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im i not a pro ? (purchase decision)

so ive been looking to move from my Pixel 3 to a oneplus and.
1- Size:im not into big phones, ive had big ones before and i dont want to go back:
the OP7 is a bit smaller, isnt any noticable on use, or is it just shorte ?
2-Notch:id rather had a teardrop than frankenstein (pop-up)
3- Screen style: straight bezzel is better than curved for me
many complain and i dont think im going to be into the curve
4-Warp charge: would be nice, but not having it aint the end of the world for me
5-Battery: the Non-Pro probably lasts a little more on its 3700 than the 4000 on the pro version taking into consideration the screen ?
6-Resolution and refresh rate: i know ill love it if i see it, but well i can let myself not get used to it, aint that a solution ?
7- MOST IMPORTANT is the camera.... i love my pixel 3 camera and im sad im "downgrading?" but is the OP7 even more of the downgrade from the OP7 pro when it comes to the main shooter if we forget about the wide angle ?
thanks a lot for your time, please weight in
main reason im leaving pixel is that it aint really supported in Norway, so i have problems sometime, no support for 4g calling and wifi-calling which i kinda a killer for me, because im a professional translator and need the call quality
the price difference of 200 euros between OP7 6gb 128gb and OP7P 8gb 256 is not much for me at all, but i just dont want a bigger more expensive phone that i dont really long for currently

If you can buy the op7 pro then go for it.Battery life is better on 7 mainly because of small screen and lower refresh rate and the main shooter performs the same as 7 pro.I personally use op7 and I don't have any complaints

In your case I would by the OP7 (non pro)
I was in the same situation before I bought the standard op7. I also doesn't like the bigger size and the elevator camera. And the curved display is also a con for me.
Camera quality is almost the same if you take normal pictures and nothing special.

Probably the OP7 would work out well...

Camera not great on OnePlus 7 or any other non 7 pro Oneplus,
Maybe go for a Mi 9T or K20 pro or indeed mi 9 which has teardrop notch but good camera,
I would personally get a 7 pro if I didn't already have a 6t.coincidently, I'm thinking of swapping my 6T for a Mi 9T for the greater number of features,better cameras and battery,though am hesitant because I do enjoy quick updates on Oneplus but am realizing a lot of updates are useless updates to weather and other Oneplus apps that you don't need

manus31 said:
Camera not great on OnePlus 7 or any other non 7 pro Oneplus,
Maybe go for a Mi 9T or K20 pro or indeed mi 9 which has teardrop notch but good camera,
I would personally get a 7 pro if I didn't already have a 6t.coincidently, I'm thinking of swapping my 6T for a Mi 9T for the greater number of features,better cameras and battery,though am hesitant because I do enjoy quick updates on Oneplus but am realizing a lot of updates are useless updates to weather and other Oneplus apps that you don't need
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So you didn't have a OP7 and say camera is bad? Makes sense.
I switched from Mi9 to OP7 and I tell you Camera isn't better if you take standard pictures and nothing special. It's almost the same because the main sensor is the same. (48MP Sony IMX 586)

Kollachi said:
So you didn't have a OP7 and say camera is bad? Makes sense.
I switched from Mi9 to OP7 and I tell you Camera isn't better if you take standard pictures and nothing special. It's almost the same because the main sensor is the same. (48MP Sony IMX 586)
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Don't need to have it,read plenty and have the 6T,Ido believe the mi9 is better going on what majority of comparisons I've seen

manus31 said:
Don't need to have it,read plenty and have the 6T,Ido believe the mi9 is better going on what majority of comparisons I've seen
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Believe it or not. OP7 Camera setup isn't the best, that's right but "better" always depends on point of view. It's not right if you say "OP7 is not great". That's absolutely bullsh.. You can take great Pictures even with one less lense.
Btw... I would never trust paid YouTuber...

