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Huawei P9 vs. TMobile LG G5 vs. TMobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge - Some Guy's Review

PURPOSE
So 1st and foremost, the plan here is to give you my experience with these 3 phones. Granted, I have only used the Huawei P9 for about 3 days now and can say I have yet to fully break it in to find everything that may or may not be right / wrong with it. However, this will be a unbiased look and comparison. I'm neither a fanboy or sheep. No brand affiliation. Not a programmer either, just a pro-sumer Senior Member of XDA willing to get trolled, flamed, etc. for sharing a look at these 3 phones. Hopefully, I can give "the everyday guy / gal look" without getting bogged down in stats, variables or benchmarks. Here goes...
MY BACKGROUND
No one special. Just a guy that likes the latest tech... phones being at the top of the list. I am a nerd. No doubt about that. I think anyone that knows about XDA probably is to some extent. No brand loyalty. Recently, I have had the privilege to try out the following phones:
1. Huawei P9
2. LG G5
3. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
4. Huawei Mate 8
5. Huawei Nexus 6P
6. LG Nexus 5X
7. Samsung Note 5
8. Apple iPhone 6s+
And probably some more, but these are the most recent. Does that make me qualified to make a review... Maybe. It does make me an idiot that likes new phones, though. I am always looking for something that meets my needs but also is a good phone. Currently with TMobile but have been with ATT, Verizon & Sprint at some point 20 years of using cell phones.
MY NEEDS
I drive about 40 miles everyday to work (yes, my work week is currently 7 days a week with a few occasional days off). So, with this in mind and where I drive. I need the minimum requirements:
1. Can Stream Music
2. Bluetooth is fully compatible with my 2016 vehicle
3. An equalizer of some sort since I have only switch out my new cars speakers for better ones and don't plan on changing or adding a better sound system.
4. Decent pictures when needed
5. As a nerd, I like to "mesmerize" people with a pay with your phone app like Apple Pay or Android Pay
6. Works with my Huawei Watch
7. Relatively not laggy - will sometimes do some ROM-ing or some customization but since I tend to get rid of the phones quickly I try not to void warranties or make it too non-stock
THE COMPARISON
I am looking at my experience with the Huawei P9, LG G5 and Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge under/around these requirements and some normal stuff like battery, screen, snappiness, heat, speakers, etc. Here goes:
SOUND OVERALL
All 3 phones surprisingly pass my in-car bluetooth test. They flawlessly hook up to my 2016 Honda HR-V. All allow Bass Boost Pro to be installed and used as a system-wide equalizer. I changed the speakers out in my car to Pioneer 4-way Speakers in order to get better sound without drastically altering anything else in the car. The equalizer on the phone helps correct the "tinny" sound (no bass) that would otherwise be produced just from tweaking the stock stereo units equalizer. With the equalizer applied, it does reduce the output volume of the bluetooth from the phone to the unit. With this in mind, the P9 & G5 are still able to produce a loud enough signal for me to still headbang to Slipknot, Mushroomhead, Ghost, Ministry and any other evil-loving band you can think of (Hard Rock Guy... Yep!)... They also let me bounce to the occasional Ice Cube, NWA, 2Pac, Public Enemy and any other REAL Hip-Hop artist that didn't have to rely on auto-tune and catchphrases to spit mad lyrics... enough with my music preferences... back to the review... The S7 also sometimes force closes the Bass Boost Pro app on its own which causes the output to go through the roof and blow out my eardrums and speakers... not cool sammy, not cool. Loud speakers on both the P9 and G5 are super loud and clear... albeit that none of the 3 have stereo speakers... but the S7 has the worst hands down. Samsung I think didn't even try to make them good and I would think its hard when you talk about making a phone water-proof with external speakers. The P9 does annoyingly put a extra overlay at the top of the screen with what is playing when I'm using Google Play Music... I won't however say this is a bad thing as some people may like it and it might just be something I haven't figured out how to turn off. Haven't really used the stock music apps on the phones, and supposedly the LG G5 has DAC. Once again, I can only go off my usage. In a sound to sound comparison, the G5 maybe has a more dynamic range when listening to it vs. the P9 & S7, but this too maybe just my ears. (...which are quite big!!! hahaha)
WINNER: TIE - LG G5 & HUAWEI P9 (Sorry S7 :crying
BATTERY
OK... A lot can be said about batteries on all these phones... but I'm going to break it down as simply I can without turning this into a preference war.
1. LG G5 Battery is definitely smaller and does not last as long as the P9 or S7
2. LG G5 has a removable battery, the others do not.
All have some type of quick charge whether true quick charge or some bastardize version of it, looking at you G5... I say bastardize because most of you have seen articles about how with USB-C & QuickCharge 3.0, that quickcharge basically break compliance to USB-C specs by "forcing" more power than what should go through a USB-C connection. Qualcomm claims this is ok they guess because they say its connector independent... whatevers... Here's the deal. The S7 actually has quickcharge and a compliant connector. The P9 similar if not the same as the Nexus 6p... which it does charge faster than a normal micro-usb phone without quickcharge but definitely not as fast as a quickcharge phone. The P9 Plus reportedly has Huawei's Rapid Charge, which I assume with USB-C would put it into the same boat as the LG G5 as far as compliance to USB-C.
Such a nerd... stop it... they don't care... ta,ta,ta,today Jr.
All things being equal and without compliance getting in the way...
1. P9 has the Longest battery life but slowest charging
2. LG G5 shortest battery life and fastest charging
3. S7 has a decent battery life, compliant fast charging, wireless fast charging
WINNER: S7 by a nose... really it depends on your daily needs and preference here.
HEAT
So, in a previous review of the LG G5 vs. S7, I gave this fight to the S7. The LG G5 does heat up along with the S7. I have already had to exchange out an LG G5 that was faulty that had something to do with overheat + the removable battery system + whatever else... basically it would work, sometimes heat up or heat up when charging, go into a bootloop, need the battery completely removed, disconnected from chin (end cap piece of the G5) and re-inserted to start working again... even with my replacement phone, during its setup, the new phone overheated and had to power cycle in order to continue the setup again (I purposely setup my phones over 4G LTE to tax them a little)... the S7 Edge I had did the same at one point, although I never had to replace it. So, here comes Mr. P9, with its Kirin 955 OctaCore... and says basically, Samsung & LG, you suck... Even with a full metal body and no paint insulation (yep... poking fun at the LG G5) , the P9 dominates by not overheating the device during setup on both Wifi & 4G LTE. I really didn't feel it get hot at all... might just be my experience... I played Clash Royale for an hour too and didn't feel it get hot either... Basically SnapDragon is just that... a Dragon breathing fire onto the outer casing in hopes of burning you to a crisp unless you are the Mother of Dragons... (didn't think I was going to have a review today without making a GoT reference did you?)
WINNER: Hands Down & Not Close... HUAWEI P9
SNAPPINESS
So, First off before I dig deeply into this. Let me just say all 3 phones are fast. Where I draw from is my experience with these phones in my daily usage. Unfortunately, and you can run a thousands benchmarks that will say otherwise, the S7 is laggy because of TouchWiz... that's a fact. From a laggy response to the fingerprint reader to just basic loading of apps... TouchJizz, oops I mean TouchWiz , slows what could be a beast of a phone down to sometimes intolerable levels even when compared to a Apple iPhone 6s. The LG G5 does much better a harnessing the power of the SnapDragon 820. But the question is at what cost? I think some of the heat and crashing issues I see with the LG G5, mind you my 2nd LG G5, maybe due to "unleashing the beast." I did see it stutter while playing Clash Royale, which is surprising since I wouldn't call Clash Royale a "graphics hog..." Now, you can throw whatever AnTuTu-ningOut benchmark and go "higher is better," I'm going to say not in this case. The Kirin 955 in the P9 remains snappy and doesn't seem to do it at the expense of heat or the battery. It hasn't stuttered for me when playing my simple games and the fingerprint reader is super-fast, like light speed. Granted this is my day to day usage, I don't know if you tried to hack the Pentagon while playing Global Thermo Nuclear War in 3D on it if it wouldn't kill the 955 and what is reportedly a inferior GPU. Just sayin' it works for me. Also, I like EMUI... Huawei's interface for Android. I like it almost over extreme customization features... plus for none of the phones do I rely on the stock launcher, opting for the HTC Sense Port that is available here:
