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Disclaimer: This is an open discussion thread for How to do virtualization on Android! It's not a reference or guide! But hope this thread can lead us towards making a way to do it!
Intro: Once phones was a tiny piece of electronic device which was mainly used to talk and sending text messages! (I am talking about mobile phones off course! )
Then here comes smartphones like the symbian one and then iphones and Android!
They opened a lot more way to do on a device rather than only talking or texting!
But still we needed to rely on laptops or desktops to do extensive tasks which we couldn't do (yet) on smartphones!
The main reason was the lack of technology or the memory and processing power limitations on these device!
I remember I bought my first Redmi 2 at a cost of 200$ back in April 2015 which featured quadcore Qualcomm processor, 1GB of RAM and 8 GB of internal storage space!
But now the time has changed! Technology advanced exponentially! After 3 years of my first Xiaomi device, I bought another one (Mi A1) with almost the same price! Whuch features double (on the basis of cores) processors and 4X RAM and 8X internal spaces!
In the mean time on the mainstream computing counterpart, virtualization technology becomes so popular that if not all but most of the servers runs based on it! We have also docker now!
We can now use or test any software/OS on any device (mainstream computers off course) by the grace of virtualization!
On the other hand, Android devs still needs to do the hard work to port ROMs let the OS itself! And yet we can't run Windows on a Android device!
But wait! Android is also a Linux! Isn't it?
So, if Linux can run QUEMU/KVM, why not Android?
And most of the Android SOCs now are 64bit!
So, can't we just make it happen? Can't we just find a way to do virtualization and run any OS on a virtual environment right in our hand?
May be!
I don't know if any guys working on this or not!
But here's how to:
1) Enable virtualization support on kernel
2) Make an apps for Android for manging the virtual machines (like VirtualBox, VMWare etc.)
I think the Android kernels (most of them) supports virtualization already!
The hardest part is to make it compatible with the frontend Android! Which brings the apps and interfaces!
I know there's wine exist for Android! But that's just a complete different thing what I am talking about!
And I wasnt able to run wine on my tissot (Xiaomi Mi A1)!
Thanks everyone who is reading!
Give your valuable opinion and ideas!
Hope someone like @CosmicDan can make it!
ARMv8 (every phone) doesn't have hardware virtualisation extensions, so it would be as slow as emulation.
For that, we already have QEMU and KVM. But it's too slow to be of any practical use.
If you want proper virtualisation, you need ARMv8.1, which no phone has.
CosmicDan said:
ARMv8 (every phone) doesn't have hardware virtualisation extensions, so it would be as slow as emulation.
For that, we already have QEMU and KVM. But it's too slow to be of any practical use.
If you want proper virtualisation, you need ARMv8.1, which no phone has.
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Hmm! I just realised the hardest part: it's ARM and not x86_64!
ProttoyX said:
Hmm! I just realised the hardest part: it's ARM and not x86_64!
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That's emulation, not virtualisation.
You can use QEMU, Bochs or DOSBox to emulate x86 (x86_64 is probably impossible, idk but it's pointless to try). But it's dog slow and always will be.
CosmicDan said:
That's emulation, not virtualisation.
You can use QEMU, Bochs or DOSBox to emulate x86 (x86_64 is probably impossible, idk but it's pointless to try). But it's dog slow and always will be.
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Hmm! Got it! This thing came into my mind when I was reading about servers based on ARM! Wondered if they provides virtualization/container service or not! And ARM provides more cores than x86_64! I guess it's it's related to RISC/CISC thing! Not sure though!
ARM servers uses ARMv8.1?
AND PLEASE DON'T MIND ABOUT ENDING EVERY SENTENCE WITH (!)! PLEASE!
No one can always be rude! ?
I am surely not!
Again thanks for what you’ve done for the tissot and other staffs! You are genius! ?
ProttoyX said:
Hmm! Got it! This thing came into my mind when I was reading about servers based on ARM! Wondered if they provides virtualization/container service or not! And ARM provides more cores than x86_64! I guess it's it's related to RISC/CISC thing! Not sure though!
ARM servers uses ARMv8.1?
AND PLEASE DON'T MIND ABOUT ENDING EVERY SENTENCE WITH (!)! PLEASE!
No one can always be rude! ?
I am surely not!
Again thanks for what you’ve done for the tissot and other staffs! You are genius! ?
