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I've seen one or two screen protectors that are pictured to fit the N1, but before I go order one, I want to make sure I can't smudge and scratch it up.
I have for my MT3G the PowerSupportUSA.com screen protector for the G1, and it's served me well.
Is there anything similar or better planned soon for the Nexus?
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I've seen one or two screen protectors that are pictured to fit the N1, but before I go order one, I want to make sure I can't smudge and scratch it up.
I have for my MT3G the PowerSupportUSA.com screen protector for the G1, and it's served me well.
Is there anything similar or better planned soon for the Nexus?
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+1. I hate to post just to say +1 but I too am in need of a screen protector. If anyone has any info on any good ones, please post. As soon as a few debut I will try different ones and hopefully remember to post results here. Also, you might want to keep an eye on http://www.seidioonline.com/ as they are getting ready to sell some N1 products. They are usually overpriced but they spawn ideas so people can cheaply copy them.
Does it not come with a protector in the box? Like the G1?
No. I was disappointed it did not come with a screen protector. I ordered a kit from amazon "Skinomi TechSkin - Invisible Cell Phone Protector Shield Full Body Skin for Nexus One - Plus LIFETIME REPLACEMENTS"
Wireless Phone Accessory;
$18.95
Free shipping.
Zagg is taking preorders for the InvisibleShield -- ships approx 1/08:
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
I've never had experience with the invisibleShield line. Does anyone have any comparisons to the non-smudge/non-glare ones from powersupportusa.com referenced in my op? In order of most to least necessary, I'd like to see these qualities
1. Smudge and fingerprint proof
2. Static cling rather than adhesive backed
3. Can take a bullet to protect the screen (at least be scratch resistant)
4. glare reduction
5. Looks good.
I've not yet been able to sell my MT3G, but when I do I'm very hopeful I can buy both the screen guards, case, and phone on the same day.
Does the phone at least have a protective film that you have to peal off before you make calls or something?
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Does the phone at least have a protective film that you have to peal off before you make calls or something?
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Not that you would be able to leave on.
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I've never had experience with the invisibleShield line. Does anyone have any comparisons to the non-smudge/non-glare ones from powersupportusa.com referenced in my op? In order of most to least necessary, I'd like to see these qualities
1. Smudge and fingerprint proof
2. Static cling rather than adhesive backed
3. Can take a bullet to protect the screen (at least be scratch resistant)
4. glare reduction
5. Looks good.
I've not yet been able to sell my MT3G, but when I do I'm very hopeful I can buy both the screen guards, case, and phone on the same day.
Does the phone at least have a protective film that you have to peal off before you make calls or something?
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I've had both the Zagg (and InvisibleShield and ClearProtector and whatnot.. they're almost the same when used on the screen) and PowerSupport anti-glare ones. I'll rate it JUST FOR THE SCREEN:
1. Zagg is somewhat fingerprint proof on the screen (better than a bare screen), but too far off from the anti-glare protectors. No comparison here, anti-glare wins.
2. Zagg is adhesive based (you need to wet it with a solution to apply). Only regular screen protectors (including anti-glare ones) are static cling.
3. Ah ha, here is what the Zagg-type stuff wins. Just view the Zagg videos and you will see they are a lot stronger than a hard plastic film. Scratch-resistant-wise, I find they both do the job well enough.
4. Zagg is somewhat anti-glare, because the surface is not even. But the "bumps" are a lot bigger/coarser than anti-glare screen protectors (like PowerSupport). Zagg-type stuff is still shiny while anti-glare ones are matte. So the anti-glare property is a lot better on (gasp,) the anti-glare screen protectors.
5. Appearance wise, it depends on what you like. The anti-glare screen protectors dim/distort the screen a bit, while the Zagg-type stuff preserves the colors better. However, the Zagg stuff has an "orange-peel" look due to the bumps, while the anti-glare protectors look smooth.
Personally, I use Zagg-type skins for the body, and an anti-glare screen protector on the screen.
And I want to add that my Zagg-type skin is peeling off my Magic (since day 5 or so?!), while my anti-glare screen protector recently has a tiny dent. Both are not bullet-proof.
Anyone Looking for Nexus One Screen Protectors?
You can purchase one from
http://www.googlenexusoneaccessories.com/
or here
http://www.talkietech.com/goneoneac.html
I just received mine from Talkietech and i'm about to install the full body protector. I'll let you know how it goes.
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http://www.talkietech.com/goneoneac.html
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I found a 15% discount code that worked for my order: hfmembers
I ordered the clear silicone protector, a motorola rapid car charger, and the skinomi protector. I'll report back how everything goes.
I just pre-ordered the Zagg Screen protector only. I had one of the whole body clear skin things from Zagg for my G1... and I did not like how it made the phone look, and how it felt.
I do however, really like their screen protectors. You cannot mar them what-so-ever. The only thing I would stress is taking your time applying it to the screen. Make sure that sonovagun has a lot of the solution Zagg provides, and get all the air bubbles out.
I think a nice silicon case (hoping for a Blody Glove) for the Nexus will be a nice fit for this phone... the G1 as always cumbersome due to the sliding keyboard. Every case for it came in 3 parts.
