Title pretty much says it. I even added two different faces angles for recognition. I'd go as far as saying seldom does it work.
Anyone else having this problem? Anyone know of any thing to do to improve it?
Try taking a scan with a mask on
Face unlock on phones with just camera is not safe.
Since you can use a pic of yourself to unlock the device, so never use face unlock unless the device uses more advanced technology to scan your face.
ewingr said:
Title pretty much says it. I even added two different faces angles for recognition. I'd go as far as saying seldom does it work.
Anyone else having this problem? Anyone know of any thing to do to improve it?
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Are you doing a scan with the phone straight in front of your face and another with the phone held about chest height?
Jake.S said:
Face unlock on phones with just camera is not safe.
Since you can use a pic of yourself to unlock the device, so never use face unlock unless the device uses more advanced technology to scan your face.
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I've actually tried this on the N20U and can't get it to unlock with a picture.
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Are you doing a scan with the phone straight in front of your face and another with the phone held about chest height?
I've actually tried this on the N20U and can't get it to unlock with a picture.
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Then you aren't doing it right. It's been proven with devices with just camera to unlock can be bypassed with picture of yourself.
Here is an example video of proof:
https://youtu.be/_L_UFY3Bg74
Here's one with s10 face unlock bypass.
https://youtu.be/BGgQ9woZQOg this one is even with a video.
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Then you aren't doing it right. It's been proven with devices with just camera to unlock can be bypassed with picture of yourself.
Here is an example video of proof:
https://youtu.be/_L_UFY3Bg74
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I know it's been done with some devices, I'm just saying that I tried it with this device and didn't get it to unlock.
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I know it's been done with some devices, I'm just saying that I tried it with this device and didn't get it to unlock.
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Because you probably didn't do it right.
airmaxx23 said:
Are you doing a scan with the phone straight in front of your face and another with the phone held about chest height?
I've actually tried this on the N20U and can't get it to unlock with a picture.
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Yes, I did the two scans.
I am not expecting it to work when using a mask.
Sounds like most folks are not having issues with it. I will try a new pair of scans
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Because you probably didn't do it right.
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Taking a picture and holding it in front of the phone isn't difficult, I even got the vibration when it didn't recognize the face. Have you tried it?
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Taking a picture and holding it in front of the phone isn't difficult, I even got the vibration when it didn't recognize the face. Have you tried it?
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No, but to how unbox therapy did he had to move picture forward and backwards at the phone until it recognised the picture and then unlocked the device.
So make sure pic you got isn't to dark and has well lit face and that camera can see picture well, otherwise it won't work.
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Jake.S said:
No, but to how unbox therapy did he had to move picture forward and backwards at the phone until it recognised the picture and then unlocked the device.
So make sure pic you got isn't to dark and has well lit face and that camera can see picture well, otherwise it won't work.
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I've probably spent about 20 minutes trying to unlock it taking several different pictures with 3 devices and at least 50 total attempts and I haven't gotten it to unlock once. It may be possible on these but it seems like it isn't going to be very easy. Try it and see what happens.
Facial rec wouldn't be of any concern if only the Smart Location worked consistently. It fails more often that it works.
I saw a suggestion on older devices to put the pin on the location map in 4 places around the home. But the current softward doesn't allow that. At least I couldn't get it to work.
Then there's finger print unlock. That's a big pain too.
This issue is really annoying. The suggestions to fix never work. i.e. taking new pics, or high/low light pics. I've tried everything to no avail. (OneUI 3.0 Android 11, N986B)
Bullsclarinet said:
Well, I though that photos do not work to unlock the phone, I have an Iphone and face id there works just with my face, and it is always in attention mode. So if I do not look on the screen it doesn't work. Seems prety advanced to me.
p.s I don't know about samsung
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On iPhones its different technology for face unlock. They use infrared or some face scanner technology. While Android phones with software facial unlock by using normal camera isn't as secure than what Face ID is on a iPhone or an Samsung galaxy s9/note9 has got.
Agree, but it shouldn't be SO terrible. It works pretty flawlessly on Huawei P30 Pro, but then can't make it too tricky to send private details to the PRC
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For those running ICS how do you like it? I think it's a "nice" feature, but IRL it's pretty useless. You have to hold your phone way to far from your face (and look pretty dumb), with the front facing camera not being centered it's pretty hard to get a clean angle and overall it's way too long to unlock your phone.
Gesture FTW
I agree its cool to play with but in day to day life it is kind of a pain in the butt
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At least at the current state I think face unlock is nothing but a gimmick.
Taking pic at low light initially = 0/10 worked in low light / 2/10 worked in normal light
Taking pic at normal light conditions = 0/10 worked in low light / 6/10 worked in normal light
I just use it to brag about ICS to my friends. They get amazed by it.
