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U12+ Variants - Stupid Question

There are 5 different versions of this device on HTC's site:
64GB: AT&T, T-Mobile & VZW
Unlocked: 64GB & 128GB
I plan on using it solely on Verizon, but I also plan on unlocking the bootloader and rooting it. Is there any reason I should buy the VZW-specific version instead of the unlocked one? Are they all the same? How dumb is this question?

Icculus760 said:
There are 5 different versions of this device on HTC's site:
64GB: AT&T, T-Mobile & VZW
Unlocked: 64GB & 128GB
I plan on using it solely on Verizon, but I also plan on unlocking the bootloader and rooting it. Is there any reason I should buy the VZW-specific version instead of the unlocked one? Are they all the same? How dumb is this question?
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It's not a dumb question. I haven't been in the HTC game for some time, but if the different carrier softwares are anything like Samsung with the S9. The Verizon one will have VOLTE, while if you use the unlocked model on Verizon you may not have VOLTE, WiFi calling etc.
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There are no carrier variants with the U12+. The unlocked model will work on all carriers except Sprint and they only sell the unlocked version.

mrlugo88 said:
There are no carrier variants with the U12+. The unlocked model will work on all carriers except Sprint and they only sell the unlocked version.
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That's what I thought too until I saw 3 carrier specific versions on their site in addition to the two unlocked versions

Icculus760 said:
That's what I thought too until I saw 3 carrier specific versions on their site in addition to the two unlocked versions
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I think they're still unlocked versions even though they are separated. I agree though it's confusing and not best way to do it.

They are all the same phones. They are just trying to save time for those who want to make sure their phone is specific provider-certified ie VoLTE/Wi-fi Calling works - with these variants listed there's no need for explanation.

szlevi said:
They are all the same phones. They are just trying to save time for those who want to make sure their phone is specific provider-certified ie VoLTE/Wi-fi Calling works - with these variants listed there's no need for explanation.
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Can anyone verify that WiFi calling VoLTE works with AT&T

sam2c said:
Can anyone verify that WiFi calling VoLTE works with AT&T
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Unfortunately, it will not. I've chatted with them on their website twice to make sure, and they told me both Wi-Fi calling and VoLTE will not work on AT&T no matter if you choose the one marked AT&T on their website or unlocked. They also told me it's all the same phone. I think they did it that way, so people who usually don't buy phones outside of the carrier store will feel better about it.
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You: If the U12+ isn't being sold by the US carriers, why do you list 3 different models for the 3 carriers? is there any difference between those and the unlocked version?
Nathalie C.: No problem. To answer your question, the phone only comes with the unlocked version. The list of carriers that you see over it's only so people can know which ones are the main carriers the phone supports.
You: Ok thanks. So when you select one of the 4 models, AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, Unlocked... It's all the same phone?
Nathalie C.: Yes. That is correct! If you choose any of those, you'll select either way the unlocked version.
You: What about using carrier specific features like VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling? Will the unlocked be able to do that or just the AT&T version?
Santiago G.: The U12+ sadly does not support wi-fi calling trough AT&T's network, same goes for VoLTE.
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^^ that's a shame. Would have been nice if it did. Thanks for clearing that up ??

So, is this going to be similar to the process with the HTC 10? All variants were the same phone, just different firmware and software per carrier.
I'm also getting the unlocked version as I did with the HTC 10 and wanting to use it on Verizon.
Does anyone know if it is as simple as putting in your SIM and activating the unlocked U12+ and it works, or will we have to RUU to Verizon's software for the U12+ and proceed that was as we did with the HTC 10?

sam2c said:
Can anyone verify that WiFi calling VoLTE works with AT&T
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JWhetstone02 said:
So, is this going to be similar to the process with the HTC 10? All variants were the same phone, just different firmware and software per carrier.
I'm also getting the unlocked version as I did with the HTC 10 and wanting to use it on Verizon.
Does anyone know if it is as simple as putting in your SIM and activating the unlocked U12+ and it works, or will we have to RUU to Verizon's software for the U12+ and proceed that was as we did with the HTC 10?
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No... From my understanding, it's all the same unlocked phone, so no matter what carrier you have, the phone will work with whatever SIM card you put in it.