I just got word from Martin Fields (overlayplus.com) that they have a Nexus One on order and expect to offer screen protectors in a week or so. They usually include a camera protector too.
How is the glass screen on a stock Nexus? Is it easily scratch-able? Is it even glass?
Wish it was Gorilla Glass, would solve a lot of problems
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How is the glass screen on a stock Nexus? Is it easily scratch-able? Is it even glass?
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Yes, it is glass. Does it matter how easy it is to scratch? It's possible to scratch it. If you put a protector on it, it's just a few bucks to replace if it gets messed up and it's peace of mind...
I ordered a screen protector from clearfreakmobile on ebay. It's an invisibleshield type (have to use water), but it looks fine. I never liked the full body kind as the little pieces keep coming off in my pockets. Should hopefully get it late next week.
i'll prolly check out martin fields when they start shipping them.
I still swear by naked cases they are awesome. Patiently waiting for a nexus one!
Nothing beats powersupport anti-glare. I custom cut these for my car navigation, digital camera, and all my phones. but nexus got a big ass screen and custom cutting wont work
I'm digging the Clear Protector (which, again, is the same as Zagg and Ghost Armor). It actually gets completely smooth over time and the orange peel effect becomes less noticeable. It also starts off with a little more friction on swipes than I like, but that is fixed over time as well.
The Note 8.0 doesn't come with anything like a Gorilla Glass. So I guess, a ScreenGuard would be pretty important, especially for Guys who carry the 8.0 everywhere. So post your experiences, recommendations here for everyone to see.
P.S. The Note 8.0 is yet to be launched in my country(India), but eBay is already full with 2-3 dozen listings for Scratch guards ranging anywhere between 5-20 USD!!
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The Note 8.0 doesn't come with anything like a Gorilla Glass. So I guess, a ScreenGuard would be pretty important, especially for Guys who carry the 8.0 everywhere. So post your experiences, recommendations here for everyone to see.
P.S. The Note 8.0 is yet to be launched in my country(India), but eBay is already full with 2-3 dozen listings for Scratch guards ranging anywhere between 5-20 USD!!
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While Samsung doesnt explicitly advertise it, there is certainly some sort of treated glass on the Note 8. The glass is comparable to the glass on the Note 2 both in thicknesses and hardness. I tested on one of the bank's test units and it can certainly take abuse, even so far as resisting scratches from coarse granite.
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While Samsung doesnt explicitly advertise it, there is certainly some sort of treated glass on the Note 8. The glass is comparable to the glass on the Note 2 both in thicknesses and hardness. I tested on one of the bank's test units and it can certainly take abuse, even so far as resisting scratches from coarse granite.
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Thats good to know. Though I wonder why Samsung would choose to do so?
Even if doesn't want to pay royalties to Corning for the Gorilla Glass, at least it could write "scratch resistant glass" in its specs.
Would certainly improve our impression of the build quality of the Note8.
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While Samsung doesnt explicitly advertise it, there is certainly some sort of treated glass on the Note 8. The glass is comparable to the glass on the Note 2 both in thicknesses and hardness. I tested on one of the bank's test units and it can certainly take abuse, even so far as resisting scratches from coarse granite.
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That really is bizarre that Samsung doesn't seem to mention anything about the quality of the glass--that seems like a big oversight on their part! It is good to hear your first-hand experience though--that is encouraging!
Perhaps at some point you or others could give a more detailed analysis of the glass quality, specific abuse it can withstand, etc.?
Even Gorilla Glass can be scratched from normal usage (as numerous reports by XDA users on various devices will attest). So don't take for granted that treated glass or GG makes your screen impossible to scratch.
Many people prefer the feel of going bareback with no protection, which is understandable. And its certainly a matter of preference. But its a simple fact that once you do scratch it, it really can't be undone. So if you are worried about scratches, better to protect it now, and not have to regret it later.
As far as what protector to buy, my recommendation would be to avoid the cheap ones. They tend to scratch easily, attract fingerprints, and you will be lucky to get them to last a couple months. Get a quality one in the $20 US range, as these are typically very difficult to scratch, actually attract less fingerprints and grime than the bare screen, and last a long time. I've had good quality protectors on my phone and my old tablet, that have been on for a year of more, and still look great. So in terms of durability and sheer quality, buying a good quality protector really pays off. Also, the wet apply type is much easier to install than dry.
Not sure what brands are available in the OPs home country. But I've had good luck with Skinomi and Zagg, but there are other high quality brands, as well.
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Even Gorilla Glass can be scratched from normal usage (as numerous reports by XDA users on various devices will attest). So don't take for granted that treated glass or GG makes your screen impossible to scratch.
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+1 to your opinion. Have seen some Gorilla glasses scratched.
Regards to applying, I would actually from a brick-and-mortar mobile shops, those guys are real experts at applying these.
Also, can anybody tell me the effect of the screen guard on the S-pen experience. Glossy or Matte. Which one would be preferrable? so as to not deteriorate the experience much
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Even Gorilla Glass can be scratched from normal usage (as numerous reports by XDA users on various devices will attest). So don't take for granted that treated glass or GG makes your screen impossible to scratch.
