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Hello!Have you ever heard about Tiny Core Linux...it is only 11MB big and it has a graphical interface.So is it possible to run it on Windows Mobile based phone.I read that is possible to run Ubuntu on many phones but is it possible to run Tiny Core Linux.Thank you in advance!
may be that's possible,but i am still wondering what the iny core linux is
zdzeee said:
may be that's possible,but i am still wondering what the iny core linux is
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You have any link for download? I would like to try.
Thank you.
Yes...here it is tinycorelinux dot com
intresting...
http://www.tinycorelinux.com/welcome.html
seems it's kernel is for x86 not for ARM
Well...i have ever seen that you can run Rhobuntu (Ubuntu) on many HTC phones (see youtube - type 'rhobuntu').
xukca said:
Well...i have ever seen that you can run Rhobuntu (Ubuntu) on many HTC phones (see youtube - type 'rhobuntu').
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Doesn't make any difference, the sources will need to be compiled for an arm cpu, then drivers will have to be added etc, you are better of with the current android ports that are going on.
..let me show you ARM version of linux, that i could imagine in PDA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i--xlwE8UlY&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfE2vSk3Hbc&feature=related
etc etc...
this is what can be done with ARM cpu line and some brain.
others can.
only thing i wanted you to realize how FAR we are from real portable os for work with our wm/android/whatever.
Someone managed to do it drove this Linux?
Is there any way that you can run linux shell on HTC Diamond or anyway to run aircrack-ng
xukca said:
Is there any way that you can run linux shell on HTC Diamond or anyway to run aircrack-ng
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Lol, no, and it would be totally pointless. Too slow for aircrack-ng
if its able to run Linux... will it be able to run android on top of this Linux?
BlueEditionE6 said:
if its able to run Linux... will it be able to run android on top of this Linux?
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Why run two cores(kernels) on one not-so-fast machine? Kinda pointless imo.
I am just wondering. I am a huge fan of android and am using Desire HD now. But I was wondering if a dual core tablet can be installed with Windows 7? I only need the W7 just to sync with my android phone. Maybe I can install RUU or any other ROMS in the future using my tablet.
Not quite sure what your asking here... Dual Core x86 processor tablets would probably run windows 7, Dual Core Arm Processor can not as windows is x86 processor specification and Android is Arm. All android devices are compatible to the best of my knowledge with windows 7 so if your worried about getting an android tablet and not having support for it then don't worry. Other than that i hope i answered your question.
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Windows 7 can only be installed on x86 systems. Older versions of Windows NT could be installed on other CPUs like Alpha and Power PC and Windows server has a version that can run on Itanium/IA-64 but they are dropping it.
Microsoft has claimed Windows 8 will run on ARM systems so when it comes out you may be able to use it but most programs won't run it.
The Old One said:
Windows 7 can only be installed on x86 systems. Older versions of Windows NT could be installed on other CPUs like Alpha and Power PC and Windows server has a version that can run on Itanium/IA-64 but they are dropping it.
Microsoft has claimed Windows 8 will run on ARM systems so when it comes out you may be able to use it but most programs won't run it.
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Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.
Yes, Atom x86 CPU and Android 1.6 (last version to support x86).
Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.
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Does the dual boot Viewpad 10 use (x)86 processors? Is Android 1.6 the last or latest Android OS that can run on the (x)86 platform?
I'm just curious as to how Viewsonic gets both OS's to run on viewpad 10 platform, so this looks like a good place to ask about that.
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Viewsonic's Viewpad 10 uses the intel atom cpu to my knowledge. I don't know the details behind it but have read that Android 1.6 is the last version of Android that can run on x86 architecture. Maybe a dev. will be able to explain that part.
It would have made lots of sense for Google to make 2.x and up compatible with x86/x64 but I suppose there may be politics involved (imho, it can't be much else, since Linux runs on everything and Android is based almost entirely on Linux)....or maybe it would be more work or too much code needed. Since 2.2 is meant primarily for phones first, maybe they didn't see a need to bloat it up.