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I haven't flashed any of the ICS ROMs yet, but I've been using the app Visidon from the Market and it's very practical.
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For those running ICS how do you like it? I think it's a "nice" feature, but IRL it's pretty useless. You have to hold your phone way to far from your face (and look pretty dumb), with the front facing camera not being centered it's pretty hard to get a clean angle and overall it's way too long to unlock your phone.
Gesture FTW
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Security of face unlock is risible at the current state. Might as well have a simple PIN or no security at all. Until it can reliably tell a picture from your real face, then it's bull....!
whats face unlock??
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whats face unlock??
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Unlocking the lock screen using the front camera to recognize your face.
Just noticed that my phone unlocks itself by scanning my irises even if I have my sun glasses on???
Maybe the scanner is too powerful I thought...so I covered one of the lenses with my hand...and tried unlocking it again...
And it did...it unlocked by scanning just one side of my face and with sun glasses on...
Maybe it is time to go back to the pin option.
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I covered one of the lenses with my hand[,] and tried unlocking it again[.]
And it did[.]
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Yup, one eye is all it needs to recognize.
Maybe it is time to go back to the pin option.
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Why? Matching just one iris is secure enough--and certainly more secure than a short PIN.
Yea just like the note 7 it works very well and fast
I love how fast the Fast Unlock feature is... but I was curious as to how secure the facial recognition technology actually is.
I did a test today with my father and my brother-in-law try to see if they could unlock the OP6 with their faces. My father and I look relatively similar and my brother-in-law, while there is no blood relation, has similar facial features.
To my surprise, the Oneplus 6 unlocked for both of them! I removed my current face profile, set it again, and have them try a second time and the phone unlocked again.
I'm going to continue to experiment with this with other friends (one's who have similar features as well as those with distinctly different features) and see if I can continue to reproduce these results.
Community: Has anyone else experimented with this? If so, what was your result?
Interesting [emoji106] will watch the thread... The technology should be similar to the oneplus 5t so maybe there your will find some more info?
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Was it not because you were near the phone and that it also saw your face when they tried to unlock it?
I never heard before that someone could have fooled the phone with face unlock.
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Yes, it's not secure. My friend picked up my phone and it unlocked. ?
Just tried it and surprising yes, it seems other people can unlock mine with their face [emoji50]
that sounds strange.
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I tested it out on my daughter and she was able to unlock it with face unlock. It's not very secure.
If you're worried about security don't use biometrics.
Without dual cameras and 3d rendering face unlock is not secure
Hmm not secure indeed on op6. I tested and keep my hand on half off my face and it still unlocks. On my 5t it works way better? Disable face unlock till issue is solved, I thought that oneplus said that face recognition was improved on op6.
Regards ysco..
Yupp, I removed it.. When my father just took the handset to admire the outer body and it unlocked within 2 seconds when he pressed unlock button.. I tried it again and it unlocked again.. So I removed this bull**** from security..
I thought , one day I will find my dad reading my sex chat.. Prevention is better the cure.. I just removed it without saying a word.. ????
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Was it not because you were near the phone and that it also saw your face when they tried to unlock it?
I never heard before that someone could have fooled the phone with face unlock.
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No, was not next to him... I locked the phone and handed it to him across the table. He pressed power and the phone scanned his face and unlocked.
I think OnePlus's "fast" face unlock is much worse than stock. It just traces out the rough geometry
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I think OnePlus's "fast" face unlock is much worse than stock. It just traces out the rough geometry
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Yeah, that's why it's so fast. It's not at all secure, more of a gimmick.
Dont care much for security....but är missed the lockscreen too much, had to dissable Face Unlock again
My dog unlocked my OP6, what does say about me? Lol, I'm one ugly mofo or my dog is one handsome poodle.
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My dog unlocked my OP6, what does say about me? Lol, I'm one ugly mofo or my dog is one handsome poodle.
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You're ugly
It seems like everyone who has replied is ok with this?
Just makes me wonder what other features and solutions are gimmicks... What else did they skimp on...
I thought OnePlus already mentioned that the face unlock is not secure.
I turned off Face Unlock because it was so fast I could never see my notifications. The fingerprint scanner works well enough for my taste.
I trained Face unlock while I use my reading glasses.
But when I am not wearing my reading glasses it never correctly notices me.
I trained it without reading glasses and not it does not know it is me when I have the reading glasses on.
Unless I am missing something face unlock is stupid, and I can not train it to unlock on my face when I am not wearing reading glasses and when I am ?
