I've had all of the Pixel XL phones since they first were released and was hoping for a nice upgrade with the Pixel 5. After seeing the specs/hardware it unfortunately looks like I'll be searching for something different now, I'm pretty disappointed to say the least.
Let's see if anyone cares...
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Savage
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That's not how you spell childish.
He is right, though. They slashed most of the features, only slightly toned the price down and now we have a phone without real purpose or usage. Its too expensive for its features, much more expensive than the already decent 4a/4a 5g (but costs double/much more) and cannot be considered an upgrade to the pixel 4 (xl). I wonder.
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He is right, though. They slashed most of the features, only slightly toned the price down and now we have a phone without real purpose or usage. Its too expensive for its features, much more expensive than the already decent 4a/4a 5g (but costs double/much more) and cannot be considered an upgrade to the pixel 4 (xl). I wonder.
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Exactly, maybe $550 would be a more fair price $599 max, it's essentially Google's take on the nord and that's what $450?
@airmax23,
What features or specs were you looking for that the Pixel 5 didn't have?
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@airmax23,
What features or specs were you looking for that the Pixel 5 didn't have?
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Better CPU
Larger screen
Face Unlock - I know that many people did not like it, but I did.
Bye.
Comes with Bose headphones and in smaller packaging, that's me sold.
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Bye.
Comes with Bose headphones and in smaller packaging, that's me sold.
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I was saying "bye" to the Pixel phones, not you.
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Bye.
Comes with Bose headphones and in smaller packaging, that's me sold.
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Correction
Bye Felicia
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He is right, though. They slashed most of the features, only slightly toned the price down and now we have a phone without real purpose or usage. Its too expensive for its features, much more expensive than the already decent 4a/4a 5g (but costs double/much more) and cannot be considered an upgrade to the pixel 4 (xl). I wonder.
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They pretty much screwed US users with the pricing, unfortunately. In other countries you're looking at the equivalent of $600-650 with $200 of included free stuff.
Not saying it's cheap or even particularly affordable in the other countries, but at least it doesn't feel like you're getting reamed quite as hard.
The purpose, though? Well, it's a mid-range phone with sufficient RAM and storage and an ultrawide camera with Google's software. Wireless charging, hopefully some decent battery life and a bright display. That fixes a lot of the stuff that was annoying about the Pixel 4 (tiny battery, dim display, and no ultrawide camera pretty much made the Pixel 4 a non-starter for me, ESPECIALLY at the flagship price it was commanding back then).
If you don't mind the 6GB of RAM, you can save some cash and just buy the 4a 5G (or even the 4a if you don't need an ultrawide). They've fixed all the crap that was wrong with the Pixel 4 and have offered a range of price points... sure, they've also made mistakes and left a bunch of stuff out, but the MAJOR stuff is there (like the display you can actually use outdoors in sunlight).
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I've had all of the Pixel XL phones since they first were released and was hoping for a nice upgrade with the Pixel 5. After seeing the specs/hardware it unfortunately looks like I'll be searching for something different now, I'm pretty disappointed to say the least.
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Bye, we are not going to miss you ...
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Bye, we are not going to miss you ...
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Such a witty, well thought out response, thank you for contributing.
Imagine being that much of a narcissistic person you open a thread on a forum announcing that you don't buy a specific phone
LISTEN EVERYBODY, LOOK AT ME!
I'm not buying glasses because I don't have bad eyesight
Still patiently and blissfully waiting to see if anybody cares...
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Still patiently and blissfully waiting to see if anybody cares...
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I care.. there is a hate thread.. find it and post there. We don't need another.
Not you.. sorry.
airmaxx23 said:
I've had all of the Pixel XL phones since they first were released and was hoping for a nice upgrade with the Pixel 5. After seeing the specs/hardware it unfortunately looks like I'll be searching for something different now, I'm pretty disappointed to say the least.
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I'm totally with you. I was considering something different as well but what? I'm sure not going to put up with a Samsung phone and I'm definitely not going to switch to an iPhone. I want that pure Google software experience. Not really any other good choice.
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I'm totally with you. I was considering something different as well but what? I'm sure not going to put up with a Samsung phone and I'm definitely not going to switch to an iPhone. I want that pure Google software experience. Not really any other good choice.
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It's good to see someone with a brain respond in this thread. My last Samsung phone was the Note 4 and I actually really liked it. I ended up getting a Note 20 Ultra 5G afew days ago and I'm really impressed with it. It's faster/ smoother than the Pixel 4XL and has a bigger/ brighter screen. It's also now possible to root the Verizon Note 20 Ultra which I'll probably do in a few days.
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I've had all of the Pixel XL phones since they first were released and was hoping for a nice upgrade with the Pixel 5. After seeing the specs/hardware it unfortunately looks like I'll be searching for something different now, I'm pretty disappointed to say the least.
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Pixels are not for the weak hearted. If you want to just use social media and play games, get a Samsung or an iPhone.
If you want cutting edge development, get the Pixel.
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If so, what do you thing about the announcement today?
It pushed me closer towards the v20 personally, but I wonder what you guys think.
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If so, what do you thing about the announcement today?
It pushed me closer towards the v20 personally, but I wonder what you guys think.
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Nope!
