Question HI-RES Audio 24 Bit - Samsung Galaxy A52 4G

Hello,
When listening to music, my 24 bit Flac audio files are played down to 16 bits. This is the case with bluetooth headset, wired headset, and its own speaker. I tried many music players. (Samsung music, poweramp, jetaudio etc.) When I look at the developer options, the 24 Bit feature appears to be passive.
I am waiting for your help in this matter. I bought this phone because it has this feature. Otherwise I would buy Mi 11 lite. I hope I will not regret it.

This seems yo be the case with me too.
I would suggest not using Bluetooth as it cannot play hi-res files. Over aux however, I use Poweramp and changed the setting to hi-res output. Even so,my 24 bit FLAC files get downsampled to 16bit. The A52 as far as I know doesn't have a dedicated dac like LG phones used to. Since there isn't any information on samsung website. Qualcomm does mention that 720g comes with support.
An external DAC would work, but that inferres lugging around another piece of tech in your already bulky pocket.
Any help would be great!
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Any new info on this matter? Im thinking of getting this phone and audio is a really important subject to me.
Does poweramp support hd playback on this device or is a external DAC required?

Bt isn't bandwidth capable of supporting 24 bit throughput.
UHQ Upscaler must be enable for hi res output via the C port. That toggle is found in Sound Assistant if you're using it and in Settings.

spannerwindalayer said:
Any new info on this matter? Im thinking of getting this phone and audio is a really important subject to me.
Does poweramp support hd playback on this device or is a external DAC required?
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This post is a bit old but may help for people searching for Playback of High Resolution Audio.
I am using a FiiO BRT5 with LDAC Bluetooth Codec with Samsung Note10. Its has the highest throw power in wireless high resolution Audio.
Incase of any other brand of mobile phone or bluetooth headphones or amp, make sure ot supports LDAC on both end, LDAC was proprietary of Sony but its now supported by Android as well.

I saw something about Hi-Res audio being only played through the USB C port on USB C earphones and headsets? I think RayOS enabled it on the 3.5mm port too but I might be wrong.

Esim40 said:
This post is a bit old but may help for people searching for Playback of High Resolution Audio.
I am using a FiiO BRT5 with LDAC Bluetooth Codec with Samsung Note10. Its has the highest throw power in wireless high resolution Audio.
Incase of any other brand of mobile phone or bluetooth headphones or amp, make sure ot supports LDAC on both end, LDAC was proprietary of Sony but its now supported by Android as well.
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In the end i got the phone, and yes, it tells me it's playing at 24 bit/192khz (using hi-res output, it can go further but i dont trust if it's really going that far and anything over 192khz it lowers the volume.)

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Have any of you used a "Type-C (audio) Digital Decoding OFC Cable" like this :