Mine recognizes me with and without my reading glasses. Never had an issue with that. Not on my 6t, 6 and 5t
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I trained Face unlock while I use my reading glasses.
But when I am not wearing my reading glasses it never correctly notices me.
I trained it without reading glasses and not it does not know it is me when I have the reading glasses on.
Unless I am missing something face unlock is stupid, and I can not train it to unlock on my face when I am not wearing reading glasses and when I am ?
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Just take a picture of your face and use that to unlock your device
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Just take a picture of your face and use that to unlock your device
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Then I got to lug a picture around, guess I can tap the picture to the selfie camera
Face unlock is also not that secure, as mike pointed out. I'd suggest avoiding it if you want to actually keep your device secure.
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Face unlock is also not that secure, as mike pointed out. I'd suggest avoiding it if you want to actually keep your device secure.
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Ok here is the thing, "I know it is not 100% secure" .... so what ?
I lose the phone the first thing I do is remotely kill the device, then call my service provider report the device is missing.
If it takes awhile for me to notice and somebody fines it sure they can take a picture of me and unlock it ?
Oh look here is a OnePlus 6 .... let me get my camera and take a picture so I can open if up ..... Oh wait who do I take the picture of ?
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Ok here is the thing, "I know it is not 100% secure" .... so what ?
I lose the phone the first thing I do is remotely kill the device, then call my service provider report the device is missing.
If it takes awhile for me to notice and somebody fines it sure they can take a picture of me and unlock it ?
Oh look here is a OnePlus 6 .... let me get my camera and take a picture so I can open if up ..... Oh wait who do I take the picture of ?
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There's also been reports of other people's faces opening up the device, so you might not even need a photo of the owners face.
AstroDigital said:
I trained Face unlock while I use my reading glasses.
But when I am not wearing my reading glasses it never correctly notices me.
I trained it without reading glasses and not it does not know it is me when I have the reading glasses on.
Unless I am missing something face unlock is stupid, and I can not train it to unlock on my face when I am not wearing reading glasses and when I am ?
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Yap same happen with me.... ?
Do your glasses cover your eyebrows?
I noticed the face unlock has no problem when I use my hand to cover half my face, but when I put my hand to cover my eyebrows, then it really doesn't recognize me.
mikex8593 said:
Just take a picture of your face and use that to unlock your device
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It never works...
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It never works...
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https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/30/oneplus-6-face-unlock-can-fooled-photo/
I haven't seen any real review of the fingerprint sensor - only comments about the position on the screen.
Since there is no face or iris detection like on the Note 9, the fingerprint sensor will have to be pretty good.
Any ideas about this?
Edit: I just found one review that says there is face detection, which is a relief if it's true. I definitely saw one report that said there was only the fingerprint, so I'm now hoping that was wrong.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMMXKKyfu4
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I haven't seen any real review of the fingerprint sensor - only comments about the position on the screen.
Since there is no face or iris detection like on the Note 9, the fingerprint sensor will have to be pretty good.
Any ideas about this?
Edit: I just found one review that says there is face detection, which is a relief if it's true. I definitely saw one report that said there was only the fingerprint, so I'm now hoping that was wrong..
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Well i hope they have improved the under screen scanner from the S10 plus because it was garbage. I actually sold my s10 plus because it was so unreliable.
There is face unlock but if it works like the s10 plus it is not secure and can be spoofed with a picture of yourself. I didnt use that feature due to this on the S10 plus and since the fingerprint scanner was trash ended up using a pin/pattern.
I didnt spend $1500 on a 2019 device to use old unlock tech lim
Iike like that.
They should have brought back the retina scanner to secure the face unlock
About 11:30 in you'll see the fingerprint sensor test. Appears flawless according to Unbox Therapy. Most people who had issues with the S10 fingerprint sensor had those issues due to the screen protectors they were using, even though they blame the phone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIn1mbgBhww
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About 11:30 in you'll see the fingerprint sensor test. Appears flawless according to Unbox Therapy. Most people who had issues with the S10 fingerprint sensor had those issues due to the screen protectors they were using, even though they blame the phone.
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I was using the factory installed screen protector on my S10 plus and the scanner was still terribly unreliable.
And Lew was not unlocking from a black screen in that video either which made a big difference on my s10 plus.
If i hit the power button to view the lock screen then unlocked it was more reliable but from a locked black screen it was less than 50% reliable.
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I was using the factory installed screen protector on my S10 plus and the scanner was still terribly unreliable.
And Lew was not unlocking from a black screen in that video either which made a big difference on my s10 plus.
If i hit the power button to view the lock screen then unlocked it was more reliable but from a locked black screen it was less than 50% reliable.