The Pixel is not impressive at all to me. I want more in a phone that just takes a good photo.
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Nope!
The Pixel is not impressive at all to me. I want more in a phone that just takes a good photo.
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While I love a good camera on my phone, I agree. I need a lot more to put down that much cash.
My V10 has been taken excellent photos. Can imagine the V20 will not disappoint.
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No Pixel overpriced and outdated toys for me. Not in the same league as my Nexus6p or the V20!
The V20 is looking better everyday. Definitely not interested in the pixel xl disaster. I'll keep my Nexus 6p first.
Yeah, V20 looks better in almost every way. If Pixel had removable battery, expandable storage, didn't look like an iPhone, and was cheaper by $100 or so, I'd consider it over this phone. As the stands, the V20 is the phone to beat for me.
Pretty funny how the V20 is the first to ship with Android 7.0 and then the Pixel phones ship with 7.1... Sneaky Google.
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Pretty funny how the V20 is the first to ship with Android 7.0 and then the Pixel phones ship with 7.1... Sneaky Google.
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Neither one had shipped yet, "first" remains to be seen
Personally, waiting for V20.
I will say that my disappointment of the Pixel drove me to look for an alternative, which led me to this device. The V20 seems to have solid hardware and software, and I'm betting it's going to cost less than the Pixel, which in my book would make it the best flagship of the year. In any case, we'll find out soon enough.
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Neither one had shipped yet, "first" remains to be seen
Personally, waiting for V20.
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The V20 started shipping in Korea last month, so it is definitely the first.
Pixel priced me out. I have a 6p from them and it seems it's going to be abandon ware after just over a year in existence. I'm gonna get the v20 and just sit on the 6p as a backup phone or maybe sell it. Feel burned a bit by Google though.
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I'm betting there's not gonna be a preorder for the v20 since it's such a niche phone. I'm hoping for end of the month release
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Pixel priced me out. I have a 6p from them and it seems it's going to be abandon ware after just over a year in existence. I'm gonna get the v20 and just sit on the 6p as a backup phone or maybe sell it. Feel burned a bit by Google though.
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I feel ya,that's messed up that,although the 6P will get the 7.1 update,it's not cool to push the update(s) back,just for the Pixel line to grab top-billing (I'm 1st......)
JMHO,once you get your hands on a V20,it'll make you all but forget about the Nexus &/or Pixel line-up.
Timely updates are nice,but,I'll take the extra features that LG/Samsung/etc...... offer vs timely updates on stock Android.
I am considering the v20 pixel and the lates moto still undicided. One thing for certain has to be bootloader unlocked ....
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The critical function for me will be rootability, unlocked bootloader, and free wifi hotspot tethering on Verizon.
I have this on the L3, and that's where I will have to stay until I can move up and keep these.
I'm considering the V20 myself. The Pixel XL just couldn't come close to justifying the $300+ increase over what I paid for my 6P. Plus I'm also considering this for my wife and kids to get them off iPhone's, and with the Pixel that's complicated (as we're on T-Mobile with JUMP). So I will be paying very close attention to this once it is finally available. Though I am seriously considering taking a look at the Axon 7 as well.
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I'm considering the V20 myself. The Pixel XL just couldn't come close to justifying the $300+ increase over what I paid for my 6P. Plus I'm also considering this for my wife and kids to get them off iPhone's, and with the Pixel that's complicated (as we're on T-Mobile with JUMP). So I will be paying very close attention to this once it is finally available. Though I am seriously considering taking a look at the Axon 7 as well.
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The Axon 7 is a great device for the most part. The software leaves a bit to be desired, but it may get better... it will get better once the official (from ZTE) CyanogenMod release for it comes out. Do be aware though, the camera is absolutely garbage in mid to low light. Daylight shots are mostly good and highly detailed, except for some bad edge lens softness. Also be aware that T-Mobile WiFi calling is still not released (who knows if it ever will be) and I'm not sure if VoLTE is working either.
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The Axon 7 is a great device for the most part. The software leaves a bit to be desired, but it may get better... it will get better once the official (from ZTE) CyanogenMod release for it comes out. Do be aware though, the camera is absolutely garbage in mid to low light. Daylight shots are mostly good and highly detailed, except for some bad edge lens softness. Also be aware that T-Mobile WiFi calling is still not released (who knows if it ever will be) and I'm not sure if VoLTE is working either.
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Yeah it looks like an amazing device. I've read about the issues with Signal Strength as well and is one of the reasons why I'm hesitant to do anything with it. Don't care about the Camera/WiFi Calling to be honest, and may/may not care about VoLTE. But definitely a step backwards from my 6P. Will have to wait and see how the V20 does, though I don't know if I can move to it (I'm really hung up on front facing stereo speakers now).
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Yeah it looks like an amazing device. I've read about the issues with Signal Strength as well and is one of the reasons why I'm hesitant to do anything with it. Don't care about the Camera/WiFi Calling to be honest, and may/may not care about VoLTE. But definitely a step backwards from my 6P. Will have to wait and see how the V20 does, though I don't know if I can move to it (I'm really hung up on front facing stereo speakers now).
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Totally forgot about that issue. Yes, it can be a problem. I did notice it had worse signal, but rarely to the point of impacting my usage negatively. This will vary based on where you live. If you're out in the boonies and rely on 1 bar on service constantly, certainly do not gamble with it until they fix it (if they can)... or buy one from somewhere that you can easily return it if it doesn't work out.