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Well said!
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Also, can anybody tell me the effect of the screen guard on the S-pen experience. Glossy or Matte. Which one would be preferrable?
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I'm wondering about these questions too.
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Regards to applying, I would actually from a brick-and-mortar mobile shops, those guys are real experts at applying these.
Also, can anybody tell me the effect of the screen guard on the S-pen experience. Glossy or Matte. Which one would be preferrable?
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The wet apply screen protectors are pretty forgiving, and easy to apply. But having a pro do it is not a bad idea, if you are uncomfortable trying. If they mess it up, they typically just take it off and try again with a new protector (at no charge to you). Obviously not an option, if you do it yourself.
Can't comment personally on matte protectors. But some folks over at the HTC Flyer forum (my old tablet, that also has pen support) seemed to like the matte protectors, as the slightly textured surface felt a bit more like writing on paper. Using the pen on the glossy or non-matte variety is very similar to how it feels on the bare screen.
Matte protectors also cut down on glare. But they tend to give a "hazy" look to the screen that I find unacceptable.
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The wet apply screen protectors are pretty forgiving, and easy to apply. But having a pro do it is not a bad idea, if you are uncomfortable trying. If they mess it up, they typically just take it off and try again with a new protector (at no charge to you). Obviously not an option, if you do it yourself.
Can't comment personally on matte protectors. But some folks over at the HTC Flyer forum (my old tablet, that also has pen support) seemed to like the matte protectors, as the slightly textured surface felt a bit more like writing on paper. Using the pen on the glossy or non-matte variety is very similar to how it feels on the bare screen.
Matte protectors also cut down on glare. But they tend to give a "hazy" look to the screen that I find unacceptable.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
As a screen itself, I find Matte ones to be better, the viewing angles and sharpness can feel a notch down than the glossy, but the reduction in glare is pretty significant. I have it on one of my Laptops(also Samsung) and it feels very good.
I guess have to wait for others' views on the S-pen experience. Probably other Note devices have some opinions on other XDA sections, will try to find out
I hired the Geek Squad to install one of those InvisibleShield protectors from BestBuy when I got my Note 8, and had it on my tablet for about three hours. I took it off because it creates an incredible amount of friction with the S Pen's nub, making writing with the thing a fantastically aggravating chore (not to mention that the pen left track marks). I'm not saying that all screen protectors are so bad when it comes to this thing's core functionality, but InvisibleShield sure is. I'd be very curious about a protector with the lubriciously of the actual screen.
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I hired the Geek Squad to install one of those InvisibleShield protectors from BestBuy when I got my Note 8, and had it on my tablet for about three hours. I took it off because it creates an incredible amount of friction with the S Pen's nub, making writing with the thing a fantastically aggravating chore (not to mention that the pen left track marks). I'm not saying that all screen protectors are so bad when it comes to this thing's core functionality, but InvisibleShield sure is. I'd be very curious about a protector with the lubriciously of the actual screen.
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Could you throw some light on the material of the Screen Guard, was it glossy or matte?
So are you without the Guard now?
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Check out the thread I just made for the MiniGuard. It works very well!
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Could you throw some light on the material of the Screen Guard, was it glossy or matte?
So are you without the Guard now?
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The guard was glossy, near as I can remember. I am indeed without the protector.
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I hired the Geek Squad to install one of those InvisibleShield protectors from BestBuy when I got my Note 8, and had it on my tablet for about three hours. I took it off because it creates an incredible amount of friction with the S Pen's nub, making writing with the thing a fantastically aggravating chore (not to mention that the pen left track marks). I'm not saying that all screen protectors are so bad when it comes to this thing's core functionality, but InvisibleShield sure is. I'd be very curious about a protector with the lubriciously of the actual screen.
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The ZAGG InvisibleShield screen protectors are the type applied with a liquid solution. Any of these type of screen protectors need to sit untouched for at least 24 hours to completely dry and become hard. Otherwise if you use your device before the skin has had a chance to completely dry, it will be slightly gummy at first, then a bit harder but still a bit of a rubber-type surface when using a stylus, which causes the stylus tip grab or stutter across the surface. Even when dry, these have a slight Orange Peel surface that I don't care for. YMMV. IME these also don't work well or last very long in Tropical or humid enviroments.
I've never liked any of the wet-application protectors for these reasons...I've tried the Zagg's, Skinomi's and one other I can't remember. I'll stick to the SGP/Steinhill Ultra Crystal dry-application protectors. Unfortunately, these aren't available yet for the Note 8.0.
Just my .02
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The ZAGG InvisibleShield screen protectors are the type applied with a liquid solution. Any of these type of screen protectors need to sit untouched for at least 24 hours to completely dry and become hard. Otherwise if you use your device before the skin has had a chance to completely dry, it will be slightly gummy at first, then a bit harder but still a bit of a rubber-type surface when using a stylus, which causes the stylus tip grab or stutter across the surface. Even when dry, these have a slight Orange Peel surface that I don't care for. YMMV. IME these also don't work well or last very long in Tropical or humid enviroments.
