call yourself a noob. You got a custom ROM running, most people I know can't even do that.
To fix Idle Drain
First find if you have Idle drain.
Install Better Battery Stats and open it, grant root etc. Now plug the phone to the charger and hit refresh. Now unplug the charger, turn the screen off for a minute or so.
Now turn it on, you should see the device state. If it says Deep Sleep 0%, then the below things can help you.
Disable background Wi-Fi scanning.
Your phone scans for WiFi even when you turn it off. The steps below are based on my Lollipop 5.1, but I believe it's the same on 7.1 too.
Goto Settings -> Wifi -> The three buttons on the top right -> Advanced
There disable 'Network Notifications', 'Scanning Always Available' and 'Keep Wifi awake during sleep'.
Greenify
You must already be using this.
As a rule of thumb, greenify any app which requires an internet connection, those keep waking the system over and over again. Just make sure you don't add any core system apps.
If you have Facebook's app installed, remove it. It's the biggest battery hogging app ever happened (i don't agree that's made) in human history. Use it in chrome. Or any wrapper apps from Play store: Metal, Friendly are a few options.
If you have xposed installed,
Powernap
Set it to endurance mode and that's all. You can whitelist apps later if you feel the need.
Amplify
This is a must in reducing wakelocks. Unfortunately I can't write the whole procedure here because it's been done before. Check this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
Still, every phone is unique. After following that thread, IF your device still isn't sleeping (after trying the below too), try blocking more wakelocks. Do a search if you are not sure of a particular wakelock. It will take some time, but it will be worth it.
AppOpsXposed
You can disable some of Google's data collection and analytics whatever stuff using this. Follow this nice thread. It helps massively.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/existenz-hacks-tweaks-battery-life-t3516705
If you have managed to get that deep sleep in BetterBatteryStats almost 90% of the time the screen was off, then congratulations you have fixed your Idle drain.
Reply back with your experiences. :fingers-crossed:
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Thankyou so much, will try this surely ?
Adithya FRK said:
Glad I can help. Something is keeping your phone awake all that time that its's not going to deep sleep. That's mostly Google to blame but let's start with the basics
Before that don't call yourself a noob. You got a custom ROM running, most people I know can't even do that.
To fix Idle Drain
First find if you have Idle drain.
Install Better Battery Stats and open it, grant root etc. Now plug the phone to the charger and hit refresh. Now unplug the charger, turn the screen off for a minute or so.
Now turn it on, you should see the device state. If it says Deep Sleep 0%, then the below things can help you.
Disable background Wi-Fi scanning.
Your phone scans for WiFi even when you turn it off. The steps below are based on my Lollipop 5.1, but I believe it's the same on 7.1 too.
Goto Settings -> Wifi -> The three buttons on the top right -> Advanced
There disable 'Network Notifications', 'Scanning Always Available' and 'Keep Wifi awake during sleep'.
Greenify
You must already be using this.
As a rule of thumb, greenify any app which requires an internet connection, those keep waking the system over and over again. Just make sure you don't add any core system apps.
If you have Facebook's app installed, remove it. It's the biggest battery hogging app ever happened (i don't agree that's made) in human history. Use it in chrome. Or any wrapper apps from Play store: Metal, Friendly are a few options.
If you have xposed installed,
Powernap
Set it to endurance mode and that's all. You can whitelist apps later if you feel the need.
Amplify
This is a must in reducing wakelocks. Unfortunately I can't write the whole procedure here because it's been done before. Check this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
Still, every phone is unique. After following that thread, IF your device still isn't sleeping (after trying the below too), try blocking more wakelocks. Do a search if you are not sure of a particular wakelock. It will take some time, but it will be worth it.
AppOpsXposed
You can disable some of Google's data collection and analytics whatever stuff using this. Follow this nice thread. It helps massively.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/existenz-hacks-tweaks-battery-life-t3516705
If you have managed to get that deep sleep in BetterBatteryStats almost 90% of the time the screen was off, then congratulations you have fixed your Idle drain.
Reply back with your experiences. :fingers-crossed:
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I've installed "L Speed" and greenify from play store
& I've shred my stats. Pls look and suggest improvements
singhjot0020 said:
I've installed "L Speed" and greenify from play store
& I've shred my stats. Pls look and suggest improvements
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Can you also post a screenshot of your battery stats
Adithya FRK said:
Can you also post a screenshot of your battery stats
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Sorry, I've switched to stock to check battery capabilities but still problem persists
Battery droppes from 100 to 83 in 30-35 minutes
in govtuner change the gov to ondemand, i guess u use perfomance.
What can I do, I got a notification that L speed us eating my battery...but if optimized will not work as it should right?
Today update my Rom and got error. Not working because if use 3th party kernel ini.t emulator...but I'm not using one.
Sir_gpm said:
What can I do, I got a notification that L speed us eating my battery...but if optimized will not work as it should right?
Today update my Rom and got error. Not working because if use 3th party kernel ini.t emulator...but I'm not using one.
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What ROM are you using?
FreedomOS for oneplus 3t.
@Adithya FRK
Choosing battery profile from govtuner is the same as choosing it from Lspeed CPU menu, right? Or is there some significant change between the two?
ninjanmizuki said:
@Adithya FRK
Choosing battery profile from govtuner is the same as choosing it from Lspeed CPU menu, right? Or is there some significant change between the two?
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Both are the same. See post #2 of GovTuner's official thread here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mod-gov-tuner-project-29th-june-2016-t3407828
But don't enable both of them at the same time.