holz75 said:
No... From my understanding, it's all the same unlocked phone, so no matter what carrier you have, the phone will work with whatever SIM card you put in it.
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I understand that much, but our HTC 10 phones were all the same as well...hardware wise. But you HAD to flash the carrier software inorder to get the phone activated AND all the features offered by said carrier. That included the advanced calling features. VoLTE ViLTE and WiFi Calling for Verizon.
I guess it's just the waiting game until we start getting the U12+ in the US and everyone starts trying to activate them on Verizon (unlocked variant in particular)

JWhetstone02 said:
I understand that much, but our HTC 10 phones were all the same as well...hardware wise. But you HAD to flash the carrier software inorder to get the phone activated AND all the features offered by said carrier. That included the advanced calling features. VoLTE ViLTE and WiFi Calling for Verizon.
I guess it's just the waiting game until we start getting the U12+ in the US and everyone starts trying to activate them on Verizon (unlocked variant in particular)
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I didn't have to flash anything. I got my unlocked HTC 10 direct from HTC and inserted my previous AT&T SIM card from my M9. Everything worked including VoLTE.

holz75 said:
I didn't have to flash anything. I got my unlocked HTC 10 direct from HTC and inserted my previous AT&T SIM card from my M9. Everything worked including VoLTE.
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Exactly only the Sprint Variant for the HTC11 was different. I just switched to T-Mobile and only had to flash the Unlocked firmware and insert new SIM. I have VoLTE and WiFi calling. Im pretty sure the same will be for the U12+. Except it will already be US Unlocked, new SIM and it will be ready to go.

JWhetstone02 said:
I understand that much, but our HTC 10 phones were all the same as well...hardware wise. But you HAD to flash the carrier software inorder to get the phone activated AND all the features offered by said carrier. That included the advanced calling features. VoLTE ViLTE and WiFi Calling for Verizon.
I guess it's just the waiting game until we start getting the U12+ in the US and everyone starts trying to activate them on Verizon (unlocked variant in particular)
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the HTC 10 had a Verizon specific ROM, the U11 & U12+ do not. The U12+ only has a Unlocked model with only 1 ROM (x.xx.617.x), wifi calling wont work on Verizon. Like others stated, it doesn't matter which button you click on when ordering, you get the Unlocked model. They only do that so people know their carrier is supported.

OMJ said:
the HTC 10 had a Verizon specific ROM, the U11 & U12+ do not. The U12+ only has a Unlocked model with only 1 ROM (x.xx.617.x), wifi calling wont work on Verizon. Like others stated, it doesn't matter which button you click on when ordering, you get the Unlocked model. They only do that so people know their carrier is supported.
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You get yours, yet, @OMJ?

tetrabyt said:
You get yours, yet, @OMJ?
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Nope, skipping this one, time to move on. I'm kind of bitter about the state of HTC...
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OMJ said:
Nope, skipping this one, time to move on. I'm kind of bitter about the state of HTC...
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Well, that sucks. What are you moving on to?

tetrabyt said:
Well, that sucks. What are you moving on to?
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Not sure yet, gonna wait & see what releases in the next few months.... ie, pixel 3
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OMJ said:
Not sure yet, gonna wait & see what releases in the next few months.... ie, pixel 3
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So far, I like the 12+. It's a a shame that you will not be around.

Who has converted their TMobile to international?

If so is the guide as simple as it seems? Any issues? Is it now 100% an international? I see lots of dual SIM trays online which one is correct? Would love to pop my work sim in it.

cobrajet7 said:
If so is the guide as simple as it seems? Any issues? Is it now 100% an international? I see lots of dual SIM trays online which one is correct? Would love to pop my work sim in it.
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Have a look in here and ask. You might get answers faster.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/how-to-convert-tmobile-op7-to-t3935947

cobrajet7 said:
If so is the guide as simple as it seems? Any issues? Is it now 100% an international? I see lots of dual SIM trays online which one is correct? Would love to pop my work sim in it.
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I did this and it worked 100%. No issues whatsoever.