I've never liked any of the wet-application protectors for these reasons...I've tried the Zagg's, Skinomi's and one other I can't remember. I'll stick to the SGP/Steinhill Ultra Crystal dry-application protectors. Unfortunately, these aren't available yet for the Note 8.0.
Just my .02
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Huh... that liar. The guy at BB told me that the protector would be just fine and dandy after two hours, which is why I bailed after trying to use it for an hour. Oh well. At least it provided about an hour of amusement as my buddy and I attempted to rip or puncture the plastic with everything we had in the house (we were unsuccessful, even with ceramic knives and a motorized hand drill) (edit- after I had taken the protector of my tablet, of course). I'll keep an eye out for one of the dry applicators that you mention. And I'll apply it myself, after reading the instructions with my own eyes.
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I'll keep an eye out for one of the dry applicators that you mention. And I'll apply it myself, after reading the instructions with my own eyes.
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Be aware that dry apply is much more difficult to put on. With wet apply, you have time to slide it around, into just the right position, before you squeegee the excess application fluid out. With dry apply, its basically like a sticker, if you are off by just millimeters as you start to place it, you have to peel it back and start over, likely getting more fingerprints on the edges every time you do that.
Also, for some reason I can't explain, the wet apply gets much less dust under the protector as you apply it. The wet apply protectors I've used (twice now) have gone on flawlessly, and dust free as far as I can see. Before this, I used the dry apply many times. It took some practice before I could really get a dust free application. The first few I did, had a good amount of dust under them until I learned to go it just right. Even with experience, it takes a lot of care to get a dust free install with the dry apply. With wet apply, its pretty effortless.
I couldn't tell you why the wet apply seems to get less dust under them during installation. It doesn't make sense by conventional wisdom. Maybe dust particles just get carried away, when you squeegee the excess application fluid away.
I'd recommend doing the shower trick with the dry apply type (and it doesn't hurt with wet apply either) to reduce the amount of dust in the air while you do the install. That is, run a hot shower for 10 minutes or so, to steam up your bathroom. This pulls much of the dust out of the air. Then bring your tablet in there and apply the protector (don't leave it in there before or after the install, to minimize the time the device is exposed to high humidity).
Its true that dry apply does have a smoother finish and less tacky feel then wet apply. They tend to not suffer from the "orange peel" look. But the orange peel look on good quality wet apply protectors tends to be hardly visible when the screen is off, and not visible at all when the screen is on. But this might vary depending on the room's lighting conditions. To me, the orange peel is not a bother, but that is probably a personal preference.
The experts who put the guards here, first polish the device display to a great extent and then put the guard straightaway.
The one they applied on my phone, had a good protective covering which was peeled as the guy applied more and more. Even after this, there was another protection over the actual guard.
Also the screen guard wasnt specifically for my device, he also cut it out as per my device after the application.
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The ZAGG InvisibleShield screen protectors are the type applied with a liquid solution. Any of these type of screen protectors need to sit untouched for at least 24 hours to completely dry and become hard. Otherwise if you use your device before the skin has had a chance to completely dry, it will be slightly gummy at first, then a bit harder but still a bit of a rubber-type surface when using a stylus, which causes the stylus tip grab or stutter across the surface. Even when dry, these have a slight Orange Peel surface that I don't care for. YMMV. IME these also don't work well or last very long in Tropical or humid enviroments.
I've never liked any of the wet-application protectors for these reasons...I've tried the Zagg's, Skinomi's and one other I can't remember. I'll stick to the SGP/Steinhill Ultra Crystal dry-application protectors. Unfortunately, these aren't available yet for the Note 8.0.
Just my .02
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I emailed Spigen SGP asking if they were going to make one for the Note 8 and they said they had no plans to do so. i was certainly disappointed to hear that. I have one of their protectors on my note 2 and its great. I agree with you, the dry apply protectors are so much smoother than the wet ones and do not have orange peel or get that "sticky" feeling.
there is another thread with a review of the MiniGuard protectors which look to be of the dry apply variety. i almost bought some the other day when i ran across them at amazon and now that the review confirmed it (with pics too), this looks like the best option since Spigen wont be making anything.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BXQUQ9U/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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there is another thread with a review of the MiniGuard protectors which look to be of the dry apply variety. i almost bought some the other day when i ran across them at amazon and now that the review confirmed it (with pics too), this looks like the best option since Spigen wont be making anything.
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That is too bad about Spigen SGP. If you (or others) try out the MiniGuard protectors consider letting us all know your impressions (and whether you went with Clear or Anti-Glare). @JokeZony0u has done a great review of the Clear protectors, but I think it is still helpful to have multiple datapoints for these kinds of things.
^^Thanks for that. Yeah, it looks as if the MiniGuard is the dry-app protector to get since Spigen SGP is out of the equation. Hopefully we'll get more good reviews of other protectors as well.
I agree that the hot, steamy shower technique is good. Also have some small, clean pieces of 3M Scotch Tape handy to pluck off any dust particles from the screen or the contact side of the protector film. I use a large microfiber cloth lightly dampened with isopropol alcohol to clean the entire device beforehand. Then I use the included microfiber cloth to further clean the screen just before applying the protector.