http://www.fulmics.com/htc-sense/
And was conceived and hacked by this master here in the xda-forums:
xprit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=5132229
EMUI may not be your cup of tea and not knowing how to do with it (I had a Huawei Mate 8) immediately might turn you off to it. Didn't see any notification issues like the Mate 8 Chinese Version had either, so that's a bonus so far... Lastly, like to point out here that the P9 that I have does not have NFC and it seems only the P9 Plus will. Not a deal breaker here, since I already know that there's no way to have Android Pay on an International or Chinese Market phone... maybe one day, but not at this time (so its not breaking my nerd heart... ) The P9 does take a little experience to setup as well, although you can find a ton of stuff on setting up a Chinese Market phone just by Googling or right here in the XDA forums... basically you need to use Huawei's App Store: HiAPP to download the Play Store then you are off to the races... also you won't be able to use a restore from a previous phone like you normally would either through Google... I actually like that since it makes me rethink what apps I actually need now and eliminate the garbage. The P9 does come with it fair share of Chinese "Here's your pet panda that you just stare at on the screen apps..." and some Huawei Chinese duplicate functionality apps (Messages, Email, etc.). Some of the duplicate apps are useful, most can be uninstalled or disabled. Depending on carriers, you get the same if not more bloat on the S7 & G5 as well... You do get functioning NFC with S7 & G5 with Android Pay
WINNER: HUAWEI P9... HOWEVER, if NFC & ANDROID PAY ARE A "DEALBREAKER" G5 over S7
DISPLAY
Boy, I really hate this section. Honestly, if I said I gave "2 big bags of American BandStand Host/New Year's Rockin' Eve Host" about this section would you get the point??? But people tend to want to know so here goes. All phones unless they are based on 90's tech or are an Apple iPhone (hahahahaha, had to... they are going to fix it with a AMOLED in the iPhone 7 so I will get my pot shot in while I can), has a decent screen that a normal human being that is not a pixel nerd would not even know the differences. Pure stats alone and quality, S7 wins. Looking at functionality for everyday use, the LG G5's always-on display is by far the most functional change a phone manufacturer has made in recent memory. It informs of alerts without having to unlock and open the phone... genius! The S7 tries a half-baked approach to this with their always-on display but it falls short of the way LG deploys it on the G5. The auto brightness for whatever reason works better on the G5 than on the S7 as well. For the P9, there's nothing special. Good Screen, Good auto brightness, no always-on functionality. The P9 does have an extensive color temperature setting change for it, that's really it. No double tap to wake for the P9, not at least any setting I found. The G5 is the only phone that has it built in. It's worth noting that if you wait for the P9 Plus, you get a better screen & force touch, so if you're a screen dork, this might be something to try as a unique feature. The P9 does have some unique gestures for things like screen capture and etc. SO, YOU PICK THIS ONE.....
WINNER: FUNCTIONALITY LG G5... PRETTINESS SAMSUNG S7... COLOR TEMP HUAWEI P9 (I so don't care so it not my call)
PHONE DESIGN
No one can argue that the Samsung S7 Edge is a well-designed phone. Glass back allows for wireless charging which is also a plus in my book as well. :good: The G5 is not the greatest looking phone. NOT UGLY!!! Let's say its handsome... just not beautiful... get the picture. Then the P9 comes out... with a style that can only be described as... if the Xperia Z5 and an iPhone 6s had love child...
A well designed rectangled phone made of metal that is thin and feels good in hand. Now of course all 3 have different colors, some of which, like in the case of the P9, only come in certain colors for certain RAM / Memory configurations. Of course, whether or not they had anything to do with the camera design, the P9 having the LECIA tramp stamp helps it out too and the 2 camera configuration is much easier to swallow then "Day the Earth Stood Still" configuration on the G5. Physical button placement is nice on the P9 and like the G5 it does not have capacitive buttons like the S7 has. The G5 does let you rearrange the configuration of its buttons, the P9 does not (Or at least I haven't found it... probably another P9 Plus Benefit) The Gold color of the P9 is a believable palatable gold color for my 4GB / 64GB version EVA-AL10 as it is the only color available. Unlike the G5, that looks like gold spray paint color... of course the Gold Platinum on a S7 is more baller than either. The P9 also has a "grain" that comes through in the metal that adds to its overall appearance making it look better than its cousin phone the Huawei Mate 8 with it brushed metal exterior. There is a white ceramic version of the P9 as well, so I can't speak to that version but I don't think you can get the 4GB / 64GB combo only in the P9 Plus...
WINNER: TIE... SAMSUNG S7 & HUAWEI P9
CAMERA
As I have pointed out in my other Other Guy's review of the S7 vs. the G5, I do not like talking and "judging" phones cameras because of my "nose-in-the-air" bias I have from being a person that has a both a film & photography degree... I will say it again like I mean it. Physics as of right now, without some major breakthrough, makes it impossible for what inherently needs to be a small camera to take as good as or better pictures than a standard DSLR. Bigger Chips = Greater Surface Area to Absorb Light = Better More Dynamic Pictures... plain and simple. Yes, some flaming troll might disagree but its hard to argue with Science or at least Science to this point. That's not to say, for generally taking snapshots, daily pictures, etc. phone cameras aren't great. In fact, I do think they replace a standard point-and-shoot camera at this point... Now, looking at the 3... each employs it own set of innovations / tricks to make decent photographs. Here's the breakdown:
1. S7 - Best lens F-STOP 1.7 allows most light to hit imaging chip in low light
2. G5 - Dual Lens used to widen field of view producing almost panoramic shots just by zooming out
3. P9 - Using a two lens configuration, one taking a color picture the other taking black and white, images have the best dynamic range (the difference between the lightest light and darkest dark which can be seen in a photo)
So all have their pluses and minuses based on the situation you might use it for. Some may say having a camera that can take better pictures at night is the best and is always the best. I disagree... since its not like its taking fabulous unbelievably great pictures at night... just better snapshots. The P9 & G5 have far superior "Pro Modes" and features that could help you take a great night shot. Not really going to rank camera speed either because unless you had all 3 and were taking pictures at the same time, the same way, would you really notice a fraction of difference, probably not.
WINNER: IT'S A TIE AS I DON'T HAVE A REAL OPINION JUST YET
CONCLUSION
So, what can I conclude? That all 3 phones are awesome... all 3 have plus and minuses. The P9 is an excellent alternative to these 2 more well-known phones. I can say based off what the P9 Plus will have, that it might tip the scale in a few of these categories if you want to wait for the bigger sibling. It looks as though it will be very interesting to through the HTC 10 into this mix as it may just do enough things right to make it the 2016 standout. Of course, it will be added to the mix in a week or so hopefully. As for the P9, it's a solid phone that ultimately might win out because it is the easiest probably to gain root and ROM. Time will tell. I think once the International Variants can be found and are released, this will also help with it usability and popularity. But if your looking for a nice looking phone that no one else has and is unique (unless you live in China then maybe a billion people have it :laugh: ) then its a great pick. No NFC maybe somewhat of a deal breaker although with Android Pay either way, don't really know of a great purpose for NFC. Lastly and as always, this is just Some Guy's Opinion... :good:
As always please comment, thanks again!