cobrajet7 said:
If so is the guide as simple as it seems? Any issues? Is it now 100% an international? I see lots of dual SIM trays online which one is correct? Would love to pop my work sim in it.
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Converting worked fine for me. I ordered a couple of dual-SIM trays while I was waiting for it to be unlocked. By the time my device was SIM unlocked, I had the dual-SIM trays and converting went fairly smooth. I had some minor issues with the MSM Tool recognizing my device in EDL but using the CAB drivers solved that for me. The only thing you need to be aware of, is that both SIM slots share the same IMEI. On some carriers networks, having two SIM's for the same carrier with the same IMEI will get the device flagged.

jcsww said:
Converting worked fine for me. I ordered a couple of dual-SIM trays while I was waiting for it to be unlocked. By the time my device was SIM unlocked, I had the dual-SIM trays and converting went fairly smooth. I had some minor issues with the MSM Tool recognizing my device in EDL but using the CAB drivers solved that for me. The only thing you need to be aware of, is that both SIM slots share the same IMEI. On some carriers networks, having two SIM's for the same carrier with the same IMEI will get the device flagged.
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Functionality afterward is identical to one bought from OnePlus?

cobrajet7 said:
Functionality afterward is identical to one bought from OnePlus?
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Yes. The hardware is the same. It's just SIM 1 and SIM 2 will share the same IMEI when converting from a carrier sold device where the ones sold from OnePlus will have a different IMEI for each SIM slot.

jcsww said:
Yes. The hardware is the same. It's just SIM 1 and SIM 2 will share the same IMEI when converting from a carrier sold device where the ones sold from OnePlus will have a different IMEI for each SIM slot.
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Same IMEI on say T-Mobile and Verizon won't cause problems will it?

cobrajet7 said:
Same IMEI on say T-Mobile and Verizon won't cause problems will it?
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No. If you were using two Verizon SIM's, it might be. Sprint definitely doesn't like two of the same IMEI showing up on their network.

jcsww said:
Converting worked fine for me. I ordered a couple of dual-SIM trays while I was waiting for it to be unlocked. By the time my device was SIM unlocked, I had the dual-SIM trays and converting went fairly smooth. I had some minor issues with the MSM Tool recognizing my device in EDL but using the CAB drivers solved that for me. The only thing you need to be aware of, is that both SIM slots share the same IMEI. On some carriers networks, having two SIM's for the same carrier with the same IMEI will get the device flagged.
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Which sim tray did you get? There are tons!

cobrajet7 said:
Which sim tray did you get? There are tons!
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I bought two of these because the price was right and they arrived within a few days of my order being processed. They fit and work perfectly and match the Mirror Grey of my device perfectly as well.

Mine was sum unlocked and was able to convert to international. Also took the Android 10 update.
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jcsww said:
I bought two of these because the price was right and they arrived within a few days of my order being processed. They fit and work perfectly and match the Mirror Grey of my device perfectly as well.
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Ordered one too
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I converted mine and it was fairly easy. I did it mainly because I wanted to use the oxygenupdater to get the most recent updates. I did not root the phone nor did I have any intention of doing so.

I unlocked and converted mine. No issues. I want to sell it, actually.

The process is fairly easy if you want a straight conversion without worrying about the SIM or bootloader unlock(s). Unlocking either the SIM or the bootloader adds a few steps but it still isn't all that bad. I haven't personally had any issues that I feel are directly related to the conversion per-se. OxygenOS 10 (Android 10) is a bit wonky at times but otherwise everything is in the clear.
I WILL say after trying both that I feel like the AA (International/Global) OxygenOS 10 build is much more stable/optimized than the BA (EU) build appears to be.

jvs60 said:
I unlocked and converted mine. No issues. I want to sell it, actually.
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Why?
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TheAnarchist1 said:
The process is fairly easy if you want a straight conversion without worrying about the SIM or bootloader unlock(s). Unlocking either the SIM or the bootloader adds a few steps but it still isn't all that bad. I haven't personally had any issues that I feel are directly related to the conversion per-se. OxygenOS 10 (Android 10) is a bit wonky at times but otherwise everything is in the clear.
I WILL say after trying both that I feel like the AA (International/Global) OxygenOS 10 build is much more stable/optimized than the BA (EU) build appears to be.
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Whole thing took less than 10 min only due to I couldn't get the timing of 5 seconds power + vol up and down
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Why?
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Nothing wrong with the phone, I'm just ready to move on. I actually want to take my chances with the Huawei Mate 30. I change phones often. This oneplus is my sixth phone since I bought the Mate 20 Pro last October.