There's a good YouTube video on the best way to apply the dry protectors.
You line the protector up on your screen first (before removing any layers).
Then once the film is aligned properly, hold it in place and attach two pieces of blue painter's tape to the top of the protector film and just along ONE SIDE of the phone/tablet...one near the top and one near bottom, so that the screen protector flaps open to one side like a page in a book, using the blue painter's tape as a hinge.
Flip it open & out of the way and clean the screen again with your microfiber cloth. Double-check your alignment and readjust if necessary.
Then peel back the bottom film layer, remove it completely, and slowly apply the screen protector from the taped side to the free side.
Sqeegee out any bubbles.
Lift the protector just slightly with another small piece of blue painter's tape if you need to remove any dust particles with your Scotch Tape.
Sqeegee again and make sure the alignment is good.
Only remove the side positioning tape if you are satisfied with the application and alignment.
Finally, carefully remove the temporary top layer from the main screen protector film, being careful not to lift the main protector film.
I wanted to gather some feedback after many of us have had the phone for several months.
In my second week of owning the phone, I put a simple screen protector on and have not taken it off. The bare screen was so smooth and so easy to clean, resisting fingerprints which the screen protector collects like there is glue on it.
Have any of you been running with the device sans a protector, and if so, how has your screen fared in terms of nicks and scratches? I would love to peel mine off if I can be reasonably confident it can live without it.
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I wanted to gather some feedback after many of us have had the phone for several months.
In my second week of owning the phone, I put a simple screen protector on and have not taken it off. The bare screen was so smooth and so easy to clean, resisting fingerprints which the screen protector collects like there is glue on it.
Have any of you been running with the device sans a protector, and if so, how has your screen fared in terms of nicks and scratches? I would love to peel mine off if I can be reasonably confident it can live without it.
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I just ordered my Moto X but I can speak from experience with other Gorilla Glass 3 screens. If you are careful with them you will most likely not get any easily visible scratches, but odds are you will get minor scratches that are only visible under sunlight/directly under a lightbulb. If that would bother you, keep a screen protector on it. If not, take it off.
I just ordered my motox, I was wondering what screen protector or tempered glass you would recommend (I'm from the UK)
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I just ordered my motox, I was wondering what screen protector or tempered glass you would recommend (I'm from the UK)
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Based on what I've read in the tempered glass screen protector thread, there don't seem to be any companies putting out a tempered glass screen protector that works perfectly with the Moto X 2. Because of the slightly curved screen, none of the glass screen protectors will stick properly around the edges.
I haven't used a screen protector in at least 3 years. I hate them, and think they are absolutely pointless. What's the point of protecting the glass if you are never going to actually USE the glass?
I'm using the matte screen protector from Moto's site. Actually really like it. It does degrade image quality when light colors are shown though. Regardless, the matte effect is pretty cool and just having a tiny bit of protection puts me at ease since we still don't have high quality tempered glass options.
You are using the glass, you're looking through it!!
I'm looking for a good screen protector for my Moto X.
I tried these, but they weren't good:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NU8CBBU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Anybody tried a good one?
//nejo01
I have not used screen protector in a few years myself. They won't help if you drop your phone. Also with Gorilla glad it is very hard to get scratches, however I have gotten some micro scratches that can be seen with the lighting just right.
With this phone I have had it for a month now and no scratches.
I really think the screen on this new Moto X is great and I would not recommend a screen protector.
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I've dropped mine two times, the second of which was from about 5 feet straight onto concrete. The phone bounced, landed on the screen and slid about a foot. There's not one scratch on it. No screen protector or case. Don't know if I'm extremely lucky or this thing is a tank.
I have dropped my Moto G (1st gen) 57 times. Yes, I keep count
The screen still looked perfect before I gave it to my dad when I got the Moto X. There was one small scratch on the plastic on the back, but it was pretty minuscule in size.
I love the feel of the glass too.
I really don't think screen protectors are necessary even if you are as clumsy as me. I could just be lucky too...
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I've dropped my Moto X 2nd Gen 3 times now and all 3 times the screen got a new crack. I'm getting it replaced since I got MotoCare. The curved glass adds some weakness and since these curved edges extend out past the frame that is the first thing that hits on front face falls. I'm looking for a screen protector, if one exist, that will be able to wrap around the edges.
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I have dropped my Moto G (1st gen) 57 times. Yes, I keep count
The screen still looked perfect before I gave it to my dad when I got the Moto X. There was one small scratch on the plastic on the back, but it was pretty minuscule in size.
I love the feel of the glass too.
I really don't think screen protectors are necessary even if you are as clumsy as me. I could just be lucky too...
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Here's the thing about screen protectors. The cheap (and not so cheap) plastic ones are mostly unnecessary. They won't protect against drops very much (maybe some of the wet apply ones) and give off a way worse feel to the finger than the pure glass. They do protect against scratches, but IMO it's not worth the effort nor the cost.