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Totally forgot about that issue. Yes, it can be a problem. I did notice it had worse signal, but rarely to the point of impacting my usage negatively. This will vary based on where you live. If you're out in the boonies and rely on 1 bar on service constantly, certainly do not gamble with it until they fix it (if they can)... or buy one from somewhere that you can easily return it if it doesn't work out.
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Yeah, not sure whether or not it will affect me. I live in Los Angeles, and both at work and home I get 60-110Mbit LTE, but I do occasionally visit an area where even my 6P barely works (while my wife's iPhone just keeps ticking along).
Anyone make the switch? To be honest, I'm still very happy with my pixel xl. Camera is relevant and the ux/ui performance is still top notch.
I'm thinking this would be a side-grade and not really an upgrade?
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I just picked up an Essential to replace an HTC 10. For me, I was looking at used Pixel XL's (128GB) and new Essential Phone since they're around the same pricepoint.
What came down to it for me was the Snapdragon 835, new/fresh battery, and probably less warranty issues with a brand new phone.
I have a Nexus 6p and I bought an Essential phone and I'm selling the Essential because the camera quality was poorer (even with g cam trying optimizing it, pictures have a slight yellow hue and the picture is a little bit less sharp, while the Nexus 6p often have the best colors right off the bat) and the passage from AMOLED back to LCD was meh. Plus you gonna still have the update faster if you stick to the Pixel. But the build quality is fantastic.
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Plus you gonna still have the update faster if you stick to the Pixel. But the build quality is fantastic.
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Yeah, the Pixel got the November update on Monday. We had to wait until Tuesday.
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Yeah, the Pixel got the November update on Monday. We had to wait until Tuesday.
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But there is still no Oreo, while i have it on my Nexus 6p since September (and I need the LDAC support of Oreo)
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Yeah, I was surprised how quickly essential got that out. But I think he is also referring to os updates. I'm running 8.1 on my pixel. It'll be a while before essential pushes that out.
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I sold my pixel for the essential.
The pixel camera app is much quicker and more reliable than essentials. As far as picture quality goes, indoors, when trying to capture more fine details the Pixel camera definitely wins. In good lighting and outdoors I can't tell a difference between the 2.
In terms of everything else the essential is better. Build quality and materials are better. More storage for less money. Performance is better on the essential. The essential is easier to tote around and use one handed because the bezels are smaller. If it wasn't for essential taking so long to improve the camera app then I would say it is the best smartphone experience I have had. And I have had a lot. Like over 20 easily.
Also I went through 6 pixels. The first one had paint chipping issues like nothing I have ever seen. The second one had a faulty speaker. The third one had radio issues. The 4th had fast charge issues. The 5th had issues with overheating to the point where I couldn't hold the device. And I am not a heavy user. And the 6th I sold as soon as it came in.
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I sold my pixel for the essential.
The pixel camera app is much quicker and more reliable than essentials. As far as picture quality goes, indoors, when trying to capture more fine details the Pixel camera definitely wins. In good lighting and outdoors I can't tell a difference between the 2.
In terms of everything else the essential is better. Build quality and materials are better. More storage for less money. Performance is better on the essential. The essential is easier to tote around and use one handed because the bezels are smaller. If it wasn't for essential taking so long to improve the camera app then I would say it is the best smartphone experience I have had. And I have had a lot. Like over 20 easily.
Also I went through 6 pixels. The first one had paint chipping issues like nothing I have ever seen. The second one had a faulty speaker. The third one had radio issues. The 4th had fast charge issues. The 5th had issues with overheating to the point where I couldn't hold the device. And I am not a heavy user. And the 6th I sold as soon as it came in.
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Original or 2nd gen? I had my earpiece speaker blow on my og xl.. had it bl unlocked but it was a Verizon model.. replacement from google had updated bl so i couldnt unlocked and i dumped it.. pre-order 2 xl.. then cancelled a few days before it shipped because of all of the screen issues.....my ph-1 will be here Monday.. cant wait
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The original. I thought about getting the Pixel 2 but the high price and screen issues keeps me away. If a phone cost nearly $1000 it better be perfect.
I think I ended up with the Essential Phone partly by choice and partly by accident. I'm a Sprint customer. My old Galaxy S5 was broken, I needed a phone that was cheap, as up to date as possible, and available NOW. That was early September. The PH-1 was by far the cheapest option for me to buy through Sprint.