jvs60 said:
Nothing wrong with the phone, I'm just ready to move on. I actually want to take my chances with the Huawei Mate 30. I change phones often. This oneplus is my sixth phone since I bought the Mate 20 Pro last October.
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I did that for a while after retiring my Nexus 6P. It is hard to find another device that I really like enough to use it for more than 6 months. After going through an LG V30, two S9 Plus (wanted the grey but originally bought the purple), and a Note 9. Outside of the camera image quality and lack of a headphone jack, I am fairly happy with my OnePlus 7 Pro. The 1440p screen at 90Hz really makes it hard to go to anything else. The Xiaomi Mi MIX Alpha looks pretty darn sweet though.

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I did that for a while after retiring my Nexus 6P. It is hard to find another device that I really like enough to use it for more than 6 months. After going through an LG V30, two S9 Plus (wanted the grey but originally bought the purple), and a Note 9. Outside of the camera image quality and lack of a headphone jack, I am fairly happy with my OnePlus 7 Pro. The 1440p screen at 90Hz really makes it hard to go to anything else. The Xiaomi Mi MIX Alpha looks pretty darn sweet though.
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I have a 90hz screen and keep it on 60hz I went from the V30 to the Mate 20 Pro. One of my favorites that I would actually buy now as a back up is the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3. I really liked that one for some reason. Maybe the ceramic build, the weight of it, the tremendous battery life with a not so big battery.

OnePlus8 VZW Bootloader is Not Unlockable

Has anyone seen any difference in the bootloader, unlocking, rootability on the Verizon Version of the OnePlus 8. Anything in coding that speaks to a lock out from Big Red?
I heard about sign up and IMEI issues with the direct OnePlus buys although it seems the IMEI issue came across from the Verizon branded ones as well.
Thanks in advance for feedback!!!
Edit.... At this time OEM Unlock is Non-existent in the DEV Settings and Fastboot CMD does not Allow unlocking of the bootloader. Thanks All!!!

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I hope that this thread gets some attention or there will be low sales for the Verizon version for root and custom ROM users.

Well if the 8 pro is anything like the 7 pro the bootloader unlock was really easy. There is a statement on DroidLife,com they are talking about unlocked OnePlus 8 phones and Verizon but it was yesterday and it might be fixed by now or real soon.

I have the T-Mobile oneplus 8 I could not network unlock my device not because I am on eip but because my phone is not showing up in their database... they questioned if I even got it through them, I gave them my order number and my IMEI and it was not coming up in their system

Some_Ghost said:
I have the T-Mobile oneplus 8 I could not network unlock my device not because I am on eip but because my phone is not showing up in their database... they questioned if I even got it through them, I gave them my order number and my IMEI and it was not coming up in their system
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Same from the reports on VZW. Just wondering how that worked out with the device hardware modifications (assuming there actually are any. Think I may give it a whirl and return if its locked up.

I bought one from straight from oneplus themselves and even though I hadn't even inserted a SIM card yet, I couldn't unlock the bootloader (inserting one didn't change anything). I don't think this is specific to verizon, or perhaps somethings up. Anyone know what's going on? It's an IN21AA

Whatever... I'll bite the bullet. Just ordered one 5 minutes ago and I'll get it on the 6th. Let's see where we end up.

I won't be ordering one if the bootloader can not be unlocked any status updates would be great. The money off with a trade in for the Verizon one is hard to pass up then again the Oneplus Z is coming very soon and with a snapdragon 765G same chip the pixel 5 is rumored to have? move over pixel 4a screwed again.

Sachi315 said:
I won't be ordering one if the bootloader can not be unlocked any status updates would be great. The money off with a trade in for the Verizon one is hard to pass up then again the Oneplus Z is coming very soon and with a snapdragon 765G same chip the pixel 5 is rumored to have move over pixel 4a screwed again.
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I feel like this may be a bug or something else is up with certain models, Oneplus isn't exactly known for keeping everything locked after all.