Have any of you used a "Type-C (audio) Digital Decoding OFC Cable" like this :
Link : Original KZ Type-C 0.75mm Digital Decoding OFC Upgrade Cable
Does it really help?
I don't have a type C earphone. So was considering this + a KZ earphone like
https://www.gearbest.com/earphones/pp_009772302190.html
they work perfektly
im using usb audio player pro - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro
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have you looked at the kz zsr 3 ways they are awesome to
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xda2014 said:
Link : Original KZ Type-C 0.75mm Digital Decoding OFC Upgrade Cable
Does it really help?
I don't have a type C earphone. So was considering this + a KZ earphone like
https://www.gearbest.com/earphones/pp_009772302190.html
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I don't have a type C earphone. So was considering this + a KZ earphone like
https://www.gearbest.com/earphones/pp_009772302190.html[/QUOTE]
I use this one: https://www.soundphilereview.com/reviews/venture-electronics-odyssey-review-2833/
Venture Odyssey. Very cheap (approx. 10€ + transport in Aliexpress). I'm very happy. The sound is very good. The volume is enough for me. It includes a OTG connector so you can use it on your PC. The DAC is better than the internal A2 DAC, and also better than most PCs.
I'm sure that any USB-c DAC improves the sound of our A2 very much.
Best regards
I decided to skip the A2 after reading the forums here.
But :
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/ve-...pressions-thread.886989/page-15#post-14739702
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but the DAC in the odyssey appears to be a Realtek ALC298, which is a 13 year old USB2.0 16bit 48khz dac (datasheet talks about 192khz support, but I'm not smart enough to understand the datasheet 100%). Windows lists the Hardware ID as "USB\VID_0BDA&PID_4040&REV_0000&MI_00" which returns the ALC298 on google. I'm not confident in this being correct however, since it's a generic driver, and the hardware ID may not be correct.
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The current fave at Head Fi is this :
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/hidizs-sonata-hd-dac-cable-new-tiny-and-mighty-dac-amp.880478/unread
@SpuTniC_23 @alejandro.pastrana
Does a Type C dac/amp use a lot of battery power?
nope it doesnt use that much it also depend on the resistance of the headphone and how loud - the right slider is the volume any louder and youu will ruin your ears
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I am using letv cdla type c earphones which are giving osm sounds and at night they glow in Orange colour
xda2014 said:
Link : Original KZ Type-C 0.75mm Digital Decoding OFC Upgrade Cable
Does it really help?
I don't have a type C earphone. So was considering this + a KZ earphone like
https://www.gearbest.com/earphones/pp_009772302190.html
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I made a usb c headphone by using a broken type c to 3.5mm converter (with the usb part , pcb intact with Realtek DAC ship) and a broken set of earphones and assembled to solder them together. It's working like a charm with a very good audio, calling as well as good enough noise cancellation through the mic.

Audio Latency Problem,

I have been trying a few audio latency (ms) apps and i'm getting around 150-200 ms. Which makes Android phones in general unusable when using apps for music creation or timing or rhythm based games.
Is there any way i can root it and fix this using a different codec or driver?
Will this be improved in Android Q?
iPhones for example usually has a latency (ms) of between 8 and 22 ms.
Any news on this or fixes or something i can do myself?
Are you actually using YouTube, Netflix Hulu, or others and see the latency? I see no latency in any videos or the few games I play. I'm also using wireless Bullets.
Where did you get that high numbers?
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I get it when connected to the stereo in my car via Bluetooth and play YouTube content.
hpsauce37 said:
I get it when connected to the stereo in my car via Bluetooth and play YouTube content.
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Bluetooth has notoriously high latency. If it's not using AptX low latency, it's going to be in the 100-200's
Here's a receiver transmitter combo you can put in your car.
https://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Blu...w+latency&qid=1560636526&s=electronics&sr=1-4
dubt17 said:
Bluetooth has notoriously high latency. If it's not using AptX low latency, it's going to be in the 100-200's
Here's a receiver transmitter combo you can put in your car.
https://www.amazon.com/Avantree-Blu...w+latency&qid=1560636526&s=electronics&sr=1-4
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While this is typically true, I have had devices when using an iPhone connected via Bluetooth that have seemingly no latency.
For years iOS has always had better latency than Android. It is exactly why Android doesn't have as much music creation apps or rhythm games as iOS.
Even a Google search of "iOS vs Android audio latency" backs this up with tons of articles, tests, and reports about it.
You can improve the latency in developers option as well. Use the codec that matches your headphones or device. It by default uses a generic codec compatible with most devices. Also you could change the sample rate.
Version of bt
I'm really sad about that all you guys forget there is 2 device if you speak about Bluetooth connection. So useless ur OnePlus have bt 5.0 what can have 8 Ms latency if u use an old crappy Chinese headphones with bt 2.0 . For example my headphones have almost zero latency till in my 2012 Peugeot the music is 5 sec late !

Has Samsung fixed the Bluetooth codecs?