There's a lot to love and a lot to hate. The camera app has gotten better but won't be winning any awards pretty much ever. That said, it's decent. The phone's form factor is small, which means it can fit into a pocket where a Pixel XL won't. As a longtime Samsung owner I love the pure android ability to get rid of bloat, but I'm used to a much more reliable experience and a much better looking screen. I love the huge screen on a tiny phone, but LCD is just so pedestrian at this point. I was always running out of internal space on my Samsung, so it's awesome to have 128GB internal. It's annoying that SD card support and phone jack weren't included. It's probably the best looking phone out there right now, which is kinda cool. Sadly, it's very buggy. It loses connection with my android watch and I've had to completely wipe and reconnect it a few times already. There is no "press the _____ button" to activate Google Assistant" option (as least not that I know of) which is a bit of a downer. Voice recognition is super buggy. The phone says it's listening, but you have to wait of few seconds because it will miss the first few words you say. It also takes about 5 words voice-to-text, then just simply stops taking/writing anymore words. You have to cancel and hit the microphone icon again to get it another 5 words , wash rinse repeat. The touchscreen tends to be unresponsive. It's gotten a bit better since the last patch, but it's still not great. It would have been nice if the fingerprint scanner doubled as a home button like LG does. Finding a case for the Essential Phone was a nightmare, but they're pretty easy to find now. The phone SHOULD BE one of the fastest phones on the market, but instead it's laggy. And one of the biggest reasons to get the Essential Phone -- clip on modules -- is kindof a nothingburger at this point. Honestly, I wish I could have held out for an LG V30+, but it wasn't out yet.
i'm also hesitating...
Just to chime in I got this coming from the pixel, not XL. I really like this phone, especially on the 8.1 beta. Its a great little handset, feels awesome, much better battery than anything Google has, and very snappy. I also had wicked issues flashing anything on my pixel. No trouble so far with the essential for me.
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Just to chime in I got this coming from the pixel, not XL. I really like this phone, especially on the 8.1 beta. Its a great little handset, feels awesome, much better battery than anything Google has, and very snappy. I also had wicked issues flashing anything on my pixel. No trouble so far with the essential for me.
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What do you think about the photo and video?
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What do you think about the photo and video?
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Despite all the negative press, the pictures aren't bad. Their not as good as the pixel, true, but I don't use a phone as my main source for high quality pictures. I know many folks do simply because they always have their phone on them. The bottom line is, no one is going to look at a picture you took with this phone and think, "ew, did your 5-year old draw that?" It works just fine.
I heard about this phone early this year did some research and decided to buy it from Amazon on Jan 24th. I came from a Galaxy S6 and it was a good phone (battery was getting bad) but this phone is head and shoulders better! Especially now that we are running the Oreo B8.1! It is super stable and smooth much more than my old Galaxy S6. I was thinking of trying the Oneplus 5t or maybe the new Huawei Mate 10 pro but I am not sure I will be any happier. Never had the Pixel or 2 If they looked this good I'd buy tomorrow!
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What do you think about the photo and video?
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with gcam its very good but very bad stabilization for videos
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with gcam its very good but very bad stabilization for videos
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What app has good stabilization?
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i am a very unhappy user of a huawei device. After having issues with OTA updates and warranty problems, i decided to try and look for a new device.
I looked for this google pixel. Since Pixel 2 is quite expensive, i decided to give a try to the original pixel.
My question is : Is it worth buying either the pixel original or Pixel xl? If yes, which and why.
I want to buy the 128 since the 32 won't keep me in the long run.
I think yes it is still a very relevant phone that has a great processor, camera, and dev community. If you look at the Pixel 2 dev community it is virtually non-existent. I purchased the Pixel 2 when it first came out and while it is a great phone I sold it for something else. Well,,,then I wanted the Pixel experience again so I purchased a great used 128 gb OG pixel and havent looked back since. For the money, I think hands down the OG Pixel is great. Just be sure to get the best buy that you can and ask detailed questions about condition and battery. Hope this helps.
it is still one of the best phone in terms of camera and software side. And for the comparison it can easily be go head to head any 2018 phone camera.And the best thing is now it's price is low enough to purchase. I use both Pixel 1 & Pixel 2 Xl. i can barely see the difference in camera at the daylight and in terms of night time pixel 1 camera is quite enoughh not the best but usuable.
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I think yes it is still a very relevant phone that has a great processor, camera, and dev community. If you look at the Pixel 2 dev community it is virtually non-existent. I purchased the Pixel 2 when it first came out and while it is a great phone I sold it for something else. Well,,,then I wanted the Pixel experience again so I purchased a great used 128 gb OG pixel and havent looked back since. For the money, I think hands down the OG Pixel is great. Just be sure to get the best buy that you can and ask detailed questions about condition and battery. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the suggestion. So i should go for the 5" model or 5'5 model? I heard that XL has a greater battery but it is big for my hands, but if i go for the smaller version, i will gain less battery. So which should i go with?
I like the 5 inch Pixel. I was never really one for the large phones, they are just to big and the battery life for my Pixel has always been great. I would say the battery differences is negligible if you know for a fact that you dont like the larger phones.
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Thanks for the suggestion. So i should go for the 5" model or 5'5 model? I heard that XL has a greater battery but it is big for my hands, but if i go for the smaller version, i will gain less battery. So which should i go with?
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Pixel 1 has a headphone jack, Pixel 2 doesn't
Mic drop....
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I like the 5 inch Pixel. I was never really one for the large phones, they are just to big and the battery life for my Pixel has always been great. I would say the battery differences is negligible if you know for a fact that you dont like the larger phones.
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So, in conclusion, will the 5" model keep me in the long run?
I have bought a refurbished Pixel 1 5inch model, and for me battery life isn't as good as expected. I did some research and found that the battery life on new Pixels isn't much better. Also it gets quite got at heavy gaming. Everything else is great though.