Xavster2 said:
I feel like this may be a bug or something else is up with certain models, Oneplus isn't exactly known for keeping everything locked after all.
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For the unlocked models from oneplus I agree it's probably a bug. But the VZW branded 8 5G I don't think it is. Pixels even have a different bootloader than the unlocked ones and can't be unlocked if bought from Verizon. Maybe oneplus fought this but who knows Verizon has a lot of pull.

Sachi315 said:
For the unlocked models from oneplus I agree it's probably a bug. But the VZW branded 8 5G I don't think it is. Pixels even have a different bootloader than the unlocked ones and can't be unlocked if bought from Verizon. Maybe oneplus fought this but who knows Verizon has a lot of pull.
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That's really sad. I bought this device for this very reason over others and I cannot imagine having it perma locked because of verizon (Am on a tmobile MVNO).

Hey guys go read post #4

foamerman said:
Hey guys go read post #4
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I know it's unlockable. But even people buying direct are having issues with the unlocked phones. If there is a way to unlock the bootloader like the VZW pixel keep the sim out turn it on use WiFi and maybe OEM unlocking isn't greyed out. But VZW will patch that real quick like they did with the pixels. I have a OnePlus 7 pro I have no problem waiting for the 8T or even the Z it's not much of an upgrade anyway the trade in deal was kinda hard to pass up when OnePlus trade in program doesn't give enough money at all. The VZW one was taking even pixel 2s which I have lying around so it was worth it.

Xavster2 said:
I bought one from straight from oneplus themselves and even though I hadn't even inserted a SIM card yet, I couldn't unlock the bootloader (inserting one didn't change anything). I don't think this is specific to verizon, or perhaps somethings up. Anyone know what's going on? It's an IN21AA
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You need a sim and network to enable OEM unlocking ??* it's your mistake, nobody elses

XD-MOD2-9MM said:
You need a sim and network to enable OEM unlocking ??* it's your mistake, nobody elses
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>>Inserting one didn't change anything (and it's been that way for 4 days now)

Then I'd try a factory reset. There's no way the unlocked version won't let you unlock the bootloader. No chance. Mine was greyed out till I put a sim in and rebooted on my 8 Pro. and you can always return or exchange or get a refund ??

I read on DroidLife that the unlocked 8 and 8 pro are now certified on Verizon maybe people should work with the reps. to get the problem worked out. If the 8 pro is anything like the 7 pro it's going to be easy to unlock just use ADB.

So that's a definite? OnePlus 8 from red can not be bootloader unlocked? Even when paid off. Jus got mine 2day ago an that would blow

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So that's a definite? OnePlus 8 from red can not be bootloader unlocked? Even when paid off. Jus got mine 2day ago an that would blow
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I'm not sure what phone you are using now. But I've had the 6, I've got the 7 pro now and both were easy to unlock using ADB and there were both on big red. But right now red had only the 8 pro 5G phone. I talked to a rep online she said was not sure when they were getting the 8 and 8 pro. I read that red was working on certifying unlocked 8 pro from oneplus but they also said it could be June. Let's hope it's sooner. Now I did have trouble with the 7 pro to get it to work on Verizon so I went to Verizon and they got it up and running. It was just a a couple of switches on there side.

Ordered an unlocked 8T and am a T-Mobile customer.

I pre-ordered the unlocked 8t before I knew T-Mobile was releasing their own version. I'd like to know if there are any 5G performance features that the T-Mobile version has that the unlocked version doesn't. I searched around and one place said the only difference is software-related. Would I be better off returning the unlocked 8t and buying the T-Mobile version?

Just depends on what your needs are. The unlocked version will get 5G service just fine. T-mobile version claims to optimize the network, however I'm not 100%sure about that. If you're wanting easy bootloader unlock and flash custom roms the unlocked might be the better way to go, otherwise the t-mobile version is fine as this is the variant I have.
I'm sure my rambling didn't help you much.
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Only difference between the TMobile variant and unlocked is the IP68 certification.