I'm interested in getting the P9 so thank you for a great overall review. So refreshing to here a regular person give their opinion on it rather than the "experts" banging on about only the camera.
One request, please can you post a pic of the phone (front and rear) without any cover. Want to get the 4GB/64GB version but where I live they will only release it in Haze Gold. Not a big fan of gold phones. In fact I generally dislike anything shiny or overly blingy. That's the only reason I haven't bought the S7. Not sure I would like the "grain" of the metal compared to annodised or sandblasted metal (or whatever it's called). I think I prefer the Mystic Silver or maybe White but not the ceramic. It's annoying, their choice of colour and material combination have conspired against me :silly:. Will have to see in person.
Many thanks.

szqnl said:
I'm interested in getting the P9 so thank you for a great overall review. So refreshing to here a regular person give their opinion on it rather than the "experts" banging on about only the camera.
One request, please can you post a pic of the phone (front and rear) without any cover. Want to get the 4GB/64GB version but where I live they will only release it in Haze Gold. Not a big fan of gold phones. In fact I generally dislike anything shiny or overly blingy. That's the only reason I haven't bought the S7. Not sure I would like the "grain" of the metal compared to annodised or sandblasted metal (or whatever it's called). I think I prefer the Mystic Silver or maybe White but not the ceramic. It's annoying, their choice of colour and material combination have conspired against me :silly:. Will have to see in person.
Many thanks.
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Will do when I get home today and can post a good pic...

mahst68 said:
PURPOSE
The P9 does take a little experience to setup as well, although you can find a ton of stuff on setting up a Chinese Market phone just by Googling or right here in the XDA forums... basically you need to use Huawei's App Store: HiAPP to download the Play Store then you are off to the races...
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Thanks for the extensive and helpful review. I am glad I made the decision to order the P9. Would you mind posting a link to a good guide on setting up a Chinese version? I have done some searching but many involve rooting and installing different ROMs. I would prefer to keep it stock but with all google services working.

scdoyle said:
Thanks for the extensive and helpful review. I am glad I made the decision to order the P9. Would you mind posting a link to a good guide on setting up a Chinese version? I have done some searching but many involve rooting and installing different ROMs. I would prefer to keep it stock but with all google services working.
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These are both for the Huawei Mate 8 but are the same for the P9 Chinese Version.
Google Play Store:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/help/how-to-install-google-services-google-t3295512
I typically just install the Play Store Only through this method... once it's installed, you should use it to install all other stuff... play services should also update automatically
Calendar Sync:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/help/google-sync-t3277840
Does require a reboot and make sure in security you allow unknown sources to install as it won't let you otherwise
This should be all you need! :good:

mahst68 said:
So all have their pluses and minuses based on the situation you migh No NFC maybe somewhat of a deal breaker although with Android Pay either way, don't really know of a great purpose for NFC. Lastly and as always, this is just Some Guy's Opinion... :good:
As always please comment, thanks again!
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Erm, my P9 has NFC.

stoney73 said:
Erm, my P9 has NFC.
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Is it the 4GB / 64GB version EVA-AL10?
If so, GREAT! Only makes it better... honestly didn't look for it that hard because i could give 2 REALLY REALLY REALLY Big Bags of Sporting Good Stores Starting with the letter D and ending in Ks if I can't use it with Android Pay... just sayin....

mahst68 said:
Is it the 4GB / 64GB version EVA-AL10?
If so, GREAT! Only makes it better... honestly didn't look for it that hard because i could give 2 REALLY REALLY REALLY Big Bags of Sporting Good Stores Starting with the letter D and ending in Ks if I can't use it with Android Pay... just sayin....
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No, I have the 3gb/32gb P9 given at the launch event. But if you didn't look for it, how can you state it doesn't have it? Smh. #just sayin. Ffs

