How hard would it be to make a app that runs in the back round that works like the new ipod's touch screen rotation feature,
For those who don't known you place a finger and thumb at opposite ends in the corners so top left, bottom right, and twist right or left, and the screen rotates that direction in which you twist, i and im sure others will find this great to have, i normally have screen rotation off, but sometimes need it for messaging and internet etc.
as you can see in this little apple video here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZnSKvMP14A
Depends on the phone hardware...
But, in my opinion a useless feature. But then again a normally use the double tap to zoom on the browser.
Im not on about zooming, im on about rotating the screen, with out having to go back and turn it on and off from the home screen lol.
evilkorn said:
Depends on the phone hardware...
But, in my opinion a useless feature. But then again a normally use the double tap to zoom on the browser.
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Did you even bother to read the OP or even the the thread's topic? He's talking about screen rotation not zooming.
I love how people declare ideas and apps as "useless" just because *they* wouldn't use it.
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I'd like this feature too. I dont like switching rotation on and off, but i sometimes need too. Having it off, and use fingers to rotate would be a good solution.
Trouble in programming this is prolly that it is hard to not let it collide with other apps. (what if another app uses this multi-touch-gesture?) whitelisting apps is an option at this point in time, cause i dont know of very much apps that use this gesture, but they could become more popular with all the new multitouch devices out there
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Did you even bother to read the OP or even the the thread's topic? He's talking about screen rotation not zooming.
I love how people declare ideas and apps as "useless" just because *they* wouldn't use it.
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Maybe you misunderstood what he meant. The way I understand it, he only mentioned the zooming with double-tap to signal that he doesn't even use multi-touch to zoom within the browser; henceforth, he finds the idea of multi-touch rotation useless.
And to be totally honest, I find it useless too. The only reason the ipod nano has multi-touch rotation, that I can guess, is because they couldn't fit an accelerometer in such a small space and refused to change the dimensions. Either that, or just something else to cut their costs and make more of a profit.
Id love to see something like this. I too keep auto rotation off, but being able to rotate with a simple gesture would be awesome!
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I would also like this very much.
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I would also like this very much.
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Me too ....
nolageek said:
Did you even bother to read the OP or even the the thread's topic? He's talking about screen rotation not zooming.
I love how people declare ideas and apps as "useless" just because *they* wouldn't use it.
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Did YOU even read my post?! I said why it might not work, then proceeded to post MY OPINION!
I could have said it worse like: Don't be lazy and leave it on and rotate the damn phone with your hand.
That ipod touch probably just does rotate by touch because it doesn't have an accelerometer to know when you've physically rotated the device.
Now a way of disabling accelerometer auto rotation would be nice for when I want to do something like read an eBook while laying on my side.
Actually, the iPod Touch DOES have an accelerometer, as does the new nano. The new nano uses its accelerometer to detect when you shake it for "shuffle on shake." WHy they couldn't use it to detect orientation of the iPod, I have no clue. But the iPod touch DOES do auto-rotate. I know this b/c my 1st gen touch does this for many of its apps (which I hardly use.... it's a glorified mac and apple tv remote now).
I think this could be a useful app. I don't like certain apps to rotate and as such turn auto-rotate on and off, but with auto-rotate off I sometimes wish I COULD rotate the screen in certain instances. Something like this would be pretty nice. It'd have to be light on the cpu though and not collide with other gestures (the only gesture I have seen on my Droid X that are multi-touch is the pinch-zoom.... all the other gestures are single touch ones) that are multi-touch.
I'd say go for developing this app. I'd be pretty cool PLUS you'd learn alot about how android handles gestures and such.
I would really like such a feature, iam actually working on an app/widget that turns the screen manually, because just sometimes you need it landscape but dont want to activate the auto-orientation...
I am with this idea 100%. I find the auto-rotate waaaay too sensitive & it rotates constantly when I don't want it to. So I turned mine off. But there are rare occasions when you want to rotate (like looking at pictures) and I have to go into a widget to turn it on & turn it back off after.
A manual rotate would be nice.
PS - A sensitivity thing for rotation would be nice too - ie, only rotate when you're 85 degrees + sideways instead of rotating with like a 15 degree tilt.
Mine will auto rotate at times (my g1 and iPod touch do this too btw) when I pull minor G's while driving (like hairpin u-turns or simply having fun in the curves ). Then again, these maneuvers are ones that can't be pulled in your generic automatic or road boat.