Kollachi said:
Believe it or not. OP7 Camera setup isn't the best, that's right but "better" always depends on point of view. It's not right if you say "OP7 is not great". That's absolutely bullsh.. You can take great Pictures even with one less lense.
Btw... I would never trust paid YouTuber...
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Sorry for commenting on your new phone dude, your obviously very protective of that bad boy.But having had OnePlus 3,6,and 6T,I still believe OnePlus software is not good enough in the camera department. My 6T sucks without google cam. Xaoimi does it better IMOPO

manus31 said:
Sorry for commenting on your new phone dude, your obviously very protective of that bad boy.But having had OnePlus 3,6,and 6T,I still believe OnePlus software is not good enough in the camera department. My 6T sucks without google cam. Xaoimi does it better IMOPO
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Hi guys! Bought OnePlus 7 last week and have been playing with it for the past few days.
I have had my usage of flagships and budget phone, as my previous smartphones have been Galaxy S1, HTC One X, Motorola Droid RAZR, Xiaomi Mi3, Nexus 6P, Nokia 7 Plus and now OnePlus 7.
I was also very skeptical about the mixed reviews that this phone received for its camera and picture quality but after buying and using it for a brief time period, I am sure of one thing that it certainly is not "GOD level" aka Pixel Camera but the phone is pretty good for the price that is being offered.

Mate 30 Pro is NOT king of camera

Hi to all ?
First of all I have P30 Pro, and last my 2 phones was Mate 20cand P20 Pro. Because thay all are great phones and great camera. So I search new phone with much better camera, don't get me wrong P30 Pro is best in the market for photography but not for video. So I'm searching something good for both. The only thing what can it be is Mate 30 Pro (that what was I aspect).
But in the beginning wierd thing is, they put just Ultra wide angle camera for videography. (this phone spouses to have best video camera, Huawei said that. Every day in every news you can read this). So they put in Mate 30 Pro special sensor for videography. That's sounds good, but results is not good at all. And they put the smallest "ultra wide angle camera in market for now"!!! Sorry DXO Mark, I can't agree with you this time.
I will post some videos down and I will like to hear your comments.
P. S. I know this is not final software on M30P, and I hope someone will make again new video comparison after final software.
1. Mate 30 Pro vs IPhone 11
2. Mate 30 Pro vs P30 Pro
After these videos I really don't know what to say... ? M30P is very good phone, but camera is even not better then P30 Pro.

I would wait until the phone has been released to the public to make allegations. It's hard when only peeps on YouTube have review devices.

I agree with you completely. I've been waiting for this phone to trade my P30 pro for 2 major reasons....the video quality and the damn color balance.
Unfortunately BOTH will not be addressed. Video quality looks on par with flagships now (especially considering with shooting at a much wider field of view) but at the sacrifice of ultra wide angle!! 18mm? seriously? People need ultra wide angle to capture MORE and they they reducing it from 16mm to 18 mm here!
Also the same sensor without color corrections means I'm stuck with the same color inconsistencies like on my P30 pro. White balance is a joke and 3/4 pics are different, skin tones all unnatural and heavy.
I was seriously planning on sourcing this but as you said, it is by no means king of Camera and far from DXO high horse ratings.
...and I still don't know why they never added auto HDR

The mate 30 pro released early than Huawei expected, most of those early reviews on YouTube are not final version, Dxomark had the latest close to final build installed, according to Huawei CEO thats not the final version, let see the future update... I'll say wait for P40 if you looking for camera big improvement that's what P series focused.

Actually, P series is always the master of camera. Then Mate series. if you want better camera, wait for p40 pro, want better quality and performance, buy mate 30 pro

i just watched the dxomark youtube mate 30 pro video. video quality was very high compare to youtubers . there was a compare in 5lux with note 10 plus. it was clear the winner was mate 30 pro. maybe it needs some patch to software. lets see the final product software then talk. Huawei claimed mate 30 pro it is best in video.

ssregitoss said:
i just watched the dxomark youtube mate 30 pro video. video quality was very high compare to youtubers . there was a compare in 5lux with note 10 plus. it was clear the winner was mate 30 pro. maybe it needs some patch to software. lets see the final product software then talk. Huawei claimed mate 30 pro it is best in video.
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Yes in low light, but video is not so good like Samsung. It have problem with dinamic range, like phones with 300 eur price.