After 1 whole month of tweaking with various functions of L Speed, finally found a combination to improve the battery even more.
BlueBlood v2.1 (Download link in Post #1)
Tested on L Speed Beta from Play Store.
Adithya FRK said:
After 1 whole month of tweaking with various functions of L Speed, finally found a combination to improve the battery even more.
BlueBlood v2.1 (Download link in Post #1)
Tested on L Speed Beta from Play Store.
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Sir, can u share your KA settings, such as your govenor, i/o
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Hi, I'm using EMUI 5 on my Honor 8 (FRD-L04 so still noreo ) and was wondering if we still have to set apps to ignore battery optimization to get notifications. When I first got my phone I installed all the apps and set them to ignore battery optimizations so that I could get notifications but lately my battery life is pretty ****ty, especially since these apps ignore doze. So I'd like to know if people still have to set apps to ignore doze or does notifications work like they're supposed to after so many updates? Thanks!
By ignore battery optimization you mean enabling auto-start on each app? I haven't faced any battery life decrease with it enabled.
Elpsycongroo13 said:
By ignore battery optimization you mean enabling auto-start on each app? I haven't faced any battery life decrease with it enabled.
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Not that one. Like inside settings there is a page called ignore battery optimizations which helps apps bypass doze.
Battery Optimization always turn off my MicroG and Volume Style
Detail:
I Use MicroG for Vanced, and Volume Style for swipe volume. (I like these two apps very much for several years) Then need to turn off battery optimization. I choose to not optimize. Then it will always back to optimize. Every day, every time I should find these two apps, and set to not optimize.
Open app setting and turn off battery saver too, still the same.
Is it because of MIUI Optimization ? is it okay to turn it off? Or I just have to give up using those two apps anymore :crying:?
you can turn off MIUI optimization. try enable microG in autostart. and disable Miui battery saver in microG. recomend use MIUI eu for this youtube vanced for better experience.
Pepiii said:
I Use MicroG for Vanced, and Volume Style for swipe volume. (I like these two apps very much for several years) Then need to turn off battery optimization. I choose to not optimize. Then it will always back to optimize.
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Can confirm, I'm seeing the same here (Vanced on stock EU v12.0.3.0).
same here, especially if you reboot the optimisation comes back...very frustrating.
Alvian_P said:
you can turn off MIUI optimization. try enable microG in autostart. and disable Miui battery saver in microG. recomend use MIUI eu for this youtube vanced for better experience.
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So, is it better to turn MIUI Optimization off or not ?
Pepiii said:
So, is it better to turn MIUI Optimization off or not ?
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You don't need to turn off MIUI optimization. What's basically happening is that Microg doesn't request the proper app permissions for it to run on background smoothly. Even if you manually grant it the required permission i.e. Allow_in_power_save, it won't work, since it doesn't use it and MIUI requires it to be set to specify what to do. In short if you are worried about functionality then don't be. And if the notification bothers you, you can turn it off like in screenshots below.
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You don't need to turn off MIUI optimization. What's basically happening is that Microg doesn't request the proper app permissions for it to run on background smoothly. Even if you manually grant it the required permission i.e. Allow_in_power_save, it won't work, since it doesn't use it and MIUI requires it to be set to specify what to do. In short if you are worried about functionality then don't be. And if the notification bothers you, you can turn it off like in screenshots below.
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I get it, so it means MicroG will still function well even though the notification appeared.
And what about function in Volume Style that always turn off because it back to optimize even I've already make it not optimize. Is there any suggestions what I have to do ?
seems MIUI battery settings seem to revert back after a while for "important apps" - such as Nova launcher for example.
i have optimisation off in developer settings, but no matter how many times i set specific apps to "no restriction" , MIUI 12 just reverts back after a little while.
nickmax1 said:
seems MIUI battery settings seem to revert back after a while for "important apps" - such as Nova launcher for example.
i have optimisation off in developer settings, but no matter how many times i set specific apps to "no restriction" , MIUI 12 just reverts back after a little while.
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Developer options>standby mode
Try setting all buckets to active*; if they're not already locked to active, power management is active.
Find the app causing this and deal with it directly.
Power management... destroyer of worlds
*this may work but the power management app may simple reset the bucket state latter.
blackhawk said:
Developer options>standby mode
Try setting all buckets to active*; if they're not already locked to active, power management is active.
Find the app causing this and deal with it directly.
Power management... destroyer of worlds
*this may work but the power management app may simple reset the bucket state latter.
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I have no setting in Developer Options called "Standby mode"
nickmax1 said:
I have no setting in Developer Options called "Standby mode"
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I don't know then...
anyone found a solution for this? will using venced in root mode be any better?? what if one keeps the battery optimizations on for microG will venced still work as expected??
blzbh said:
anyone found a solution for this? will using venced in root mode be any better?? what if one keeps the battery optimizations on for microG will venced still work as expected??
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For those wondering (this thread is a top match via Google), the solution is to simply enable the app icon in microG settings. You can get to settings via YouTube Vanced. Then MIUI will treat it like a standard app, allowing you to disable battery optimisation and it will persist across reboots.
nickmax1 said:
I have no setting in Developer Options called "Standby mode"
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Standby apps...
This is how it should appear if global power management is disabled. Although the bucket shows all buckets as active, many are not and not using battery or any resources like ApkExport or Autostarts which weren't in the memory cache at the time this screen shot was taken.