I'm interested in upgrading but Samsung often lacks on the Bluetooth department.
I had a bad experience with them as they dropped UHQ audio but now the Samsung website listed it again in the specs.
Yet, doesn't say if this UHQ over Bluetooth?
Because UHQ over analog means absolutely NOTHING.
How to check?
Enable Developer settings and in the Bluetooth section it should have 24 bit and 32 bit options as the most common codecs AptXHD, LDAC, Samsung Scalable.
Note, this is not the gimmicky upscaler, but the availability to stream DSD or Flac over Bluetooth in a decent quality.
Sadly since the S8 Plus, I haven't been able to play DSDs over Bluetooth, not the Note9 nor the S20.
Has anyone tested HiRes playback on the Note 20 Ultra?
Thanks .
No such thing. With bt you're sort of boned*
Sorry
The bloody bt chipset doesn't support AptX-HD which is the best "lossless" bt codec.
Sammy boned us again... let them feel your wuv.
Same garbage as on the 10+
*The Samsung Bud+ etc use the proprietary Samsung Scalable codec which is as good as it gets for them.
Better than SBC but nothing near 24 bit.
If you bt device supports the Sony
I recently changed my phone out from a Galaxy S8 to a Samsung S20 FE, and I noticed the "Bluetooth Audio LDAC Codec Playback Quality" is greyed out. I believe this option allows me to change settings to a higher quality, but I can't do it.
Attached is a screen shot of the developers option on my old S9 that shows I can set this option, even without the device attached.
Does the bluMe receiver have limitations with pairing? I played some streaming radio, including 320kbps sites from Europe, and the quality was OK but not supurb.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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dkix1ey said:
I recently changed my phone out from a Galaxy S8 to a Samsung S20 FE, and I noticed the "Bluetooth Audio LDAC Codec Playback Quality" is greyed out. I believe this option allows me to change settings to a higher quality, but I can't do it.
Attached is a screen shot of the developers option on my old S9 that shows I can set this option, even without the device attached.
Does the bluMe receiver have limitations with pairing? I played some streaming radio, including 320kbps sites from Europe, and the quality was OK but not supurb.
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Sorry for the long delay.
Do you have a LDAC device coupled with it?

android ts10 authorization code activation

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hi all,
does anyone know how to get the authorization code for this android ts10
this for the theme
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hi all,
does anyone know how to get the authorization code for this android ts10
this for the theme
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You have to pay to activate on a yearly basis. Here is the cheapest option currently avaliable:
£6.84 35%OFF | Theme activation code, the activation code is valid for one year
https://a.aliexpress.com/_vF6HKC
I want the activation code how to gate code..?
New here. I'd like to start a TS10 Audio specific thread but I think i'm too new for that.
I did some testing. My unit only has Front L/R RCA outputs, is that the norm? I do not have sub out either. I measured the voltage of the RCAs at an abysmal .86 volts. I also played with the SPDIF using a PROZOR Digital to Analog converter. Given there is no setting for SPDIF other than bitrate selection, this is a 2-channel output using PCM/LPCM by default meaning no 5.1. The SPDIF signal looked healthy with an oscilloscope meaning low/no clipping from the output. However, I don't have a tool to measure the frequency range. The SPDIF voltage wasn't usable with that USB powered converter at a measly .46 volts btw.
I installed a 5-channel amp before I started reading up on this and a i'm thinking the only way is to install a line output converter into an eq that is 1in/3out RCAs as a $1k plus Optical input amp isn't in the cards or high dollar DSP. I know i'll be forfeiting the headunits internal phasing, delay, fader controls by doing this. However, that appears to be the case no matter which option I choose. This is the bummer with these units. They're feature rich DSP is exclusively limited to their cheap/poor onboard amplifier.
Has anyone else gone down this road yet with a clean cost-effective solution?
rnakpatel said:
You have to pay to activate on a yearly basis. Here is the cheapest option currently avaliable:
£6.84 35%OFF | Theme activation code, the activation code is valid for one year
https://a.aliexpress.com/_vF6HKC
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Can you provide a different link for carmate tracking app. This one seems to expired.
remudapro said:
New here. I'd like to start a TS10 Audio specific thread but I think i'm too new for that.
I did some testing. My unit only has Front L/R RCA outputs, is that the norm? I do not have sub out either. I measured the voltage of the RCAs at an abysmal .86 volts. I also played with the SPDIF using a PROZOR Digital to Analog converter. Given there is no setting for SPDIF other than bitrate selection, this is a 2-channel output using PCM/LPCM by default meaning no 5.1. The SPDIF signal looked healthy with an oscilloscope meaning low/no clipping from the output. However, I don't have a tool to measure the frequency range. The SPDIF voltage wasn't usable with that USB powered converter at a measly .46 volts btw.
I installed a 5-channel amp before I started reading up on this and a i'm thinking the only way is to install a line output converter into an eq that is 1in/3out RCAs as a $1k plus Optical input amp isn't in the cards or high dollar DSP. I know i'll be forfeiting the headunits internal phasing, delay, fader controls by doing this. However, that appears to be the case no matter which option I choose. This is the bummer with these units. They're feature rich DSP is exclusively limited to their cheap/poor onboard amplifier.
Has anyone else gone down this road yet with a clean cost-effective solution?
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Hi, are your problem solved already? If not, hope this will help. And make sure your player got dsp eq. I already make it to support 5channel refer from this picture bcoz i'm also use 5ch power amp.