To know whether the battery will last long enough for your usage, check out my post about battery life:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/battery-drain-battery-life-t3821566/post77304745
Hope this is going to help you with your decision.
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I have bought a refurbished Pixel 1 5inch model, and for me battery life isn't as good as expected. I did some research and found that the battery life on new Pixels isn't much better. Also it gets quite got at heavy gaming. Everything else is great though.
To know whether the battery will last long enough for your usage, check out my post about battery life:
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Hope this is going to help you with your decision.
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There is a difference between new and second hand.
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There is a difference between new and second hand.
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That's true. Still, if you read the linked post, I ran a Geekbench battery test, and it got a similar score as new Pixel devices. I just want to point out that the Pixel battery isn't high end, at least not in the small Pixel version.
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i am a very unhappy user of a huawei device. After having issues with OTA updates and warranty problems, i decided to try and look for a new device.
I looked for this google pixel. Since Pixel 2 is quite expensive, i decided to give a try to the original pixel.
My question is : Is it worth buying either the pixel original or Pixel xl? If yes, which and why.
I want to buy the 128 since the 32 won't keep me in the long run.
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If you decide to buy the Pixel 1, just making sure that it's an unlocked version, if you want to unlock the bootloader to install custom ROMs, and not Verizon version.
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If you decide to buy the Pixel 1, just making sure that it's an unlocked version, if you want to unlock the bootloader to install custom ROMs, and not Verizon version.
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I am overseas so there are no carrier locked devices here in the store. But i am still not sure yet if it will be worth my money in the long run.
Ok so i got a good offer. Should i go for the Oneplus 3T 64gb or should i keep looking for a google pixel?
So nobody else recommends me this device?
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So nobody else recommends me this device?
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If want this phone for the quality of photos trade your OnePlus 3T for this, if you want more battery and features keep your OnePlus
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If want this phone for the quality of photos trade your OnePlus 3T for this, if you want more battery and features keep your OnePlus
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I haven't bought Oneplus 3T yet. Neither the google pixel.
I am still skeptical for both devices.
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I haven't bought Oneplus 3T yet. Neither the google pixel.
I am still skeptical for both devices.
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Here is the "Makeup Your Mind" song for you to listen https://youtu.be/QrqBsgr5aYk
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Here is the "Makeup Your Mind" song for you to listen https://youtu.be/QrqBsgr5aYk
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Well Oneplus 3T is mostly for performance, fast charge and gaming.
Pixel XL is for battery, camera, performance and fast charge (using USB-C's "fast" charge, so it doesn't affect battery overtime).
Since Oneplus 3T is out of production and i hate second hand phones, i think i will stick with Pixel XL. If i can't find the XL cheap, i will go for the normal Pixel.
I buy the OG Pixel only for the camera, pie and pixel experience last month for $200 (32gb) is good deal.
The HDR+ in pixel is better than the port one, i have htc10, but the camera lens cover is pop off, so pixel is my 'pocket camera' beside my daily driver phone.
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I buy the OG Pixel only for the camera, pie and pixel experience last month for $200 (32gb) is good deal.
The HDR+ in pixel is better than the port one, i have htc10, but the camera lens cover is pop off, so pixel is my 'pocket camera' beside my daily driver phone.
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How does the battery hold so far based on your usage?
The title.
I am going to buy this phone soon.
Edit. I will skip this phone and get myself a redmi note 7 once it is released globally.(or a poco f1, once the software bugs are fixed.)
Android Pie is coming, sooo
Good development, ****ty community.
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Good development, ****ty community.
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Explain please?
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Explain please?
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Atleast for me, forum seems to be full of people spamming, asking same questions over and over again, not using search. Also crying non stop about everything, having bought the phone for 150usd, and expecting it to be better than say Pixel for 1000usd. I also agree that community is bad. But development is good, a lot of custom roms, been using Pie rom Pixel Experience, runs like stock, no bugs, great performance and battery life. But if i were you, i would wait for redmi note 7.. much nicer design, a bit better soc, and probably better camera. And its gonna cost basically the same, well maybe 10euros more. Its not really logical buying redmi note 5 at this time, when you have newer devices for the same price. Even redmi note 6 costs the same and is newer, but the only upgrade on it is notched screen. RN7 is a real upgrade tho
Ive been on xda forums since 2008 or so, and i would usually buy flagship devices for a ****load of money, and community was always nice. My last 2 devices, were cheap ones from china, leeco le pro 3 and RN5, and in both cases community was way worse.. So i came to conclusion, the cheaper the device is, the ****tier the community is.
The Restless Soul said:
The title.
I am going to buy this phone soon.
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go for poco f1
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The Restless Soul said:
Explain please?
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Atleast for me, forum seems to be full of people spamming, asking same questions over and over again, not using search. Also crying non stop about everything, having bought the phone for 150usd, and expecting it to be better than say Pixel for 1000usd. I also agree that community is bad.
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And don't forget: In this community we have like 5-6 type of people:
- The PUBG user: how's the pubg gameplay plz anyone?
- The SOT lover: I have bad SOT plz dev fix asap
- The random reporter: I have X bug plz dev fix it see the screenshot
- The updates guy: Next update when plz?
- The normal user: we all know them.
