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Hello everyone
Since there are no forums for this magnificent phone on xda developers until now, I've decided to open a temporary one until our great developers create a dedicated one.
I think this phone is by far the one with most features until this moment and being the 1st in many things!
- 6" amoled QHD screen made by LG (No notch thank heavens)
- HiSilicon Kirin 970 processor (with a chipset consisting of a layer of 9.7 million PCM microcapsules which absorb, store, and slowly dissipate heat, meaning the phone shouldn’t get too hot).
- 6gb ram and 256/512gb storage (1st phone 512gb)
- DolbyAtmos Stereo speakers
- Front in-display (1st commercial phone) and rear fingerprint sensors (1st to have both)
- Face unlocking which is very quick
- Triple rear cameras (1st phone together with p20 pro) being one of the best among other phones. 40 MP RGB / 20 MP Monochrome / 8 MP Telephoto
- 24 MP front facing camera
- 4000 mah battery with super fast charging
- Wireless charging (1st huawei phone)
- IR blaster (rare in phones these days)
- Knuckle Gestures for commands (very convenient)
- Dual sim
- Desktop mode with just a simple hdmi connector
- Private space (another secured phone mode with a different fingerprint)
- IP67
- VoLTE and wifi calling
What else do you want from a handheld device? It's a smartphone geek's dream come true, isn't it? I definitely admit that it is too overpriced but come on its a signature piece of beauty. At least you will be one of the few people in this world holding a true flagship phone!
To be honest I fell in love with this phone as soon I laid my eyes on it and especially after knowing all the specs on board. It's a dream come true.
I kindly request all the owners of this master piece to please post their thoughts and experiences with this phone to help me and others take a good idea about the phone because there are only few reviews available on youtube.
Until there is a dedicated topic, thanks for showing up here and wishing for your participations!
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You know you're right man! It is indeed a great device. I saw some reviews on YouTube and I was completely blown away! It looks much better than the original P20 Pro but unfortunately, the price tag is very high. I personally can't afford to get it but for those who can I think you should go out and buy one! You most certainly will not regret it as it truly is a beast with class.
As you say, it's quite overpriced for a device that (like all phones) will be outdated in about 1 years time.
Still, I like the design and the extra features like wireless charging and in-screen fingerprint scanner. Hopefully they'll include these in the upcoming Mate 20.
I got one two days ago. Initial impressions:
- build quality is very nice, but extremely similar in look and feel to S9. The Porsche logo at the front is very discreet and you barely see it in practice. Screen is perhaps more curved at edges and I have had the odd time where my hand triggers screen touches just holding it. Screen quality is very good but some slight colour shifting at an angle. Back gets smudged in fingerprints of course, but overall I like the design. I think the symmetry of the cameras and reader at the back looks smart. Nice weight and perfect overall size for me.
- in-screen reader is the big innovation of course. It shows you where to press when you move the phone which is nice. It also has a cool animation when reading and unlocking. Still a bit picky and does not work all the time but clearly this is going to be standard on all phones soon. I actually find it really useful to unlock the phone when it is lying on my desk.
- the rest I think is standard P20 Pro? It's my first Huawei in a while so getting used to EMUI again. Still struggling getting widgets working.
Overpriced? Absolutely. But it is a very well rounded device overall and of course unique. I switch phones around a lot but for the first time I might actually say I have a phone with no obvious flaws.
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I got one two days ago. Initial impressions:
- build quality is very nice, but extremely similar in look and feel to S9. The Porsche logo at the front is very discreet and you barely see it in practice. Screen is perhaps more curved at edges and I have had the odd time where my hand triggers screen touches just holding it. Screen quality is very good but some slight colour shifting at an angle. Back gets smudged in fingerprints of course, but overall I like the design. I think the symmetry of the cameras and reader at the back looks smart. Nice weight and perfect overall size for me.
- in-screen reader is the big innovation of course. It shows you where to press when you move the phone which is nice. It also has a cool animation when reading and unlocking. Still a bit picky and does not work all the time but clearly this is going to be standard on all phones soon. I actually find it really useful to unlock the phone when it is lying on my desk.
- the rest I think is standard P20 Pro? It's my first Huawei in a while so getting used to EMUI again. Still struggling getting widgets working.
Overpriced? Absolutely. But it is a very well rounded device overall and of course unique. I switch phones around a lot but for the first time I might actually say I have a phone with no obvious flaws.
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Congratulations for the phone and Thank you so much for sharing your experience with this outstanding piece of tech!
I just want you to confirm some doubts please.
Is it a hybrid phone? Meaning it can take 2 sims or 1 sim and SDcard or is it just a regular dual sim?
Is there any issues with the slo-mo mode?
How is the battery life?
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Looks like it's just dual sim. How do I check? I don't really want to shove a card in there. I don't see any SD storage coming up anywhere in storage settings.
Slowmo looks awesome to me but never had this kind of rate in a phone before so have no reference. I know some reviews talked about artifacts but I played with some water droplets and liked the results. You have to time it as it starts recording in normal and then goes slow after a few seconds.
Not had enough time yet to evaluate battery life but initial impressions are good. But I will be using wireless charger during the day anyway so am not concerned.
A few other comments:
Face unlock is incredible. Works instantaneously, even in v low light.
Porsche theming is a bit disappointing. Just a few average wallpapers and a widget which won't work on a different launcher.
Like a lot of reviews say, camera is not as initially impressive as pixel 2 but need more time to play with options.
Hope that helps.
I'm also interested in this overpriced phone but before I buy can you please confirm it has wifi calling?
I'm with EE and unfortunately, at work, I don't have the best of reception so rely on the wifi calling.
I know Huawei P20 Pro has wifi calling feature which this phone is based on so it should be there.
It’s dual sim only. Don’t use a micro Sd card.
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I'm also interested in this overpriced phone but before I buy can you please confirm it has wifi calling?
I'm with EE and unfortunately, at work, I don't have the best of reception so rely on the wifi calling.
I know Huawei P20 Pro has wifi calling feature which this phone is based on so it should be there.
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I am not seeing WiFi calling anywhere in the settings but do I have to be enrolled for it to appear? I am not registered for it with my carrier. Where should it show?
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I am not seeing WiFi calling anywhere in the settings but do I have to be enrolled for it to appear? I am not registered for it with my carrier. Where should it show?
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What network are you with? With EE it's active.
It should be under: (Connect your phone to WiFi) then go to > Settings > More (in ‘Wireless & networks’ section) > Wi-Fi calling > Tap the Wi-Fi calling switch to Enable or it could be like this: WiFi calling under "settings" > "wireless & networks" => "call settings"
I’ve asked 2 of my tech friends who had loan units. I’m hoping at least one of them can answer the WiFi calling. I’m on Three and my sim free P20 Pro has WiFi calling, so I’m hoping this version has to. I can’t imagine it won’t.
I don't see WiFi calling anywhere in settings in networks or calling. When I search 'Wi-Fi' in settings nothing with calling comes up.
I am on Rogers in Canada and I just tried to register but the website says my device is not eligible once I enter the code. Would the settings change if the phone recognizes that it is registered?