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Yes those ARM servers would be 8.1. It's not so much a RISC vs CISC thing but more an SoC vs CPU thing. Our devices are SoC's - sure they have many GHz and cores but they're still a lot slower that a proper CPU which has countless of extensions designed for accelerating tasks, and have more IPC capability and other such things (in short GHz/core count is comparable across different platforms or architectures, it's more relative than that). Our SoC's simply don't have those extensions that would make this feasible.
CosmicDan said:
ARMv8 (every phone) doesn't have hardware virtualisation extensions, so it would be as slow as emulation.
For that, we already have QEMU and KVM. But it's too slow to be of any practical use.
If you want proper virtualisation, you need ARMv8.1, which no phone has.
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Every ARMv8,and even ARMv7 has.On v8 it's called EL2 while on v7 it's HYP mode.However the biggest headache is that most SoC vendors do not allow users to enter it even with bootloader unlock.
On Qualcomm there are no way except a low level powerful exploit. On Exynos it is possible,needs a specific SMC to trustzone,and can be done only with an unlocked bootloader with custom kernel.
fxsheep said:
Every ARMv8,and even ARMv7 has.On v8 it's called EL2 while on v7 it's HYP mode.However the biggest headache is that most SoC vendors do not allow users to enter it even with bootloader unlock.
On Qualcomm there are no way except a low level powerful exploit. On Exynos it is possible,needs a specific SMC to trustzone,and can be done only with an unlocked bootloader with custom kernel.
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do you have any references links on this? maybe a cve for the qualcomm exploit?
I would strongly suspect the answer is yes, but can anyone check that the OS on the One Vision is the 64-bit version of Android? I ask because Motorola has put a 32-bit OS on some phones with x64 CPUs before such as the Moto G6.
You should be able to check buy using an app like AIDA64 under 'CPU>Instruction Set' it should say 64-bit and not say anything like "Running in 32-bit mode" or using the Antutu Benchmark in 'Info' it should say next to the Android version '32 or 64-bit' as well as it should be able to run 64-bit only apps like the Dolphin Emulator.
Many thanks in advance
jay2the1 said:
I would strongly suspect the answer is yes, but can anyone check that the OS on the One Vision is the 64-bit version of Android? I ask because Motorola has put a 32-bit OS on some phones with x64 CPUs before such as the Moto G6.
You should be able to check buy using an app like AIDA64 under 'CPU>Instruction Set' it should say 64-bit and not say anything like "Running in 32-bit mode" or using the Antutu Benchmark in 'Info' it should say next to the Android version '32 or 64-bit' as well as it should be able to run 64-bit only apps like the Dolphin Emulator.
Many thanks in advance
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Looks like it does. Check out the screenshot from my One Vision.
badadam said:
Looks like it does. Check out the screenshot from my One Vision.
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Thank you, with Google pushing to 64-bit apps and eventually going to phase out 32-bit apps I wanted to double make sure as I keep my phones for a long time (currently still using a Moto G2).
Type: Tablet
Brand: Unbranded
Screen Size: 10.1 in
Operating system: Android 9.0
RAM: 8 GB
Storage Capacity: 512 GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
External memory: Support SDHC
Front camera: 8 MP
Rear camera: 13.0MP
Processor: Deca Core
Screen type: IPS
Resolution: 2560 * 1600
Internet Connectivity: Wi-Fi
Running time: Up to 5 hours
Power adapter: 5V / 2A
Network: WIFI 802.11a / b / g / n
Model number: TAB910
Custom Build version: vEN52S3
Build number: TAB910-vEN52S3_20200416
not sure what other information I need to provide,
Due to site limitations, I am unable to provide a direct external link, but the product number was: 283812323007 from the eBayAU site
Looking to flash to Android 10 if I am able
kstingel said:
Type: Tablet
Brand: Unbranded
Screen Size: 10.1 in
Operating system: Android 9.0
RAM: 8 GB
Storage Capacity: 512 GB
Bluetooth: 4.1
External memory: Support SDHC
Front camera: 8 MP
Rear camera: 13.0MP
Processor: Deca Core
Screen type: IPS
Resolution: 2560 * 1600
Internet Connectivity: Wi-Fi
Running time: Up to 5 hours
Power adapter: 5V / 2A
Network: WIFI 802.11a / b / g / n
Model number: TAB910
Custom Build version: vEN52S3
Build number: TAB910-vEN52S3_20200416
not sure what other information I need to provide, I can include to originating product link if it is needed
Looking to flash to Android 10 if I am able
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Hi,
It's really unlikely to find a ROM for not popular device, so this unbranded tablet have very little chance to have a custom ROM. Developers usually buy phone they enjoy because of the experience the phone offers, those are usually flagship or at least phones from known brand like Motorola , Google , OnePlus,...