I wouldn't mind if Android needed a 650MB-1GB install as long as it works well.
Here's a snippet, you will be able to find more if you google it....though I can't find a reason as to why myself.
Hi,
I don't know if VS did their own work or may have used stuff from the Android X86 project:
http://www.android-x86.org/
or something similar (I think that there are other efforts like this)...
As you can see, the project is currently on 1.6, but:
http://www.android-x86.org/#What_we_are_working_on_now
says their working on Froyo:
What we are working on now
Port Froyo to x86 (froyo-x86 branch)
OpenGL hardware accelerator to froyo-x86 (olv, cwhuang)
New x86 toolchain (cwhuang)
Ethernet update (Yi)
Automount for new vold (cwhuang)
New target sparta (Doug)
New target viewpad10 (Al Sutton)
New target viliv s5 (okwon)
Mplayer porting (okwon
BTW, if you have a Windows PC, you can actually run that Android (1.6) on it. I had done that earlier, before getting my Gtab.
Jim
As one of the members pointed out, and if you check out the hands ons that have been done recently, ViewPad10 does indeed use Androidx86 project. GREAT News is, they just released Froyo-x86 (http://www.android-x86.org/releases/release_2_2) and there is a specific ISO for the ViewPad10. I actually just ordered 5 from one of my vendors (1 to keep and 4 to sell) so I am definitely going to pop that Froyo-x86 in mine and see how it whirls! I'm very excited by the prospects of a dual boot Froyo7 tablet!
Did you load the 2.2 iso onto one, and if so how well did it work? I just want to use a copy of android so I can use the apps I already bought for my phone.
Some of the latest so called 'dual-boot' tablets are actually going to be using an android virtual machine which will run within windows.
If anyone's comfortable compiling their own kernel and drivers then they stand a chance of 'rolling their own' VM otherwise unless someone with the knowhow takes up the banner for a particular device, I would consider this option out of reach.
Which tablet devices have you seen running an Android VM? I ran the 2.2 live USB on my VPad10 but it was missing wifi. Everything else seems to run great. Its fast and functional! Except the wifi. :-(
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the v10 specific iso didn't support wifi?!?!?!?
VPad and Froyo
I've picked up a VPad10 and have tried upgrading Android to 2.2 and have found that the interface buttons seemed out of place . I had a hard time moving backwards through the various pages - I had to tap the upper right corner on the bar and tap a second time in order to move back to the previous screen.
I found the interface too different from the standard to make it useful. I've since reverted back to 1.6
I had difficulty loading the Froyo (.img.gz) version. I've tried opening the gz on my Linux machine (vcersus my Windows box) and still get the same problem. Can the Froyo beta be loaded as iso image like the others, it would make my life easier?
I placed an order for the 10" gtablet the other day. This thread saved me from some dissapointment by trying to save a couple bucks.
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Just bought mine through the woot deal...
Can it be done? I cant seem to find any information on it...
Short answer: No
Windows is an Intel based operating system
Windows Phones have intel based processors like the "Intel Atom"
Android is a linux based operating system that is designed to run on ARMx based processors like the Snapdragon and TegraII.
Any way to run a virtual machine and run it or a bootable usb of windows 7?
mr208 said:
Any way to run a virtual machine and run it or a bootable usb of windows 7?
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Not too sure about Virtual Machine but I did read somewhere on this forum that someone successfully ran "Ubuntu" on the GTAB so there may a VM involvement somewhere in there.
Search "Ubuntu" on the "Viewsonic G Tablet" forums..
Windows Phones have intel based processors like the "Intel Atom"
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False... Windows phone 7 is currently designed to run on ARM, just like all other major phone OS's.
Not too sure about Virtual Machine but I did read somewhere on this forum that someone successfully ran "Ubuntu" on the GTAB so there may a VM involvement somewhere in there.
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The reason for this is Ubuntu has a version of it that is compiled for ARM processors, it is not running in a VM.
