Has Samsung fixed the Bluetooth codecs? - Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers

I'm interested in upgrading but Samsung often lacks on the Bluetooth department.
I had a bad experience with them as they dropped UHQ audio but now the Samsung website listed it again in the specs.
Yet, doesn't say if this UHQ over Bluetooth?
Because UHQ over analog means absolutely NOTHING.
How to check?
Enable Developer settings and in the Bluetooth section it should have 24 bit and 32 bit options as the most common codecs AptXHD, LDAC, Samsung Scalable.
Note, this is not the gimmicky upscaler, but the availability to stream DSD or Flac over Bluetooth in a decent quality.
Sadly since the S8 Plus, I haven't been able to play DSDs over Bluetooth, not the Note9 nor the S20.
Has anyone tested HiRes playback on the Note 20 Ultra?
Thanks .

No such thing. With bt you're sort of boned*
Sorry
The bloody bt chipset doesn't support AptX-HD which is the best "lossless" bt codec.
Sammy boned us again... let them feel your wuv.
Same garbage as on the 10+
*The Samsung Bud+ etc use the proprietary Samsung Scalable codec which is as good as it gets for them.
Better than SBC but nothing near 24 bit.
If you bt device supports the Sony

I recently changed my phone out from a Galaxy S8 to a Samsung S20 FE, and I noticed the "Bluetooth Audio LDAC Codec Playback Quality" is greyed out. I believe this option allows me to change settings to a higher quality, but I can't do it.
Attached is a screen shot of the developers option on my old S9 that shows I can set this option, even without the device attached.
Does the bluMe receiver have limitations with pairing? I played some streaming radio, including 320kbps sites from Europe, and the quality was OK but not supurb.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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dkix1ey said:
I recently changed my phone out from a Galaxy S8 to a Samsung S20 FE, and I noticed the "Bluetooth Audio LDAC Codec Playback Quality" is greyed out. I believe this option allows me to change settings to a higher quality, but I can't do it.
Attached is a screen shot of the developers option on my old S9 that shows I can set this option, even without the device attached.
Does the bluMe receiver have limitations with pairing? I played some streaming radio, including 320kbps sites from Europe, and the quality was OK but not supurb.
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Sorry for the long delay.
Do you have a LDAC device coupled with it?

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Audio Latency Problem,

I have been trying a few audio latency (ms) apps and i'm getting around 150-200 ms. Which makes Android phones in general unusable when using apps for music creation or timing or rhythm based games.
Is there any way i can root it and fix this using a different codec or driver?
Will this be improved in Android Q?
iPhones for example usually has a latency (ms) of between 8 and 22 ms.
Any news on this or fixes or something i can do myself?
Are you actually using YouTube, Netflix Hulu, or others and see the latency? I see no latency in any videos or the few games I play. I'm also using wireless Bullets.
Where did you get that high numbers?
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I get it when connected to the stereo in my car via Bluetooth and play YouTube content.
hpsauce37 said:
I get it when connected to the stereo in my car via Bluetooth and play YouTube content.
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Bluetooth has notoriously high latency. If it's not using AptX low latency, it's going to be in the 100-200's
Here's a receiver transmitter combo you can put in your car.
https://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Blu...w+latency&qid=1560636526&s=electronics&sr=1-4
dubt17 said:
Bluetooth has notoriously high latency. If it's not using AptX low latency, it's going to be in the 100-200's
Here's a receiver transmitter combo you can put in your car.
https://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Blu...w+latency&qid=1560636526&s=electronics&sr=1-4
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While this is typically true, I have had devices when using an iPhone connected via Bluetooth that have seemingly no latency.
For years iOS has always had better latency than Android. It is exactly why Android doesn't have as much music creation apps or rhythm games as iOS.
Even a Google search of "iOS vs Android audio latency" backs this up with tons of articles, tests, and reports about it.
You can improve the latency in developers option as well. Use the codec that matches your headphones or device. It by default uses a generic codec compatible with most devices. Also you could change the sample rate.
Version of bt
I'm really sad about that all you guys forget there is 2 device if you speak about Bluetooth connection. So useless ur OnePlus have bt 5.0 what can have 8 Ms latency if u use an old crappy Chinese headphones with bt 2.0 . For example my headphones have almost zero latency till in my 2012 Peugeot the music is 5 sec late !

