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[email protected] has officially launched

T-Mobile's [email protected] service has launched nationwide. The service enables users to make calls on Wi-Fi networks and to transition calls to and from T-Mobile's GSM network. There is NO additional monthly cost to enjoy improved coverage. All you need is a [email protected] (UMA) handset, a broadband internet connection and a Wi-Fi router. All [email protected] phones are support B and G. The T-Mobile branded Linksys/D-link routers offer 4 benefits over using your personal router.
Improved handset battery life when making Wi-Fi calls.
Voice Priority for voice data over other network traffic.
Tech Support can access your router for troubleshooting.
Get Security Key button allows for simple sharing of the password.
You can also add on an extra feature for $19.99 (single line) or $29.99 (shared plan) for UNLIMITED domestic calling for all calls initiated on Wi-Fi - even T-Mobile US HotSpot locations. These features are currently offered on a temporary promotion for $9.99 and $19.99 respectively.
This product should prove to be HUGE for anyone with in-home coverage issues or for people who make a lot of calls from home.

would the IP feature in the new 06 roms be able to be used with this new feature

WHY....I'll tell ya...!
It's a plot to get you to pay more for poor service.
PROs
1. "crickets in the background"
CONs
1. Most people work so they're not home between 8 & 6which leaves you 3 hours to use it.
2. To use it, you have to buy a piece of $#!+ phone.
3. How much will you talk in 3 hours...use your home phone.
Solution....switch carriers...!
I won't disclose my experience with T-Mobile but I was with them for over 5 years.
I switched to AT&T; the same device works totally different...better that is!

dwny said:
WHY....I'll tell ya...!
It's a plot to get you to pay more for poor service.
PROs
1. "crickets in the background"
CONs
1. Most people work so they're not home between 8 & 6which leaves you 3 hours to use it.
2. To use it, you have to buy a piece of $#!+ phone.
3. How much will you talk in 3 hours...use your home phone.
Solution....switch carriers...!
I won't disclose my experience with T-Mobile but I was with them for over 5 years.
I switched to AT&T; the same device works totally different...better that is!
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to each his own. I have the complete opposite experience. I love t-mobile. they are by far the cheapest. I have never dropped a call with them. the calls are loud and clear. I have signal everywhere I want to go. customer service has been great and my bill is always correct.
with at&t, the max a phone call would make it would be 5 minutes before it dropped. within that 5 minutes it would cut in and out bad. i had full signal. I tried about 40 different phone models so it was definitely the service of at&t. not once did they get my bill right in the time I had them. customer service and tech support was awful.
this @home service is a great service. for those that don't get good signal or no signal at a certain location, they can get this. you can use your existing wi-fi router. it costs nothing to use it if you just want it to deduct your minutes. or you pay a whopping $10 per line ($20 per family plan) to have UNLIMITED calls while using it. it will seamlessly move back and forth between wi-fi and GSM without dropping the call or anything. Sure there are only two phones out now with it but it just came out. give it some time and a lot of phones will be compatible with it. your argument about use your home phone is dumb because a lot of people don't have a home phone and/or they would prefer to just use one number for people to contact them with.

I also have no plans of leaving T-mo. ...................... best customer service ever and I have no problems with service, besides a few months back when I moved to a different local and I had no service at my new house ............... I called and complained so the nice rep. gave me 300 bonus min. and within a week I was getting full bars ever since at my new house, so why should I switch ............................. all they need now is some damn better phones
Now back to the question, would this new option in 06 work with T-mo. new service or is there too llittle info known about both features to give a definate answer

I liked T-Mobile and the pricing.
I had 4 phones, 2 in Florida and 2 in NY.
For the last 2 years in Florida....my service sucked!
I worked with T-Mo this whole time because of pricing.
T-Mo told me ... "They do not have to provide service" ... this came from retention. If T-Mo works for you, cool ... because at one time it worked for me. Now it doesn't work so I had to move.
As far as billing & CS...so far so good. I get 20% off everything except equipment and they paid my cancellation fees.
I still have my NY phones with T-Mo
As I stated earlier ... same phone, different network .... my cellular life is good again.
Until you're in a situation where your service continually doesn't work...you can't talk. I go to work and everyone could use their phones but me...even Metro PCS and it only works in a handfull of Florida zip codes.
The question still goes unanswered...why create a WiFi Home network if you have coverage....?
It's a shame that my cousin...a T-Mo manager hates to come to my home because his phone doesn't work.....
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Look...I've got bars

one con that i think this has "no smartphone compatible"

I would probably go with it. where i live is on the bottom of a hill (a bit lower in elevation than the surrounding areas), so my signal is weak (too much interference). i ended up getting a phone landline through my cable company ($30 on promotion) along with internet and cable tv service. if I can switch my t-mobile to go to to ip (which is the same thing that my cable company uses anyway, except packaged in a nice box), then it just makes sense to cut the $30 a month and use one phone to do either.
plus with the cable phone, i have it set to forward to my cell phone when i'm at work, so a majority of my calls go straight to my cell phone anyway.
anyway, nowadays, most people don't really use a home phone and a cell phone. all my information and phone usage is done with the cell. this service would just improve my connectivity from home.