Incogn said:
Ive been on xda forums since 2008 or so, and i would usually buy flagship devices for a ****load of money, and community was always nice. My last 2 devices, were cheap ones from china, leeco le pro 3 and RN5, and in both cases community was way worse.. So i came to conclusion, the cheaper the device is, the ****tier the community is.
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Well, in my experience the worst community was with my old S7 edge, that was... my god, a little example: random people building kernels/roms full of bugs and crap, and stupid users paying to be able to use them.
EMONESSboy said:
go for poco f1
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I would go however i don't like the notch design. I can get used to it but why would i want to buy a phone so i can change the software right away?
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Atleast for me, forum seems to be full of people spamming, asking same questions over and over again, not using search. Also crying non stop about everything, having bought the phone for 150usd, and expecting it to be better than say Pixel for 1000usd. I also agree that community is bad. But development is good, a lot of custom roms, been using Pie rom Pixel Experience, runs like stock, no bugs, great performance and battery life. But if i were you, i would wait for redmi note 7.. much nicer design, a bit better soc, and probably better camera. And its gonna cost basically the same, well maybe 10euros more. Its not really logical buying redmi note 5 at this time, when you have newer devices for the same price. Even redmi note 6 costs the same and is newer, but the only upgrade on it is notched screen. RN7 is a real upgrade tho
Ive been on xda forums since 2008 or so, and i would usually buy flagship devices for a ****load of money, and community was always nice. My last 2 devices, were cheap ones from china, leeco le pro 3 and RN5, and in both cases community was way worse.. So i came to conclusion, the cheaper the device is, the ****tier the community is.
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I noticed that most of the people who are on xda are mostly indians. No offence to them but they are extremely dumb (not all of them, only the ones who ask retarded questions about this and that.). I can wait for note 7 however the 48mp camera is a gimmick.
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I noticed that most of the people who are on xda are mostly indians. No offence to them but they are extremely dumb (not all of them, only the ones who ask retarded questions about this and that.). I can wait for note 7 however the 48mp camera is a gimmick.
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Its not a gimmick. Its a really good sensor from samsung, and it uses pixel bining technology. Combining 4pixels into 1, resulting in waaayyy bigger pixels and way more light coming in, resulting in good quality 12mpx photos. RN7 is a midrange device for a budget phone price. You cant get sd660 with all the other goodies for this price anywhere else.
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Its not a gimmick. Its a really good sensor from samsung, and it uses pixel bining technology. Combining 4pixels into 1, resulting in waaayyy bigger pixels and way more light coming in, resulting in good quality 12mpx photos. RN7 is a midrange device for a budget phone price. You cant get sd660 with all the other goodies for this price anywhere else.
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Interesting. I can go with this phone but the glass back, not my cup of tea.
Yes it can be replaceable, but why add a glass back if your phone has no wireless charging?
Also i found a discount on a note 5 pro in my store for just 100 bucks. It expires on 17 january. So what should i do? Buy it or wait?
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Interesting. I can go with this phone but the glass back, not my cup of tea.
Yes it can be replaceable, but why add a glass back if your phone has no wireless charging?
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Because design wise it looks much more premium than aluminium. Also they follow design line of other xiaomi phones. They released mi 8 series with glass back, and if you look at mi 8 light, youll see its the same design as RN7. So, you get new, modern design, and design wise it didnt cost xiaomi anything, because research and development was already done on mi 8 series. If they released another metal phone, looking just like RN5, people would be crying non stop.. They already were crying, because RN4, RN5, RN6 had basically same design..
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Because design wise it looks much more premium than aluminium. Also they follow design line of other xiaomi phones. They released mi 8 series with glass back, and if you look at mi 8 light, youll see its the same design as RN7. So, you get new, modern design, and design wise it didnt cost xiaomi anything, because research and development was already done on mi 8 series. If they released another metal phone, looking just like RN5, people would be crying non stop.. They already were crying, because RN4, RN5, RN6 had basically same design..
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Alright. Strangely that in my country it will cost double but alright. I will look and see how this phone will go.
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Also i found a discount on a note 5 pro in my store for just 100 bucks. It expires on 17 january. So what should i do? Buy it or wait?
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Well, 100usd is a joke of a price. For this hardware, its a bargain. If you dont need that extra 10% performance, better low light photos and more modern design, go for it. You wont find rn7 for 100usd thats for sure.
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Well, 100usd is a joke of a price. For this hardware, its a bargain. If you dont need that extra 10% performance, better low light photos and more modern design, go for it. You wont find rn7 for 100usd thats for sure.
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Alright. I will look and see what i will buy.
The Redmi note 7 seems once again to be a very good phone for the price.
I am very happy with the RN5, updates are regular and I don't matter about dumb people who are always complaining about nothing. I'm not ready to change because I hope Android pie update as announced on the forum ( perhaps increasing photo and video mode) , but I am a bit afraid to loose call recording feature which is a very important functionality for me. As far I know, Android 9 doesn't allow it andI hope it will be still there thanks to Miui.
This is my first Xiaomi and I'm really impressed by the great quality of this smartphone.
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JLLE said:
The Redmi note 7 seems once again to be a very good phone for the price.
