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[FONT="]On the touch pro, the screen off during a phone call feature is a big annoyance especially if you have to enter number after dialing (passwords, pins, or any other touch tones)[/FONT]
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[FONT="]I absolutely hate the iPhone with a passion. However, I do admire the heatsensitive screen during a phone call. When you put the phone up next to your ear the screen turns off to avoid keypresses, and when you bring it away from your ear the phone screen automatically turns back on. [/FONT]
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[FONT="]I'd like to emulate this function on the touch pro. I say emulate because obviously the touch pro does not have a heat sensor. My initial thought was using the accelerometer configuration in the Gyrator program. [/FONT]
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[FONT="]I've disabled screen off and quick sleep via Shaps advanced config tool. I added the event in Graytor that when in the Phone program and in portrait orientation then turn screen off.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]However, there are some issues with this. I'd like to do this when call only, not in the entire phone program. Also, I can't seem to get the screen to turn back on when the phone is returned to face_up orientation.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]If anyone has any insight, or if this issue has been already posted, or if you have any other ideas I'd love to hear them. [/FONT]
This cab will keep the backlight on during calls: http://www.ppcmobility.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1885&postcount=13
I think what you're better off looking for from a development perspective is something that uses the light sensor (it's just inside of the headset speaker) so if it's dark the backlight is off...light and it's on. Currently the sensor dims the backlight under preset conditions but does not control on/off.
Thanks for the response. I can just make the regedits myself for the backlight always on. But I don't want to do that because then I can press keys on accident.
I do like the idea about the lightsensor though.
you can install slide to answer which includes a canvas that covers the screen like this:
hey, I was trying to avoid that solution,thanks for the post though,
anyone have any ideas on how to use the light sensor or gyrator to do this?
I disable the phone skin and my phone stays on during phones calls. It also got rid of the ring/caller ID delay.
but disabling the skin also gets rid of bluetooth notifier wether its on or not and of course you have the old buttons (yuck)
This is going off topic. I am not looking to keep the backlight on.
I hated it too I think this is what your looking for.
-McMex
mcmexican said:
I hated it too I think this is what your looking for.
-McMex
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The problem with this CAB is that is changes the G-Sensor Polling to a ridiculous number like 10000, and that causes issues with any programs that rely on the accelerometer to rotate the screen automatically.
cremainsc said:
I disable the phone skin and my phone stays on during phones calls. It also got rid of the ring/caller ID delay.
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Hmmm.. I didn't get that effect when I tried it.
mcmexican said:
I hated it too I think this is what your looking for.
-McMex
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this has never done the trick for me
or the reg edits completely
NotATreoFan said:
The problem with this CAB is that is changes the G-Sensor Polling to a ridiculous number like 10000, and that causes issues with any programs that rely on the accelerometer to rotate the screen automatically.
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Until there is a fix for this. I'm curretly using 600GOL's screen tilt app to get my apps to rotate (opera)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465586
NotATreoFan said:
The problem with this CAB is that is changes the G-Sensor Polling to a ridiculous number like 10000, and that causes issues with any programs that rely on the accelerometer to rotate the screen automatically.
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Oh I dont use any of the G-Sensor apps I only go to landscape when I use the HW keyboard which is rarely so I wouldnt have noticed. For me if it was between the G-sensor apps or the phone turning off during a call I would choose the phone not turning off. Sorry if I caused any issues to anyone.
-McMex
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Oh I dont use any of the G-Sensor apps I only go to landscape when I use the HW keyboard which is rarely so I wouldnt have noticed. For me if it was between the G-sensor apps or the phone turning off during a call I would choose the phone not turning off. Sorry if I caused any issues to anyone.
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i would take this 'hit' as well... i see it's not too definite of a fix but... the screen turning off during calls is weak.
*installs no sleep*
I don't think anyone is understanding what I am asking for. I am not asking for a way to keep the screen on during a phone call or to avoid turning it off.
I am looking for a developer to make a program that uses the TP's light sensor durning a phone call to AUTOMATICALLY turn screen on and off.
Example:
When there is full darkness(Phone is up to your ear) - turn the screen off
When there is light shown(Phone away from ear) - turn screen on
I need this but only during phone call.