Great review. If you have time, please take a few pics with a least one other camera and the P9.
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szqnl said:
I'm interested in getting the P9 so thank you for a great overall review. So refreshing to here a regular person give their opinion on it rather than the "experts" banging on about only the camera.
One request, please can you post a pic of the phone (front and rear) without any cover. Want to get the 4GB/64GB version but where I live they will only release it in Haze Gold. Not a big fan of gold phones. In fact I generally dislike anything shiny or overly blingy. That's the only reason I haven't bought the S7. Not sure I would like the "grain" of the metal compared to annodised or sandblasted metal (or whatever it's called). I think I prefer the Mystic Silver or maybe White but not the ceramic. It's annoying, their choice of colour and material combination have conspired against me :silly:. Will have to see in person.
Many thanks.
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Here you go hope this helps

stoney73 said:
No, I have the 3gb/32gb P9 given at the launch event. But if you didn't look for it, how can you state it doesn't have it? Smh. #just sayin. Ffs
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Umm did bra and not only that check the website specs bra. Stop flamin' bra. Just tryin to have a conversation bra. And btw still don't care either way if it had a switch for a monkey that comes out of the phone to pay people money bra. Btw how much have you used the NFC high fiving your other troll friends bra

mahst68 said:
Here you go hope this helps
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Front

dondavis007 said:
Great review. If you have time, please take a few pics with a least one other camera and the P9.
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Here's an iPhone 6 pic.

mahst68 said:
Umm did bra and not only that check the website specs bra. Stop flamin' bra. Just tryin to have a conversation bra. And btw still don't care either way if it had a switch for a monkey that comes out of the phone to pay people money bra. Btw how much have you used the NFC high fiving your other troll friends bra
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SMH.

dondavis007 said:
Great review. If you have time, please take a few pics with a least one other camera and the P9.
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Same pic (mostly) with P9

stoney73 said:
And that's exactly why you have zero credibility, bra. Not flaming, only correcting. Not my fault you can't read the specifications, and then claim things that aren't correct, and mislead people who come to the xda for facts, not half-assed theories.bra.
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Did read and know what I'm talking about. Like done answering trolls named stoney73. Keep your low level P9. Like I posted before in 2 other posts in the P9 forum, the Chinese 64GB/4GB EVA-AL10 is the same as the EVA-L29 International version
Use this for reference
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66507043&postcount=9
And the attachment from Huawei site

mahst68 said:
Did read and know what I'm talking about. Like done answering trolls named stoney73. Keep your low level P9. Like I posted before in 2 other posts in the P9 forum, the Chinese 64GB/4GB EVA-AL10 is the same as the EVA-L29 International version
Use this for reference
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66507043&postcount=9
And the attachment from Huawei site
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That's great, mayhap you should mention it in the OP. Shame about your attitude bra.

mahst68 said:
Same pic (mostly) with P9
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Great contrast!
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stoney73 said:
That's great, mayhap you should mention it in the OP. Shame about your attitude bra.
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The review is an opinion and great input for us that don't have the phone. Let's move on please.
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definitely good contrast... i have to take some pictures but I think this camera might be pretty decent... i know one of the android sites is conducting a quadruple blind picture test to determine the "best" smartphone camera right now... we'll just have to see how the P9 fairs...
http://www.androidauthority.com/flagship-camera-shootout-688406/

I think I know the P9 in the test. Gave to wait until the weekend to see if I'm right
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Reasons not to buy an Honor 8?

I'm about to pack in my old, beloved M8, which has told me in no uncertain terms that its life is drawing to a close. I've spent way too much time researching, and arrived at the conclusion that the Honor 8 is my best fit. It's not as small as I wanted to be (I love everything about the Xperia Z5 Compact except that it cracks if you look at it funny and heats up enough to start a campfire), but the specs are there and the price is right.
The only real concerns I have left are the reports that it doesn't like to connect to LTE at times, even when there's a strong signal, and EMUI's taking away my app drawer. Are those real concerns, or just overblown? Is there anything I'm missing in terms of a reason to love or be wary of the Honor 8?
Thanks in advance. I'm seeing lots of reviews loving it, and Ars burying it because it's not a OnePlus 3, so that's reassuring.

T.J. Bender said:
I'm about to pack in my old, beloved M8, which has told me in no uncertain terms that its life is drawing to a close. I've spent way too much time researching, and arrived at the conclusion that the Honor 8 is my best fit. It's not as small as I wanted to be (I love everything about the Xperia Z5 Compact except that it cracks if you look at it funny and heats up enough to start a campfire), but the specs are there and the price is right.
The only real concerns I have left are the reports that it doesn't like to connect to LTE at times, even when there's a strong signal, and EMUI's taking away my app drawer. Are those real concerns, or just overblown? Is there anything I'm missing in terms of a reason to love or be wary of the Honor 8?
Thanks in advance. I'm seeing lots of reviews loving it, and Ars burying it because it's not a OnePlus 3, so that's reassuring.
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Haven't had any issues with lte on tmobile.
Just install a custom launcher. I put pixel launcher and works fine.
My only concern is updates and dev support

tlxxxsracer said:
Haven't had any issues with lte on tmobile.
Just install a custom launcher. I put pixel launcher and works fine.
My only concern is updates and dev support
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Does Pixel Launcher let you have an app drawer again?

Yes.

tlxxxsracer said:
Yes.
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Pretty damn sure I'm buying it then.

Hi, i think the phone is quite perfect, except for the chassis...is very easy to scratch it , and after just 7 days showed signs of wear on the rear

I'm too considering H8 but if true,this user review from gsmarena has a point(or two):
Since I had both(gave Honor 8 to my sister),if look at it straight objective...it's a no contest win for Mi5.
While the build quality is same,both are fingerprint magnets in specific colors,and looks is a highly subjective point,i can name few things Mi5 has the edge:
CPU + GPU is highly(and I mean HIGHLY) superior in Mi5 if u play games.
Screen in Mi5 is superior in everything to Honor 8 even in blacks.
Screen has Gorilla Glass4,Honor's...if it has any,manufacturers of it needs to be sued. Scratches like anything I've seen in my life from both front and rear. No keyes,no lighters,no change in pocket. It just does.
Sound is superior in Mi5 and I'm talking headphones here.
Dev support is slam dunk win for Mi5. Cyanogen mod official is coming now that kernel is released and community is more alive. XDA has signed agreement with Huaweii regarding dev of roms for H8 but devs are unwilling to work in unknown enviroment(Kirin) for now. So you're stuck with EMUI or what it's called. MIUI in Mi5 is no paradise either but at least u have options and they will be only bigger in near future.
Honor has better cam if you're a photo freak. To me,to my FB,twitter and instagram,they're the same in terms of performing.
So considering recent pricing that puts Mi5 3/64 version around 300-320$(delivery in EU,and pricing likely to go down as Mi5s announced for next week) I objectively cant see any reason to go for Honor 8.
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And it seems to me,looking that other thread with complaints bout scratches + some reviews that have mentioned it,that phone is built with cheap materials and that is,personally a deal breaker for me.

troublecro said:
I'm too considering H8 but if true,this user review from gsmarena has a point(or two):
And it seems to me,looking that other thread with complaints bout scratches + some reviews that have mentioned it,that phone is built with cheap materials and that is,personally a deal breaker for me.
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Sand also scratches Gorilla Glas 4/5, to me personaly the device doesn`t look or feel cheap and both performance and batterylife is great. What more can you ask?