Note 10 Lite Exynos/DAC + Audio Quality?

Just ordered this phone and trying to find out a little more information about the audio quality.
I know the phone has the Exynos 9810 chip and from what I've read/found it may come with a Cirrus Logic chip but not 100% sure which one.
Would any of you guys have any more specific information on the audio quality for the headphone jack specifically?
I've currently got an LG V30 and I know it won't be as good, but I'm hoping it will be good enough.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, here is the answer from Samsung support from Russia:
The Galaxy Note10 Lite phone has an audio processor, Hi-Fi DAC Cirrus Logic CS47L93, 32 bit, with support for Dolby Atmos.
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pavlin0712 said:
Hi, here is the answer from Samsung support from Russia:
The Galaxy Note10 Lite phone has an audio processor, Hi-Fi DAC Cirrus Logic CS47L93, 32 bit, with support for Dolby Atmos.
I apologize for possible mistakes, wrote via Google Translate
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Thank you! Sounds promising, have you had any personal experience with that particular audio processor?
OGNinjaDon said:
Thank you! Sounds promising, have you had any personal experience with that particular audio processor?
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Audio output is just fine don't expect much. Sound is crystal clear from stock headphones but not loud now I have realme wireless band with 11.2 driver size same case here also but if you use apps like poweramp and tweak audio settings output can be pretty good.
And dolby of this device is just waste doesn't do anything special. I hope this helps your question
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Thank you! Sounds promising, have you had any personal experience with that particular audio processor?
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Unfortunately, I can't say anything about your question, because at work I use budget headphones with poor sound.

Question HI-RES Audio 24 Bit

Hello,
When listening to music, my 24 bit Flac audio files are played down to 16 bits. This is the case with bluetooth headset, wired headset, and its own speaker. I tried many music players. (Samsung music, poweramp, jetaudio etc.) When I look at the developer options, the 24 Bit feature appears to be passive.
I am waiting for your help in this matter. I bought this phone because it has this feature. Otherwise I would buy Mi 11 lite. I hope I will not regret it.
This seems yo be the case with me too.
I would suggest not using Bluetooth as it cannot play hi-res files. Over aux however, I use Poweramp and changed the setting to hi-res output. Even so,my 24 bit FLAC files get downsampled to 16bit. The A52 as far as I know doesn't have a dedicated dac like LG phones used to. Since there isn't any information on samsung website. Qualcomm does mention that 720g comes with support.
An external DAC would work, but that inferres lugging around another piece of tech in your already bulky pocket.
Any help would be great!
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Any new info on this matter? Im thinking of getting this phone and audio is a really important subject to me.
Does poweramp support hd playback on this device or is a external DAC required?
Bt isn't bandwidth capable of supporting 24 bit throughput.
UHQ Upscaler must be enable for hi res output via the C port. That toggle is found in Sound Assistant if you're using it and in Settings.
spannerwindalayer said:
Any new info on this matter? Im thinking of getting this phone and audio is a really important subject to me.
Does poweramp support hd playback on this device or is a external DAC required?
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This post is a bit old but may help for people searching for Playback of High Resolution Audio.
I am using a FiiO BRT5 with LDAC Bluetooth Codec with Samsung Note10. Its has the highest throw power in wireless high resolution Audio.
Incase of any other brand of mobile phone or bluetooth headphones or amp, make sure ot supports LDAC on both end, LDAC was proprietary of Sony but its now supported by Android as well.
I saw something about Hi-Res audio being only played through the USB C port on USB C earphones and headsets? I think RayOS enabled it on the 3.5mm port too but I might be wrong.
Esim40 said:
This post is a bit old but may help for people searching for Playback of High Resolution Audio.
I am using a FiiO BRT5 with LDAC Bluetooth Codec with Samsung Note10. Its has the highest throw power in wireless high resolution Audio.
Incase of any other brand of mobile phone or bluetooth headphones or amp, make sure ot supports LDAC on both end, LDAC was proprietary of Sony but its now supported by Android as well.
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In the end i got the phone, and yes, it tells me it's playing at 24 bit/192khz (using hi-res output, it can go further but i dont trust if it's really going that far and anything over 192khz it lowers the volume.)