Windows 7 will NEVER work on the gtablet hardware. Never. Ever.
Got it? . Just want to make that clear.
Tostino said:
False... Windows phone 7 is currently designed to run on ARM, just like all other major phone OS's.
The reason for this is Ubuntu has a version of it that is compiled for ARM processors, it is not running in a VM.
Windows 7 will NEVER work on the gtablet hardware. Never. Ever.
Got it? . Just want to make that clear.
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WHAT the HELL? I'm just trying to help the guy out.
How about being a contributor and not being a Jerk about it!
If I'm wrong I'll own up to it. XDA is about helping and not about being condescending to other members!
Sorry, wasn't trying to come off as a jerk, but after reading my post it did sound like it. I just have read enough of the threads on this subject to know the reasons it won't work.
Windows 7 is built for x86 processors.
That would be your intel atoms, pentiums of late, core i5's i7's whatever.
Windows Phone 7 runs on a version of Windows CE. Windows CE was built for ARM processors. These are the processors that you find in your modern smartphones be it iPhone, and all Android phones.
ARM processors are well suited to low power mobile processing hence they're use in about everything.
Linux has been built to run on both ARM and x86 processors, Windows 7 has not. Windows CE does but it's a different product from Windows 7.
Microsoft is rumored to be working on a Windows OS that will be made for ARM processors but one problem they know they will have is that all the current Windows programs won't run on this new OS.
The dual booting Viewsonic tablet that was out was using an Intel Atoom processor hence why it was able to run both android and Windows.
Anybody successfully ran native android on the Surface or Surface pro? I sall a video but no Wifi or Bluetooth were working he said. AnywayIf so has anyone heard of any plans for running it on the 2nd Surface?
Surface RT and surface 2, nothing has changed. Use search, there are threads for it already.
Surface pro. Android x86, but its poorly supported. Also Android-IA, poorly supported on the surface but working for one of the samsung tablets.
Right ok... I thought so its a shame that nobodys supporting it to well
Why the lolz would anyone want to run android on a surface pro?
No android apps need the raw CPU performance. Many games dont support x86. Can get a (poor) android tablet for the cost of the type cover for the surface.
So I can have 3 operating systems that i use most on one machine
Also bluestacks sucks I can't stand it.
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So I can have 3 operating systems that i use most on one machine
Also bluestacks sucks I can't stand it.
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Jar Of Beans is better than bluestacks. Android on x86 devices isn't much better when you factor in driver issues (wifi and bluetooth are often unsupported, even touch and sound go, androidIA only supports specific devices because they only have drivers for those devices) plus any app using the NDK (quite a few, even some of the built in apps) tend to only be compiled for ARMv7, not MIPS or x86, so alot of apps are broken (many of the google defaults thankfully are available in x86 variants, but you cant just copy them from your ARM phone or tablet as they will only have the ARMv7 binary not the x86 binary). Its just awkward.
Aw thats awesome! Interesting but its discontinued I wonder why I hope that doesn't cause and problems
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So I can have 3 operating systems that i use most on one machine
Also bluestacks sucks I can't stand it.
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But windows 8 alone can do things android only dreams about...
Right but andriod has most of my fun with hacking and games
hacktheplant said:
Right but andriod has most of my fun with hacking and games
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Windows 8 on x86 has probably more mods and hacks than all versions of android combined...
You can even make it look like windows 95 if you want...
I know but I haven't gotten in that experience yet lol
It would be awesome if you tell me a few of them!
hacktheplant said:
I know but I haven't gotten in that experience yet lol
It would be awesome if you tell me a few of them!
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This is true
I know the 8.1 jailbreak is coming soon and was looking into n64 emulators. http://slideme.org/application/n64oid that one is already compiled for ARM but is for android. Anyone know of any n64 emulator that will possible run on RT 8.1 (or that can be recompiled).
No, not quite yet. Unless N64oid is uploaded to the Windows Store, then you'll just have to wait for the jailbreak.
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No, not quite yet. Unless N64oid is uploaded to the Windows Store, then you'll just have to wait for the jailbreak.
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The question is has anyone converted it to work on Windows RT 8.0. It is an ARM build but for android.
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The question is has anyone converted it to work on Windows RT 8.0. It is an ARM build but for android.
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It is more likely that an x86 windows application can be ported to windows RT than an ARM android app can be ported to windows RT.
I think N64 was looked at before, I can't remember what the limitation was but it was most likely build tools or a graphics plugin.
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It is more likely that an x86 windows application can be ported to windows RT than an ARM android app can be ported to windows RT.
I think N64 was looked at before, I can't remember what the limitation was but it was most likely build tools or a graphics plugin.
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There are a lot of different N64 emulators for x86...
Someone could take a look at mupen64 and get that ported. That would be our best bet for a 64 emu. But I do believe graphics would be the main problem.
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There are a lot of different N64 emulators for x86...
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I am aware.
I was just pointing out that your examples are useless. When porting software to RT, it doesnt matter if it has an ARM version elsewhere, the most important thing is that it is a win32 application before you can even remotely consider anything else, n64oid is not win32 in the slightest.
The x86 emulators may have JIT issues, may not compile under MSVC which is the only compiler we have for windows RT or rely on libraries which do not function.
N64 has been requested and turned down before. Someone should perhaps take another look though yes and the surface RT certainly has the power.
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There are a lot of different N64 emulators for x86...
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SixSixSevenSeven said:
It is more likely that an x86 windows application can be ported to windows RT than an ARM android app can be ported to windows RT.
I think N64 was looked at before, I can't remember what the limitation was but it was most likely build tools or a graphics plugin.
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Somebody looked at N64 on Windows RT a while back, and I read on another forum that it there were graphics problems
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I am aware.
I was just pointing out that your examples are useless. When porting software to RT, it doesnt matter if it has an ARM version elsewhere, the most important thing is that it is a win32 application before you can even remotely consider anything else, n64oid is not win32 in the slightest.
The x86 emulators may have JIT issues, may not compile under MSVC which is the only compiler we have for windows RT or rely on libraries which do not function.
N64 has been requested and turned down before. Someone should perhaps take another look though yes and the surface RT certainly has the power.
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Offtopic:
Dude, you are one of the nicest guys here. Everytime you take your time to give a very detailed good explaing answer. I needed to tell you, because guys like you makes me love this forum and the "thank button" was not enough
Ontopic:
Could this help?
Ver 1.4 Source
Ver2.x Source <-
Thanks for the feedback.
Anyways, I managed to make the build clean enough so anyone with Visual Studio 2010+ OR its Windows SDK equivalent can build from scratch without any issues (other than a ton of compiler warnings, but it does run smoothly).
Again, these are all non-functional changes, but only changes to *.vcxproj files to make the soultion buildable (Under VS or using MSBuild in the command line)
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BIade said:
Offtopic:
Dude, you are one of the nicest guys here. Everytime you take your time to give a very detailed good explaing answer. I needed to tell you, because guys like you makes me love this forum and the "thank button" was not enough
Ontopic:
Could this help?
Ver 1.4 Source
Ver2.x Source <-
Source - Last post
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Offtopic part: thanks
Ontopic part:
That it compiles in visual studio at all is certainly a start.
came across this:
http://www.emutalk.net/threads/49810-Mupen64-in-C-on-XNA
is it in any way related?
goldenpipes said:
came across this:
http://www.emutalk.net/threads/49810-Mupen64-in-C-on-XNA
is it in any way related?
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Completely outdated (2009) on no files available.... I can't imagine that it can help. Sorry mate
We have a psx emulator n64 should be possible.
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goldenpipes said:
We have a psx emulator n64 should be possible.
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What psx emulator on RT...?
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It doesn't look like RT 8.1 will be JB so the emulator question doesn't even matter anymore