isko01 said:
Yes in low light, but video is not so good like Samsung. It have problem with dinamic range, like phones with 300 eur price.
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Agreed. They just can't do video well

Video better after updates. Can't see choppines while panning left and right anymore

Agreed, video recording seems miles better than what I got from before. I've already had 4 system updates since unboxing the phone last week.

isko01 said:
Hi to all ?
First of all I have P30 Pro, and last my 2 phones was Mate 20cand P20 Pro. Because thay all are great phones and great camera. So I search new phone with much better camera, don't get me wrong P30 Pro is best in the market for photography but not for video. So I'm searching something good for both. The only thing what can it be is Mate 30 Pro (that what was I aspect).
But in the beginning wierd thing is, they put just Ultra wide angle camera for videography. (this phone spouses to have best video camera, Huawei said that. Every day in every news you can read this). So they put in Mate 30 Pro special sensor for videography. That's sounds good, but results is not good at all. And they put the smallest "ultra wide angle camera in market for now"!!! Sorry DXO Mark, I can't agree with you this time.
I will post some videos down and I will like to hear your comments.
P. S. I know this is not final software on M30P, and I hope someone will make again new video comparison after final software.
1. Mate 30 Pro vs IPhone 11
2. Mate 30 Pro vs P30 Pro
After these videos I really don't know what to say... ? M30P is very good phone, but camera is even not better then P30 Pro.
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I ditched my P30 Pro for the Note 10 the moment they announced the Mate 30 Pro and confirmed that it will have an RYYB sensor.
The color science is god awful on this sensor, it's way inconsistent, and makes the skin of my kids look pale and dull. My Mate 20 Pro took much better pictures, with vibrant pleasing colors. The night mode on the P30 Pro was also useless, due to the RYYB sensor, the phone would try to correct the colors and 10/10 times, I'll have a green cast all over my pictures.
Even with Google play services, and a much cheaper price, I wouldn't have got this phone, no more RYYB sensors for me.

Maher.k22 said:
I ditched my P30 Pro for the Note 10 the moment they announced the Mate 30 Pro and confirmed that it will have an RYYB sensor.
The color science is god awful on this sensor, it's way inconsistent, and makes the skin of my kids look pale and dull. My Mate 20 Pro took much better pictures, with vibrant pleasing colors. The night mode on the P30 Pro was also useless, due to the RYYB sensor, the phone would try to correct the colors and 10/10 times, I'll have a green cast all over my pictures.
Even with Google play services, and a much cheaper price, I wouldn't have got this phone, no more RYYB sensors for me.
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Same to me. I sell my P30 Pro. Really I can't believe my self. But it was very good price. And I buy Note 10 Plus. I didn't regret. Camera us much better in daylight and indoors. But in no low light but no problem for that, Gcam can fix it

isko01 said:
Same to me. I sell my P30 Pro. Really I can't believe my self. But it was very good price. And I buy Note 10 Plus. I didn't regret. Camera us much better in daylight and indoors. But in no low light but no problem for that, Gcam can fix it
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Nothing can beat the P30 Pro and Mate 30 Pro in complete darkness, but honestly, how many times do you take pictures in extremely dim areas? It was a fun trick to try the 1st few days after buying the P30 Pro, but then it was something that I barely used.

Maher.k22 said:
Nothing can beat the P30 Pro and Mate 30 Pro in complete darkness, but honestly, how many times do you take pictures in extremely dim areas? It was a fun trick to try the 1st few days after buying the P30 Pro, but then it was something that I barely used.
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Yap, thats is it.