So even if you find the name, I doubt you'll find anything...
Edit #1:
Providing the link from where you bought it would be very helpful to identify the device, please provide it
Hope you still have a good day lol
Raiz said:
Hi,
It's really unlikely to find a ROM for not popular device, so this unbranded tablet have very little chance to have a custom ROM. Developers usually buy phone they enjoy because of the experience the phone offers, those are usually flagship or at least phones from known brand like Motorola , Google , OnePlus,...
So even if you find the name, I doubt you'll find anything...
Edit #1:
Providing the link from where you bought it would be very helpful to identify the device, please provide it
Hope you still have a good day lol
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Hi, I have the same Tablet with the same so called specs but in fact it is not. I can't install many apps because of the low version of android 4.4 api level 19. I have asked for help if it is possible to upgrade or Root so it can accept the new apps.
Can you help in here?
Thanks
Mondrimo said:
Hi, I have the same Tablet with the same so called specs but in fact it is not. I can't install many apps because of the low version of android 4.4 api level 19. I have asked for help if it is possible to upgrade or Root so it can accept the new apps.
Can you help in here?
Thanks
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No, what you have is a device that is "hacked" together with whatever they could use. This means you will not find anything to make the device function any better. Most importantly, the device has old hardware that wouldn't be able to use newer software even if you did find a way to install something newer.
For future reference, don't waste your money on cheap tablets, you get what you pay for......complete junk. Buy branded tablets only and even then, don't buy the cheap chinese brands.
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Droidriven said:
No, what you have is a device that is "hacked" together with whatever they could use. This means you will not find anything to make the device function any better. Most importantly, the device has old hardware that wouldn't be able to use newer software even if you did find a way to install something newer.
For future reference, don't waste your money on cheap tablets, you get what you pay for......complete junk. Buy branded tablets only and even then, don't buy the cheap chinese brands.
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Ok, sorry for not being that aware about scams. I bought it from here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-1-8G-51...hash=item48e58f80b0:m:mApkEvL0mPOieHk9wvI4EVA
And i paid extra 37$ for transportation to my country, so if this you consider it cheap around 117$ as a total payment as i thought it was a good deal.
Now if i am asking for help in XDA because there are many engineers and experienced people who may have the solution for this.
I hope they can read me..
Mondrimo said:
Ok, sorry for not being that aware about scams. I bought it from here:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-1-8G-51...hash=item48e58f80b0:m:mApkEvL0mPOieHk9wvI4EVA
And i paid extra 37$ for transportation to my country, so if this you consider it cheap around 117$ as a total payment as i thought it was a good deal.
Now if i am asking for help in XDA because there are many engineers and experienced people who may have the solution for this.
I hope they can read me..
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The point I was making is, no one can do anything for or with your device. There are many reasons why I say this, but, I'm not going to list those reasons. Just take my word for it, I've been a member of this website for years and I've seen many unbranded cloned devices that didn't have what they were listed as when they were bought. These devices do not have stock source code available to the public, this means that custom ROMs can not be built for the device because stock source code is required to build them. They also do not have stock firmware available to the public, which means you can't port a ROM or firmware from a similar device because your stock firmware is required to port a ROM or firmware.
On top of that, even if the stock source and stock firmware were available, you wouldn't find anyone to build anything for you unless you donated one of these tablets to them in order to use it to build and test what they build. Also, no developer would have any interest in trying to build anything for this device.
Even if you did find a way of updating the device to something newer, it would be very slow, it would have poor performance, it would be glitchy, buggy and possibly even freeze or randomly reboot.
Like I said, a complete waste of time. Get a better tablet if you want to use anything from XDA.
Just accept it, there is nothing you can do with this tablet to make it better.
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Droidriven said:
The point I was making is, no one can do anything for or with your device. There are many reasons why I say this, but, I'm not going to list those reasons. Just take my word for it, I've been a member of this website for years and I've seen many unbranded cloned devices that didn't have what they were listed as when they were bought. These devices do not have stock source code available to the public, this means that custom ROMs can not be built for the device because stock source code is required to build them. They also do not have stock firmware available to the public, which means you can't port a ROM or firmware from a similar device because your stock firmware is required to port a ROM or firmware.
On top of that, even if the stock source and stock firmware were available, you wouldn't find anyone to build anything for you unless you donated one of these tablets to them in order to use it to build and test what they build. Also, no developer would have any interest in trying to build anything for this device.