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I don't see WiFi calling anywhere in settings in networks or calling. When I search 'Wi-Fi' in settings nothing with calling comes up.
I am on Rogers in Canada and I just tried to register but the website says my device is not eligible once I enter the code. Would the settings change if the phone recognizes that it is registered?
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Ok, it could mean wi-fi calling settings will only show if the carrier supports it, so I'm guessing Rogers don't. Thank you for checking. I need to find retailer that will allow me to have a full hands on and insert my EE sim to see if it has wifi calling, I would be surprised if it doesn't as this phone is practically based on Huawei P20 Pro!
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gavinfabl said:
I’ve asked 2 of my tech friends who had loan units. I’m hoping at least one of them can answer the WiFi calling. I’m on Three and my sim free P20 Pro has WiFi calling, so I’m hoping this version has to. I can’t imagine it won’t.
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Likewise I hope they can confirm the wifi calling as this feature is a deal breaker for me on getting this phone!
Ok good news can confirm wifi calling is available!?
You will only see the wifi calling settings if your operator/sim support this feature.
gfreek said:
Ok good news can confirm wifi calling is available!
You will only see the wifi calling settings if your operator/sim support this feature.
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Cool. How did you find this out..
gavinfabl said:
Cool. How did you find this out..
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Went to Porsche Design boutique in Brompton Road, Knightsbridge. I asked them if I could put my EE SIM into their display model to confirm Wifi-Calling they were kind enough to oblige. See attached screenshot.
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Went to Porsche Design boutique in Brompton Road, Knightsbridge. I asked them if I could put my EE SIM into their display model to confirm Wifi-Calling they were kind enough to oblige. See attached screenshot.
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Excellent, what was phone like in person, and what price did the PD shop ask for ?
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Excellent, what was phone like in person, and what price did the PD shop ask for ?
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I would describe the phone as a more refined Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus, especially the back very symmetrical really feels good in the hand it definitely feels premium. My current handset is an iPhone X (love the hardware hate iOS) so side by side Mate RS holds its own.
My only design criticism would be that it was lazy on Porsche Design part to have copied Samsung Galaxy S9 and just refined it they could have been more original be a little more adventurous etc... but they played it safe! Price was £1475.00 for 256GB they don't have the 512GB in stock yet price for that is estimated to be around £1995.00 - £2099
I appreciate it is Porsche Design so you have to pay a premium but really this phone is overpriced IMHO it should have been more around the £995.00 for £256GB and £1299.00 -£1399 for the 512GB.
That being said I will end up buying this handset I know it's crazy to spend so much on a phone but I like the features this phone has, really this what the P20 Pro should have been. I did have Oneplus 6 on my shortlist but was disappointed to see them embracing the notch when there was no need to implement it.
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I don't see WiFi calling anywhere in settings in networks or calling. When I search 'Wi-Fi' in settings nothing with calling comes up.
I am on Rogers in Canada and I just tried to register but the website says my device is not eligible once I enter the code. Would the settings change if the phone recognizes that it is registered?
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I'm with Rogers too and am interested in the Mate RS. I have the P20 Pro, so am getting used to EMUI and its quirks. Have you gotten any updates for the RS? Given that it is a really small market for this phone, I'm concerned about Huawei pushing any updates to this model. I see some issues with the P20 Pro (i.e. issues with the Wear OS app etc) and if those issues are there on the Mate RS, would like to understand if they get addressed quickly.
Also, what's your experience with the call quality?
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I'm with Rogers too and am interested in the Mate RS. I have the P20 Pro, so am getting used to EMUI and its quirks. Have you gotten any updates for the RS? Given that it is a really small market for this phone, I'm concerned about Huawei pushing any updates to this model. I see some issues with the P20 Pro (i.e. issues with the Wear OS app etc) and if those issues are there on the Mate RS, would like to understand if they get addressed quickly.
Also, what's your experience with the call quality?
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Not received any updates yet - even on initial boot which was surprising. It is currently on 8.1.0.107 (C721). I agree - I am also concerned that it will not be prioritized for updates given small quantities and likelihood of the buyers not caring that much. The good news is that there are essentially only a few versions made so at least it won't get stuck in the branding/countries delays.
Call quality is excellent, just like my previous Pixel 2. Battery life is not striking me as amazing so far, but I have had the AOD on which does not really add much expect for a nice looking clock!
As mentioned above, it is a unique high-quality device but probably not worth the premium over the P20 Pro. It all depends how much that uniqueness and cutting edge tech is worth to you!
I currently have an S9+, and aside from the battery dying much quicker than it used to, it still runs fine. I was looking at trading in for the S21+ since T-Mobile has a decent offer, but I'm having trouble deciding if it's worth it. The specs don't look to be that huge of a leap above what I have now, slightly faster processor and slightly more memory, and the screen resolution is actually a downgrade. Plus, no SD card.
The Ultra looks like it would be, but I don't want to spend quite that much. I'm not seeing enough to convince me on the 21+ Am I missing something or is it really not worth upgrading?
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I currently have an S9+, and aside from the battery dying much quicker than it used to, it still runs fine. I was looking at trading in for the S21+ since T-Mobile has a decent offer, but I'm having trouble deciding if it's worth it. The specs don't look to be that huge of a leap above what I have now, slightly faster processor and slightly more memory, and the screen resolution is actually a downgrade. Plus, no SD card.
The Ultra looks like it would be, but I don't want to spend quite that much. I'm not seeing enough to convince me on the 21+ Am I missing something or is it really not worth upgrading?
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Jump on the hype train my dude ! Look at funny camera holes, not good 4 trypophobia lul
Spoiler: Me ranting about the design
No seriously, I think the upgrade is more on the look and feel side than anything else, and my personal tastes don't really hate the new design but don't love it either. It's like they tried to be revolutionary, then someone on twitter told them the first design was offensive to the [insert random common point, physical trait, interests and tastes] group of people, so they sanatized it so everyone would not feel it's awful. Well it worked, I don't think it awful but damn that's booooooorrriiiiiiiiiinnng.
in short I think you're fine with what you have, and i may even say try to look elsewhere a little, you might find your true love (in phone of course) in another brand
Have a nice day.
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Jump on the hype train my dude ! Look at funny camera holes, not good 4 trypophobia lul
Spoiler: Me ranting about the design
No seriously, I think the upgrade is more on the look and feel side than anything else, and my personal tastes don't really hate the new design but don't love it either. It's like they tried to be revolutionary, then someone on twitter told them the first design was offensive to the [insert random common point, physical trait, interests and tastes] group of people, so they sanatized it so everyone would not feel it's awful. Well it worked, I don't think it awful but damn that's booooooorrriiiiiiiiiinnng.
in short I think you're fine with what you have, and i may even say try to look elsewhere a little, you might find your true love (in phone of course) in another brand
Have a nice day.
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Thanks, I'm already leaning towards not getting the S21. I don't understand how it's barely an upgrade (and in some ways a downgrade) from the phone I've had for 3 years. Looking into the OnePlus 8T right now.