I am very happy with the RN5, updates are regular and I don't matter about dumb people who are always complaining about nothing. I'm not ready to change because I hope Android pie update as announced on the forum ( perhaps increasing photo and video mode) , but I am a bit afraid to loose call recording feature which is a very important functionality for me. As far I know, Android 9 doesn't allow it andI hope it will be still there thanks to Miui.
This is my first Xiaomi and I'm really impressed by the great quality of this smartphone.
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I am kinda skeptical about it. Besides, when it arrives in the globe?
JLLE said:
The Redmi note 7 seems once again to be a very good phone for the price.
I am very happy with the RN5, updates are regular and I don't matter about dumb people who are always complaining about nothing. I'm not ready to change because I hope Android pie update as announced on the forum ( perhaps increasing photo and video mode) , but I am a bit afraid to loose call recording feature which is a very important functionality for me. As far I know, Android 9 doesn't allow it andI hope it will be still there thanks to Miui.
This is my first Xiaomi and I'm really impressed by the great quality of this smartphone.
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Yeah its not worth upgrading. But if you are buying, it makes more sense to go for RN7.
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I am kinda skeptical about it. Besides, when it arrives in the globe?
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Perhaps in Q1 2019.
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I have told a few friends that I ordered a 4XL and they aren't really even gadget freaks and they all respond "Oh, why would you do that? Everyone says that phone sucks". I've read through most of the relevant posts on Reddit (real life reviews and not website articles) and it seems like the majority of the people commenting there are satisfied and are getting solid SOT. I am experienced Android user and know how to manage my device so I'm confident that I'll be satisfied with the battery (are people really ever without chargers anymore anyways).
Also, lots of people are sending back the phone because they can't justify the price...so why order it at all?
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I have told a few friends that I ordered a 4XL and they aren't really even gadget freaks and they all respond "Oh, why would you do that? Everyone says that phone sucks". I've read through most of the relevant posts on Reddit (real life reviews and not website articles) and it seems like the majority of the people commenting there are satisfied and are getting solid SOT. I am experienced Android user and know how to manage my device so I'm confident that I'll be satisfied with the battery (are people really ever without chargers anymore anyways).
Also, lots of people are sending back the phone because they can't justify the price...so why order it at all?
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It's annoying. I've had my phone for a week now and I love it. Haters going to hate
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It's annoying. I've had my phone for a week now and I love it. Haters going to hate
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I'm coming from the s10+ and couldn't be happier with the Pixel 4xl. I love it! 100% agree with the two posts right above mine.
I think every year some people want Google to focus on putting everything in a phone including the kitchen sink similar to Samsung but that doesn't translate into a great user experience and is far from Google's philosophy. It's similar to how generally every year people talked about how the iPhone upgrade sucks yet they sale like hotcakes. There are plenty phones with high ram, curved screens, hole punch display etc but on the surface people looking at a sheet of paper will say the phone sucks but after using for a few you will understand the smooth simple consistent user experience. Many reviewers use the phone and find it boring because it's harder to sell and explain the idea of user experience over a higher number on a piece of paper. I have a 4 XL and the phone is great. The other Pixels were plagued with similar negativity also. My battery absolutely last me through the day and as more people post true positive experiences, true battery test etc the negativity will subside.
Coming from the Pixel 2xl, and have had many many devices back to the Evo 4g, this is by far the smoothest, cleanest, seamless experience thus far.
This year alone I've had the Xiaomi Mi 9T, OnePlus 7 Pro, Galaxy S10E and Galaxy Note 10 and now the Pixel 4 XL. Pixel is the best phone hands down. I'm a regular guy (user) who uses their phone like 90% of you all. The smoothness, camera and battery are better in my use then all the devices I listed. I love all these big name YouTube reviewers and watch them to get informed on devices before I buy them but they've all ruined their credibility after all this Pixel bashing.
I like this review that's real and true. For those hating on the phone, "The Google Pixel 4 XL wasn't made for you".
https://youtu.be/q-6x1kjSMrk
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I have told a few friends that I ordered a 4XL and they aren't really even gadget freaks and they all respond "Oh, why would you do that? Everyone says that phone sucks". I've read through most of the relevant posts on Reddit (real life reviews and not website articles) and it seems like the majority of the people commenting there are satisfied and are getting solid SOT. I am experienced Android user and know how to manage my device so I'm confident that I'll be satisfied with the battery (are people really ever without chargers anymore anyways).
Also, lots of people are sending back the phone because they can't justify the price...so why order it at all?
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I think it's because Google failed to impress in many ways. The Pixel 4 is such a disappointment. I really like stock Android. I've had 3 Google phones in a row (Nexus 5, Nexus 5X and currently a Pixel 2 XL). I have always upgrades phones every two years so I was ready for an upgrade. Now I don't know what to do. At this point I'm leaning towards trying to hang on for another year and hope the Pixel 5 isn't a disappointment.
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Your battery life is very atypical compared to all other reports. How is that even possible.
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I think it's because Google failed to impress in many ways. The Pixel 4 is such a disappointment. I really like stock Android. I've had 3 Google phones in a row (Nexus 5, Nexus 5X and currently a Pixel 2 XL). I have always upgrades phones every two years so I was ready for an upgrade. Now I don't know what to do. At this point I'm leaning towards trying to hang on for another year and hope the Pixel 5 isn't a disappointment.
Your battery life is very atypical compared to all other reports. How is that even possible.