Even if you did find a way of updating the device to something newer, it would be very slow, it would have poor performance, it would be glitchy, buggy and possibly even freeze or randomly reboot.
Like I said, a complete waste of time. Get a better tablet if you want to use anything from XDA.
Just accept it, there is nothing you can do with this tablet to make it better.
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Fine i got the message, but browse on ebay and you will see many suppliers are selling such fake Tablets. I have been buying many items from ebay and never have i been scammed as i am now. I thought ebay is a reputable company and does not allow fake sellers. I have reported to ebay this scam hopefully they will react and forbid such suppliers to croock the buyers like me and others. In my opinion and since XDA is known for its qualifications in softwares and hardwares, they should get ready to find solutions for these unbranded tablets since they are increasing in sales and many have fallen into them. It's just my opinion.
Mondrimo said:
Fine i got the message, but browse on ebay and you will see many suppliers are selling such fake Tablets. I have been buying many items from ebay and never have i been scammed as i am now. I thought ebay is a reputable company and does not allow fake sellers. I have reported to ebay this scam hopefully they will react and forbid such suppliers to croock the buyers like me and others. In my opinion and since XDA is known for its qualifications in softwares and hardwares, they should get ready to find solutions for these unbranded tablets since they are increasing in sales and many have fallen into them. It's just my opinion.
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Lol, XDA should get ready? You think it is XDA's "responsibility" to offer software for devices like this? Your opinion is incorrect and way off the mark.
You don't understand what XDA is, that isn't how it works here. XDA itself is not who comes up with the software here, this is just the place where it gets posted. The individual members and developers here are the ones that create the software that you find here, then they post it here for others to share and they only build for the devices they personally own. Developers have no interest in owning or building for devices like yours, people with that kind of knowledge and skill do not buy those kinds of devices. This is not an end-user software support forum, this is a DEVELOPMENT forum. Everyone here are just volunteers, it is not a job, the developers here are just members like you and I, the difference is, they are members that have knowledge of how to modify android software and they share what they create here. There is not a team of people here sitting around creating software for every device on the market. This website started out as a "developer only" website where developers could share their works and resources with each other or discuss aspects of development, at some point, they decided to allow the public to have access to the forum. They didn't "have" to do this, they "chose" to do this. This place is about sharing development, not creating solutions for everybody that needs a solution. If you see a cheap off brand device here that has ROMs, it is because a user that owned one could not find anything here and decided to take it upon themselves to learn how to build a ROM for their device, then they shared it here, it is not done by a "developer", it is done by a "member" that chose to learn how to develop for their own device. You would sooner find a solution by following their example than you would by "expecting" XDA to do it for you.
You actually thought you were going to get a tablet with specs like that for less than $100? You can't get a decent tablet with specs like that for $400, much less $100.
Don't buy anything that ships from China on eBay, everything from there is a "knock-off", I mean everything, not just electronics, anyone familiar with eBay knows that and don't buy from AliExpress or Wish either. Don't buy anything that has a Mediatek CPU, the specs listed for your tablet say its CPU is MT6582/MT6797, that is MTxxxx CPU=Mediatek. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. You know the old saying "buyer beware". Take it as a lesson learned.
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Droidriven said:
Lol, XDA should get ready? You think it is XDA's "responsibility" to offer software for devices like this? Your opinion is incorrect and way off the mark.
You don't understand what XDA is, that isn't how it works here. XDA itself is not who comes up with the software here, this is just the place where it gets posted. The individual members and developers here are the ones that create the software that you find here, then they post it here for others to share and they only build for the devices they personally own. Developers have no interest in owning or building for devices like yours, people with that kind of knowledge and skill do not buy those kinds of devices. This is not an end-user software support forum, this is a DEVELOPMENT forum. Everyone here are just volunteers, it is not a job, the developers here are just members like you and I, the difference is, they are members that have knowledge of how to modify android software and they share what they create here. There is not a team of people here sitting around creating software for every device on the market. This website started out as a "developer only" website where developers could share their works and resources with each other or discuss aspects of development, at some point, they decided to allow the public to have access to the forum. They didn't "have" to do this, they "chose" to do this. This place is about sharing development, not creating solutions for everybody that needs a solution. If you see a cheap off brand device here that has ROMs, it is because a user that owned one could not find anything here and decided to take it upon themselves to learn how to build a ROM for their device, then they shared it here, it is not done by a "developer", it is done by a "member" that chose to learn how to develop for their own device. You would sooner find a solution by following their example than you would by "expecting" XDA to do it for you.