I am not an expert but I think you have a problem here as the light sensor doesn't work in sleep mode
No it's not a problem.
It's a feature I want implemented using the light sensor.
lol, i think it is rediculious that people dont read his question (who can create a file/program that automaticly change with screen on/off).
Looking forward to see a change, because the screen goes ON or OFF manually isnt the solution.
Whoever makes this guy's program will be a hero.
I like that the screen turns off when I put the phone to my ear but it is annoying to have to turn it on again to enter pin numbers. Especially if you use the autolock feature as this means when the phone is awakened its back on the home screen. By the time I get back to the phone app and into the keypad it's often too late to enter my pin!
HI,
just looking for some *.cab or tips to lock the HTC HD2 screen when i receve or make a call...
U know, several times the call ending because just touching the screen with my hear... so, i've tried some tips like cab to render the screen less sensitive, but is not working nice.
My last experience was good with Inesoft Phone v.6.05.cab, this suite can manage many thinks and for me the nice one was this one (can lock the screen when receve a phone call) Because most of the functions aren't useful for me i have uninstaled, also drain% LOW my battery very fast...
Well, anyway, i just wana know first if some ppl get same problem about this like me, after folded many threads here, i never see somone talking about...
Yes i've see about screen sensitive problem report but not when making call or answering...
Thank you for ur opinion ur suggest and may ur solutions...
Official rom FR 1.66
using cookies uptade with CHT( last version)
bye, sorry for my poor english
ugh i have the same problem dude. the lockscreen doesnt lock during calls for some reason. well it locks then unlocks randomly. people suggest using s2u2 but it looks like sth from iphone and i dont like it. theres also pocketprotector but its paid and i cant be bothered paying 15$
I've got the same problem and searching for a .cab.
Incoming calls often ending when I pull the phone out of my pocket
Pocketshield should work for you. You can lock the screen and protect the hard press keys as well when recieving calls. It has many other features I have found handy as well. Their is a free demo you can download from their site. I love the proximity sensor...I leave it locked and when I pull it out of my pocket it automatically unlocks.
HD2lex said:
HI,
just looking for some *.cab or tips to lock the HTC HD2 screen when i receve or make a call...
U know, several times the call ending because just touching the screen with my hear... so, i've tried some tips like cab to render the screen less sensitive, but is not working nice.
My last experience was good with Inesoft Phone v.6.05.cab, this suite can manage many thinks and for me the nice one was this one (can lock the screen when receve a phone call) Because most of the functions aren't useful for me i have uninstaled, also drain% LOW my battery very fast...
Well, anyway, i just wana know first if some ppl get same problem about this like me, after folded many threads here, i never see somone talking about...
Yes i've see about screen sensitive problem report but not when making call or answering...
Thank you for ur opinion ur suggest and may ur solutions...
Official rom FR 1.66
using cookies uptade with CHT( last version)
bye, sorry for my poor english
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Isn't there a proximity sensor in HD2 already? The purpose of the sensor is to disable the screen when approaching to your ear, so it cannot end the conversation accidentally.
I have the same problem and it has been discussed on here before.
Seems to be an issue with light entering the proximity sensor. I cut people off and the keypad starts dialling when I go outside or enter bright sunlight and my head isn't covering the sensor properly (at least that's what seems to happen).
afaik the proximity sensor has nothing to do with light... the fact that the screen turns on i think it's a bug... for me it never turns on when speaking if i have my phone by the ear... instead sometimes the screen turns on when making a call and it starts ringing in the earpiece and again when the other part answers...
gjizaqin said:
Isn't there a proximity sensor in HD2 already? The purpose of the sensor is to disable the screen when approaching to your ear, so it cannot end the conversation accidentally.
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yes there is a proximity sensor in the HD2, but this one for me is never working in regard of this problem, working wel only when i receve a call to diminue the sound from the ringtone when approching the phone, nothink else...
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Your right this is another think. light and sensor working in different way for this problem.
HD2lex said:
yes there is a proximity sensor in the HD2, but this one for me is never working in regard of this problem, working wel only when i receve a call to diminue the sound from the ringtone when approching the phone, nothink else...