Is red tint problem(in low light) + light bulb artifact has been fixed?
Tint+Color shift+Artifact are problem since P30pro using RYYB.
I'm very confused why they still use RYYB If they can't fix it
https://www.gsmarena.com/mate_30_pro_vs_iphone_11_pro_vs_galaxy_note10_camera_compare-news-39381.php

You just posted 2 videos as evidence while ignoring alot of other videos out there. BiG bRaIn move right here.
-Green cast only ocurred if you used nightmode, the thing is you get the same result minus green cast with full automode.
-Color Science its way better than the Mate 20 pro.

Having owned both and since updates have arrived it's 100% better than all those phones.

Now I have both Mate 30 pro & Note 10+.. So far I noticed that the mate 30 pro doesn't have auto focus on front cam, my face gets blurry when I take a selfie at a distance of below 50cm from the phone. It sucks for me, or maybe bec I already get used with my Note 10+ which gives me more detail on selfie either close up or not. Why Huawei never fixed it since P30 Pro I think or even earlier.

I'm impressed with the 7680 frames per second in Slow motion video.

Very impressed with the overall photography and video capture of my M30P.
Weekly updates almost once every week on my CN M30P just make it better and better. I have a strong feeling it blows the stock firmware out of the water too.

Thoughts on the P40 Pro

I know a lot of people (including myself) are bitter about how the updates to our device have been. As much as i want to move away from Huawei I can't help, but lean towards getting the P40 Pro. Mainly towards the camera aspect as I'm a photographer and like having what's essentially a pro camera in my pocket. So what are people's thoughts on the phone? Let's keep the whole Google and Huawei controversy out of the discussion please as we all know how stupid it is, but there are work arounds in the P40 Pro forums so it's nothing that really worries me.

I moved from p30 Pro to P40 pro - The main camera on par with better shots in the dark wors night mode?
Zoom is a lot better, but far from other cameras
Wide 18mm vs 16mm??? Bad move difference with main camera is not so big now and definitely far from Samsung's 13mm.
AI changed a lot especially in wide camera - pictures are not so punchy like P30's
Video is a lot better all over it but the zoom is not very good
Overall good improvement but not overwhelming.
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From:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p40-pro/review/photo-quality-t4067711
Just a Post from the P40pro Board.
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Yes, Google is Possible on the P40pro, but i know this from my Kindle Fire Tablet, i am not really happy with it. (Blocker for me)
Updates: Another Blocker for me.
Bootloader: Another Blocker. (is essential after official Updates for me)
Besides that i am really happy with the Quality of my P20Pro, and i am sad about the above points... and i am sure the P40pro makes phantastic pictures.
https://www.dxomark.com/huawei-p40-front-camera-review/
i also want my next camera with 2 front cameras, i like to take selfies
I also use zoom a lot.
So my next camera will be something like the p40pro , but no more huawei i am afraid.

As good as Huawei hardware is, there is no way I'm ever buying a Huawei phone again unless they roll back their locked bootloader policy. Which they won't.

Nibb31 said:
As good as Huawei hardware is, there is no way I'm ever buying a Huawei phone again unless they roll back their locked bootloader policy. Which they won't.
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What he said.
Never again.
I'll go with the new oneplus 8pro

No matter how good the phone is now, if it doesnt get updates, its dumb.

I'm pretty happy with my p40 pro so far and I migrated from p20 pro about 2weeks now

Manual video recording options

Hi all,
I'm just thinking of buying the Mi Note 10 Pro, because of its battery and camera. I use phone camera mainly (but not only) for video recording (I record some youtube videos from time to time (nothing really complex, vlogs, gameplays and technology reviews), and because of this I use a lot manual controls for white balance, focus and exposure. Right now I'm using a P20 Pro with Filmic pro app, which is working well, but I was thinking on update it, and since the Mi Note 10 Pro has such a great battery and camera (as DxOMark reviewed), as well as good price, I though it could be my update.
But before buying I need to now if there is any possibility of using manual controls over video recording on this device with the stock camera app in global rom, or if it is compatible with FiLMiC Pro app (at least with the main and selfie sensors, which will be my common use), or if there is any other way to achieve this on this device (maybe GCam?).
Will really appreciate any help on solving this doubts, as are my only doubts before buying it.
Thanks!