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Only difference between the TMobile variant and unlocked is the IP68 certification.
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And single sim tray, locked bootloader as well as no AOD
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And single sim tray, locked bootloader as well as no AOD
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Tmobile version bootloader can be unlocked after sim unlock (which can be achieved by contacting Tmobile support on Twitter, did it for 7Pro and 6T)

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Tmobile version bootloader can be unlocked after sim unlock (which can be achieved by contacting Tmobile support on Twitter, did it for 7Pro and 6T)
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That's not what I said. Yes I know that it can be unlocked. The unlocked version comes unlockable
And not everyone has an easy time at obtaining an unlock code from T-mobile either. ..
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Those three things apply to the T-Moblie variant? And which one has the ip68 rating?
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Yes those 3 things applies to the T-mobile variant. Official IP68 is the T-mobile one as well
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@bbowman I have T-Mobile too and I've Supported OPO, OP3, OP3T, OP5, OP6T Global and now OP8T Global. I've always bought the Global Ed and have had no issues using them on the T-Mobile network. The only differences I saw between the T-Mobile version of the 6T and the Global was the T-Mobile ver got Network "Improvement" updates to "better" tune the software to work with T-Mobile Towers and it only had 1 SIM slot. With the 6T once it was unlocked it could be flashed with a Global Firmware.

Should be fine
Currently on the unlocked OnePlus 8 Pro on T-Mobile. I get all the 5G, including the standalone (after getting an R15 SIM card from the nearest T-Mobile store). You shouldn't have any issues with the unlocked 8T (mine will get delivered today) in terms of 5G, and you get the flexibility of dual-SIM. Win-win.
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I pre-ordered the unlocked 8t before I knew T-Mobile was releasing their own version. I'd like to know if there are any 5G performance features that the T-Mobile version has that the unlocked version doesn't. I searched around and one place said the only difference is software-related. Would I be better off returning the unlocked 8t and buying the T-Mobile version?
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Currently on the unlocked OnePlus 8 Pro on T-Mobile. I get all the 5G, including the standalone (after getting an R15 SIM card from the nearest T-Mobile store). You shouldn't have any issues with the unlocked 8T (mine will get delivered today) in terms of 5G, and you get the flexibility of dual-SIM. Win-win.
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Mine arrived yesterday and I was surprised to see that I had 5G coverage (central Orange County, CA)! My SIM card is many years old, will I somehow get better 5G service if I swap in a newer card?

Yeah, I was getting 5G just fine. The newer SIM lets you access the standalone 5g network (when available), which I believe should give you even better downloads/uploads and lower latency. It doesn't share the frequency band with 4G, is the thing. As I understand it, anyway.
In my practical experience, I popped in the new SIM and got 400MBps standing outside the T-Mobile store. I hadn't seen that previously.
I'm sure it's fine without, but if you're near a store, it can only improve what sounds like is already a good experience for you.
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Mine arrived yesterday and I was surprised to see that I had 5G coverage (central Orange County, CA)! My SIM card is many years old, will I somehow get better 5G service if I swap in a newer card?
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Yeah, I was getting 5G just fine. The newer SIM lets you access the standalone 5g network (when available), which I believe should give you even better downloads/uploads and lower latency. It doesn't share the frequency band with 4G, is the thing. As I understand it, anyway.
In my practical experience, I popped in the new SIM and got 400MBps standing outside the T-Mobile store. I hadn't seen that previously.
I'm sure it's fine without, but if you're near a store, it can only improve what sounds like is already a good experience for you.
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Thanks I didn't know that about the new sim version. I got international on t mobile. My 7t is international and I been with tmo for 14 years. I noticed with 7t and now 8t, visual voicemail NEVER works unless I have the tmo version. My 6t was tmo version, won't make that mistake again, but nonetheless, I was curious, does yours work? And my rcs is on and off bi weekly, always connecting, or trying.

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Tmobile version bootloader can be unlocked after sim unlock (which can be achieved by contacting Tmobile support on Twitter, did it for 7Pro and 6T)
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Do you have to meet the Tmo unlock requirements or can twitter support bypass the restrictions?

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Do you have to meet the Tmo unlock requirements or can twitter support bypass the restrictions?
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It been said most people are able to get it bypassed via Tforce (twitter T-Mobile support) as long as ypur nice to them. Thats what im gonna do when i get mine tommorow and have the imei. It looks like the only requirement in order to request the bootloader unlock code is having it sim unlocked (with up to 2 day waiting for the unlock file for bootloader).
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Thanks I didn't know that about the new sim version. I got international on t mobile. My 7t is international and I been with tmo for 14 years. I noticed with 7t and now 8t, visual voicemail NEVER works unless I have the tmo version. My 6t was tmo version, won't make that mistake again, but nonetheless, I was curious, does yours work? And my rcs is on and off bi weekly, always connecting, or trying.
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I did the same thing with the TMo 6T. In-app visual voicemail was the only advantage. I just use the T-Mobile visual voicemail app since then, and it's mostly fine. As for RCS, mine has been connected solid side I set the phone up. Maybe try clearing cache/storage on Messages/Google Play Services?

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I did the same thing with the TMo 6T. In-app visual voicemail was the only advantage. I just use the T-Mobile visual voicemail app since then, and it's mostly fine. As for RCS, mine has been connected solid side I set the phone up. Maybe try clearing cache/storage on Messages/Google Play Services?
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Yes I have just accepted no visual voicemail, oneplus customer service sucks and can't understand what I'm telling them. Confused at whether I'm saying I have a tmo variant or not. I have not had one, for 6t or 7t.
Rcs I have got working. Had to opt out on the online form, then turn it off for a while and disable carrier services.

8T unlocked out of stock – can I get T-mobile version and unlock it? Or another suggestion?

Hi there,
I've read through the various threads but I don't see my basic question answered: if I buy the T-mobile US version 8T (direct from OnePlus) can I make it like the unlocked international version? I have flashed ROMS before, tinkered with modem files, etc. but I don't want to go to far down that rabbit hole. I really just want the unlocked version from OnePlus but they are out of stock. I want to be able to use this phone outside of the US with local carriers, and want 2 sim slots.
I'm in this situation because I just smashed my unlocked international version 7 Pro and have a few months left on Mint Mobile in the US, and would like to continue with them anyway. Alternatively, I could get a refurbished 7 Pro from Amazon for around the same price. Advice?
Many thanks!

don't mean to sidetrack too far, but can the t-mobile US version work with verizon?

fredekr said:
Hi there,
I've read through the various threads but I don't see my basic question answered: if I buy the T-mobile US version 8T (direct from OnePlus) can I make it like the unlocked international version? I have flashed ROMS before, tinkered with modem files, etc. but I don't want to go to far down that rabbit hole. I really just want the unlocked version from OnePlus but they are out of stock. I want to be able to use this phone outside of the US with local carriers, and want 2 sim slots.
I'm in this situation because I just smashed my unlocked international version 7 Pro and have a few months left on Mint Mobile in the US, and would like to continue with them anyway. Alternatively, I could get a refurbished 7 Pro from Amazon for around the same price. Advice?
Many thanks!
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I am on same situation but as I understand getting T-mobile version is not good idea there is no good method to switch it global firmware it has a lot of issues. I clicked notify me button in Oneplus website and hope they will get it back stock soon.

ITMASTER said:
I am on same situation but as I understand getting T-mobile version is not good idea there is no good method to switch it global firmware it has a lot of issues. I clicked notify me button in Oneplus website and hope they will get it back stock soon.
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Thanks for that tip.
I just noticed an eBay listing that describes the SIM unlock as a very simple process. This seem to contradict what I read in a thread on here about having to be on the T-Mobile network for some length of time, etc.
Here's the listing and they claim you can SIM unlock the T-mobile variant by the simple process quoted below. Is this true?
How to Unlock (Network unlock) this Mobile:
· Connect you phone to WIFI
· Go to Settings
· Go to WIFI & Network
· Go to SIM & Network Setting
· Go to Network Unlock.
· Click and then go to Permanent Unlock.
· It will take some time and will give you confirmation message.
· Sometimes Unlocking Server is Busy or there is some connection problem, then try again.
· It will give you confirmation message once Unlocking is done.
· Restart the devise
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But will this work if you are not T-mobile user and will get sealed box from OP store?

ITMASTER said:
But will this work if you are not T-mobile user and will get sealed box from OP store?
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Yes, that's what I want to know too! The process says, "connect to wi-fi"... so... maybe??

When I called oneplus support they told me it need to be used with t-mobile line at least 40 days than can unlock. But not sure if they are right. We need someone who is in US and can get it and test at least if it will not work can return back.