Question Bluetooth audio delay and greyed out BT codec options

Hi,
In my car BT is always delayed. Headphones - ok.
The only advice I found - experiment with different codecs.
But all of them are greyed in Developer options.
Can you change bt codec in your S22 Ultras?
Any other way to solve delay problems?
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PS: don't blame my car the phone is the problem
If these options are greyed out...it means that the device (your car) doesn't support these codes. Unfortunately...we have to blame the car.
If you can give us more information about the car...and the stereo...maybe we can get more information...but looking at the greyed out options...this system only supports SBC...the minimum bluetooth requirement.
What do you mean by "delay"? Is there latency happening somewhere?
Greyed out codec options means the connected device (in this case, your car's head unit) doesn't support that codec.
Some codecs, like aptX and LDAC, support things like higher bandwidth, but your source signal (i.e., from your phone) needs to be equally good or better (think FLAC files or other lossless audio) for the benefits of of a more modern BT codec to be realized. It's like judging all music through laptop speakers (or our S22U speakers lol), there's a weak link in the chain before it ever reaches your ear.
If I had to guess I would speculate that the underlying cause of whatever delay you're experiencing is due to something else other than BT codecs. But without more info, hard to say.
It's the car. I have the same latency issue when watching videos while playing the audio through my car's BT system.
pjaysnowden said:
If these options are greyed out...it means that the device (your car) doesn't support these codes. Unfortunately...we have to blame the car.
If you can give us more information about the car...and the stereo...maybe we can get more information...but looking at the greyed out options...this system only supports SBC...the minimum bluetooth requirement.
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Those are greyed out even when my phone is not connected to my car.
You can see in the screenshot that there's no BT connection.
So it's the phone.. not the car. Car is sleeping in the parking lot
Is your BT codec option selection active or not?
Khiraji said:
What do you mean by "delay"? Is there latency happening somewhere?
Greyed out codec options means the connected device (in this case, your car's head unit) doesn't support that codec.
Some codecs, like aptX and LDAC, support things like higher bandwidth, but your source signal (i.e., from your phone) needs to be equally good or better (think FLAC files or other lossless audio) for the benefits of of a more modern BT codec to be realized. It's like judging all music through laptop speakers (or our S22U speakers lol), there's a weak link in the chain before it ever reaches your ear.
If I had to guess I would speculate that the underlying cause of whatever delay you're experiencing is due to something else other than BT codecs. But without more info, hard to say.
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Codec selection options are not available even when my phone is not connected to my car or any other BT speaker.
Please check BT codec selection in Developer options. Can you change the codec?
bat0nas said:
Those are greyed out even when my phone is not connected to my car.
You can see in the screenshot that there's no BT connection.
So it's the phone.. not the car. Car is sleeping in the parking lot
Is your BT codec option selection active or not?
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Yes...this is also normal. You can't select a codec until it is connected to a device.
They will all be greyed out...until you connect...and then, whichever codecs the Bluetooth device can decode with light up.
But you know best.....

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