Hi,
yes it works quite well with FilmicPro (use standard quality option, because Filmic or Filmicextreme is too harsh at some moments). Hope with next update there comes LOG settings mode to Filmic Pro.
Anyway, stock camera does not have manual video options, like Mi 10 or Redmi note 9s. But if note9s has it, probably they will enable it in coming OS updates - hope so..
So at this moment for all 5 lenses working video and manual controls I mostly use modified open camera app by D1G1TE, see thead here, in page 2:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi...-5-cams-opencamera-108mpx-mode-t4016279/page3
All 5 lenses works well, up to 80mbps it works most stable comparing to other camera apps. Very satisfied with this

Thanks for replying!
I was just reading about the modified opencamera, so I guess I can go with it even if filmic pro or xiaomi do not release anything else (will try actual filmic pro version anyway, maybe is good enough for me)
Just ordered the mi note 10 pro now, I guess it will be a good update coming from my p20 pro.
Thanks again for replying!

Mi 10 pro vs OnePlus 8 pro

I bought Oneplus 8 pro because of mi10 pro was not available in time when I have done purchase. I consider now return my 8 pro and buy mi 10 pro? Is it worth to do that? Does mi10 pro is overall really much better than 8 pro? I have a lot of Xiaomi accessories and I am used to Xiaomi smartphone. My one concern is miui... How mi10 pro keep background task and Have you noticed notification issue one this device? It was always a huge pain on Xiaomi device and only one reason which prevent me from swapping right now.

I love my MI 10 PRO.
I come from Oneplus and for now I don't miss its software at all. Miui 11 is doing very well. And when Miui 12 arrives, it'll be much better.
Stereo speakers are great for music, videos, etc.
Fast charging is fantastic, and the screen makes me 8 hours on!!!!

They are 2 good phones. I did the same thing but I will keep the OnePlus 8 pro. Do not disturb mode is essential to me, I need to be available for many times in a month during night hours. I need to receive calls from anyone and no notification sound and on the Mi 10 / Mi 10 pro do not disturb mode doesn't work (like most xiaomi phones). Even in miui 12 beta.
So... There is anything else I can do....

Have had both of them same time..they are both great phones,1+8 litle bit smoothier but with 1H less screen sot,mi 10 pro better speakers(best in phone i have heard till now) screens almost same in terms of quality/brightness..
But there is a but..many people having issues with 1+8 pro screens so its a big deal for me that..overall i can call it like a tie in terms of what to choose.

Grimm-reaper said:
I bought Oneplus 8 pro because of mi10 pro was not available in time when I have done purchase. I consider now return my 8 pro and buy mi 10 pro? Is it worth to do that? Does mi10 pro is overall really much better than 8 pro? I have a lot of Xiaomi accessories and I am used to Xiaomi smartphone. My one concern is miui... How mi10 pro keep background task and Have you noticed notification issue one this device? It was always a huge pain on Xiaomi device and only one reason which prevent me from swapping right now.
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Both phones haves pros and cons.
MI 10 PRO
PROS
Better camera quality with zooms from 2x to 10x. With MIUI 12 it will get better with new functions, night mode 3.0 and new interface.
Better stereo speakers
Good battery life (with 90Hz display it goes from 5 to 8 SoT depending on use) - With MIUI 12 it will receive 120Hz option, i must retest battery life
Good screen (FHD+ is good for resolution and save battery instead of WQHD+)
CONS
108MP camera is not "easy" to use. It's big with a la low f. value. Focus point is very small but natural bokeh is amazing. You should take a lot of pictures to understand how it works.
Big and heavy.
ONEPLUS 8 PRO
PROS
Better UI. Oxygen is faster and smoother
Better support. OnePlus beta is a very good program
Better design of the back
CONS
Good camera setup but not yet a top cameraphone
Battery is slighlty under MI 10 pro (with WQHD and 120HZ from 4 to 5 hours of SoT depending on use - with FHD and 120Hz from 4 to 6 hours)