Wrx's & STi's: fooling accelerometers daily
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add my name to the list of people that would love to see this!
Hmm.. Would be a fun project to start learning android programming...
Now if only I had some time to spare...
This feature would be very useful, why?
- Auto-rotate : since it's called "auto", that means you can not control your screen with rotation. I usually lie on the bed and use the phone for reading, web browsing and I really don't want my screen from keeping rotating. You would say I should distable the auto-rotation, right? But I don't wanna keep doing that.
A manual gesture would be really nice and very USEFUL!
I think the sensitivity option would really be the best. Not saying I wouldn't use the finger way but I think the "auto" rotation should just work better.
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My problems are that it is to slow and that when i am lying on my side surfing it auto rotates.
I am actually trying to find a way to switch it manually but all ways i try wont work
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as of now, auto rotate for the JF updates and the droidsans app only allow us to rotate to the left.
is it at all possible to make it so the phone can be rotated to the right as well for us left handers? the blackberry storm has this feature and i thought it was pretty cool but im not sure if the g1 can support it.
I'd like to see something like that, too. Mostly because the phone won't stand on the left side on its own, but it will on the right.
yup, i like this idea
I'd quite like a way to lock (a toggle) the rotation too if at all possible, possibly from the menu, or maybe by pressing the camera button.
Use? When using at an angle such as laying in bed and you really want landscape mode without having the keyboard open. Also when you lay the g1 flat on a desk it can switch to portrait by accident.
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yup, i like this idea
I'd quite like a way to lock (a toggle) the rotation too if at all possible, possibly from the menu, or maybe by pressing the camera button.
Use? When using at an angle such as laying in bed and you really want landscape mode without having the keyboard open. Also when you lay the g1 flat on a desk it can switch to portrait by accident.
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that is an excellent suggestion!
erasedgod said:
I'd like to see something like that, too. Mostly because the phone won't stand on the left side on its own, but it will on the right.
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lol thanks for pointing this out. what a pos
yeah this would be a nice adition, but what i would like more is a keyboard over ride that forces the screen to landscape mode when he keyboard is open.
i would LOVE to see this happining on the G1 it would awesome !
i would like JF to see this and say what he thinks, and if its possible to do it, please do it =D
IIRC this isn't possible. When they originally unlocked the auto rotate feature it was stated that the os only had coordinates for 0 and 90 degrees. They would have to make extensive edits to the source to add 180 and 270 degrees for orientation. I know, that's a bummer dude.
Well I just found an app that rotates both ways... It's a game called "Wordzor Lite"
I'm pretty sure this shows that it CAN work but i have no idea how hard it would be to incorporate it into the home screen and such...
left-handed people are evil!
golferguy17 said:
Well I just found an app that rotates both ways... It's a game called "Wordzor Lite"
I'm pretty sure this shows that it CAN work but i have no idea how hard it would be to incorporate it into the home screen and such...
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No one is saying that it's not technically possible, we're just saying that the current state of autorotate is easy because Android is already set up to rotate when you open the keyboard, whereas there is nothing already in place for rotating the other direction.
erasedgod said:
I'd like to see something like that, too. Mostly because the phone won't stand on the left side on its own, but it will on the right.
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hey, you have made my day! i never realized that..
Hey guys. Not that I would ever want to take anything away from the amazing work of people like JesusFreke, and as someone who has never posted before...
Just to say that I am working on a slightly more stable auto-rotate patch for the kernel with exactly that feature of auto-rotate left. My intention is to make this selectable in three ways.
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Hey guys. Not that I would ever want to take anything away from the amazing work of people like JesusFreke, and as someone who has never posted before...
Just to say that I am working on a slightly more stable auto-rotate patch for the kernel with exactly that feature of auto-rotate left. My intention is to make this selectable in three ways.
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Left only
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i know of several apps on the marketplace that already have this feature but would it be much different to get the whole OS to rotate?
...i'm guessing it would lol
Actually, its not so different. The bigest problem is stability. Trying to patch in a deliberate action for autorotate feature. Like people have said elsewhere it can be a little bit too sensitive. Should have first version available next week (unless I manage to brick it!)
Anything people want to chip in about autorotate whilst I'm patching it? I am not the worlds greatest programmer but I can usually get there.