However, the new(ish) tempered glass screen protectors change a lot of that. Sure, they're kind of expensive, but they actually protect against drops, feel like the glass that's on the phone, and protect against scratches as well. However, it's incredibly apparent that due to the design of the Moto X, few companies are bothering to make this type of screen protector for the phone, and the few that are have made products that don't fit very well to the phone. So there's really no good option here in terms of screen protectors.
From what I've read, there isn't really a good tempered glass screen protector for this device yet. It seems like all of the decent ones still have issues with the sides lifting up due to the curved edges. Has anyone found that covers the entire screen and doesn't have this issue?
Hi there, people,
This is the first high end smarthphone I have ever owned and I am quite at loss with the case selecting issue. On one hand, the device looks awesome without any case, and it's been marketed as "no need for a case". On the other, I would absolutely hate discovering a scratch in my brand new Z5 Compact, at least while the device is less than a year old.
So, I ask the following question to the community: Which case (brand) have you been using with your Z5C (or other high end phones)? "No case" is also an answer, if you've been using a S6E without case since launch, I would love to know, as I wouldn't expect the Z5C to endure less.
I wouldn't mind paying premium for a premium case, in fact, my goto option would be the official Sony case, but in this particular case, I happen to find it hideous.
Thanks!!
PS: Any comments about the screen protectors would be welcomed, tempered crystal, plastic... I always suspected that it was a scam.
Tempered glass protections aren't a scam. They don't protect a lot better from scratches than plastic in MOST situations, but there can be that one time were an extra sharp thing goes through the plastic pretty much instantaneously and leaves your screen with a nasty scratch. Glass screen protectors also stick better in my opinion, leave no bubbles, and feel a lot better to the touch. You don't even need an expensive one, I bought two for 5$ on ebay, from a brand I never heard of and they're great. If you pay more, the fit will be better, it can be thinner, etc, but any is better than none. Plus, where the plastic protector scratches easily, the glass one will stay pristine a lot longer. You should try a cheap one to see the added comfort they add and decide from that.
Regarding cases, depends on what you want. There are other threads (1, 2) where you can see if there's anything you like. Also, since the phone just came out, there's not a lot of choice out there, most are chinese brands and rebrands of the same thing. You can always get one that protects and is cheap and get a better one once there's more variety. I have been using this one, it's not great, I like a bit more protection but it does a better job than going nude while I wait for a better choice.
Yeah, like NPK06 said, the tempered* glass screen protectors aren't a scam.
There's pretty much two types of screen protectors for phones. Plastic (PET film) or glass.
With a plastic one you tend to lose the slick feel of the glass and depending on the quality it could affect the clarity or colors and so on.
Plastic protectors also scratch relatively easily and the application is horrid as it's not a rigid object you're trying to lower on the phone.
Glass protectors are made from, glass, doh. Same stuff as there is on your phone. No loss in feel or clarity and so on.
Typically 0.2-0.4mm in thickness, tempered, oleophobic coating (literally "fear of oil") which resists finger prints and makes the glass easy to clean, nowadays they've got rounded edges as well. And high surface hardness (8-9H) so they're tough to scratch.
Easy application. All you need to make sure is to just line it up carefully. They adhere themselves pretty amazingly. Sometimes it starts automagically from one of edge of the protector and sometimes you need to press on the center of the glass to start the process.
Heres couple of examples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nle4XIrtBRw&t=16s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H5p4d3UhEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpJv8tO5Am4
It really is as simple as that. Clean, wipe, align, lower it down. Voila. Easy even for me with my big fingers
A tempered glass screen protector really is a nice thing to have. In case you drop the phone, the protector could take the front of the blow.
So instead of cracking the glass of your phone, only the screen protector would crack.
With my One M7, it once dropped. The phone bumped against a round metal object.
Point of impact was at the long side edge of phone at 45 degrees so not directly at/parallel to the screen or not directly at the side of the phone. The edge of the screen protector took the force of the impact, tiny section of the edge crumbled into small little not-sharp-pieces and then started a hair line fracture from the point of impact.
The glass of the phone was unaffected. That's pretty remarkable considering the glass on the M7 is from edge to edge.
I can not recommend these glass screen protectors enough! They're hell of a lot cheaper than having to repair a cracked screen!
And there are also tempered glass protectors for backs, eg. for Xperia Z phones.
StilGut is one of the brands that offers front and back tempered glass protectors for Z5 series.
You can find them from Amazon and so on, or from their home page. If you are in Europe ordering from their home page is better, the front+back protector is 19.99€ + shipping inside EU 4.5€. And apparently you can get a 5€ promo code if you sign up for their newsletter.
On Amazon it was 20$.
Disclaimer though, I have never personally used StilGut products myself, I just came aware of their products on the Z5 accessories forum by another user. Just letting you know they exist and the price point.
* Tempered (or toughened) glass basically means that the glass has gone through a thermal or chemical process to increase it's strength.
The surface of the glass is in compression and the inside of the glass is in tension. If the glass breaks, instead of splintering into jagged shards, toughened glass breaks into small granular chunks.
Thank you both for your kind replies. I finally got into the shotgun solution: bought several cases with the hope that one of them fulfil my needs and the Stilgut screen protector. I might post some reviews after some testing, specially for the Stilgut, after I have tested its oleophobicness.