Question Bluetooth audio delay and greyed out BT codec options

Hi,
In my car BT is always delayed. Headphones - ok.
The only advice I found - experiment with different codecs.
But all of them are greyed in Developer options.
Can you change bt codec in your S22 Ultras?
Any other way to solve delay problems?
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PS: don't blame my car the phone is the problem
If these options are greyed out...it means that the device (your car) doesn't support these codes. Unfortunately...we have to blame the car.
If you can give us more information about the car...and the stereo...maybe we can get more information...but looking at the greyed out options...this system only supports SBC...the minimum bluetooth requirement.
What do you mean by "delay"? Is there latency happening somewhere?
Greyed out codec options means the connected device (in this case, your car's head unit) doesn't support that codec.
Some codecs, like aptX and LDAC, support things like higher bandwidth, but your source signal (i.e., from your phone) needs to be equally good or better (think FLAC files or other lossless audio) for the benefits of of a more modern BT codec to be realized. It's like judging all music through laptop speakers (or our S22U speakers lol), there's a weak link in the chain before it ever reaches your ear.
If I had to guess I would speculate that the underlying cause of whatever delay you're experiencing is due to something else other than BT codecs. But without more info, hard to say.
It's the car. I have the same latency issue when watching videos while playing the audio through my car's BT system.
pjaysnowden said:
If these options are greyed out...it means that the device (your car) doesn't support these codes. Unfortunately...we have to blame the car.
If you can give us more information about the car...and the stereo...maybe we can get more information...but looking at the greyed out options...this system only supports SBC...the minimum bluetooth requirement.
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Those are greyed out even when my phone is not connected to my car.
You can see in the screenshot that there's no BT connection.
So it's the phone.. not the car. Car is sleeping in the parking lot
Is your BT codec option selection active or not?
Khiraji said:
What do you mean by "delay"? Is there latency happening somewhere?
Greyed out codec options means the connected device (in this case, your car's head unit) doesn't support that codec.
Some codecs, like aptX and LDAC, support things like higher bandwidth, but your source signal (i.e., from your phone) needs to be equally good or better (think FLAC files or other lossless audio) for the benefits of of a more modern BT codec to be realized. It's like judging all music through laptop speakers (or our S22U speakers lol), there's a weak link in the chain before it ever reaches your ear.
If I had to guess I would speculate that the underlying cause of whatever delay you're experiencing is due to something else other than BT codecs. But without more info, hard to say.
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Codec selection options are not available even when my phone is not connected to my car or any other BT speaker.
Please check BT codec selection in Developer options. Can you change the codec?
bat0nas said:
Those are greyed out even when my phone is not connected to my car.
You can see in the screenshot that there's no BT connection.
So it's the phone.. not the car. Car is sleeping in the parking lot
Is your BT codec option selection active or not?
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Yes...this is also normal. You can't select a codec until it is connected to a device.
They will all be greyed out...until you connect...and then, whichever codecs the Bluetooth device can decode with light up.
But you know best.....

Question Does it have support for aptX HD audio?

Hello,
In google specification sheet it's not specified, and in gsmarena specification sheet it's missing (although 7 and 7 PRO has it)
Gsmarena comparision of 7a / 7 / 7 PRO
Could someone who has the 7a check if it has aptX HD audo support?
To check it: Settings -> System -> Developer options -> click on Bluetooth Audio Codec to see all available codecs.
Thank You in advance.
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Thank You for checking!
If I am not mistaken you must have a compatible Bluetooth device connected for it to be available. I know the options do not light up on my phone until then but I do not have aptx hd headphones to answer this question myself.
tbucsclw said:
If I am not mistaken you must have a compatible Bluetooth device connected for it to be available. I know the options do not light up on my phone until then but I do not have aptx hd headphones to answer this question myself.
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Can confirm aptX and aptX HD are available in GrapheneOS once compatible headphones are connected, surely they are available in stock as well.
For some reason AAC is not available though (on GrapheneOS at least), despite my headphones (SoundMAGIC P23BT) supporting it and it being available on other devices.
My aac lights up and works on my headphones on paranoid.
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My aac lights up and works on my headphones on paranoid.
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I see, thanks. Probably just not on GrapheneOS then for the time being. I use aptX anyway, so no problem there.
Thank You all for responses.
I did buy the pixel 7a and can confirm now too that it has BT HD support and it works fine
Tested with Fiio BTR3 (using stock Android 13 and 14 beta)

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