People don't carry sand in their pockets dude. It's like counter argumenting that crocodiles kill humans too when someone says that motor bikes are dangerous.
And i'm having my Xperia Z3C 2 years now,carried it in Thor Steinar bag with Zippo lighter,coins and keys(I miss sand tho) for 99% time,no tempered glass no case. Not a scratch on the screen.
Excuse me If i look for a replacement with same quility of screen(and overall) protection. I don't fancy buying a good looking phone just to armor it up like I'm heading to a warzone.

What about things like battery time, has it got a removable battery so it's not a brick or DIY project after a few years, will it get Android 7, 8 and so on. That far outweighs things like having Crapple A10 speed or 4K screen res. for me, hands down. Paying $1000 and you don't even get a notification LED on some devices, geez.

For the LTE connection I didnt find any problem as I already used for 2 months already.

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Haven't had any issues with lte on tmobile.
Just install a custom launcher. I put pixel launcher and works fine.
My only concern is updates and dev support
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Honor US, India and UK models provides updates for minimum 2 years from the date of release. i.e you will get update till Android O for sure.
Remember that Honor 4X which released in Kitkat is now running on Marshmallow. So you will get for sure.
Regarding Dev support, Since Honor has joined hands with XDA, it will be improved hopefully.

iMaterial said:
What about things like battery time, has it got a removable battery so it's not a brick or DIY project after a few years, will it get Android 7, 8 and so on. That far outweighs things like having Crapple A10 speed or 4K screen res. for me, hands down. Paying $1000 and you don't even get a notification LED on some devices, geez.
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SOT is amazing, people are reporting 7h in average

the only downfall is the less durable screen on the back which is prominent to scratches.

I wish the back glass was as strong as the front

GPS bug and light sensor still not fixed
Current version (after last soft release) still has a very crappy light sensor and a huge GPS bug.
whenever you're indoor, GPS is reset to position 0;0, thus teleporting you in the Atlantic Ocean... and ruining every Driving app that was running at the moment.
Currently triggers in every long tunnel, 100% when indoor , randomly if your car windows are blocking GPS signals ....
I bought one , considering all the reviews (sponsored or not), but i had to sent it back.
Now back with my Z3C.

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Current version (after last soft release) still has a very crappy light sensor and a huge GPS bug.
whenever you're indoor, GPS is reset to position 0;0, thus teleporting you in the Atlantic Ocean... and ruining every Driving app that was running at the moment.
Currently triggers in every long tunnel, 100% when indoor , randomly if your car windows are blocking GPS signals ....
I bought one , considering all the reviews (sponsored or not), but i had to sent it back.
Now back with my Z3C.
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thats very disaapointing considering all the positive reviews

GrrXDA said:
Current version (after last soft release) still has a very crappy light sensor and a huge GPS bug.
whenever you're indoor, GPS is reset to position 0;0, thus teleporting you in the Atlantic Ocean... and ruining every Driving app that was running at the moment.
Currently triggers in every long tunnel, 100% when indoor , randomly if your car windows are blocking GPS signals ....
I bought one , considering all the reviews (sponsored or not), but i had to sent it back.
Now back with my Z3C.
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I dare not say it but GPS is dead on for me on Google Maps, even indoors. Auto backlighting in low light conditions is too low, have my H8 set on manual brightness in the evening. GPS faillure might very well be a hardware faillure.
See attached pic, indoors.

GrrXDA said:
Current version (after last soft release) still has a very crappy light sensor and a huge GPS bug.
whenever you're indoor, GPS is reset to position 0;0, thus teleporting you in the Atlantic Ocean... and ruining every Driving app that was running at the moment.
Currently triggers in every long tunnel, 100% when indoor , randomly if your car windows are blocking GPS signals ....
I bought one , considering all the reviews (sponsored or not), but i had to sent it back.
Now back with my Z3C.
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You received the update, right?!

PalakMi said:
You received the update, right?!
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its more likely to be a hardware problem.

[Help] considering buying this phone please share your experience

hi my note 5's screen got broke so I need a new smartphone
with my price tag the only solid options are the hTC 10 and the Huawei Mate 9
I found some reviews bashing the headphone jack performance of the mate 9 so for comparison with the galaxy s7 for example or the note 5 for those who owned both of the devices how is it.
also the gaming performance how is it ?for example how much fps you get with Riptide Renegade on high settings
and also I would like to know if there is a flaw or a problem you encountered with this phone.
sorry for being long and I would really appreciate your help.
thanks in advance

AlMaghraby said:
hi my note 5's screen got broke so I need a new smartphone
with my price tag the only solid options are the hTC 10 and the Huawei Mate 9
I found some reviews bashing the headphone jack performance of the mate 9 so for comparison with the galaxy s7 for example or the note 5 for those who owned both of the devices how is it.
also the gaming performance how is it ?for example how much fps you get with Riptide Renegade on high settings
and also I would like to know if there is a flaw or a problem you encountered with this phone.
sorry for being long and I would really appreciate your help.
thanks in advance
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Personally i have no complaints. There are minor ticks here and there but thats as expected. HEadphone jack is fine on my unit. BT is really nice. Battery is great. i avg 9-10 hours SOT per charge and thats over 2 days for me. ( 1d 18hr )
Ive tweaked a few things. i do not get push notifications unless it is from a text.
I also do not use FB apps. Instagram or SC. ( use Metal for FB and website for instagram )
ONLY use the chaarger included with it. or the one huawei makes for car charging.
Reception is great. Small things here n there on Tmo but it works well.
Camera is Excellent. i was 15ft away from a car at a show and in the photo you can read the tire sidewall!
CONS:
Limited cases and Glass coveres
Limited charger options
Trickle charge issue. ( old HTC things. unplug for a few minutes then plug back in for about 5-10 more. gives a true full charge )
I have a 128gb SD in and i love having 183gb to store anything on.
DO NOT use the internal batteyr estimator. Not accurate ( USE GSAM )
Compared to my Note 5 this is THE BEST phone i have ever used. Im going to sell my Note 5, eave sprint and stick just to Tmobile. or ATT idk yet.