Personally, as I’ve written in other threads, I found the IMBZBK straightforward to install with an excellent result, including being able to turn off screen protector mode. I remained open-minded about the Whitestone Dome, which although somewhat more expensive has been around longer and has a premiere reputation.
I’ve now seen a YouTube comparison of both screen protectors, including their installation and the results, along with eight others. See here (they’re the 9th and 10th shown). YMMV, but to me the Whitestone installation seems much more difficult with more opportunities for something to go wrong. Does anyone here have personal experience with both?
If I'm not mistaken, I've used Whitestone back on my Pixel 2 XL way back when, but I too am using a IMBZBK screen protector(film). This new method for installing the screen protectors has easily became my favorite out of everytime I've ever applied one and I'm really glad all the makers of screen protectors seem to be adopting the same installation method.
As for the Whitestone, I understand reputation and all, but if something just works, I don't see the need in spending the extra cash but to each their own.
I too don't use screen protector mode on my device and the only time my fingerprint doesn't work is if it's oily, basically just not fully clean.
Since getting used to the MOCA glue method screen protectors starting with the Pixel 6 Pro, I'm hesitant to try anything other than Whitestone. I know I used one of these types of screen protectors before - might have been this brand, and I had a bubble I just could never get out - most other bubbles I got out, but there was one that was the bubble from hell. With the MOCA glue Whitestone Dome, I never even get a bubble to begin with. With a discount for the Whitestone Dome on the Pixel 7 Pro, it was ~$35 for a kit of two, one for my wife and one for me. I can handle that.
I'll probably stick with Whitestone until/if I ever have a bad experience.
But yes, to each their own, and what works for you is good.
Edit: I don't use screen protector mode, either. Fingerprint is still fast.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Since getting used to the MOCA glue method screen protectors starting with the Pixel 6 Pro, I'm hesitant to try anything other than Whitestone. I know I used one of these types of screen protectors before - might have been this brand, and I had a bubble I just could never get out - most other bubbles I got out, but there was one that was the bubble from hell. With the MOCA glue Whitestone Dome, I never even get a bubble to begin with. With a discount for the Whitestone Dome on the Pixel 7 Pro, it was ~$35 for a kit of two, one for my wife and one for me. I can handle that.
I'll probably stick with Whitestone until/if I ever have a bad experience.
But yes, to each their own, and what works for you is good.
Edit: I don't use screen protector mode, either. Fingerprint is still fast.
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Respectfully, the point of comparing the Whitestone to the IMBZBK is that it, too, is a LOCA install, but easier and less open to error than the Whitestone (unless the YouTube video is misleading).
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Respectfully, the point of comparing the Whitestone to the IMBZBK is that it, too, is a LOCA install, but easier and less open to error than the Whitestone (unless the YouTube video is misleading).
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Whoops, LOCA, guess I wasn't as used to it as I thought. I was also working on home network earlier, hence MOCA.
My point was that my experience wasn't less open to error for me, but what's good for one person isn't necessarily what's good for all.
I think one difference between the Whitestone and IMBZBK may be the thickness of the glass. Whitestone used to say their glass was .33mm thick (about 3 yrs ago). although I can't find a recent statement on how thick it now is (think I saw somewhere that it was .26mm for the Pixel 6, but not sure). IMBZBK says theirs is .16mm thick.
I've done both the kits and in my particular case the IMBZBK had multiple issues. One of the screen protectors didn't have protective film on the back but they put the sticker on the back of the glass. I found the nubs or little colored clamps whatever they were in my case lifted the glass too high in one area so the adhesive didn't flow all the way. 2nd attempt there was a bubble in the same area to a lesser extent. I ended up cleaning the third one off and using the film to remove dust and just did it freehand no jig etc (which I've done multiple times before) and the application was perfect. I saw some users had similar issues to me and others had no problem at all with the install via their jig. So to me that shows there's a QC issue. That and them using their ratings from other products to give the p7p a high rating is kind of scummy imo.
Got the Whitestone and took off the IMBZBK and installed the Whitestone first time no issues with the kit at all. To me the glass feels better than the IMBZBK and the olephobic coat seems better as well. Plus not having to use a weight on the FP sensor (another possible point of failure) is a plus to me. Longterm we know Whitestone's adhesive will hold up and not lift and have webbing appear on the sides. Only time will tell how well the IMBZBK will hold up. Hopefully IMBZBK steps up their game and sorts out their QC issues and show they have a high quality long lasting product as competition is always a good thing.
My Whitestone arrives later today. The installation routine debate not withstanding I do see in the comparison video that the Whitestone is SHORTER in length than the IMBZBK. In other words there is more uncovered screen space above the selfie as well as at the bottom of the screen. I assume this is to mitigate any contact with a case that could cause the protector to lift up. So I guess it all depends on the case you are using as to how the protector looks after installation. I will be using a Spigen Rugged Armor which also arrives today so I will see how much of a gap is left between the Whitestone and the Spigen.