You could try contacting fcc since you would buy the phone out right and not owe on it I had to do that for my n10 I was supposed to have phone on service for 6 months I think but got it unlocked within a week from when I contacted fcc

But from another side we pay full price in oneplus store so T-mobile should unlock it right away. Because this is not contract phone with payments.

I purchased a T-Mobile 8T from OnePlus and it arrived about a week ago. I used the phone for a few days while I attempted to get T-Mobile to unlock the device. I went through 3 call center reps and one in-store rep, and all of them said that because I purchased the device from OnePlus and not from T-Mobile directly, that they do not have any record of the IMEI being in their system and that there is nothing they can do to unlock it. They told me to contact OnePlus to get it unlocked, who then told me that T-Mobile is the only one who can unlock the device and that it will take 45 days before T-Mobile will be able to do so.
Returning the device today. It's a shame, because I really do like the device (despite the fact that the camera is significantly worse than my 3T).

cpkelley94 said:
They told me to contact OnePlus to get it unlocked, who then told me that T-Mobile is the only one who can unlock the device and that it will take 45 days before T-Mobile will be able to do so.
Returning the device today. It's a shame, because I really do like the device (despite the fact that the camera is significantly worse than my 3T).
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Any chance you can try or have tried the process suggested by the eBay vendor? (in post #4 in this thread)?

fredekr said:
Any chance you can try or have tried the process suggested by the eBay vendor? (in post #4 in this thread)?
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Yes I tried this many times over the last few days, did not work for me. The result says the device is not eligible for unlock, then below returns a server error.

cpkelley94 said:
Yes I tried this many times over the last few days, did not work for me. The result says the device is not eligible for unlock, then below returns a server error.
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Sorry to hear that. But I'm glad to hear your experience because I was about to buy directly from OnePlus since I have a $30 off coupon, which brings the price down to $320 at the moment.
The eBay vendor insists that their process works and will accept a return if not... I wonder if there's any reason that a phone from that vendor would work, but a phone from OnePlus directly would not...?

fredekr said:
Sorry to hear that. But I'm glad to hear your experience because I was about to buy directly from OnePlus since I have a $30 off coupon, which brings the price down to $320 at the moment.
The eBay vendor insists that their process works and will accept a return if not... I wonder if there's any reason that a phone from that vendor would work, but a phone from OnePlus directly would not...?
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I think it will work only if you do it right out of the box without putting in T-Mobile sim card.

fredekr said:
Sorry to hear that. But I'm glad to hear your experience because I was about to buy directly from OnePlus since I have a $30 off coupon, which brings the price down to $320 at the moment.
The eBay vendor insists that their process works and will accept a return if not... I wonder if there's any reason that a phone from that vendor would work, but a phone from OnePlus directly would not...?
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If the eBay vendor has opened and activated the device with a T-Mobile SIM card for >40 days, it may actually work in that case, I'm not sure. It could also depend on whether the eBay vendor bought the device from T-Mobile rather than OnePlus. But this has been my experience with a brand-new device from OnePlus.

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I think it will work only if you do it right out of the box without putting in T-Mobile sim card.
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Hmm... that's interesting, what makes you say that?

cpkelley94 said:
If the eBay vendor has opened and activated the device with a T-Mobile SIM card for >40 days, it may actually work in that case, I'm not sure. It could also depend on whether the eBay vendor bought the device from T-Mobile rather than OnePlus. But this has been my experience with a brand-new device from OnePlus.
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Yes, and thanks for sharing your experience. I don't think the eBay vendor has opened the boxes, but they do say that they acquired the phones directly from T-Mobile.

fredekr said:
Yes, and thanks for sharing your experience. I don't think the eBay vendor has opened the boxes, but they do say that they acquired the phones directly from T-Mobile.
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Judging from my conversations with T-Mobile, this matters, because if they were purchased from T-Mobile then they should have the IMEI in their database.

fredekr said:
Hmm... that's interesting, what makes you say that?
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I assume that from the eBay vendor who says their boxes sealed, so logically they never had T-Mobile card inserted. Also I saw some post in oneplus forum that guy used to have unlocked 8T which worked with other carrier when he inserted T-Mobile card phone get locked to T-Mobile.

Also I saw this thread it is about OP 8 but they have same situation.
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