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Thanks, I'm already leaning towards not getting the S21. I don't understand how it's barely an upgrade (and in some ways a downgrade) from the phone I've had for 3 years. Looking into the OnePlus 8T right now.
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I have a OP8. OnePlus is. A good brand, but if you prefer smaller phones (which I doubt since you had samsung phones lol), check Google Pixels
Yeah, I like the biggest screen I can afford. Watch a lot of Netflix/Prime/Youtube on the go. I already went ahead and ordered that OnePlus 8T after reading more reviews and the forums here. Can't beat the price of free when I trade in the S9.
I decided to upgrade from my Note 9 to the 21+. Why? Because I felt like it and got a great deal from AT&T on my trade in. My Note was running fine, but it is getting a little long in the tooth since It's been 2+ years.
I chose the Plus because I wanted the bigger screen and bigger battery. The glass vs plastic wasn't an issue for me, I'd have been fine with either. I also didn't want to spend the $$$ for the Ultra since I'm not a big photo person, just a casual photographer for personal purposes. The plus was just in that nice sweet spot for me, and I knew this would be the last flagship that I'd get the big $800 credit from AT&T for a trade-in, so I figured I might as well take advantage while I could.
How much the battery on your S9+ last?
With the S21+ you will have twice the battery time. The 1080+ screen actually increases battery time by about 20-30% over the unncecessarily high (IMO) QHD+ resolution
And apart from battery is far better in processor power of course, and an upgrade in genearl in many ways... On screen fingerprint reader, much faster one, far better cameras, better audio, and so on
Definitely worth it. My last phone is exynos s9+ and definitely s21+ (exynos) double performance and double the battery life
I came from a VZW Pixel 3aXl....to a Unlocked phone... seems like an upgrade to me, plus I got 200 bucks tradein
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I currently have an S9+, and aside from the battery dying much quicker than it used to, it still runs fine. I was looking at trading in for the S21+ since T-Mobile has a decent offer, but I'm having trouble deciding if it's worth it. The specs don't look to be that huge of a leap above what I have now, slightly faster processor and slightly more memory, and the screen resolution is actually a downgrade. Plus, no SD card.
The Ultra looks like it would be, but I don't want to spend quite that much. I'm not seeing enough to convince me on the 21+ Am I missing something or is it really not worth upgrading?
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The s21 Plus looks great but honestly I went from Samsung to Sony to Huawei to Xiaomi and I find Xiaomi to be the best, decent custom ROM support and good hardware, a lot cheaper than Samsung devices too. Maybe take a look at the Mi 10 Ultra? Not sure about where you are from though, afaik you have to import them into the UK. If you don't mind flashing a new ROM to your phone and tinkering around with it, I'd go for a Xiaomi. Big fan of Sony's though, the hardware is awesome and they're pretty much bloat free out of the box
I moved from S10+ to S21+ and I'm happy with the change because S21's screen is flat, the battery life improved, the camera improved a lot, the fingerprint scanner is way much better than s10+, I like the screen to be setup to 96Khz for example, still it has the crappy amoled with terrible PWM like most of the phones... If you have the S9+ that has much worse battery than s10+, the s21+ could be a good choice in all senses.
Take in consideration that Android 11 is still not very good in general and we need to wait 6 month till we will see an improvement.
I never been interested in the ultra because its curved screen, is not practical.
Like everyone else whether a device is an "upgrade" comes down to preferences, useful features which make a difference. Price is a consideration but not an issue if the device stacks up. Trade-in promotional pricing doesn't motivate me for a number of reasons. First off, I don't want to deal with carrier bloatware. Secondly, I don't care to enter into a muli-year commitment with any Service Provider. Lastly, all US Galaxy variants are bootloader locked.
My daily driver is an SM-G9750, S10 Plus, Hong Kong variant. I would enjoy Snapdragon's latest SoC found on the S21 but that's not saying the S10 Plus is slow, it's not. A larger battery is also appealing but I'm pretty sure I'll still need to charge the battery once a day. The cameras on the S21 Plus are the same as the S20 Plus and the only difference from the S10 Plus is a bit larger appiture. 5G is in it's infancy but at this time many of the useful iOT it will enable aren't yet available. Additionally, many 5G users state it's not much faster if any, than a good 4G pipe but at this time for device manufacturers and service providers 5G is a goldmine, the greatest marketing scheme since light beer. Based on my preferences these are issues I have with the S21 Plus.
1) No MicroSD. Sorry but I have zero faith in Cloud Storage, not only for data security but privacy as well. Samsung has also reduced internal storage capacity. 256 GB isn't enough, I have to close double that amount on my MicroSD already and adding more every week. It also saves time when you need to transfer data to a new device.
2) Camera Housing. The S21 camera module is an improvement over the S20 which is awful. It blends into the frame a bit better but it still doesn't lay flat and will snag coming in and out of pant pockets. It also degrades the device's symmetry. Samsung has like many of their competitors have gone overboard with multiple lenses. I'm certain if you had a photo from an S10 and another from an S21 side by side, you wouldn't be able to tell which device created the snaps. That's the trend in mobile phones but if you want really great photos, use a camera not your phone.
3) 3.5mm Jack. Wired audio is the gold standard, Bluetooth doesn't compare and who wants the hassle with charging buds? Yes, I can buy new earphones with a USB connector if I don't want to use a dongle but then I can't charge my device while listening to audio files, which I do often. Plus I really like my earphones, they sound great!
3) Flat Display. I like the look of Immersive Displays. I do a lot of gaming and watch a ton of movies or videos. A curved display doesn't bother me at all.
4) Size. The s21 Plus and Ultra aren't pocket phones. They're huge, closing in on tablet size, just too big! I prefer a device I can easily slip in and out of my front pocket. If I went with an S21 it would fit well but sacrifice a number of features.
5) Screen Resolution. Not sure in most instances if I could tell the difference between 1080 X 2400 and 1440 X 3040 Pixels but why downgrade on an "upgrade"?
6) No Earphones or Charger. Not my biggest issues but then again isn't the S21 Plus supposed to be an "upgrade" over my current device?
samsung offered me a crazy good deal. traded in my note 20 which sucked anyway. gave me a huge trade in credit. only 199 which they jacked to 260 something with bogus shipping fee and tax. free galaxy buds plus. 200 dollar credit towards accessories. it was a crazy good pre order deal. its always the cheapskates who ask questions like this. of course your old phone battery is ****. thats gonna happen. is it worth it? if the phone has better features [except for losing MST] and costs next to nothing in trade hell yes it is. samsung gives me great offers and has since 2 years ago when I traded my S8+ in for an S10+.
I just bought it and upgraded from S8+
Apart from battery I can barely see any notable improvement so I imagine that from the S9 the improvement is even smaller.
I thought my phone was dead so I bought a new one. I then starting playing with the OS and "Odin"ed the **** out of it and now I have 2 almost identical phones.
Still worth for me as my old S8+ is not working properly with the camera and GPS but if the hardware would have been ok, I probably wouldn't have upgraded.