Installed my Whitestone. Fits perfectly. Using a Spigen Rugged Armor case and as usual it fits perfectly. The uncovered area above the selfie and at the bottom edge are as minimal as anyone could want using the Spigen case. I cannot speak to any other case(s) but I am pleased. The Whitestone installation was easy. Maybe not as "easy" as the olden days when you could just lay a FLAT 9H tempered glass screen protector on just about any phone...but easy nonetheless. I do encourage watching the installation video at least once to get the procedure in mind before starting.
I also appreciate the clear "tape" for the camera bump. Any protection against micro scratches is better than no protection. I figure if it gets boogered up over time I can just peel it off...no biggie!
Highly recommend both the Whitestone and the Spigen! YMMV
P.S. I did not have to redo any of my fingerprints! I also did not have to change the sensitivity setting for the fingerprints. So everything is good to go for me!
One more P.S. The Whitestone feels much smoother than even the original unprotected screen. Again YMMV.
Is there any discount codes for ordering Whitestone via Amazon?
In IMBZBK and Whitestone, it appears we have two first-rate, curved tempered glass screen protectors for the Pixel 7 Pro, both using LOCA and UV-curing. The main differences appear to be:
IMBZBK is $5, or 12.5%, less expensive than Whitestone.
Whitestone includes a more useful to some, because clear, rear camera protector. (I myself am not using the IMBZBK rear camera protector.)
IMBZBK includes three screen protectors; Whitestone only two. (For people seeking to protect more than one P7P, this can increase dramatically the cost-saving from using IMBZBK.)
Installing IMBZBK may be somewhat less prone to user error (based on my watching several YouTube videos; I have no personal experience with Whitestone).
Whitestone has a longer track record, which may provide greater confidence when considering spending c. 2.5-4 times more than on most (often less satisfactory) screen protectors.
jaseman said:
Installed my Whitestone. Fits perfectly. Using a Spigen Rugged Armor case and as usual it fits perfectly. The uncovered area above the selfie and at the bottom edge are as minimal as anyone could want using the Spigen case. I cannot speak to any other case(s) but I am pleased. The Whitestone installation was easy. Maybe not as "easy" as the olden days when you could just lay a FLAT 9H tempered glass screen protector on just about any phone...but easy nonetheless. I do encourage watching the installation video at least once to get the procedure in mind before starting.
I also appreciate the clear "tape" for the camera bump. Any protection against micro scratches is better than no protection. I figure if it gets boogered up over time I can just peel it off...no biggie!
Highly recommend both the Whitestone and the Spigen! YMMV
P.S. I did not have to redo any of my fingerprints! I also did not have to change the sensitivity setting for the fingerprints. So everything is good to go for me!
One more P.S. The Whitestone feels much smoother than even the original unprotected screen. Again YMMV.
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Do you think either of these screen protectors will go on sale for black Friday?
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Do you think either of these screen protectors will go on sale for black Friday?
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I'm not ignoring you. I just don't know.
IMBZK is currently on sale at Amazon for $28 (20% off). I am returning my Skinomi protectors because the edges are lifting up. Bought the IMBZK. After the return credit, net cost was $20. Arrives in 1 day.
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If I'm not mistaken, I've used Whitestone back on my Pixel 2 XL way back when, but I too am using a IMBZBK screen protector(film). This new method for installing the screen protectors has easily became my favorite out of everytime I've ever applied one and I'm really glad all the makers of screen protectors seem to be adopting the same installation method.
As for the Whitestone, I understand reputation and all, but if something just works, I don't see the need in spending the extra cash but to each their own.
I too don't use screen protector mode on my device and the only time my fingerprint doesn't work is if it's oily, basically just not fully clean.
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I'm with you. I love the process of installing Film Screen Protectors. I'm using a TOCOL protector, but have the same results with Screen Protector Mode off.
Jeez! That IMBZBK one is like a science experiment. lol
So, what happens to the adhesive when it's time to trade the phone in?
I'm using this LK screen protection. Used on S22U & now on my P7Pro.
Everthing works well including the fingerprint. It goes all the way to the curves of the screen
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B0BG63SQ8R/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Jeez! That IMBZBK one is like a science experiment. lol
So, what happens to the adhesive when it's time to trade the phone in?
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Usually there's hardly any trace of it. A quick wipe down and you're set to go.
First time using these glass protectors that require curing. The Whitestone kit looks like a science experiment, it was a bit intimidating when I saw all the parts. But I watched an installation video twice and got mine installed smoothly and flawlessly on the first go. They really made it pretty fool proof.
My gripe is while I prefer and like the clear camera bar protector, they had no labels so I had no way of telling which is the right side. That installation didn't go as well
My IMBZBK installation went terrible. First attempt there were bubbles. Second attempt, I worked to remove all the bubbles before curing. Still had some bubbles, but even worse the surface of the protector was sticky and streaky. Maybe some of the glue got on the surface while I was dapping the excess off.
Amazon Returns is sending me a replacement. While packing up the old kit, I noticed that the frame was broken/cracked.
Hopefully, the installation will go better with the replacement kit. I need to be extra careful getting rid of any bubbles and keeping any glue off of the top surface.