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you really need to RTFM... what has to do the proximity senzor with quiet mode (volumes drop when you pick up the phone from a table or somthg)?.... that is triggered by the g-sensor...
tyyamamoto said:
Pocketshield should work for you. You can lock the screen and protect the hard press keys as well when recieving calls. It has many other features I have found handy as well. Their is a free demo you can download from their site. I love the proximity sensor...I leave it locked and when I pull it out of my pocket it automatically unlocks.
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Ok, i will try, but like i've say before, i have uninstaled another soft doing well this, uninstaled because making drain really fast my battery and making a lot of think that i not need really, i wish to found a simple cab just to lock the screen until calling or receving...
You know, i'm using the last coOkies.cab and making me really satisfied and don't wana instal too much think...
Anyway, thank you for your help
bye
hcu5 said:
ugh i have the same problem dude. the lockscreen doesnt lock during calls for some reason. well it locks then unlocks randomly. people suggest using s2u2 but it looks like sth from iphone and i dont like it. theres also pocketprotector but its paid and i cant be bothered paying 15$
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Hi,
thanks for reply, i have tried s2u2, but doing too much think and just locking for the cab to lock the screen.. also 'cause i use coOkies.cab some cab can make problem for this in fact, cOOkies tab offer also some stuff about lockscreen and can make some problem issue using another cab...
not easy..
thx.
How hard would it be to make a app that runs in the back round that works like the new ipod's touch screen rotation feature,
For those who don't known you place a finger and thumb at opposite ends in the corners so top left, bottom right, and twist right or left, and the screen rotates that direction in which you twist, i and im sure others will find this great to have, i normally have screen rotation off, but sometimes need it for messaging and internet etc.
as you can see in this little apple video here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZnSKvMP14A
Depends on the phone hardware...
But, in my opinion a useless feature. But then again a normally use the double tap to zoom on the browser.
Im not on about zooming, im on about rotating the screen, with out having to go back and turn it on and off from the home screen lol.
evilkorn said:
Depends on the phone hardware...
But, in my opinion a useless feature. But then again a normally use the double tap to zoom on the browser.
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Did you even bother to read the OP or even the the thread's topic? He's talking about screen rotation not zooming.
I love how people declare ideas and apps as "useless" just because *they* wouldn't use it.
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I'd like this feature too. I dont like switching rotation on and off, but i sometimes need too. Having it off, and use fingers to rotate would be a good solution.
Trouble in programming this is prolly that it is hard to not let it collide with other apps. (what if another app uses this multi-touch-gesture?) whitelisting apps is an option at this point in time, cause i dont know of very much apps that use this gesture, but they could become more popular with all the new multitouch devices out there
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Did you even bother to read the OP or even the the thread's topic? He's talking about screen rotation not zooming.
I love how people declare ideas and apps as "useless" just because *they* wouldn't use it.
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Maybe you misunderstood what he meant. The way I understand it, he only mentioned the zooming with double-tap to signal that he doesn't even use multi-touch to zoom within the browser; henceforth, he finds the idea of multi-touch rotation useless.
And to be totally honest, I find it useless too. The only reason the ipod nano has multi-touch rotation, that I can guess, is because they couldn't fit an accelerometer in such a small space and refused to change the dimensions. Either that, or just something else to cut their costs and make more of a profit.
Id love to see something like this. I too keep auto rotation off, but being able to rotate with a simple gesture would be awesome!
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I would also like this very much.
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I would also like this very much.
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Me too ....
nolageek said:
Did you even bother to read the OP or even the the thread's topic? He's talking about screen rotation not zooming.
I love how people declare ideas and apps as "useless" just because *they* wouldn't use it.
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Did YOU even read my post?! I said why it might not work, then proceeded to post MY OPINION!
I could have said it worse like: Don't be lazy and leave it on and rotate the damn phone with your hand.
That ipod touch probably just does rotate by touch because it doesn't have an accelerometer to know when you've physically rotated the device.
Now a way of disabling accelerometer auto rotation would be nice for when I want to do something like read an eBook while laying on my side.
Actually, the iPod Touch DOES have an accelerometer, as does the new nano. The new nano uses its accelerometer to detect when you shake it for "shuffle on shake." WHy they couldn't use it to detect orientation of the iPod, I have no clue. But the iPod touch DOES do auto-rotate. I know this b/c my 1st gen touch does this for many of its apps (which I hardly use.... it's a glorified mac and apple tv remote now).
I think this could be a useful app. I don't like certain apps to rotate and as such turn auto-rotate on and off, but with auto-rotate off I sometimes wish I COULD rotate the screen in certain instances. Something like this would be pretty nice. It'd have to be light on the cpu though and not collide with other gestures (the only gesture I have seen on my Droid X that are multi-touch is the pinch-zoom.... all the other gestures are single touch ones) that are multi-touch.
I'd say go for developing this app. I'd be pretty cool PLUS you'd learn alot about how android handles gestures and such.
I would really like such a feature, iam actually working on an app/widget that turns the screen manually, because just sometimes you need it landscape but dont want to activate the auto-orientation...
I am with this idea 100%. I find the auto-rotate waaaay too sensitive & it rotates constantly when I don't want it to. So I turned mine off. But there are rare occasions when you want to rotate (like looking at pictures) and I have to go into a widget to turn it on & turn it back off after.
A manual rotate would be nice.
PS - A sensitivity thing for rotation would be nice too - ie, only rotate when you're 85 degrees + sideways instead of rotating with like a 15 degree tilt.
Mine will auto rotate at times (my g1 and iPod touch do this too btw) when I pull minor G's while driving (like hairpin u-turns or simply having fun in the curves ). Then again, these maneuvers are ones that can't be pulled in your generic automatic or road boat.
Wrx's & STi's: fooling accelerometers daily
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add my name to the list of people that would love to see this!
Hmm.. Would be a fun project to start learning android programming...
Now if only I had some time to spare...
This feature would be very useful, why?
- Auto-rotate : since it's called "auto", that means you can not control your screen with rotation. I usually lie on the bed and use the phone for reading, web browsing and I really don't want my screen from keeping rotating. You would say I should distable the auto-rotation, right? But I don't wanna keep doing that.
A manual gesture would be really nice and very USEFUL!
I think the sensitivity option would really be the best. Not saying I wouldn't use the finger way but I think the "auto" rotation should just work better.
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My problems are that it is to slow and that when i am lying on my side surfing it auto rotates.
I am actually trying to find a way to switch it manually but all ways i try wont work
Hello to all, am going to ask if anybody of you have a problem in TPs Touch Capacitive Pad? I used this app
Nav Debug Tool by HTC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2511016
To check out this multi touch stuff in my TP (though I know before that it has a multi touch feature, I just want to check if it's working properly) but it seems that the pad has a problem. The problem was sometimes, it can register my touch and most of the time, not.. sometimes it can register the multi touch, and most of the time, not .. even the nav wheel has a problem which doesn't register the rotation most of the time. Is this a common problem in TPs or even Diamond??
I even use the signed os WM6.1 but still has a problem.. so I wonder if any of you guys having the same..
thanks!
It's been happening to me for about a year already as well. Seems like it's just defective. It resets thought after sleeping the phone and waking it. I'm not sure if it was because I used to use Sensor scroll or it's a little scratched up.
I hear the d-pad was a good conceptual idea but that is about it... I personally don't use the d-pad at all because of this, much less any of the buttons (to include the power button). On the other hand, from what I can tell about the d-pad "sensor" from using the NDT(Nav debug tool), it does seem pick up points but it seems to not like repetitive touches. It almost seems like the sensor overloads the processor to the point that it fails in terms of keeping up with the actual location that is being touched; if that makes any sense?
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I hear the d-pad was a good conceptual idea but that is about it... I personally don't use the d-pad at all because of this, much less any of the buttons (to include the power button). On the other hand, from what I can tell about the d-pad "sensor" from using the NDT(Nav debug tool), it does seem pick up points but it seems to not like repetitive touches. It almost seems like the sensor overloads the processor to the point that it fails in terms of keeping up with the actual location that is being touched; if that makes any sense?
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that made sense but why would HTC permit a buggy front pad???
You know, it seems many phone brands/cooperations come under fire due to lack of something or another; maybe proof of concept? Perhaps the debug tool is to blame? Or even the sensor degradation over time? One can only speculate so far before it becomes a volatile thought... Again, I point out the idea being good, conceptually. So, I don't know where that exactly puts us as being end users? Then again, I've never really had a decent experience with phones, much less with newer phones; my thoughts and expectations may be slightly on the negative/lesser side of things because of this.
I have the same issue. I used to use GScroll to flip pages in e-books, but finally it got so buggy I had to dump it (other GScroll features were almost impossible to use). I've used NavPad DBug. What I do find is that running the compact heaps command of SK Tools will temporarily fix things, at least most of the time. When I have NavPad DBug running, if it's logging compact heaps will clear out the traces. Somehow or other, it cleans things out when the nav pad gets confused or overloaded with inputs. But even compact heaps doesn't work all the time.
It would be sweet if the capacitative area really worked, but unfortunately it appears to get worn out about the time that you figure out all the things you can do with it. Lol.
Edit: I wonder if the device has problems distinguishing a single touch of your finger vs. several touches. That could really screw up the function of the device.
this may not explain all screen issues, but it may explain the issue of the screen freezing and also the issue of it reacting on its own. i believe that this screen is highly sensitive. my current theory is that dirtiness and dullness cause screen lag. this can result in freezing, but i think more commonly what happens is for it to cause a delay in the screens responsiveness. so lets say you touch the screen and it doesnt respond right away. so you tap the screen again, and it does respond. but maybe its responding to the first time you touched it, and then you exit out of that screen or do something else, and forget that you touched the screen again. but the phone remembers and responds, and the phone does something odd, seemingly on its own. now remember this is just a theory of mine, and i am no expert on touchscreens. it just occurred to me that this could be a possibility, because i cleaned my screen really good and the screen seemed a good bit more responsive than usual. feel free to share your thoughts and opinions on this.
There are times when a greasy/wet touchscreen will misbehave, but I think the majority of our touchscreen problems stem from a buggy driver which tends to crash during low memory conditions.
yea i definitely think its just a buggy phone. wish it was as simple as keeping it clean, but i have these problems even when clean sometimes. its not a deal breaker though, at least not for me.
i just wish we could have custom lock screens or AOSP lock screen that wouldn't break the damn auto-rotate.
i know this is a different subject than my op, but i have a question. i converted several apps to system apps. two browsers, opera mobile and dolphin mini, dolphin to replace my stock browser and opera for desktop browsing, as well as a volume control app and a few others. i use an app called optimize android toolbox to clean my cache. before converting these apps to system, they all stored a cache. now, opera and dolphin dont. the volume control app still does though. i dont think its a problem, it just perplexes me. any possible explanation for this?
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yea i definitely think its just a buggy phone. wish it was as simple as keeping it clean, but i have these problems even when clean sometimes. its not a deal breaker though, at least not for me.
i just wish we could have custom lock screens or AOSP lock screen that wouldn't break the damn auto-rotate.
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Ayoteddy got us the aosp lock and the puzzle lock, using it right now no prob.
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When it's cold mine never responds.
I put a screen protector on my phone and I haven't had any touch screen problems since. Might just be a coincidence, though.
before i got this phone, i read a review that said only one android phone has a more functional lock screen than the sidekick. of course, that statement is based on phones with stock roms, but still, thats definitely saying something. i like the stock lockscreen a lot. i like the media room lockscreen widget. tried other music players with lockscreen widgets, but they take up the whole screen. then you have to exit the widget to unlock the screen. plus you can slide down to unlock or slide up to launch an app. thats pretty tight.
I'm not saying the stock lock screen isn't clever. It's really is quite cool... when it works.
So often I've had to struggle to unlock the phone because the screen was lagging badly. Or the home screen has come up for a second before the lock screen. This is especially a problem when text messages come in, and often result in my phone doing crazy crap in my pocket. Next time I pull it out I discover that it's gone to CNN, changed my brightness, turned on bluetooth, etc.