deus_ex_yue said:
Both phones haves pros and cons.
MI 10 PRO
PROS
Better camera quality with zooms from 2x to 10x. With MIUI 12 it will get better with new functions, night mode 3.0 and new interface.
Better stereo speakers
Good battery life (with 90Hz display it goes from 5 to 8 SoT depending on use) - With MIUI 12 it will receive 120Hz option, i must retest battery life
Good screen (FHD+ is good for resolution and save battery instead of WQHD+)
CONS
108MP camera is not "easy" to use. It's big with a la low f. value. Focus point is very small but natural bokeh is amazing. You should take a lot of pictures to understand how it works.
Big and heavy.
ONEPLUS 8 PRO
PROS
Better UI. Oxygen is faster and smoother
Better support. OnePlus beta is a very good program
Better design of the back
CONS
Good camera setup but not yet a top cameraphone
Battery is slighlty under MI 10 pro (with WQHD and 120HZ from 4 to 5 hours of SoT depending on use - with FHD and 120Hz from 4 to 6 hours)
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Hello,about 120HZ on MIUI 12 did you read it somewhere or you just believe that will be?
Thanks in advance.

You missed the wonderful fast charge of the MI 10 PRO. I'm totally impressed.
About the battery life is spectacular. I do 8 hours of screen!!!
About the software, I have to say that my previous mobile was Oneplus and to this day, they don't miss anything.
Miui 11 is a marvel and tomorrow now comes Miui 12 which will be even better.

Jinthegodstyle said:
Hello,about 120HZ on MIUI 12 did you read it somewhere or you just believe that will be?
Thanks in advance.
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MIUI internal test firmware on Mi 10 pro.

deus_ex_yue said:
MIUI internal test firmware on Mi 10 pro.
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Wow.. that's awesome! Good to have it for try.. not necessary to have it because of battery drain,but to be there for some times it's nice!

deus_ex_yue said:
MIUI internal test firmware on Mi 10 pro.
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Does it work?

I come from the OP7 Pro, mainly switched to the Mi 10 Pro because of the camera. Also, the OP8 pro looks too similar to my Op7 Pro IMO. These also got rid of the amazing popup camera. The screen on the op8 pro ist way too curvy at the edge IMO. You can unlock the bootloader on both of them. MIUI 11 runs perfect for me, but Oxygen OS is also perfect IMO.
Just pick the one you prefer.

I come from OnePlus 8 pro and I don't get the fuzz about oxygen os which is very poooooor compared to miui !!!
For example.
In xiaomi.eu rom the music player can act exactly like YouTube premium. No ads and can play in the background
With mi browser YouTube with no ads and you can easily download media from Facebook and Instagram.
Actually there is a video tools can make any video app play in the background
Plus battery life and charging speeds
Speakers quality
Camera is better quality and functions
Qhd is nice. But nah.

vodovodo said:
I come from OnePlus 8 pro and I don't get the fuzz about oxygen os which is very poooooor compared to miui !!!
For example.
In xiaomi.eu rom the music player can act exactly like YouTube premium. No ads and can play in the background
With mi browser YouTube with no ads and you can easily download media from Facebook and Instagram.
Actually there is a video tools can make any video app play in the background
Plus battery life and charging speeds
Speakers quality
Camera is better quality and functions
Qhd is nice. But nah.
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Oxygen os is known to be a snappy os. Do you find it snappier than miui?

First of all trust me It is OVERRATED!
Used to be the snappiest yes but not anymore for a long time. Please check phonebuff speed test between the oneplus 7 pro and Samsung note 10 plus... Yes Samsung oneui !!!! and you will be shocked that even Samsung is faster!
It's a poor limited os compared to others! Reviewers is paid to say it's snappy. That's all

MI 10 Pro: 10/10

deus_ex_yue said:
MIUI internal test firmware on Mi 10 pro.
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Thats Not the Mi 10 pro.
Thats the Mi 10pro PLUS which will come Out soon.