For me: Worth it 100x over. My previous phone was an lg g7 thinq.
That thing took a beating and was quite the loyal device.
However, it was my carrier that ultimately decided I jump ship and upgrade. After their recent merger, I began to roam in my upstairs office. Started to miss calls and texts. Bad bad bad.
So, as I said I jumped ship; to a carrier affiliated with my internet provider *cough*.
I looked over their offerings, and the S21+ jumped out as being the "best bang for the buck".
Never had a Samsung device before, but so far I'm loving it! My wife got one too, and she feels the same.
Got the 256GB variant, and that gave me some relief, as the lg was starting to act funky as I had to move a lot of apps to an sd card so I wouldn't run out of space.
Again, for me, totally worth it. Feels like I went from a buick to a lamborghini!
Am I late to jump on the bandwagon? Anyway, I just received mine a week ago and here are my thoughts why this should be worth or doesn't worth to be upgrade.
I came from Huawei P20 Pro. IMHO if you're holding last year models such as P40 Pro or Galaxy S20, you shouldn't upgrade to this one unless you're offered with a crazy trade-in deal.
So, if your phone is older than last year models? Like S9, S10, Huawei P20 Pro, or iPhoneX etc, the specs worth an upgrade, but the price is still arguable. You shouldn't get this one on MSRP. Only do it if there is some sweet deals. For example, in Brazil, they added a SF charger for free. That's the least deal you should go for. For me, in SG, I've received Galaxy Buds Pro and a Samsung 10k mAh Wireless Charging Power Bank, and a Samsung Clear Case. That deal is a can't miss one.
Storage-wise, on my previous P20 Pro, which is 128 gb, it barely hit to 80 gb after 2 years of photos and video recording. Have a few gb of songs downloaded but nothing else. I didn't install big-ass games. So, for this one, 256 Gb should last long enough for me. In case if the storage run out, I'll simply backup the large files to my PC and carry on. No big issue on the storage.
No audio jack is a bummer. My P20 Pro also doesn't come with a round hole, but at least, they throw a cheap USB to 3.5mm adapter in the box. Samsung even doesn't bother with it. So unless if you get a pair of Buds Pro like me, you should get some Bluetooth headphones, or if you still prefer your wire earphones, get those kind of adapters that you can plug-in your charger and 3.5mm audio jack at the same time.
For display, I didn't buy any of the previous Galaxy phones because of that waterfall edge display. Didn't fancy a curve edge especially because it's very hard to get a good screen protector. This flat screen is perfect for me. The issue comes where I have to decide between FHD 120Hz and UHD 60Hz display. I used to use UHD display on my LG V20, and if someone said the pixels are not noticeable, I'd surely give him a pair of glasses. They're very noticeable, but 120Hz wins over the 60Hz, so, I have to pick-up the FHD again.
For an Asian, I got a pretty big hands, so size of this phone is not a problem, especially it is even slimmer than some other smaller screen phones. But when your screen is 6.7" and FHD, the pixel density goes below 400 dpi (398 dpi to be exact). If you've got an OCD for this, get an S21, because it has got higher dpi than the S21 Plus.
To wrap things up, the deciding factor for me to choose this phone over other contenders such as OnePlus 8T, Mi 11 etc are as follows.
- Not Chinese Brand (currently, we're boycotting as much Chinese brands as possible)
- Excellent camera setup. (Easy win over OP 8T)
- larger battery
- sweet deals (to receive $300 worth of freebies for a $1000 phone is undeniable).
Hi All,
I was wondering what you guys think of the phone now 8 months down the line. I am getting this at a good price around £650 for a good condition used phone on ebay. I was wondering if you guys think most of its problems have been fixed by now.
Just to give you a background, I currently have a note 9 and frankly I am very happy with this phone but it is old now and I am itching to upgrade to something newer, primarily for the cameras and 120hz refresh rate. I did buy the S21 ultra on pre-order but was really disappointed with the camera performance as I found the images my exynos variant produced to be very soft and noisy and not as sharp/clear as my note 9 and overall the phone felt like a big compromise (no s-pen, no sd card, no headphone jack) after paying £1300, so I sent it back. The camera and screen are the primary reasons for me to upgrade and I expect at least decent battery life (maybe 6-7 hours SOT with youtube abd browsing). I do use the S-Pen every now and then and think it would be a good to have. I know the note 20 ultra doesnt support WQHD+ and 120hz at the same time but at the price im getting it at i think this is a compromise i am willing to make since i mostly use my phone at FHD+ anyway and I can barely tell the difference.
I know there was talk about the exynos variant being bad when compared to the SD 865+ version but frankly I am not a gamer and dont need my phone to be ultra powerful. But what i would like to know from you guys is whether the software updates over the past 8 months have fixed most of the issues with battery life and camera performance. Those of you coming from the s10 range or the note 10+ / Note 9 etc. How would you say the camera is on the Note 20 U? Do you guys think its a good buy now? Or should I just give it a miss and hang on to the note 9 till they stop the security patches? Any advise is appreciated.
I have a mate who upgraded from the Note 9 to the Note 20 Ultra. He was VERY impressed with the differences...
He has the Exynos variant but when there is no other phones to compare but what you already have he's happy...
It all comes down to you, go to a store, play with a demo version and make up your mind.
I've upgraded from S10e Exynos with 4,5 screen on time maximum and terrible idle battery drain to Note 20 Ultra Snapdragon. First week was thinking to give it back because it was too big for me and those rounded edges always made me typos. Then I've get used to it, set the keyboard paddings from edges and finally bought nice case (I never used any cases before) and now I'm totally happy with it. I as far as I've read it's almost impossible to get 7-8 screen on time on Exynos variant. I got around 7 on my Snapdragon version but never tested it with gaming so I can not tell yet how good the battery is. I can tell that Qualcomm modem is much better in sense of keeping good connection and speed and very good keeping battery in idle state. Considering the camera - it's much better that in my old S10e ofcourse but I don't use it often so can't say I care about it much. What I love about my new Note 20 ultra Snapdragon is I've rooted it to tweak some small things here and there and now totally feel it's mine. I've rooted my past phones around 5 years ago last time.
Not sure if anything I said will help you but if you have any questions I would be glad to answer.
Thanks guys really useful. As mentioned I don't really need a new phone as my current phone does pretty much what I need it to. But I am itching to upgrade and I don't want to end up being stuck with something that I feel is not as good as my current phone. I currently average 4-5 hours screen on time on my 2 year old note 9 which I think is good for an old phone so hoping to get more. The S21U was good battery wise I got 7 hours SOT with 10% remaining. But the cameras were a let down for the price. I might just wait a couple of months and pick one used if they fix the camera with software updates as the price difference doesn't seem that much like a barely used S21U is going for around 850 on ebay so might be worth the extra 200 vs the note 20 ultra. Especially because I heard a lot of bad things about the n20u battery in particular.
Hi, @eldrid
I upgraded (downgraded considering the cost/storage, lol) from the Note9 (512GB) to the Note20 Ultra (128GB) with Android 11/One UI 3.1.
Have you considered replacing the battery in your Note9? Maybe have the battery replaced and purchase the N20U?
I don't use the camera much, but hopefully one of the forum members will give you some feedback on the N9 vs N20U cameras.
I can hear the Note20 Ultra camera *rattle* but I think this is normal??
If you purchase the N20, you may not want to update the phone to Android 11 (scoped storage, bugs galore, etc...).
I enjoy using the N9 more than the N20U because of the OS and the apps function without issue.
I detest Android 11, ahem, and think it contributes to my attitude of the N20U. N9 is the Beast!
I haven't had note 9 earlier but for me the note 20 ultra is perfect.
We get 1080p with 120hz (sure only 1080p but battery friendly and do you even notice higher res on regular basis?)
Sdcard slot, perfect for pictures, movies, big files and so on, also very easy to swap. (cloud exist but what about vacation or if u got limited data)
Very good cameras, still one of the best out there.
Very good performance with snapdragon 865+, even the exynos one is good. Recent updates have made it better than release version.
S-pen in a slot, no ugly weird case and all functions works perfectly.
The design is also very modern and future proof, I mean the front is almost all display.
People even speculate that this could be the last note ever, so if I were u, I would really consider note 20u if u liked your note 9 and want something better.
I've had my Note 20 Ultra Exynos version since launch, and it's a lot better now than it was when it first came out in both battery life & performance, I also don't game on phone's so it's been more than fine for me.
The camera has also been on point for me as well I've not been disappointed with any pictures or videos I've taken with it.
For 650 quid i think it's well worth it for what you get.
Thanks a ton guys for the honest advice. I finally picked an almost new one for £650 on ebay. They offer a 30 day return so fingers crossed i hope it works out. I won't be selling my note 9 just yet so I will have some time to compare side by side and see what it's like. I am sure it's an upgrade in many regards. But the three key things for me are 1)screen and I'm sure that's great I don't use wqhd and will be perfectly happy with the adaptive 1080 120hz. 2)The cameras... This is one area I am not sure how it will be... This is a very subjective area but I like my images to be sharp and I noticed on the S21U the images were soft and fuzzy not crisp like on the note 9. And 3) is battery life... I still get around 5 hours from the note 9 which is great so I hope to get at least that much. Will keep you guys posted on how it goes over the next few days. I feel like @650 there won't be much to complain about. I was really upset with the s21 ultra as I had paid full price for it and it (£1300) and it felt like a downgrade. Seems like the more modern Samsung phones while powerful are compromising on the basics and are not what they used to be 2 years ago.
Finally got the note20u and frankly I am quite happy with it. I am getting pretty good SOT and plus i used Bluetooth headphones for at least an hour. Considering that I think the battery life is good. Also the camera software seems to be ironed out and the image sharpness is much better than the current image quality on the S21U 1st pic is from note 20u and 2nd from s21u. Overall I think it was a good buy. I would never recommend anyone buying a Samsung phone at launch as the software is very unpolished and you pay a huge amount for an unfinished product. Comparing the experience i have with this nearly new note 20u for 650 is great compared to the ****ty experience the s21u offers for £1200 plus no sd card support or charger in the box. Very good value overall at £650
I upgraded from my still pristine Note 9 and found it a very worthy successor. From the enhanced Dex and S-pen features to the improved cameras, the Note 20 Ultra has provided me with a great user experience. Given Samsung's quest for becoming more -like and shedding features left and right, the Note 20 Ultra is the closest to what the Note line once was: the no holds barred, everything but the kitchen sink, no compromises, Note. I don't know if there is a Note 21 Ultra in the works and if there is it will probably include less features than the Note 20 Ultra offers.
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I upgraded from my still pristine Note 9 and found it a very worthy successor. From the enhanced Dex and S-pen features to the improved cameras, the Note 20 Ultra has provided me with a great user experience. Given Samsung's quest for becoming more -like and shedding features left and right, the Note 20 Ultra is the closest to what the Note line once was: the no holds barred, everything but the kitchen sink, no compromises, Note. I don't know if there is a Note 21 Ultra in the works and if there is it will probably include less features than the Note 20 Ultra offers.
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Absolutely agree. Probably why i was finding it hard to part with my note 9 as well. What a great 0 compromise device. I really hate how Samsung were originally the anti apple and a premium alternative for those that didn't want to chain themselves to apple. But now they're becoming more like apple taking away our choice.
Rumours are that there will be a watered down fan edition only this year and that the s-pen toting phone is going to be the fold from now on. If its true its a poor farewell to the note. I say they should bring back the headphone jack, sd card and pack the box with goodies. Make the whole experience of buying a premium flagship feel premium again.
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Absolutely agree. Probably why i was finding it hard to part with my note 9 as well. What a great 0 compromise device. I really hate how Samsung were originally the anti apple and a premium alternative for those that didn't want to chain themselves to apple. But now they're becoming more like apple taking away our choice.
Rumours are that there will be a watered down fan edition only this year and that the s-pen toting phone is going to be the fold from now on. If its true its a poor farewell to the note. I say they should bring back the headphone jack, sd card and pack the box with goodies. Make the whole experience of buying a premium flagship premium again.
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The 10+ was the last Note before Q. After Q things started going south and 11 is even worse.
Between Android and Samsung's "improvements" it's been a dismal year.
Everything's coming up psuedo Apples... and I mean that in the most derogatory way.
As for the Fold series it has been a self made disaster for Samsung. Overpriced and unreliable.
Samsung, you do know the definition of insanity don't you? Apparently not.
Late to the party here but I'm happy with my N20 Ultra 5G Snapdragon soc I imported from Hong Kong.
I wouldn't of been keen to buy a used phone from ebay due to the amount that get imei locked a few weeks / months after receiving it.
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I wouldn't of been keen to buy a used phone from ebay due to the amount that get imei locked a few weeks / months after receiving it.
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How can you avoid that from happening 100%?
Is it that common?
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How can you avoid that from happening 100%?
Is it that common?
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It's something I've come across way too often throughout the years on forums.
A person sells a phone on ebay and then fraudulently claims it lost or stolen.
Auction Sites need to tighten up and introduce even more protection for the buyer as well as the seller.
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It's something I've come across way too often throughout the years on forums.
A person sells a phone on ebay and then fraudulently claims it lost or stolen.
Auction Sites need to tighten up and introduce even more protection for the buyer as well as the seller.
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Doing that in the USA be incurring multiple federal felonies.
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Late to the party here but I'm happy with my N20 Ultra 5G Snapdragon soc I imported from Hong Kong.
I wouldn't of been keen to buy a used phone from ebay due to the amount that get imei locked a few weeks / months after receiving it.
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Damn didn't know that happens. I got mine from a business seller with 100% ratings so looks like hes been at it for a while with no issues. He claims the phones are customer returns from the official Samsung store and would barely have any usage if at all. And everything looked the part it seemed brand spanking new, scratchless and even no signs wear or dust in the usb c port. Also he had a whole batch of 7-8 to sell so everything sounded legit. Let's hope everything works out well.
On a separate note. I thought id use the phone without a screen protector for a few days while the tempered glass one I ordered arrives and so removed the factory one. After a day or so i have already noticed a couple of micro scratches on the screen visible at certain angles. This is with careful use at home. I feel like this whole gorilla glass thing is just market hype.
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Doing that in the USA be incurring multiple federal felonies.
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I wouldn't worry about it too much. The only reason someone would do that is to be malicious and most people are not. I doubt the seller has a personal vendetta against you. He got his money and will move on.
I have had the N20U since release and have no issues and at this point is a good as it gets functionally.
Not sure if there's any definitive info out yet except for the Hassleblad partnership but anyone showing any interest for this phone. I've become a huge fan since the release of the OnePlus 8 Pro (my favorite phone of all time, lol) so I have high hopes for the next iteration. I'm hoping for better cameras and maybe an sd card slot?
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The cam and its software may be good or a bomb.
However...
No SD card and limited internal storage means I never would touch it. At this point a SD card is mandatory for me.
While 128gb be more than enough storage for me for the OS/apps* it's not even half of my data requirement.
Meh, get up to speed or get out of my way... a pretty cam with no storage isn't a good trade off.
*currently using about 30 of 512gb internal.
341 gb on the SD card data drive.
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The cam and its software may be good or a bomb.
However...
No SD card and limited internal storage means I never would touch it. At this point a SD card is mandatory for me.
While 128gb be more than enough storage for me for the OS/apps* it's not even half of my data requirement.
Meh, get up to speed or get out of my way... a pretty cam with no storage isn't a good trade off.
*currently using about 30 of 512gb internal.
341 gb on the SD card data drive.
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Yep, I know what you mean. It's not mandatory for me but it makes things so convenient. Especially with google photos eliminating unlimited storage. I have a 1 terabyte card with almost half the thing full of my lossless music, videos, and photos.
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Yep, I know what you mean. It's notandatoey for me but it makes things so convenient. Especially with google photos eliminating unlimited storage. I have a 1 terabyte card with almost half the thing full of my lossless music, videos, and photos.
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The dream of a dual drive 1.5 tb computer in your hand has come true. Simply outstanding.
My XPx64 tower uses more power to boot up than takes my 10+ to run for the whole day.
Without a data drive life is much harder, at least if you make full use of the data drive.
Being able to do a full reload with no laptop, anywhere, anytime makes the phone completely self sufficient barring a hardware failure.
I'm interested in this phone.. always liked the oneplus but never got round to buying it as user reviews were mixed for the phone and customer service. I'm saying this as I am looking to upgrade from my much beloved Google Pixel 2. However it seems there are lots of announcement and releases this month...Asus Rog phone 5 today, Oppo Find X3 pro tomorrow Xiaomi Mi 11 next week and OnePlus 9 soon after,was also hoping for the Sony Xperia 1 III to be announced.... decisions decisions decisions!
I'm an 8t owner , and I'm pretty satisfied with my purchase they have been good with updates and yes there have been bugs but mostly all phones on R11 have some bugs , but the updates have fixed most , and let's see what they come with here one the 1+9 and the pro
After the slightly disappointing launch of the Oppo X3 keeping my fingers crossed for the OnePlus launch tomorrow... Or maybe hold out for the Sony Xperia 1 III
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After the slightly disappointing launch of the Oppo X3 keeping my fingers crossed for the OnePlus launch tomorrow... Or maybe hold out for the Sony Xperia 1 III
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Yup let's see what they got for tomorrow
8Pro was a reference flagship, perfect in many microscopic details, so i did preorder cases for both newer models. Despite having another flagship on way, i expect to buy this one too. My hope is I can buy the base model for better WEIGHT, and hoping it won't be crippled in Samsung way (who made e.g. Note20 and any other non-Ultra totally avoidable). The great news is the base model has got wireless charging, and superfast charging and superfast-not-so-crippled compatible charging (45W PD). However last year they made model 8 redundant by having almost no improvements and trashy camera, so it's hard to say.
I'm expecting camera under display in model 10, so i'm buying cases as soon as possible I kind of hope they will run out of innovations and come back to geekness (bring back sd card, notif light) in model 10.
So what do people think....under the hood it is identical to the Oppo Find X3 pro...just cheaper and with free wireless charger and ear buds...this might be the one...
I currently have a OP8T and after watching the launch & the early reviews, I can safely say that I'm going to skip the OP9Pro... The generation jump is not noticeable and the new cameras didn't really live up to the hype. Xiaomi's Mi 11 Pro/Ultra looking more solid with no Hasselblad gimmick whatsoever.
watched the intro, and then review was added to gsmarena and phone was published in our top seller website in an coordinated way. battery rating is funny for 1+, but i believe phone will be holding charge for at least twice the time as Samsung despite. Just look at the huge 3G standby time - industry best. In my use case, that will mean it will make it to 3rd day easily and some more. For the video, they might fix it later, but i do not watch videos all day and do not run background script to prop display frequency either... not real use case. Camera great in wide and night, and not so great for the main sensor. Let's see more reviews. Base model defly with Qi and ultrafast 65T charging, however the weight is still 192g, which is disappointing. That actually makes the "compact" model obsolete if price insensitive. So there are some mild disappointments, and the best thing we can do is to buy it and moan later
I'm considering it. Currently I (still) have OP3 and I think it's time to upgrade. Looking at 256G version (absolutely no need for SD card here). I wouldn't mind, if it was somewhat smaller though...
Any idea how long we will have for root? as this is kinda essential (and I know OP was always kinda very good for modding community)
I just placed an order for the OP9 and it said free z buds but when I checked out, it didn't show on order confirmation.
Thought maybe you had to add them to the cart as well and the discount will be at check out but did that and it wasn't showing either. Talked to customer service and they said free gifts are not available and in stock?
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I just placed an order for the OP9 and it said free z buds but when I checked out, it didn't show on order confirmation.
Thought maybe you had to add them to the cart as well and the discount will be at check out but did that and it wasn't showing either. Talked to customer service and they said free gifts are not available and in stock?
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I just checked their online store and you need to select the free gift in the cart before checkout. On that screen, it shows "out of stock". That is pretty lame!
Have 2 OP9 coming. I am upgrading from 6T and she from 7. I am perpetually disappointed by Google Pixel series and the 5 is the worst. I keep hoping they remember what made Nexus phones great. Oneplus continues to be the closest to what Nexus experience was.
We both did get the OP buds free. And we got 110-140 for our old phones. I got education discount. Not bad deal for me to get the OP9
I may be in minority but I never liked phone camera pics. They always look fake to me because of colors. I always was dissapointed by green of vegetation and how bright red people's skin are. Call Hasselblad color calibration boring but its a huge relief to me pics won't make everthing look plastic.
Do think its weird they added a monochrome sensor when any software can do that just as well. Why they didn't use a telefoto instead on the 9 is baffling. I would bet at least 80% of users will never use it after testing it.
I am disappointed they didn't go with the rear hardware fingerprint like the Nord. I have problems with 6T fingerprint reader. I really hope OP9 will be vastly imoroved.
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I'm considering it. Currently I (still) have OP3 and I think it's time to upgrade. Looking at 256G version (absolutely no need for SD card here). I wouldn't mind, if it was somewhat smaller though...
Any idea how long we will have for root? as this is kinda essential (and I know OP was always kinda very good for modding community)
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Rooting with Magisk now is instant availability. You install the Magisk APK. Extract the boot image. Modify the boot image with Magisk. Use the modified image to flash via adb. Done. You don't need to wait TWRP etc.
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I currently have a OP8T and after watching the launch & the early reviews, I can safely say that I'm going to skip the OP9Pro... The generation jump is not noticeable and the new cameras didn't really live up to the hype. Xiaomi's Mi 11 Pro/Ultra looking more solid with no Hasselblad gimmick whatsoever.
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I don't understand people who upgrade from one series to the next or why anyone would expect it to have enough tech advancements to make it worth it.
Instead considering how late the 8T release was, I would have waited for OP9.
But to each their own, but amazed you are even looking at phones considering my guess you have had the 8T less than 6 months.
But I agree Oneplus should have spent more time on the hardware, and software than with the gimmick collaboration with Hassleblad that didn't really happen.
- Would have been nice is Hassleblad actually had something to do with the hardware, cameras etc.
- Would have been nice if Hassleblad influence was consistent with all cameras including front but seems we will have color shifts among all the cameras. Kinda defeats the whole collab for Hassleblad natural color tech.
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I don't understand people who upgrade from one series to the next or why anyone would expect it to have enough tech advancements to make it worth it.
Instead considering how late the 8T release was, I would have waited for OP9.
But to each their own, but amazed you are even looking at phones considering my guess you have had the 8T less than 6 months.
But I agree Oneplus should have spent more time on the hardware, and software than with the gimmick collaboration with Hassleblad that didn't really happen.
- Would have been nice is Hassleblad actually had something to do with the hardware, cameras etc.
- Would have been nice if Hassleblad influence was consistent with all cameras including front but seems we will have color shifts among all the cameras. Kinda defeats the whole collab for Hassleblad natural color tech.
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But the 2 new lenses are nice , especially the wide with no more distortion on that wide angle lens
Hi All
Two years ago I bought a phone, from a slightly lower end than Samsung - that's what I thought at the time, until I started using the Samsung S22 Ultra 512GB a month ago.
That phone was the Oppo Find X2 Pro 512GB. In two years I never did a hard reset! The phone works perfectly, fast, smooth as butter. However, the power button started to fail, so I started thinking about something higher end, more expensive, twice the price, I thought I would get a phone at least twice as good for that price.
Unfortunately, the Samsung is not better, it is several times slower in daily use. It's possible that in tests, the GPU is faster, but in everyday use the Samsung S22 Ultra next to the Oppo Pro X2 Pro looks like a tortoise (Samsung) next to a rabbit (Oppo).
When using the Samsung, I feel like I'm using a Samsung S7? Even my S9 was faster and ran without stuttering. On the Oppo I have more apps, yet it runs faster even when some of the apps, have cached for two years....
I don't know if Samsung can improve something with updates to make the Exynos 2200 run at least as fast as the Snapdragon 865. If not, I will fix the power button on the Oppo in a month or two and sell the Samsung.
An example of why? Google maps - Oppo any route generates without any delay, Samsung sometimes takes a few seconds or so before the route appears. Aliexpress when I browse product photos added by people, Oppo one swipe appears the next photo, no matter how fast I swipe, photo after photo; Samsung - sometimes I have to swipe 2-3 times before the next photo appears, I am not ready for a complete lack of response when I swipe my finger. Youtube - Oppo no problems, Samsung sound shifted in relation to the picture, by the way on fb videos sound is also out of sync with the picture, I guess phones worth $200 do not have such problems.
Examples could be multiplied. For the first time in two years, I overslept for work because Samsung decided not to turn on the alarm clock and it is completely random. It can't be like that!
I never write posts like this, however the Samsung S22 Ultra is the phone that has let me down the most in the last 20 years, I have never been able to buy, the latest phone, from the "top end" that is much slower than the previous more budget phone that is now two years old.
Samsung - shame... I am very disappointed.
Can someone knowledgeable answer: can they somehow improve this phone by changing the software? Because if not then I'm selling this piece of junk.
Kind regards,
I know what you mean...a phone for over 1300 should be as good as passable... hope Samsung fixes the problems with the exynos... it cant be true
Not sure if it can be completely "fixed".
Android 12 is no gem to start with. GOS fixes are on the way. ADB edits can also be used to tone it down. Not sure if Package Disabler is functional on this model though. It, like it's predecessors definitely needs something like this.
Compared to the Note 10+ the S22U sucks; much poorer form factor, no SD card slot*, that 108mp cam sensor has hype gimmick written all over it. The N10+ gets better SOT with a much smaller battery.
I'm not impressed and rejected the S22U and for that matter the N20U and S21 because of multiple deficiencies and/or issues in spite of a "better" hardware packages. Drop the ball Samsung... and by the way Sammy right handed people hold this huge phone in their left hand.
What were you thinking?
*with no .5-1tb V30 SD card these new phones are a god awful terrors to use and backup. Even when using a SD card as a data drive, backing it up can be a tedious business. Having the redundancy of the 512gb internal memory to make temporarily a backup folder helps prevent backup mishaps in conjunction with the SD card.
That's fresh in my mind because I just did it; you can never have too much SD card memory or "scratch" memory to play with. $hit happens, one corrupted file is all it takes If I had to use the PC to do what I just did it would've taken at least twice as long. No SD card slot, No sale!!!
The N10+ with 1+tb of storage still rocks it...
The issue is there are problems on number of exynos s22 ultras with humber of user complaining about the same things you are mentioning, I to was going to get the Samsung s22 ultra but my oppo find x2 pro also runs fast without no issues and just had the android 12 update on it a few days ago.
Instead I ordered a oppo find x5 pro which at the moment comes with over £350 worth of extras and thought if I don't like it, I can always return it but oppos have a better build quality in my opinon and coupled with a 2 year international warranty as standard and great customer service eg they reply to my Facebook messages, email messages and other social media platforms with any questions I have.
I truely believe the exynos chipset with the amd gpu was not ready for mainstream give it a few more releases before the fix the bugs, also a good indicator is that even south korea (home of samsung) does not use the exynos chipset which is saying something.
It can also do with a bad batch as there are also users who have said they don't have any issues at all, maybe built in two different factories, I think the ones I have seen come from Vietnam here in the UK.
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The issue is there are problems on number of exynos s22 ultras with humber of user complaining about the same things you are mentioning, I to was going to get the Samsung s22 ultra but my oppo find x2 pro also runs fast without no issues and just had the android 12 update on it a few days ago.
Instead I ordered a oppo find x5 pro which at the moment comes with over £350 worth of extras and thought if I don't like it, I can always return it but oppos have a better build quality in my opinon and coupled with a 2 year international warranty as standard and great customer service eg they reply to my Facebook messages, email messages and other social media platforms with any questions I have.
I truely believe the exynos chipset with the amd gpu was not ready for mainstream give it a few more releases before the fix the bugs, also a good indicator is that even south korea (home of samsung) does not use the exynos chipset which is saying something.
It can also do with a bad batch as there are also users who have said they don't have any issues at all, maybe built in two different factories, I think the ones I have seen come from Vietnam here in the UK.
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Samsung is known to substitute smaller chipsets and components as needed during a production run. Sometimes the firmware doesn't properly interface with these changes. Guess what happens?
Until Samsung learns of the issue by customers sending them in to be physically examined, no firmware updates addressing them can be written. This may or may not be the case here.
Most times Samsung's just need to be optimized, no firmware updates needed. Unfortunately many times Samsung phone tech support is pretty useless (I'm being kind).
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Hi All
Two years ago I bought a phone, from a slightly lower end than Samsung - that's what I thought at the time, until I started using the Samsung S22 Ultra 512GB a month ago.
That phone was the Oppo Find X2 Pro 512GB. In two years I never did a hard reset! The phone works perfectly, fast, smooth as butter. However, the power button started to fail, so I started thinking about something higher end, more expensive, twice the price, I thought I would get a phone at least twice as good for that price.
Unfortunately, the Samsung is not better, it is several times slower in daily use. It's possible that in tests, the GPU is faster, but in everyday use the Samsung S22 Ultra next to the Oppo Pro X2 Pro looks like a tortoise (Samsung) next to a rabbit (Oppo).
When using the Samsung, I feel like I'm using a Samsung S7? Even my S9 was faster and ran without stuttering. On the Oppo I have more apps, yet it runs faster even when some of the apps, have cached for two years....
I don't know if Samsung can improve something with updates to make the Exynos 2200 run at least as fast as the Snapdragon 865. If not, I will fix the power button on the Oppo in a month or two and sell the Samsung.
An example of why? Google maps - Oppo any route generates without any delay, Samsung sometimes takes a few seconds or so before the route appears. Aliexpress when I browse product photos added by people, Oppo one swipe appears the next photo, no matter how fast I swipe, photo after photo; Samsung - sometimes I have to swipe 2-3 times before the next photo appears, I am not ready for a complete lack of response when I swipe my finger. Youtube - Oppo no problems, Samsung sound shifted in relation to the picture, by the way on fb videos sound is also out of sync with the picture, I guess phones worth $200 do not have such problems.
Examples could be multiplied. For the first time in two years, I overslept for work because Samsung decided not to turn on the alarm clock and it is completely random. It can't be like that!
I never write posts like this, however the Samsung S22 Ultra is the phone that has let me down the most in the last 20 years, I have never been able to buy, the latest phone, from the "top end" that is much slower than the previous more budget phone that is now two years old.
Samsung - shame... I am very disappointed.
Can someone knowledgeable answer: can they somehow improve this phone by changing the software? Because if not then I'm selling this piece of junk.
Kind regards,
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Are you still in the remorse period? Can't you return the S22?
Is this primarily an issue with the exynos version? How about the snapdragon version?
Day 3 with mine and coming from an S20+ I'm not experiencing any performance, lag, overheating or battery issues.
Did a mild de-bloat with ADP App Control and good to go.
It's sad to hear the exonys is giving so much issues out of the box. Here in South Africa we used to get only the exonys, but for some reason they changed it to the sd. On my sd I don't have any issues as mentioned here or any of the other posts complaining about the exonys. I'm glad that they decided to change it to the sd. There is this other post that "fine tunes" the phone, perhaps try it and see....My carrier only has the entry oppo phones available...I know I can import, but I'm happy with my s22u
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craznazn said:
Are you still in the remorse period? Can't you return the S22?
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Came in here to say this. Sorry bro.
Tbf I really don't understand what you guys are talking about, nobody complained about S22 speeds either Snapdragon or Exynos, it seems like an issue from your side and I would recommend you exchange your phone or see that with Samsung support
jojos38 said:
Tbf I really don't understand what you guys are talking about, nobody complained about S22 speeds either Snapdragon or Exynos, it seems like an issue from your side and I would recommend you exchange your phone or see that with Samsung support
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You are sure? Nobody complained?
S22 Ultra Very Laggy and slow
I got my new S22 Ultra this monday and I have been having quite a lot of problems with it. The battery life is terrible, only around 2-3 hours of lite use. Snapchat is near unusable because it is terribly slow and laggy to use and the viewport...
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BaGRoS said:
You are sure? Nobody complained?
S22 Ultra Very Laggy and slow
I got my new S22 Ultra this monday and I have been having quite a lot of problems with it. The battery life is terrible, only around 2-3 hours of lite use. Snapchat is near unusable because it is terribly slow and laggy to use and the viewport...
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"Nobody" is obviously an exaggeration to point out that very few people complained. Of course some people complained but it's minority
This thread is 34 pages of the same people discussing, I don't know if we can see how many people participated to the thread and among those how many actually participated to complain about this specific issue (speed) but it's probably low
Another user complaining here: almost ready to go back to Xiaomi 12 Pro
After those Updates, the debloating and rooting it seemed to work pretty good on Exynos.
However I also sold it now, because it was too big for the pocket or to make photos comfortable.
Happy I did.. waiting for an Alternative.. like an S22 Ultra Mini now (if something like this will appear soon hopefully)
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..like an S22 Ultra Mini now (if something like this will appear soon hopefully)
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Sounds so tasty, yet it will not exist anytime soon.
I returned mine to Telus before my 30 day window.
S22 SD version on Telus. I don't have it anymore so wjatever model is Canada version.
Camera issues:
- Camera preview looks completely different from shot photos.
- Camera shots look very noisy compared to my Galaxy Note 10's Camera.
- Dark photos when HDR should be enabled. - Note 10 somehow manages to take photos but every photo on the S22 is extremely underexposed and when settings are changed it looks very grainy? Like the heck? Especially if trying to see a sleeping puppy -- a 2 year newer phone can't manage?? Not using digital zoom either.
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GPS completely knackered. I have tracking apps so people can safely check me, but my phone wouldn't register as active even with battery saver off. At all.
-- location jumping on Google Maps. It doesn't seem to know where I'm at. Worse than Note 10. Same goes for Transit App.
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Phone not registering SMS messages, group messages, or chat features.
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And lastly, phone alarms that would show "missed alarm" even though the phone wasn't silenced and alarm volume + vibrate enabled and at a decently loud volume. Since when the hell did an alarm (something phones have had since 2003), ever stop functioning?
Exynos version has some lags especially in apps. But what other device with same or better characteristics should we bye;
I have the Galaxy S21 5G Plus .
Compared with the the S22 or an OPPO, is is slower or faster or same fast?
German Kraut said:
I have the Galaxy S21 5G Plus .
Compared with the the S22 or an OPPO, is is slower or faster or same fast?
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Not the right thread for this (off topic) but I'll bite. If you have the s21, don't even bother.
Upgrading every year is stupid and why manufacturers get away with the crap they do.