You actually thought you were going to get a tablet with specs like that for less than $100? You can't get a decent tablet with specs like that for $400, much less $100.
Don't buy anything that ships from China on eBay, everything from there is a "knock-off", I mean everything, not just electronics, anyone familiar with eBay knows that and don't buy from AliExpress or Wish either. Don't buy anything that has a Mediatek CPU, the specs listed for your tablet say its CPU is MT6582/MT6797, that is Mediatek. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. You know the old saying "buyer beware". Take it as a lesson learned.
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Apparently you are being ironic and sarcastic in terms of trying to be wise and criticizing me by purchasing this tablet and not knowing who i am and to whom you are talking to. It is not because i am asking for help i need to read this patronizing and insignificant comments of yours. Don't be in your own box, think out of it because this might happen to your friend or relatives.
Now i was writing to members who have the same issues and not to you. So give your philosophical comments to someone else.
Mondrimo said:
Apparently you are being ironic and sarcastic in terms of trying to be wise and criticizing me by purchasing this tablet and not knowing who i am and to whom you are talking to. It is not because i am asking for help i need to read this patronizing and insignificant comments of yours. Don't be in your own box, think out of it because this might happen to your friend or relatives.
Now i was writing to members who have the same issues and not to you. So give your philosophical comments to someone else.
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No, I was telling you how things actually work around here, because what I posted is how this site functions and what its purpose is. None of it was to be rude, it was to be informative in a matter-of-fact manner.
The difference is, I was posting based on what XDA actually is and you are posting based on what you hoped it was.
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I need a custom rom for unbranded Chinese tablet TAB910 mt679
Raiz said:
Hi,
It's really unlikely to find a ROM for not popular device, so this unbranded tablet have very little chance to have a custom ROM. Developers usually buy phone they enjoy because of the experience the phone offers, those are usually flagship or at least phones from known brand like Motorola , Google , OnePlus,...
So even if you find the name, I doubt you'll find anything...
Edit #1:
Providing the link from where you bought it would be very helpful to identify the device, please provide it
Hope you still have a good day lol
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I also have the same tablet. I bought it on Aliexpress.
All properties mentioned in seller's description are fake. as it is android 4.4 not android 9 and ram is 1GB not 8 and rom is 16 or 32 and not 128.
This is the data I got by AIDA64 app.
<<< System >>>
Manufacturer: Jlinksz
Model: TAB910
Hardware: mt6797
Serial: 0123456789ABCDEF
Installed RAM: 8 GB
Total Memory: 8112 MB
Internal Storage Total Space: 127.13 GB
Bluetooth Version: 4+
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SoC Model: MediaTek Helio X20 (MT6797)
Core Architecture: 4x ARM Cortex-A53 @ 2300 MHz
4x ARM Cortex-A53 @ 2300 MHz
2x ARM Cortex-A72 @ 2300 MHz
Manufacturing Process: 20 nm
Instruction Set: 64-bit ARMv8-A (32-bit Mode)
CPU Revision: r0p3
CPU Cores: 10 Cores
CPU Clock Range: 598 - 2300 MHz
Core 1 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 2 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 3 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 4 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 5 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 6 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 7 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 8 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 9 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 10 Clock: (sleeping)
CPU Utilization: 37 %
Scaling Governor: hotplug
CPU ABI: armeabi-v7a
CPU ABI2: armeabi
AES: Supported
NEON: Supported
PMULL: Not Supported
SHA1: Supported
SHA2: Supported
<<< Android >>>
Android Version: 4.4 (KitKat)
API Level: 19
Rooted Device: Yes
Android ID: ecd60217258ebac4
Baseband: MOLY.WR8.W1315.MD.WG.MP.V54, 2020/04/01 11:16
Build ID: TAB910_vEN52S3_20200416
Codename: REL
Fingerprint: G-tab/P789/P789:6.0/MRA58K/20180320.145903:user/release-keys
ID: KOT49H
Incremental: vEN52S3
Java Runtime Version: Android Runtime 0.9
Java VM Version: Dalvik 1.6.0
Java VM Heap Size: 128 MB
Kernel Architecture: armv7l
Kernel Version: 3.4.67 ([email protected]) (gcc version 4.7 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 16 10:47:37 CST 2020
Tags: release-keys
Type: user
Google Play Services Version: 20.26.14 (000300-320008519)
Huawei Mobile Services Version: < Not Present >
OpenSSL Version: OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013
ZLib Version: 1.2.8
ICU CLDR Version: 23.0
ICU Library Version: 51.1.0.1
ICU Unicode Version: 6.2
Aboziad412011 said:
I also have the same tablet. I bought it on Aliexpress.
All properties mentioned in seller's description are fake. as it is android 4.4 not android 9 and ram is 1GB not 8 and rom is 16 or 32 and not 128.
This is the data I got by AIDA64 app.
<<< System >>>
Manufacturer: Jlinksz
Model: TAB910
Hardware: mt6797
Serial: 0123456789ABCDEF
Installed RAM: 8 GB
Total Memory: 8112 MB
Internal Storage Total Space: 127.13 GB
Bluetooth Version: 4+
<<< CPU >>>
SoC Model: MediaTek Helio X20 (MT6797)
Core Architecture: 4x ARM Cortex-A53 @ 2300 MHz
4x ARM Cortex-A53 @ 2300 MHz
2x ARM Cortex-A72 @ 2300 MHz
Manufacturing Process: 20 nm
Instruction Set: 64-bit ARMv8-A (32-bit Mode)
CPU Revision: r0p3
CPU Cores: 10 Cores
CPU Clock Range: 598 - 2300 MHz
Core 1 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 2 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 3 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 4 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 5 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 6 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 7 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 8 Clock: (sleeping)
Core 9 Clock: 2300 MHz
Core 10 Clock: (sleeping)
CPU Utilization: 37 %
Scaling Governor: hotplug
CPU ABI: armeabi-v7a
CPU ABI2: armeabi
AES: Supported
NEON: Supported
PMULL: Not Supported
SHA1: Supported
SHA2: Supported
<<< Android >>>
Android Version: 4.4 (KitKat)
API Level: 19
Rooted Device: Yes
Android ID: ecd60217258ebac4
Baseband: MOLY.WR8.W1315.MD.WG.MP.V54, 2020/04/01 11:16
Build ID: TAB910_vEN52S3_20200416
Codename: REL
Fingerprint: G-tab/P789/P789:6.0/MRA58K/20180320.145903:user/release-keys
ID: KOT49H
Incremental: vEN52S3
Java Runtime Version: Android Runtime 0.9
Java VM Version: Dalvik 1.6.0
Java VM Heap Size: 128 MB
Kernel Architecture: armv7l
Kernel Version: 3.4.67 ([email protected]) (gcc version 4.7 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 16 10:47:37 CST 2020
Tags: release-keys
Type: user
Google Play Services Version: 20.26.14 (000300-320008519)
Huawei Mobile Services Version: < Not Present >
OpenSSL Version: OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013
ZLib Version: 1.2.8
ICU CLDR Version: 23.0
ICU Library Version: 51.1.0.1
ICU Unicode Version: 6.2
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That isn't very helpful because those specs are faked.
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Droidriven said:
That isn't very helpful because those specs are faked.
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First thank you for your replay and can you tell me what will be helpful to get a rom for this tablet?
I have finished reading a thread on XDA with 46 pages continue for one year about another model of same tablet but runs on mt6582. In your opinion is this rom posted in last page of that thread can be matched with my tablet. I did not try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...6582-make-custom-rom-add-root-t3877701/page46
Aboziad412011 said:
First thank you for your replay and can you tell me what will be helpful to get a rom for this tablet?
I have finished reading a thread on XDA with 46 pages continue for one year about another model of same tablet but runs on mt6582. In your opinion is this rom posted in last page of that thread can be matched with my tablet. I did not try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...6582-make-custom-rom-add-root-t3877701/page46
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No, you need to verify exactly which CPU series you have, I wouldn't trust what the software is saying it is. I would open the device to physically look at the CPU to see what series it is. Once you establish which processor you have, then you can try finding a firmware for another device that has the same CPU. But, there is more to it than just having the same CPU, the devices need to have the same screen resolution, the same size internal storage, the same RAM, same camera, etc... If any of the hardware components are different, the firmware probably won't work. To be honest, I really don't think you will find anything to work and if you do find something that somewhat works, you will probably have to make modifications to the firmware to get everything to work like it is supposed to.
To all of you asking/looking for a firmware from another device to use on this one, to put it in perspective, realistically, you all have about a 10% chance of finding something that works. That is a 90%(or more) chance of failing.
My point is, it isn't worth the time or the effort because even if you do find something to flash, it probably won't be exactly correct. There will be features and functions that don't work correctly, the device will probably be glitchy/sluggish and many other probable issues.
This device just is not worth it, in the end, you will have put in a lot of time, effort, headaches and hair-pulling into trying to improve the device only to not be satisfied with the results.
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The bootloader of the iPad will not allow the installation. Also, Windows requires X86 and your iPad have arm chipset. Arm chipset will barely run windows, though there is (only) a few exceptions.
ChangeMySoftware is fake, by the way.
jjgvv said:
ChangeMySoftware is fake, by the way.
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thank you
Is it possible to run arm64-v8a
games on my Redmi 9c M2006C3MG (armeabi-v7a)?
It may sound an absurd question to you experts but I googled a lot about it and couldn't be convinced that isn't possible.
Thanks a lot in advance
64-bit SoCs ( ARMV8 archictecture ) can run 32-bit apps, but 32-bit SoCs ( ARMV7 aechitecture ) cannot run 64-bit apps. If the architecture is wrong installation will just fail and app won't run.
xXx yYy said:
64-bit SoCs ( ARMV8 archictecture ) can run 32-bit apps, but 32-bit SoCs ( ARMV7 aechitecture ) cannot run 64-bit apps. If the architecture is wrong installation will just fail and app won't run.
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Thanks a lot for your clarification
Grecco 22 said:
Is it possible to run arm64-v8a
games on my Redmi 9c M2006C3MG (armeabi-v7a)?
It may sound an absurd question to you experts but I googled a lot about it and couldn't be convinced that isn't possible.
Thanks a lot in advance
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what? Mediatek G35 is a arm64 chip so you should able to run 64bit game
Grecco 22 said:
Is it possible to run arm64-v8a
games on my Redmi 9c M2006C3MG (armeabi-v7a)?
It may sound an absurd question to you experts but I googled a lot about it and couldn't be convinced that isn't possible.
Thanks a lot in advance
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Check if your os run in 32bit or 64bit mode
Guan Yu said:
Check if your os run in 32bit or 64bit mode
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So, that's the controversy Guan Yu. I've posted this question because after researching a lot about the subject I came to a conclusion that although this device comes with an armeabi-v7a CPU, its processor is capable to run 64bit games, if it's not already a 64bit processor.
Answering your question, any device info tool that I've installed says the arquitecture of my phone is only armeabi-v7a therefore I'm able to install only 32bit games.
To me is very embarrassing this controversy because I would do anything including rooting my phone to be able to play 64bit games on it.
Also I would like to add to my phone's specs that it is 4GB RAM, with 128GB storage.
Normally this device model comes with 2 or 3GB RAM and 32/64GB storage only.
Thanks for your contribution on trying to solve this question Guan Yu.
Grecco 22 said:
So, that's the controversy Guan Yu. I've posted this question because after researching a lot about the subject I came to a conclusion that although this device comes with an armeabi-v7a CPU, its processor is capable to run 64bit games, if it's not already a 64bit processor.
Answering your question, any device info tool that I've installed says the arquitecture of my phone is only armeabi-v7a therefore I'm able to install only 32bit games.
To me is very embarrassing this controversy because I would do anything including rooting my phone to be able to play 64bit games on it.
Also I would like to add to my phone's specs that it is 4GB RAM, with 128GB storage.
Normally this device model comes with 2 or 3GB RAM and 32/64GB storage only.
Thanks for your contribution on trying to solve this question Guan Yu.
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can you send me a screenshot about your phone specs ? Im curious about it
Well the OP's phone probably have a arm64 chipset but 32 bit software, because in that case all apps that list phone specs will recognise it as 32 bit phone.
As I know, Redmi 9C uses MediaTek Helio G35 chipset. Inside the MediaTek Helio G35 is a 64-bit octa-core Arm Cortex-A53 CPU.
The mentioned phone has a 64-bit SoC, means it can process ARMv8-2.A instruction set.
But: Whether a phone's Android OS runs in 32-bit or 64-bit mode is determined by phone's Android kernel at boottime - the kernel is the 1st thing what gets loaded by device's bootloader.