I was just reading this thread and what came to mind was the Bubble app on the market. It does this but of course this is on a much smaller scale and not across the entire OS of the phone.
But the nice thing is that you can turn the phone end over end and the bubble rotates with it. Not sure if the Dev for that app is on here, or if you wanted to email him to see if he could provide a bit of insight to possibly assist.
right. i am still working hard on this. any suggestions as to what deliberate action you would like to force rotate? I have thought about an up/down flick then turn the direction you want.
the only problem with patching four-directional autorotate is that it creates interesting problems of when it is perfectly still, it still manages to rotate itself. ie, i left it still on the desk and it was happily rotating itself.
any suggestions from coders. also, is there a quicker way to compile than to recompile the whole stack? ie selective compiling?
cheers.
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right. i am still working hard on this. any suggestions as to what deliberate action you would like to force rotate? I have thought about an up/down flick then turn the direction you want.
the only problem with patching four-directional autorotate is that it creates interesting problems of when it is perfectly still, it still manages to rotate itself. ie, i left it still on the desk and it was happily rotating itself.
any suggestions from coders. also, is there a quicker way to compile than to recompile the whole stack? ie selective compiling?
cheers.
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instead of having a force rotate, can you implement a Lock Rotate instead?
That way you can rotate to the desired position, and lock it.
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instead of having a force rotate, can you implement a Lock Rotate instead?
That way you can rotate to the desired position, and lock it.
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or i could just do that! that would actually be a lot easier to code
I thought it might ~_^
How is the patch applied? if you need a tester give me a pm as i'd be interested in testing and providing feedback
~DF
If a jailbroken iphone can support landscape, why can't windows phone 7 support it?
It's about UI design, not jailbreak.
I don't understand why you'd want the home tiles to orient in landscape. Just so you can say that the OS can do it, or is there some way that would grant additional usability?
I can see how it would be nice to have landscape... especially when leaving a program that was in landscape. I use A to B turn by turn navigation all the time and throw it in landscape... leaving the program while its in landscape in the car holder and switching to check something and having to put the phone back in portrait so I can read the tiles properly is annoying at best.. not a deal breaker by any means though.
Also it would be nice to have it for devices with a landscape-style keyboards, so that the UI can completely compensate for the orientation of the device.
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Also it would be nice to have it for devices with a landscape-style keyboards, so that the UI can completely compensate for the orientation of the device.
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I have a physical keyboard device and I gotta say I don't ever think "oh MAN, if only there was more landscape support". It mostly supports it in the right areas as it is.
But really, it probably wouldn't be too hard to implement, and they could even make it so you could turn it on and off in the settings, as to not ever bother those who don't want landscape.
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I don't understand why you'd want the home tiles to orient in landscape. Just so you can say that the OS can do it, or is there some way that would grant additional usability?
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when i unlock my phone by sliding out the keyboard, i don't want to be forced to rotate my head 90 degrees to figure out which tile to tap.
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But really, it probably wouldn't be too hard to implement, and they could even make it so you could turn it on and off in the settings, as to not ever bother those who don't want landscape.
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I agreed, having it as optional per setting controls wouldnt be bad. Consider it showing some love to the WP7 physical keyboard users. To be honestly its the first thing that cross my mind when I slided a WP7 device open and the tiles didnt adjust.
***Not a deal breaker at all...
I was browsing through all the garbage on my phone with Titanium Backup and found "Gesture 2.2.2"
Is this just for things like pinch to zoom?
This is a really cool feature actually.. However its not on the US version. This was one of the selling points for the Optimus 2X. I believe it was imbedded in the LG's andriod overlay.
It basically uses the accelerometer to FF/RW, scroll text, and move app short cuts to different home screens by simply tilting, or tapping the phone. You could even hang up by simply turning the phone over (screen facing gound).
I hear there is a CM Rom that will use this to set up gesture/shortcuts to open apps from the lock screen. This will be even more useful especially when driving.
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This is a really cool feature actually.. However its not on the US version. This was one of the selling points for the Optimus 2X. I believe it was imbedded in the LG's andriod overlay.
It basically uses the accelerometer to FF/RW, scroll text, and move app short cuts to different home screens by simply tilting, or tapping the phone. You could even hang up by simply turning the phone over (screen facing gound).
I hear there is a CM Rom that will use this to set up gesture/shortcuts to open apps from the lock screen. This will be even more useful especially when driving.
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Yes, and it is really dope but if we didn't have a way to access it I don't get why it would be on our phone.
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Hello, I'm new to this forum. I left the Blackberry (Bold 9900) world and jumped on board here. So far I LOVE my Mytouch 4g Slide!
I could have sworn that my "home" screen and "all apps" screen would rotate when I turned it sideways without having to slide my phone open. Now it doesn't. I first noticed it when I opened up my Netflix app. I turned the phone sideways to search for a movie and the screen would not rotate. It only rotated when the movie played.
Do your phones rotate on the home screen/all apps screen without sliding it open?
Please help, it's bugging the heck out of me.
Thanks
Whoops I thanked you lol.
Some apps allow landscape mode, and some don't.
In addition, auto rotate allows your sensor to make the screen turn when it's on its side. Check the settings. (Settings > Display, I think). Hope this helps.
mine actually rotates when the keyboard is closed and doesn't when the keyboard is open, which is quite logical and the correct behaviour i think
Does your MT4GS do this too???
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mine actually rotates when the keyboard is closed and doesn't when the keyboard is open, which is quite logical and the correct behaviour i think
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That's strange. I wonder why that is. So yours rotates the home screen and "all apps" screen when turned sideways?
I am sure that my auto-rotate feature works because when I open certain apps, say, the Gallery where I have all my pictures stored, I can turn it sideways to the left or right and it will rotate accordingly.
It is only when I try to rotate the Home screen and All Apps screen that I could have sworn would rotate too.
Any help on getting this back the way it should would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Doo Wop Mario
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Whoops I thanked you lol.
Some apps allow landscape mode, and some don't.
In addition, auto rotate allows your sensor to make the screen turn when it's on its side. Check the settings. (Settings > Display, I think). Hope this helps.
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I checked my Auto Rotate settings and they've always been on. I unchecked it and then rebooted and then checked it again and it still didn't work. Not sure why.
Nope, if you're on the stock ROM (As far as I remember, considering I haven't been on stock since the first ROM came out and I've refused to use the stock launcher anyways) orientation won't change on the "Home" screen unless you slide the keyboard open. Correct me if I'm wrong. Personally, I turn rotation off because it sometimes gets annoying. You could always try a different launcher though, I'm pretty sure ADW and Go Launcher rotate on any keyboard condition.
The app Orientation Control works well if you want your display to stay in a particular orientation all the time. Costs a buck or two in the market, and the main thing it messes up is the camera when you want to take a picture, but you can always switch it back to 'auto rotate' in those cases.
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Nope, if you're on the stock ROM (As far as I remember, considering I haven't been on stock since the first ROM came out and I've refused to use the stock launcher anyways) orientation won't change on the "Home" screen unless you slide the keyboard open. Correct me if I'm wrong. Personally, I turn rotation off because it sometimes gets annoying. You could always try a different launcher though, I'm pretty sure ADW and Go Launcher rotate on any keyboard condition.
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Yeah, I'm on stock ROM. I like the rotation feature for now, and was just wondering why it would work on some screens and not on others. I thought that was a default feature.
At least I know I'm not losing my mind. I really did believe it used to rotate the Home screen and All Apps screen without sliding it open.
I guess one thing I can try is going into a T-Mobile store and testing out their phone there to see if it rotates.
Thanks everyone!
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Yeah, I'm on stock ROM. I like the rotation feature for now, and was just wondering why it would work on some screens and not on others. I thought that was a default feature.
At least I know I'm not losing my mind. I really did believe it used to rotate the Home screen and All Apps screen without sliding it open.
I guess one thing I can try is going into a T-Mobile store and testing out their phone there to see if it rotates.
Thanks everyone!
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Never did for me in the stock Sense launcher on the app drawer or home screens, unless sliding out the keyboard. I made a reference to that in the tv-out thread back when I first got the phone in august.
It works everywhere else, and you could just use another launcher to have it happen on those two screens.
I'd like to enable that functionality in Rosie - i'm not sure why it's like that and it's puzzled me for months.
I dunno, personally, I turn off auto rotation all the time. If I want to view anything in landscape, I just slide the keyboard open. Just my preference, though.
I really like a free app called auto rotate switch. It gives you a button in the status bar that you can click to turn on and off auto rotation. I've used it since my first android phone, but have never used it with this one.
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Just got a new Mate 8 this week, and after not having a smart phone to use since 2010, I'm really liking what I'm seeing so far with my limited exposure . . . even fine with the stock EMUI interface too.
One thing I noticed right away was the phone's inability to rotate a full 360°. Left and right horizontal rotation is fine, as well as the normal vertical, but try to go inverted, and the screen did not rotate at all for the home screen or for any app I tried. Funny, because I actually had a Chinese phone back in 2008 called an i9, which had the same rotation issue for only the inverted position.
I tried turning auto rotation On and Off, rebooting, etc., but no help. I did not try any hard reset on the phone, but I did go to Google Play and installed a rotation app called Set Orientation. When running, using the app's Automatic (full) rotation setting, the phone now rotates properly to the inverted position on the home screen as well as the few apps I tried so far. This made me happy that the hardware doesn't seem to be the issue with it not rotating inverted.
I did a forum search for rotation issues, and did not see any threads for this specific issue.
So has anyone else had this partial rotation issue and maybe an easy fix for it?
Also, I was wondering if there might be any downsides to having to always rely on an app like this, as maybe it won't always be compatible with other apps which may need to have the screen rotate to the inverted position?
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~ Craig ~
If I seem to remember correctly, even the 6p didn't rotate a full 360 degrees. I actually think it is app dependant. I use this rotation control.. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pranavpandey.rotation
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tdamocles said:
If I seem to remember correctly, even the 6p didn't rotate a full 360 degrees. I actually think it is app dependant. I use this rotation control.. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pranavpandey.rotation
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Yes, I'm already using a rotation control app that has worked to allow inverted vertical rotation too, but I'm wondering why you believe it's not a bug, but possibly only about app dependency if it does full 360° rotation ?
I have to admit I haven't been too well up to date on Android devices and apps for at least 4 years now, and I know some apps want to prevent certain screen orientation settings, forcing the view in certain modes. However, it seems like some software setting is out of kilter, or even a bug to me for this particular partial rotation issue, not just about app dependency.
For instance, why would the home screen, with auto rotation turned on in the settings, allow for rotation to both horizontal positions, the normal portrait position, but not allow for an inverted portrait rotation?
Also, for even the internet browser apps, which from what I recall for several other Android tablets I owned years ago, they would all allow rotation to all screen positions for 360° when rotation was turned on, with this phone it wouldn't allow inverted portrait rotation, that is, not until I installed the Set Orientation app and used it. Do Chrome and Firefox for Android typically not allow for inverted portrait viewing unless forced by an orientation app or rooting the device to change system settings?
I did find that using the Set Orientation app it interferes with the factory installed camera app display when using the phone in either horizontal position, so I need to disable it when using the camera to take landscape images.
It isn't a huge issue, just a minor inconvenience (along with a couple others) which I came across but can certainly live with, because I'm really enjoying the phone so far for the most part.
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Look at the phone/dialer App. I don't even think that allows any horizontal rotation or full rotation. Almost all lock screens on different phones don't allow rotation either unless you have a custom ROM installed. I just don't think it's a bug . I think it's done like that for a reason, good or bad. I think it may be a phone restriction because I think my Nexus 9 allows full rotation on some apps. You just might have to live with it.
I think the home screen doesn't rotate 360 degrees because who views phone stuff upside down?
For example, I had 360 rotation turned on for my phone/dialer app and if your laying down the App will go inverted . If the proximity sensor isn't quick enough and doesn't turn off your screen, you might hit the hangup button like I did one time.
Look, Netflix is landscape only.
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tdamocles said:
I think the home screen doesn't rotate 360 degrees because who views phone stuff upside down?
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On a device with small and relatively symmetrical bevels on the top and bottom like the Mate 8, or my previous LG G4, it's very handy to just pick up the phone and use it, irrelevant of the orientation.
I never use the power button and/or fingerprint scanner so a simple double (or on the Mate 8 usually triple) tap wakes up the device and hey presto, use it as it is. Is it the "right way round"? Great. Was it upside down? Does not matter, use it like this for now as well.
So for that reason I would also like to have an upside down possibility (haven't installed xposed yet as I find the need for it not great enough, for now). Other than that I find not a lot of real disadvantages of having the possibility anyway.
Note: not all apps worked as planned upside down but the dialer, homescreen, browsing, etc. made no difference regarding holding the phone