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I still think it had something to do with the Samsung screen protectors too, even though they claimed they were designed for that purpose. I do not use a screen protector at all. If anything happens to my screen it costs me 29 bucks to get a new one so I generally don't have any sensitivity issues.
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I still think it had something to do with the Samsung screen protectors too, even though they claimed they were designed for that purpose. I do not use a screen protector at all. If anything happens to my screen it costs me 29 bucks to get a new one so I generally don't have any sensitivity issues.
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It will cost me alot more than that to replace my screen here in Canada!
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I still think it had something to do with the Samsung screen protectors too, even though they claimed they were designed for that purpose. I do not use a screen protector at all. If anything happens to my screen it costs me 29 bucks to get a new one so I generally don't have any sensitivity issues.
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How do you get a $29 screen replacement?
jejb said:
How do you get a $29 screen replacement?
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Verizon insurance for 13 bucks a month. Unlimited screen repair on supported devices.
Semantics said:
Verizon insurance for 13 bucks a month. Unlimited screen repair on supported devices.
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I wish we had that here,i can get device protection from rogers but it has a deductible each time and its over 100
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Verizon insurance for 13 bucks a month. Unlimited screen repair on supported devices.
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Ah, gotcha'. When I look at that, though, I also add in the $13 a month for a total cost of $341 over 2 years, including one screen replacement. Not saying it's a ripoff or anything. I have used my insurance and was glad to have it. I just like to look at the total cost.
Many thanks for the link to that review, it puts my mind at rest.
I don't use screen protectors because I always use use a folding case - never broken a screen yet.
Face unlocking is there. But I believe it uses just the camera no special sensor. I presume
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Face unlocking is there. But I believe it uses just the camera no special sensor. I presume
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Yes so not secure at all like the S10 plus..totally useless.
They really should have left the retina scanner on the newer stuff....losing that is a problem.
force70 said:
Yes so not secure at all like the S10 plus..totally useless.
They really should have left the retina scanner on the newer stuff....losing that is a problem.
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I totally agree! I even think note 9 was hands down the best true note phone the made.
The ultrasonic FP sensor is not an improved one or 2nd gen. or something, it's the same one used in the s10 series, now placed up.
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I totally agree! I even think note 9 was hands down the best true note phone the made.
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Yes, I agree with you. I went from a nexus with it in the back as well, then the moto fingerprint reader at the base in the front to the back, and now it's going to the front again. I'm 80% sure I've disliked each transition but thelis iteration makes me the most nervous. The only thing I like about Apple is the Face ID as it's very quick. Though I don't like having my phone unlocked each time I pull it out. Plus, my work has strict security rules for keeping locked.
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The ultrasonic FP sensor is not an improved one or 2nd gen. or something, it's the same one used in the s10 series, now placed up.
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Well thats not good because it sucked on the S10 plus and is the main reason i got rid of it.
I could have a very short stay on the Note 10 plus if it is as bad....unfortunate since its an amazing device but being able to reliably and consistently unlock your device on the 1st attempt is a basic feature.
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Yes, I agree with you. I went from a nexus with it in the back as well, then the moto fingerprint reader at the base in the front to the back, and now it's going to the front again. I'm 80% sure I've disliked each transition but thelis iteration makes me the most nervous. The only thing I like about Apple is the Face ID as it's very quick. Though I don't like having my phone unlocked each time I pull it out. Plus, my work has strict security rules for keeping locked.
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Business requires it to be locked?? Omg remember the nexus with the stars back, was totally ahead of its time! I loved it. I'm actually getting use to the fingerprint and face unlock of the note, has tons of settings, and not to let it unlock after recognizing the face
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Business requires it to be locked?? Omg remember the nexus with the stars back, was totally ahead of its time! I loved it. I'm actually getting use to the fingerprint and face unlock of the note, has tons of settings, and not to let it unlock after recognizing the face
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Yes, in order for me to have work email on my phone, corporate security policy requires using a pin with 7 numbers/letters and not just 4, or using a fingerprint reader, but no face unlock. Fun stuff.
Nexus had such a great fp reader! Was pretty responsive and the same place as the note 9. Will need to get used to maybe using my thumb now?
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Yes, in order for me to have work email on my phone, corporate security policy requires using a pin with 7 numbers/letters and not just 4, or using a fingerprint reader, but no face unlock. Fun stuff.
Nexus had such a great fp reader! Was pretty responsive and the same place as the note 9. Will need to get used to maybe using my thumb now?
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Oh wow, what secrets do u have on your phone lol. I'm talking about the nexus 4 but ur right! I had the 5x and loved it !! The gestures too felt so intuitive not a gimmick.. I'm use to it already. Took like 2 days lol. I wish the punch hole was in the corner tho. But it is what it be