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What exactly is a disappoinment about the 4XL?
I love my pixel 4 XL. Haters gonna hate..I'll take my opinion over them
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What exactly is a disappoinment about the 4XL?
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This is the exact root of my frustration. Sees a real life review about battery life and doesn't think it's real. I don't get it....
Most serm to hate this phone (except people who own it)
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Coming from the S9 plus and my new pixel 4 xl is dead smooth and works realy nice...
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The price. We can all agree it's overpriced right? They went for we're premium for Android but "cheaper" than Apple's Pro line approach and it didn't work.
They're gonna either need to drop the price $100 or make up their game like starting 128 GB, brighter screen, wide angle lens, video recording improvements, and at least 3500 mAh on the regular and 4000 mAh on the XL and keep the same price or maybe up it only $50.
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The price. We can all agree it's overpriced right? They went for we're premium for Android but "cheaper" than Apple's Pro line approach and it didn't work.
They're gonna either need to drop the price $100 or make up their game like starting 128 GB, brighter screen, wide angle lens, video recording improvements, and at least 3500 mAh on the regular and 4000 mAh on the XL and keep the same price or maybe up it only $50.
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It's priced just fine.
Screen is plenty bright even in direct sunlight.
Who actually needs a wide angle lens unless you're a photographer then buy a real camera?
What improvements exactly for video recording? I haven't had issues with video recording.
Battery is plenty on the XL. I'm averaging over 6hrs of SOT which is way may than the OnePlus 6T I came from.
Have you actually used a Pixel yourself and held it in your hand to make these accusations or just going based on the Apple Pro fan boys reviews on YouTube?
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It's priced just fine.
Screen is plenty bright even in direct sunlight.
Who actually needs a wide angle lens unless you're a photographer then buy a real camera?
What improvements exactly for video recording? I haven't had issues with video recording.
Battery is plenty on the XL. I'm averaging over 6hrs of SOT which is way may than the OnePlus 6T I came from.
Have you actually used a Pixel yourself and held it in your hand to make these accusations or just going based on the Apple Pro fan boys reviews on YouTube?
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Guess you didn't read my signature? I have had the device for a week and yes, it's overpriced for what it's offering or lacking.
Screen is only 436 nits compared to 800-1000 Samsung and iPhones get.
Nobody needs astrophotography and it's got that. I do use an ultra wide angle lens attachment on my Pixel 2 XL and plan to with my 4 XL. I don't want to carry a "real" camera because I like the computational photography Pixel phones do and the portability.
Video is missing 24 FPS and 60 FPS and HDR like iPhone 11 has. I don't need the FPS but their videos look amazing. And their stabilization has leaped over the Pixel. No I don't want a gimbal.
I had better battery on my 2 XL getting 6-7 hours with the occasional 8 hours SOT. And that's with 24 or so off the charger. I've gotten 5-6 hours SOT on the 4 XL. That's pretty weak.
You're giving a lot of excuses for things that are standard on a flagship device in 2019.
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Guess you didn't read my signature? I have had the device for a week and yes, it's overpriced for what it's offering or lacking.
Screen is only 436 nits compared to 800-1000 Samsung and iPhones get.
Nobody needs astrophotography and it's got that. I do use an ultra wide angle lens attachment on my Pixel 2 XL and plan to with my 4 XL. I don't want to carry a "real" camera because I like the computational photography Pixel phones do and the portability.
Video is missing 24 FPS and 60 FPS and HDR like iPhone 11 has. I don't need the FPS but their videos look amazing. And their stabilization has leaped over the Pixel. No I don't want a gimbal.
I had better battery on my 2 XL getting 6-7 hours with the occasional 8 hours SOT. And that's with 24 or so off the charger. I've gotten 5-6 hours SOT on the 4 XL. That's pretty weak.
You're giving a lot of excuses for things that are standard on a flagship device in 2019.
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I thought you were the other person I quoted. So then sell yours and go buy a Samsung or Apple? If all those features are that important to you.
I guess I don't get the logic that just because the iPhone or Samsung has it, means that it's missing from the Pixel.
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I thought you were the other person I quoted. So then sell yours and go buy a Samsung or Apple? If all those features are that important to you.
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Why's it gotta be all or nothing? I can't criticize my own phone? I can admit is lacking compared to the competition. It's not important enough to me to sell it. I'm all for the Google ecosystem and great software experience.
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I guess I don't get the logic that just because the iPhone or Samsung has it, means that it's missing from the Pixel.
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Because that's what competition does. Pixel phones lead in computational photography and look what Apple did with their stills this year. They lacked our Night Site and now their Night Mode is even better with a lot less night sky noise.
I'm willing to pay the premium for the smoothest Android experience but if you don't even agree that the device is lacking things for the price, aka it's overpriced, you're in denial. Neither of you have justified the prices for the Pixel.
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Now I'm starting to remember why I don't participate on xda much anymore. Every thread somehow turns into some kind of childish debate haha. Pretty silly.
I don't know why I need to justify a purchase on an internet forum. I mean I freely gave up my money for something I wanted. I think that's justified. I don't live by reviews and specs alone.
I had the s10+. I purchased the Pixel 4xl. I liked the Pixel better and kept it over the s10+. That's all the justification I need. :good: