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Hello, in a next few days I'm most likely to buy Samsung Nexus S I9023.
But I have found in this webpage that 1.it does not film at 720p also 2.LAGS in web scrolling. What is more 3.it does not have gorrila or whatever glass, is it important or just a marketing thing? So what is the current situation on number 1 and 2. Thank you very much

DZG said:
Hello, in a next few days I'm most likely to buy Samsung Nexus S I9023.
But I have found in this webpage that 1.it does not film at 720p also 2.LAGS in web scrolling. What is more 3.it does not have gorrila or whatever glass, is it important or just a marketing thing? So what is the current situation on number 1 and 2. Thank you very much
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I use mine as a phone, not a camera, so i don't really care about the 720p
The browser does lag on images, but alternative browsers (like dolphin and firefox) are fine.
Gorrilla glass does help, but it's not perfect. I support about 40 phones, 35 of witch have regular glass and 5 have gorilla glass. Over a 1 year period, I've had 1 non-gorilla glass get cracked, 2 with gorilla glass got shattered in the same time period.
To me, Gorilla glass is more about avoiding the minor scratchs and not total shatter proofing. I also have the belief that if you think your glass is more shatter proof, you are less likely to be protective of it.
(for those who want to see a shattered gorilla glass, i've attached a photo - 2 foot drop from shirt pocket landed flat faced on pavement)

Thank you for reply, I just got informed that this nexus s has super clear lcd instead of super amoled. Which screen is better while having direct contact with the sun?

DZG said:
Thank you for reply, I just got informed that this nexus s has super clear lcd instead of super amoled. Which screen is better while having direct contact with the sun?
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i guess SA screen is better when you looking at under sunlight ,
but Super Clear LCD also is fine , it's depending on your brillantness setting

so super clear lcd is jut natural colours versus SAMOLED too bright colours ? and Super clear lcd is jut bad at different view angles but other than that its good ?

DZG said:
so super clear lcd is jut natural colours versus SAMOLED too bright colours ? and Super clear lcd is jut bad at different view angles but other than that its good ?
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Trust me the SC-LCD is just fine. In day by day use you won't be too worried by what type of screen you have. Enjoy your NS

gorilla glass?

i don't know if I'm just not as careful as I think I am but the glass on my phone scratches really ****ing easily.
im always so careful with my devices. i've had my hox for a couple weeks and I only ever keep it in my pocket with nothing else in there or face up on a desk or table
I've got 2 little nicks in the middle and a big scratch across the top left corner that I can feel if I run my finger over it
its my fault for not having a screen protector, and I've been meaning to order one and just haven't gotten around to it, but I'm a little disappointed it scratched so easily

mattpannella said:
i don't know if I'm just not as careful as I think I am but the glass on my phone scratches really ****ing easily.
im always so careful with my devices. i've had my hox for a couple weeks and I only ever keep it in my pocket with nothing else in there or face up on a desk or table
I've got 2 little nicks in the middle and a big scratch across the top left corner that I can feel if I run my finger over it
its my fault for not having a screen protector, and I've been meaning to order one and just haven't gotten around to it, but I'm a little disappointed it scratched so easily
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None of my Android devices with gorilla glass have ever scratched. I just sold my Atrix I bought at release (bought in Q1 2011) yesterday- flawless glass. Keep it away from diamond earrings and sand. Most metal in general to be safe.

i have a feeling there was a grain of sand in my pocket. its the only thing I can think of.
hopefully the screen protector hides it a little
does anyone have experience getting best buy to exchange phones broken by user error? lol

We've been talking about this for eighteen pages on the international forum. There's also a thread on the SGS3 forum with owners having the same issue. It appears GG2 is less scratch resistant than GG1. I don't normally use a screen protector but am now after reading people's experiences.
"One X screen very prone to scratches" - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683458
"Scratch resistant my ass!" (SGS3) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1752710

BarryH_GEG said:
We've been talking about this for eighteen pages on the international forum. There's also a thread on the SGS3 forum with owners having the same issue. It appears GG2 is less scratch resistant than GG1. I don't normally use a screen protector but am now after reading people's experiences.
"One X screen very prone to scratches" - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683458
"Scratch resistant my ass!" (SGS3) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1752710
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Whew, then it's a good thing our phones have gg1

Yes it will scratch. I scratched mine with my wedding ring in 2 places already. Although they are on the sides and not very noticeable it can happen. I know that the wet application screen protectors do a good job at hiding the scratches like Zagg or Skinomi. I had a Zagg on mine but took it off because I didn't like the feel of it but I couldn't see the scratches with it on. I put a Skinomi on my wife's gs2 and it also covered up the scratches. I think I'm going to try the XOskin this time around for my one x. I heard the were pretty good protectors.

seh6183 said:
Whew, then it's a good thing our phones have gg1
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S4 has GG1??
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

yeah i ordered a skinomi tonight. Hopefully that masks it a little

seh6183 said:
Whew, then it's a good thing our phones have gg1
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"The 4.7-inch 720p Super LCD 2 display is protected by Corning Gorilla Glass 2, which is the new version that's thinner and stronger. We first saw the Gorilla Glass 2 back at CES 2012, though the glass manufacturer did not reveal then which handsets will be featuring the technology. HTC also told us that the One X features optical lamination, a process through which the screen ends up laminated to the glass, resulting in better viewing angles. We found this to be true, and having the screen so close to the glass makes it appear brighter and more visible under sunlight."
http://asia.cnet.com/product/htc-one-x-45869270.htm

What do you guys do to these phones? I have an aria and inspire. I am a truck driver. I have dropped the phones a time or two. I have had them jump out of the clamp type mount on rough roads. I have yet to crack or scratch a screen. I think there are a lot of very careless smartphone owners out there. I hear a lot of damage issues especially with gorilla glass. It does not sound like gg is any better than anything else.
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BarryH_GEG said:
"The 4.7-inch 720p Super LCD 2 display is protected by Corning Gorilla Glass 2, which is the new version that's thinner and stronger. We first saw the Gorilla Glass 2 back at CES 2012, though the glass manufacturer did not reveal then which handsets will be featuring the technology. HTC also told us that the One X features optical lamination, a process through which the screen ends up laminated to the glass, resulting in better viewing angles. We found this to be true, and having the screen so close to the glass makes it appear brighter and more visible under sunlight."
http://asia.cnet.com/product/htc-one-x-45869270.htm
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I've read from numerous sources that they debunked the GG2 myth and that it's gg1. I have no links to support this lol

BarryH_GEG said:
"The 4.7-inch 720p Super LCD 2 display is protected by Corning Gorilla Glass 2, which is the new version that's thinner and stronger. We first saw the Gorilla Glass 2 back at CES 2012, though the glass manufacturer did not reveal then which handsets will be featuring the technology. HTC also told us that the One X features optical lamination, a process through which the screen ends up laminated to the glass, resulting in better viewing angles. We found this to be true, and having the screen so close to the glass makes it appear brighter and more visible under sunlight."
http://asia.cnet.com/product/htc-one-x-45869270.htm
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GsmArena shows we (and International) have GG1 and that the SIII has GG2.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

jphilippon said:
GsmArena shows we (and International) have GG1 and that the SIII has GG2.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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The HTC One X is shaping up to take point as the company’s new flagship. The leaked official specifications confirm the rumors of an NVIDIA Tegra 3 chipset doing the heavy lifting inside the One X with a 1.5GHz quad-core processor. The second generation Super LCD of HD resolution (1280 x 720 pixels) at the front measures 4.7" and is protected by a layer of Gorilla Glass 2.The One X should have 1GB of RAM and 32GB of internal storage. There's no microSD slot available, but HTC will try and make up for that by providing 25GB of Dropbox online storage for two years for free.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_leaks_ahead_of_announcement-news-3886.php

BarryH_GEG said:
The HTC One X is shaping up to take point as the company’s new flagship. The leaked official specifications confirm the rumors of an NVIDIA Tegra 3 chipset doing the heavy lifting inside the One X with a 1.5GHz quad-core processor. The second generation Super LCD of HD resolution (1280 x 720 pixels) at the front measures 4.7" and is protected by a layer of Gorilla Glass 2.The One X should have 1GB of RAM and 32GB of internal storage. There's no microSD slot available, but HTC will try and make up for that by providing 25GB of Dropbox online storage for two years for free.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_leaks_ahead_of_announcement-news-3886.php
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The specs page shows GG1. Typos exist and bios hardly get edited.
Example: it was 23gb on Dropbox.
Honestly I couldn't care less if it's one or two. My phones don't get scratches I don't know what you guys are doing to them..
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Never used screen protector, never put keys in the same pocket, never had any scratches....
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My HOX fell out of my pocket when I was changing clothes, so about 6 inches from the hardwood AT MOST. My best guess is that it landed screen down on some grit because there is one big scuff and I put my fingernail in easily and one long scratch.
I've seriously never scratched an android phone before this and I've dropped them in the past a bit.
I'm going to try some cerium oxide to possibly buff it out a bit because it's really noticeable and quite the eye soar.

blaine.hale said:
My HOX fell out of my pocket when I was changing clothes, so about 6 inches from the hardwood AT MOST. My best guess is that it landed screen down on some grit because there is one big scuff and I put my fingernail in easily and one long scratch.
I've seriously never scratched an android phone before this and I've dropped them in the past a bit.
I'm going to try some cerium oxide to possibly buff it out a bit because it's really noticeable and quite the eye soar.
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NEVER buff your 6 inch hardwood with cerium oxide. Prone to chafing. Try astro glide.

I found an inch-long scratch on my screen a few days ago. No idea how it happened, as I am very careful with the phone. I hate screen protectors, but I ended up putting one on (from bestskinsever). It actually works quite well, and the screen protector made the scratch invisible, which is pretty cool.
I highly recommend bestskinsever. The body skin, and now the screen protector as well, work very well for me - couldn't be happier. Better than any case (although of course you sacrifice drop protection).
http://www.bestskinsever.com/htc-one-x-skin

Does anyone want to post pics of the scratches on their phones? Maybe seeing the pattern in which these scratches appear can shed light on how they are caused.

Does anyone know anything about the material of the glass covering the camera?

Is it regular glass, gorilla glass, or just plastic? How scratch resistant is it?
Worried about wear and tear..

Eliad Kimhy said:
Is it regular glass, gorilla glass, or just plastic? How scratch resistant is it?
Worried about wear and tear..
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Gorilla Glass 3- http://www.intomobile.com/reviews/nexus-5-review/
...Apparently 3x more durable than Gorilla Glass 2. I will say this though- the iPhone 5 has GG3 on it and I managed to scratch my screen by leaving it in my pocket with some coins/keys, but noting anywhere even close to deep.

GunninZombiesdown said:
Gorilla Glass 3- http://www.intomobile.com/reviews/nexus-5-review/
...Apparently 3x more durable than Gorilla Glass 2. I will say this though- the iPhone 5 has GG3 on it and I managed to scratch my screen by leaving it in my pocket with some coins/keys, but noting anywhere even close to deep.
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I mention in that review that the face of the device is covered in Gorilla Glass 3. This doesn't necessarily mean that it's on the lens. If it's anything like the G2's build materials, the lens could be covered in crystal sapphire glass, but Google doesn't specify this.

blakestimac said:
I mention in that review that the face of the device is covered in Gorilla Glass 3. This doesn't necessarily mean that it's on the lens. If it's anything like the G2's build materials, the lens could be covered in crystal sapphire glass, but Google doesn't specify this.
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Yup, I didn't notice that it said "camera" lol.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

GunninZombiesdown said:
Gorilla Glass 3- http://www.intomobile.com/reviews/nexus-5-review/
...Apparently 3x more durable than Gorilla Glass 2. I will say this though- the iPhone 5 has GG3 on it and I managed to scratch my screen by leaving it in my pocket with some coins/keys, but noting anywhere even close to deep.
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The iPhone does NOT have any kind of Gorilla Glass. It has always used a proprietary glass. Also, I would assume that the camera glass is sapphire like most phone cameras.

MisterEff said:
The iPhone does NOT have any kind of Gorilla Glass. It has always used a proprietary glass. Also, I would assume that the camera glass is sapphire like most phone cameras.
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Well turns out, it has Gorilla Glass 2. Don't believe me? Here's an iSheep fanpage- if they got it wrong, they would've been crucified http://www.cultofmac.com/186017/thi...ne-5s-screen-will-be-will-make-your-jaw-drop/
Another company backing the claim- http://appadvice.com/appnn/2012/09/the-iphone-5-is-one-pretty-tough-little-handset
Another- http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2013/09/10/iphone-5s-vs-iphone-5-specs-compared/

https://discussions.apple.com/message/23367084#23367084
Apple has not confirmed to anyone whether they use it and they are not listed on Corning's website. They have not used it before and there is a chance they still aren't. The sites you looked up are just making guesses.

MisterEff said:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/23367084#23367084
Apple has not confirmed to anyone whether they use it and they are not listed on Corning's website. They have not used it before and there is a chance they still aren't. The sites you looked up are just making guesses.
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Well.... Apple has never really been one to let the cat out of the bag when it comes to details about their phones. Kind of like how they filed suit against Samsung because their S-Voice software was a lot like Siri.... with a lot of people apparently failing to realize that both Siri and S-Voice were based off of voice recognition software created by the same company.... Nuance.... who also just so happens to be the creators of the software called Vlingo.... which is freely available for iPhone and Android.
It's a messed up world we live in.

I doubt it's sapphire. It's not the actual lens on the camera, it's a large circle of glass covering the the camera module and the rings around it.
I'd think this would already be answered by now, what with camera being all protruding and vulnerable to scratches. My suspicion is that since it hasn't been brought up by Google itself, it is regular glass.
P.s who cares about the iPhone? If we need a point of reference for gorilla glass there are tons of other devices out there.

MisterEff said:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/23367084#23367084
Apple has not confirmed to anyone whether they use it and they are not listed on Corning's website. They have not used it before and there is a chance they still aren't. The sites you looked up are just making guesses.
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So you chose to ignore the 3 quotes I had from companies in the industry to post one from a no name person on an Apple forum? Probably a good idea. Did you not realize there are other Apple forums that "confirm" it. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2753001?start=15&tstart=0
Either way, I doubt Apple will ever tell.
@Eliad Kimhy- the iPhone is in this thread because I used it as an example as to how the screen does scratch, go back and re-read the first couple posts and you would've known that.

Yes, I understand that, I'm just wondering what's the point of arguing whether the iPhone has gorilla glass or not when there are tons of other devices with *confirmed* gorilla glass which have been tested and scratched...
Anyone figure this out yet, by the way? I'm still laying my phone on the table like it's made out of eggshells.

Any one figured out what kind of glass it's on the camera?

I don't get why Google decided to use such a large portion of glass covering the camera sensor :/
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GunninZombiesdown said:
Gorilla Glass 3- http://www.intomobile.com/reviews/nexus-5-review/
...Apparently 3x more durable than Gorilla Glass 2. I will say this though- the iPhone 5 has GG3 on it and I managed to scratch my screen by leaving it in my pocket with some coins/keys, but noting anywhere even close to deep.
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I don't think the iPhone 5 came out in time for gorilla glass 3. But regardless, it was most likely the dust/lint in your pocket. Ironically, keys and coins don't scratch it but little bits of sand do.

poco f1's Fragile display

Did you guys see drop test of poco f1 on youtube ? The display shatters very easily, it's a point of concern.

There's a reason why the phone costs so less. Using poly-carbonate body and Gorilla Glass 3 instead of going for glass body and Gorilla Glass 5. Get a decent screen protector.

Ruvy said:
Get a decent screen protector.
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This is de rigeur with mobile phones IMHO.
I've never had a mobile and not used a screen protector. Accidents happen and it feels like you'd be a fool not to do what you can to mitigate against your screen getting knackered. I've settled on glass screen protectors which have occasionally smashed, saving the actual screen from smashing - seems the obvious way to go

A decent fall always breaks the screen no matter how good the corning gorilla glass is,they mainly provide resistance to scratches ! Better invest in a good case and tempered glass,its all about certain angle and positions,be careful to be safe
Mi A2 have Gorilla Glass 5 but still didnt survive fall according to this video,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WaNYr2DNLk

Guys, he did drop test after bend test.
So, glass was already loose from body.
So, it's obvious that it's breaks after fall.
Anyway, I just opened mine, it's feels as strong as my OnePlus 3t was.

hrsstriker said:
Did you guys see drop test of poco f1 on youtube ? The display shatters very easily, it's a point of concern.
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Many ones are jealous of Poco F1.. dont worry

RohanAJoshi said:
Guys, he did drop test after bend test.
So, glass was already loose from body.
So, it's obvious that it's breaks after fall.
Anyway, I just opened mine, it's feels as strong as my OnePlus 3t was.
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oh yes why did i not catch this part lol

I have a Nexus 5, so probably the GG is worst than GG3. When GG3 launched people liked it, now its crap? I dont think so, only it has better versions. IMO every phone should use a glass protector and case.

Do you guys think a tempered glass for Mi 8 will somewhat fit Pocophone F1? The size a pretty close +/- 1mm. Notch is obviously different but the point is to find a temporary solution while accessories for Pocophone are available.

Just out of curiosity, since the phone share the same kernels.
Is it possible to use Twrp for Mi 8 on a poco phone? And mi 8 roms on a poco phone?

bassbounce said:
Just out of curiosity, since the phone share the same kernels.
Is it possible to use Twrp for Mi 8 on a poco phone? And mi 8 roms on a poco phone?
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I dont think so, twrp and roms are related to device's partions and diffirent drivers. be patient

bassbounce said:
Just out of curiosity, since the phone share the same kernels.
Is it possible to use Twrp for Mi 8 on a poco phone? And mi 8 roms on a poco phone?
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no the phones doesn't share the "same kernel". they have different configs which turns on different display drivers, different ir drivers, different front cam drivers etc.

Ruvy said:
There's a reason why the phone costs so less. Using poly-carbonate body and Gorilla Glass 3 instead of going for glass body and Gorilla Glass 5. Get a decent screen protector.
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Policarbonate is more flexible and resistant than Glass and Aluminium
Yeah, looks cheap and it is but also has another quality over the other 2 materials apart from shock absortion: signal transmissions

This guy says he dropped Poco F1 from 5 feet of height, what happened next? Here's the link
https://thenextweb.com/plugged/2018...omi-gives-you-a-429-reason-to-skip-flagships/

I have clumsy fingers, using the included silicon case without screen protector for the past 20 days.
Must have dropped it at least 4 times from 3 to 5 feet and no problems so far.
Although have a couple of barely noticeable scratches on the front screen , so Def need a scratch guard.

thesoupthief said:
This is de rigeur with mobile phones IMHO.
I've never had a mobile and not used a screen protector. Accidents happen and it feels like you'd be a fool not to do what you can to mitigate against your screen getting knackered. I've settled on glass screen protectors which have occasionally smashed, saving the actual screen from smashing - seems the obvious way to go
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Thanks for making me google "de rigeur" .. On other note, I've never used protective glass, and dropped my iPhone 4, 5, and LG G3 (that one fallen from 2m on kitchen tiles) and nothing happened. I do worry about screen edges here being uncovered by plastic.
And a screen protector glass can only protect from mild hits. It's just how mechanics work. You don't have a spring cushion between two layers of glass.

hrsstriker said:
Did you guys see drop test of poco f1 on youtube ? The display shatters very easily, it's a point of concern.
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ohhh please stop this bull****...first I never used a screen protector and had my phones without a single scratch at the screen, drop phones with gorilla glass 1 2 3 4 and 5 a drop depends of so many things get a good ****ing case and stop complaining

lol one drop of phone screen facing down on all phone's screen will shatter. 10/10 peoples now a day use a tempered glass protector

Gorilla Glass 5 gets smooshed if pressed with fingernail, multiple scratches after 2 months. woohoo

i saw a thread on here from 2016 alledging similar claims. was wondering if someone can confirm for me that GG5 is trully no better than a plastic screen, or if possibly the manufacturer is cutting corners on phones. I recently got a Oneplus 9 for modding. I love the phone. After 2 months tho the screen scratched and SMOOSHED. Due to the nature of the damage i cannot get a picture to show it, but it looks like when you write on paper and then turn the page to see the indented letters that were written on the page before it. Yes, but its not paper, its gorilla glass 5, or atleast its supposed to be. Out of curiosity from what i was seeing i decided to push on the screen with my fingernail no harder than you might while popping a zit perhaps not even that hard, having trouble thinking of a better analogy, and i got a similar smoosh dent mark on the screen, only difference is that it does not extend as far across the face of the screen.
I called oneplus and now im thinking they will waste my time and money again by replacing the screen with the same exact garbage, as i am starting to suspect that this is real gorilla glass 5, not a fake as was my initial suspicion, and i would be better off buying a gorilla glass 3 screen for it like my 4 year old moto g7 plus has, and still does not have any noticeable damge on the screen whatsoever.
so i ask if anyone has some words of wisdom. Have you had GG5 before? Is this really the product that Corning decided was ready for the world? Or is this a cheap fake. Phone was purchased new on ebay.
Thanks everyone for your time.
Ugh

Gorilla Glass 5 ( launched in 2016 ) is heavily outdated: nowadays state of the art is Gorilla Glass Victus 2 ( launched in 2022 ).
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