Can't argue with this.

On Amazon (in Germany) you can find now plenty of cases for Mate 9. I can recommend the Spigen rugged case that I purchased lately and it is really good. Glass protection is indeed a big problem: most of the items that claim they are for the Mate 9 are to narrow and the few ones that are having the right size are of a very bad quality.
The phone itself is great, better than everything I had so far (my last phone was an LG G4). The screen is "only" full HD, but to be frank, I do not see the need to have a higher resolution on a phone (it still can make 4K videos if this is what you need). Video recording quality is really great: the most beautiful colors I have seen on a phone video recording so far. Wide aperture photos are a hit among my family and friends (I am the only one now in charge to take photos in my family when we go out ). ANTUTU benchmark almost 120k - faster than my colleague's Galaxy S7 - so, whatever you want to do with it, it will do it great.
The only thing that I miss sometimes is the support for MHL (but it has other mirroring options). And I would have liked to have the option to hide the Android navigation keys in all applications but the screen is anyhow huge so, this is not a big issue either since the keys are anyhow hidden when you play videos or I read a book.

so what about notifications problems that is all over internet? is that solved already?
at least europe versions.. I want all my notification instantly like on other phones, no matter is that whatsapp or something else..
And is it true that notification are gone from lockscreen after unlocking phone or just putting screen on to see what is it?
i'm also considering to get this model

digitall1982 said:
so what about notifications problems that is all over internet? is that solved already?
at least europe versions.. I want all my notification instantly like on other phones, no matter is that whatsapp or something else..
And is it true that notification are gone from lockscreen after unlocking phone or just putting screen on to see what is it?
i'm also considering to get this model
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Notification problem happens with the Chinese version, as far as I know, i have the EU version and i get all the notifications.
Honestly, even now, this is the BEST phone there is, the first phone i don't need root as there are workaround for everything, performance, and battery and top notch, camera is great but slightly disappointing in low light, screen is big apparently now "old school" and very sharp and bright, stereo speakers are great, the DAC is average at best but still decent.

Fantastic phone, camera, battery life, screen, sound of speakers, build! Not so awesome is the update history of Huawei. Updates come late and limited.
The only real drawback is the lack of developers. I had hoped for LineageOS, but I think that boat is torpedoed and sunk.
Still GREAT value!

Battery is stellar. I've been in bed all day sick, with my phone by my side. Almost at 10 hours screen on time at 13% battery left. Bluetooth has been used, connected on WiFi.
It's the best phone I've EVER had. Well, S3 note 4 and G2 are up there.
The HD screen is fine. I had the G4 S7 previously. Don't miss the screens.
The video recording format is irritating in that 2k won't upload to YouTube. It's too modern.
Definitely give the phone a go. I bought the Chinese 6gig 128gig version converted to international ROM. Have contemplated selling but just can't let it go! Even my mate with his S8 loves it. Oh, and it's not got a curved screen, another plus for me!

Didn't want to buy a phone with non removable battery.
Pretty much a non issue with this phone as it's hot such a great battery and a sensible screen resolution so doesn't drain fast.
The camera bokeh effect is simply the best on the market by a mile. Low light is mediocre though.
Massive screen. Great speed. Phenomenal finger print sensor.
I hated the soft keys but you learn to hate them less.
Overall delighted with this thing.
Doesn't slow down. If anything it goes faster with time which is odd but just what they seek to claim!

what about 4k video and auto upload to google photos? is that solved or it must be converted into h264?

This is the best phone I've ever had. Coming from an s7 and wife has s8 plus and still use a note 5 for our home phone. It's without question my favorite! Screen still looks fantastic for 1080. The battery is off the chain. I could easily go 2 days and have, just generally charge it before I go to bed and is always above 50%. Fast!!!! Smooth!!! I don't know how they do it, but next to Apple this is the must fluid phone out there. Heck, I'd say it's smoother than my friends 7S. Only paid 400 for it and it's dual sim to boot.
Honestly can't say enough about it. Only get rid of it if mate 10 is better somehow. I am intrigued by less bezels.
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It's the best phone AFTER the B186 and up update, before that battery life was ****. I am on the 190 now with the phone updating to 193. It is the best phone in terms of battery life, performance and hardware/software. Too bad the update method is ****... like a HUGE TURD that third parties have to fill the gaps on this. Oh it's also **** that some of the huawei apps are in chinese (like the store) or whatever... It sucks BIG TIME.

I'm not a fan myself.
The Huawei android skin is yet another confusing and pointless skin that just causes issues and degrades Android. Go for a Google phone and have Android in it's true glory rather than in a compromised and inferior veneer.
Oh yes and it looks like I can 'kiss goodbye" to any updates from Huawei, with the Mate 10 phone now round the corner.
My last Android security patch was for April.

Should i buy a similar Samsung S8

Hey everyone!
I am currently using Xiaomi mi4, but i found that it runs slower and slower, i asked some people on forums, they also have the same problem, so i am considering purchasing a new mobile phone that can accompany me for at least 2 years.
Last weekend, i went to Samsung Shop, the Samsung S8 attracts me in a sudden, yet when i close to see its price, oh god, it is near to sky, i know i have to give up the idea of buying it, then i walked out with sad
on the way of backing home, i search S8 pictures from google, i amazingly found another similar Samsung S8 mobile phone, the brand name seems like MEIIGOO S8, it doesn't matter, the important thing is its price is just near €180, how it could be so cheap. it is even with 4G RAM 64G ROM, MTK6750T, 1.5GHz, Octa Core6.1 Pollici Dual Camera , Android 7.1 system.
I already considered two days to buy it, i want to ask you guys is it worth of buying it?
Thanks guys!