Guan Yu said:
can you send me a screenshot about your phone specs ? Im curious about it
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A more in depth info:
---------Device---------
Device name: Redmi 9C
Model: M2006C3MG
Manufacturer: Xiaomi
Device: angelica
Board: angelica
Hardware: mt6765
Brand: Redmi
---------System---------
Version name: Android 10 Q
Kernel architecture: armv8l
Kernel version: 268 MB
---------CPU---------
Hardware: MT6765G
Cores: 8
CPU frequency: 400MHz - 2301MHz
Core 1: 1750 Mhz
Core 2: 1750 Mhz
Core 3: 1750 Mhz
Core 4: 1750 Mhz
Core 5: 1800 Mhz
Core 6: 1800 Mhz
Core 7: 1800 Mhz
Core 8: 1800 Mhz
SOC: Mediatek Helio G35
Processor: AArch64 Processor rev 4 (aarch64)
Supported ABIs: armeabi-v7a, armeabi
CPU hardware: MT6765G
CPU governor: Unknown
GPU renderer: PowerVR Rogue GE8320
GPU vendor: Imagination Technologies
GPU version: OpenGL ES-CM 1.1
When will you take notice of fact that only 32-bit ( ARMEABI-v7a ) apps/services are supported though SoC is 64-bit capable? If you want to have true 64-bit support then you have to replace device's Android kernel by a kernel what supports 64-bit processing - and also the Android OS by a 64-bit one.
As I've asked and said in the first place, to you guys who are experts my question may seem too obvious but I will risk to take my conclusions based on the answers posted here.
To run 64bit apk on my device I need another rom, is that right?
Of course I need to root it right?
Is there any recommended rom to my device in which I would be able to run the 64bit apks?
I'm really grateful for your answers! Thank you
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Grecco 22 said:
As I've asked and said in the first place, to you guys who are experts my question may seem too obvious but I will risk to take my conclusions based on the answers posted here.
To run 64bit apk on my device I need another rom, is that right?
Of course I need to root it right?
Is there any recommended rom to my device in which I would be able to run the 64bit apks?
I'm really grateful for your answers! Thank you
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it is quite unfair to users , 32bit in 2022 ?, come on . I have a redmi 5 running snapdragon 450 , although it is older and performs as well as Mediatek G35 , it runs in 64 bit mode and can install 64bit games . This is a rather confusing and unfair step by xiaomi, plus the device runs a mediatek chip, so there is no custom kernel for you. so you can say you bought the scam
Guan Yu said:
it is quite unfair to users , 32bit in 2022 ?, come on . I have a redmi 5 running snapdragon 450 , although it is older and performs as well as Mediatek G35 , it runs in 64 bit mode and can install 64bit games . This is a rather confusing and unfair step by xiaomi, plus the device runs a mediatek chip, so there is no custom kernel for you. so you can say you bought the scam
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OMG !! How incoherent smartphones companies perpetrate technology !
It's frustrating.
Grecco 22 said:
OMG !! How incoherent smartphones companies perpetrate technology !
It's frustrating.
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Also, Many apps on play Store are now dropping support for 32 bit. I think it's intentionally done by xioami so that their customers buy their more expensive devices.
Even my old Nokia 3 from 2017 which had a Mediatek MT6737 (weaker than snapdragon 410) ran on a 64 bit kernel and os.
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Also, Many apps on play Store are now dropping support for 32 bit. I think it's intentionally done by xioami so that their customers buy their more expensive devices.
Even my old Nokia 3 from 2017 which had a Mediatek MT6737 (weaker than snapdragon 410) ran on a 64 bit kernel and os.
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Regrettable their approaching
Grecco 22 said:
OMG !! How incoherent smartphones companies perpetrate technology !
It's frustrating.
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It's also partly due to the way consumers buy phones blindly. most of them don't even know what functions their device has. And these are the consequences of it, companies take advantage of this to make more money. If consumers better understand what they are spending, the companies that make money from the blindness of customers will be eliminated and create a fairer game .
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It's also partly due to the way consumers buy phones blindly. most of them don't even know what functions their device has. And these are the consequences of it, companies take advantage of this to make more money. If consumers better understand what they are spending, the companies that make money from the blindness of customers will be eliminated and create a fairer game .
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To be honest I did wanted to know this phone specs before I was buying it.
But after confirming so many other (at least to me) important features of this device model such as RAM memory, storage and it's processor, I not even gave much attention to the architecture of it, thinking that it would be obviously running both a 64bit/32bit architecture, therefore being able to run such games.
Maybe I'm not the only one who owns a device like this hoping who knows some day someone coming up with a 'magical rom solution' to it.
(the kernel stuff)
At last, I have no complain about the rest of the device capabilities which are marvelous.
I was getting ready to root it if it was the condition to make it capable of running 64bits applications.
If there's no such rom, I will try to keep it unrooted as long as I can bear MIUI and an unrooted Android.
I'm learning...