myefox.it said:
Hey everyone!
I am currently using Xiaomi mi4, but i found that it runs slower and slower, i asked some people on forums, they also have the same problem, so i am considering purchasing a new mobile phone that can accompany me for at least 2 years.
Last weekend, i went to Samsung Shop, the Samsung S8 attracts me in a sudden, yet when i close to see its price, oh god, it is near to sky, i know i have to give up the idea of buying it, then i walked out with sad
on the way of backing home, i search S8 pictures from google, i amazingly found another similar Samsung S8 mobile phone, the brand name seems like MEIIGOO S8, it doesn't matter, the important thing is its price is just near €180, how it could be so cheap. it is even with 4G RAM 64G ROM, MTK6750T, 1.5GHz, Octa Core6.1 Pollici Dual Camera , Android 7.1 system.
I already considered two days to buy it, i want to ask you guys is it worth of buying it?
Thanks guys!
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Most people here wouldn't know of this phone, i ordered it and received it yesterday.
I am testing it out now, so far i can say the screen is beautiful and huge, yet because of the 18:9 and very thin bezels it is pretty small and is a pleasure to hold in the hand. i'll be testing more and if you are still interested let me know here and i'll post my findings.

krouri said:
Most people here wouldn't know of this phone, i ordered it and received it yesterday.
I am testing it out now, so far i can say the screen is beautiful and huge, yet because of the 18:9 and very thin bezels it is pretty small and is a pleasure to hold in the hand. i'll be testing more and if you are still interested let me know here and i'll post my findings.
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yes, thank you, welcome to share more of your experience

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yes, thank you, welcome to share more of your experience
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So the phone is snappy screen is great, viewing angles are very good as well. More info. to come.

Ok so the phone is unfortunately not good at all! Apps randomly close, Bluetooth connection works with my car, and then i go out and back in and the phone keeps on saying connecting, yet it never does. The only way to make it work is restart the phone. WiFi says it's connected and it actually works...till it doesn't! I look and see for example that my Whatsapp messages haven't been sent, so i take off the WiFi and as soon as the phone gets the cellular data i get notifications galore. The phone's battery is very bad, 5-7 hours on time with 1.5-2 hrs. SOT. My banking app which can be unlocked with a Fingerprint scanner says my device isn't compatible with the feature. Speaking of the fingerprint scanner it is slow! And i'd say works approx. 60% of the time at best. I bought a blue one and the paint they use is a joke, as the phone's paint came off on the side and i only used this phone for 3 days!!! No falls or drops.
On the good side the 6.1" Sharp 2160*1080 screen is vibrant huge and gorgeous, the phone is pretty snappy for everyday use, the design is beautiful and it does have very narrow bezels all over, another nice touch is the rounded corners on top and bottom of screen. I am very saddened by the fact this phone turned out to be unuseful, as i had high hopes as their only previous model the M1 got some great reviews.

krouri said:
Ok so the phone is unfortunately not good at all! Apps randomly close, Bluetooth connection works with my car, and then i go out and back in and the phone keeps on saying connecting, yet it never does. The only way to make it work is restart the phone. WiFi says it's connected and it actually works...till it doesn't! I look and see for example that my Whatsapp messages haven't been sent, so i take off the WiFi and as soon as the phone gets the cellular data i get notifications galore. The phone's battery is very bad, 5-7 hours on time with 1.5-2 hrs. SOT. My banking app which can be unlocked with a Fingerprint scanner says my device isn't compatible with the feature. Speaking of the fingerprint scanner it is slow! And i'd say works approx. 60% of the time at best. I bought a blue one and the paint they use is a joke, as the phone's paint came off on the side and i only used this phone for 3 days!!! No falls or drops.
On the good side the 6.1" Sharp 2160*1080 screen is vibrant huge and gorgeous, the phone is pretty snappy for everyday use, the design is beautiful and it does have very narrow bezels all over, another nice touch is the rounded corners on top and bottom of screen. I am very saddened by the fact this phone turned out to be unuseful, as i had high hopes as their only previous model the M1 got some great reviews.
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That is the standard story for knock off devices. Remember that with cell phones like anything else, you get what you pay for. A good cellphone isn't cheap and a cheap cell phone isn't good.

zelendel said:
Remember that with cell phones like anything else, you get what you pay for. A good cellphone isn't cheap and a cheap cell phone isn't good.
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I will mostly agree with you, but i have a Xiaomi Redmi note 4, a Xiaomi mi A1 and had the Honor 6X and I can't fault any of them even though they were "cheap" in comparison.

Question Who's getting one?

Not sure if there's any definitive info out yet except for the Hassleblad partnership but anyone showing any interest for this phone. I've become a huge fan since the release of the OnePlus 8 Pro (my favorite phone of all time, lol) so I have high hopes for the next iteration. I'm hoping for better cameras and maybe an sd card slot?

Looking good!
OnePlus 9, OnePlus 9 Pro, and OnePlus 9R buyer's guide: What you need to know
This definitive OnePlus 9 series buyer's guide contains all the info you need, including specs, price details, release dates, and more.
www.androidauthority.com

The cam and its software may be good or a bomb.
However...
No SD card and limited internal storage means I never would touch it. At this point a SD card is mandatory for me.
While 128gb be more than enough storage for me for the OS/apps* it's not even half of my data requirement.
Meh, get up to speed or get out of my way... a pretty cam with no storage isn't a good trade off.
*currently using about 30 of 512gb internal.
341 gb on the SD card data drive.

blackhawk said:
The cam and its software may be good or a bomb.
However...
No SD card and limited internal storage means I never would touch it. At this point a SD card is mandatory for me.
While 128gb be more than enough storage for me for the OS/apps* it's not even half of my data requirement.
Meh, get up to speed or get out of my way... a pretty cam with no storage isn't a good trade off.
*currently using about 30 of 512gb internal.
341 gb on the SD card data drive.
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Yep, I know what you mean. It's not mandatory for me but it makes things so convenient. Especially with google photos eliminating unlimited storage. I have a 1 terabyte card with almost half the thing full of my lossless music, videos, and photos.

chetly968 said:
Yep, I know what you mean. It's notandatoey for me but it makes things so convenient. Especially with google photos eliminating unlimited storage. I have a 1 terabyte card with almost half the thing full of my lossless music, videos, and photos.
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The dream of a dual drive 1.5 tb computer in your hand has come true. Simply outstanding.
My XPx64 tower uses more power to boot up than takes my 10+ to run for the whole day.
Without a data drive life is much harder, at least if you make full use of the data drive.
Being able to do a full reload with no laptop, anywhere, anytime makes the phone completely self sufficient barring a hardware failure.

I'm interested in this phone.. always liked the oneplus but never got round to buying it as user reviews were mixed for the phone and customer service. I'm saying this as I am looking to upgrade from my much beloved Google Pixel 2. However it seems there are lots of announcement and releases this month...Asus Rog phone 5 today, Oppo Find X3 pro tomorrow Xiaomi Mi 11 next week and OnePlus 9 soon after,was also hoping for the Sony Xperia 1 III to be announced.... decisions decisions decisions!

I'm an 8t owner , and I'm pretty satisfied with my purchase they have been good with updates and yes there have been bugs but mostly all phones on R11 have some bugs , but the updates have fixed most , and let's see what they come with here one the 1+9 and the pro

After the slightly disappointing launch of the Oppo X3 keeping my fingers crossed for the OnePlus launch tomorrow... Or maybe hold out for the Sony Xperia 1 III

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After the slightly disappointing launch of the Oppo X3 keeping my fingers crossed for the OnePlus launch tomorrow... Or maybe hold out for the Sony Xperia 1 III
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Yup let's see what they got for tomorrow

8Pro was a reference flagship, perfect in many microscopic details, so i did preorder cases for both newer models. Despite having another flagship on way, i expect to buy this one too. My hope is I can buy the base model for better WEIGHT, and hoping it won't be crippled in Samsung way (who made e.g. Note20 and any other non-Ultra totally avoidable). The great news is the base model has got wireless charging, and superfast charging and superfast-not-so-crippled compatible charging (45W PD). However last year they made model 8 redundant by having almost no improvements and trashy camera, so it's hard to say.
I'm expecting camera under display in model 10, so i'm buying cases as soon as possible I kind of hope they will run out of innovations and come back to geekness (bring back sd card, notif light) in model 10.

So what do people think....under the hood it is identical to the Oppo Find X3 pro...just cheaper and with free wireless charger and ear buds...this might be the one...

I currently have a OP8T and after watching the launch & the early reviews, I can safely say that I'm going to skip the OP9Pro... The generation jump is not noticeable and the new cameras didn't really live up to the hype. Xiaomi's Mi 11 Pro/Ultra looking more solid with no Hasselblad gimmick whatsoever.

watched the intro, and then review was added to gsmarena and phone was published in our top seller website in an coordinated way. battery rating is funny for 1+, but i believe phone will be holding charge for at least twice the time as Samsung despite. Just look at the huge 3G standby time - industry best. In my use case, that will mean it will make it to 3rd day easily and some more. For the video, they might fix it later, but i do not watch videos all day and do not run background script to prop display frequency either... not real use case. Camera great in wide and night, and not so great for the main sensor. Let's see more reviews. Base model defly with Qi and ultrafast 65T charging, however the weight is still 192g, which is disappointing. That actually makes the "compact" model obsolete if price insensitive. So there are some mild disappointments, and the best thing we can do is to buy it and moan later

I'm considering it. Currently I (still) have OP3 and I think it's time to upgrade. Looking at 256G version (absolutely no need for SD card here). I wouldn't mind, if it was somewhat smaller though...
Any idea how long we will have for root? as this is kinda essential (and I know OP was always kinda very good for modding community)

I just placed an order for the OP9 and it said free z buds but when I checked out, it didn't show on order confirmation.
Thought maybe you had to add them to the cart as well and the discount will be at check out but did that and it wasn't showing either. Talked to customer service and they said free gifts are not available and in stock?

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I just placed an order for the OP9 and it said free z buds but when I checked out, it didn't show on order confirmation.
Thought maybe you had to add them to the cart as well and the discount will be at check out but did that and it wasn't showing either. Talked to customer service and they said free gifts are not available and in stock?
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I just checked their online store and you need to select the free gift in the cart before checkout. On that screen, it shows "out of stock". That is pretty lame!

Have 2 OP9 coming. I am upgrading from 6T and she from 7. I am perpetually disappointed by Google Pixel series and the 5 is the worst. I keep hoping they remember what made Nexus phones great. Oneplus continues to be the closest to what Nexus experience was.
We both did get the OP buds free. And we got 110-140 for our old phones. I got education discount. Not bad deal for me to get the OP9
I may be in minority but I never liked phone camera pics. They always look fake to me because of colors. I always was dissapointed by green of vegetation and how bright red people's skin are. Call Hasselblad color calibration boring but its a huge relief to me pics won't make everthing look plastic.
Do think its weird they added a monochrome sensor when any software can do that just as well. Why they didn't use a telefoto instead on the 9 is baffling. I would bet at least 80% of users will never use it after testing it.
I am disappointed they didn't go with the rear hardware fingerprint like the Nord. I have problems with 6T fingerprint reader. I really hope OP9 will be vastly imoroved.

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I'm considering it. Currently I (still) have OP3 and I think it's time to upgrade. Looking at 256G version (absolutely no need for SD card here). I wouldn't mind, if it was somewhat smaller though...
Any idea how long we will have for root? as this is kinda essential (and I know OP was always kinda very good for modding community)
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Rooting with Magisk now is instant availability. You install the Magisk APK. Extract the boot image. Modify the boot image with Magisk. Use the modified image to flash via adb. Done. You don't need to wait TWRP etc.

bluishdaven said:
I currently have a OP8T and after watching the launch & the early reviews, I can safely say that I'm going to skip the OP9Pro... The generation jump is not noticeable and the new cameras didn't really live up to the hype. Xiaomi's Mi 11 Pro/Ultra looking more solid with no Hasselblad gimmick whatsoever.
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I don't understand people who upgrade from one series to the next or why anyone would expect it to have enough tech advancements to make it worth it.
Instead considering how late the 8T release was, I would have waited for OP9.
But to each their own, but amazed you are even looking at phones considering my guess you have had the 8T less than 6 months.
But I agree Oneplus should have spent more time on the hardware, and software than with the gimmick collaboration with Hassleblad that didn't really happen.
- Would have been nice is Hassleblad actually had something to do with the hardware, cameras etc.
- Would have been nice if Hassleblad influence was consistent with all cameras including front but seems we will have color shifts among all the cameras. Kinda defeats the whole collab for Hassleblad natural color tech.

zymphad said:
I don't understand people who upgrade from one series to the next or why anyone would expect it to have enough tech advancements to make it worth it.
Instead considering how late the 8T release was, I would have waited for OP9.
But to each their own, but amazed you are even looking at phones considering my guess you have had the 8T less than 6 months.
But I agree Oneplus should have spent more time on the hardware, and software than with the gimmick collaboration with Hassleblad that didn't really happen.
- Would have been nice is Hassleblad actually had something to do with the hardware, cameras etc.
- Would have been nice if Hassleblad influence was consistent with all cameras including front but seems we will have color shifts among all the cameras. Kinda defeats the whole collab for Hassleblad natural color tech.
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But the 2 new lenses are nice , especially the wide with no more distortion on that wide angle lens