dwny said:
I liked T-Mobile and the pricing.
I had 4 phones, 2 in Florida and 2 in NY.
For the last 2 years in Florida....my service sucked!
I worked with T-Mo this whole time because of pricing.
T-Mo told me ... "They do not have to provide service" ... this came from retention. If T-Mo works for you, cool ... because at one time it worked for me. Now it doesn't work so I had to move.
As far as billing & CS...so far so good. I get 20% off everything except equipment and they paid my cancellation fees.
I still have my NY phones with T-Mo
As I stated earlier ... same phone, different network .... my cellular life is good again.
Until you're in a situation where your service continually doesn't work...you can't talk. I go to work and everyone could use their phones but me...even Metro PCS and it only works in a handfull of Florida zip codes.
The question still goes unanswered...why create a WiFi Home network if you have coverage....?
It's a shame that my cousin...a T-Mo manager hates to come to my home because his phone doesn't work.....
Look...I've got bars
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oh i agree that if you didn't have coverage someplace then you would have to switch. that is a given. but your other arguments were invalid.
plus now, you can use this [email protected] service in areas that you might not have signal. you obviously didn't read what I said about the service if you still asked why people would get this if they have signal at their home. well, if you don't have great signal, than this will help that. plus you can pay $10 a month ($20 per family plan) to have UNLIMITED calls while connected to hotspots. that alone will entice some people to the service.
if at&t works for you, that's great. my experiences with at&t is that the service was completely unusable. sure they had signal everywhere but what good does it do when you can't use that service. obviously it works better where you are so more power to you.

Cellular strength and throughput

We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel 2 XL's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.

Once device starts shipping and users can test, I'm curious to know if the cellular connectivity issue experienced on pixel xl has been solved on pixel 2 xl or not.

Plus one to this. My only real gripe with the current pixel XL. Hopefully the modem or antenna is stronger in the 2.

Any updates from people that have their device? Specifically looking to see if there is a signal strength improvement from the original xl?

After using this for a day I have some areas that I go through that were very weak with signal and I have Verizon. I just came from my LG G5 that would barely hold up going through these weak areas the pixel XL 2 is much better at holding a signal. I've noticed that where I have one bar with my LG G5 I have two bars with the pixel 2 XL. And in areas where I was losing signal and dropping my call with my G5 it holds onto my call and does not drop my call at all through these weak areas.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Sounds promising. Hoping the Pixel 2 improves the Google Fi experience.

Looks to be about the same as my 6P and LG G6, getting around 35 down and 10 up at my office. Hardly a scientific answer but it's what I got

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Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Compared to my Nexus 6 which had pretty good RF performance my Pixel 2 XL is ~2-3 dBm lower on LTE, ~6 dBm lower on wifi.

Not bad

Typical for me in downtown Chicago

I'd say cell throughput on lte is pretty good!

Cell speed and Los Angeles is very good, using T-Mobile, but sometimes it will waste time on B12, which you can disable with a non-SE kernel. That will free up B12 off your 3x CA limit.
Averaging about 80-120Mbps around my neighborhood.
Edit: Tested over 140 yesterday.

Not good
This is my second one the Google tec talked me into it got it in the mail today. I gotta say the second one was worse Tha the first I'm in a poor signal area and I got limited text and phone but next to no internet. My Moto phones knock the socks off of it. Even my old Nexus 6. I'm on Verizon.

wooddale said:
This is my second one the Google tec talked me into it got it in the mail today. I gotta say the second one was worse Tha the first I'm in a poor signal area and I got limited text and phone but next to no internet. My Moto phones knock the socks off of it. Even my old Nexus 6. I'm on Verizon.
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i havent had any issues at all...i use all four carriers...

160mbps! T mo.
Getting 60mbps on my 6p was alot.... Then.

How is it at getting a good cellular signal? My OG Pixel is the worst and I don't want to be fooled again.

I received my Pixel 2 XL in the UK earlier this week and I am finding it is quite often losing it's HSDPA connection and falling back to Edge in areas where my trusty Nexus 5 was happily maintaining connection. They are both using the same SIM card on Virgin 3G (although I am waiting for them to switch me other to 4G in a couple of days) which runs off EE.
Anyone else experienced similar or know how to resolve.
Cheers
Baz

I get horrible signal -111 right under a Verizon tower.....yes I have Verizon lol

When you say right under do you mean right under or close, cause you can be to close.

5G is coming to the Midlands first. (UK)

It has just been announced that the 5G network will be coming to the West Midlands for first trials in the UK.
What is 5G ?
5G is about to be launched as the latest and fastest mobile phone network. It will be expected to be 1000x faster than 4G which is (depending on comparison of network quality type) roughly 50x quicker than 3G. (see link at bottom of post for indepth info)
Will 5G cook our brains and can I fry toast in front of the cellnet ?
There is a massive debate, conspiracy or not on this matter but the technical side of this, in laymans terms works something like this;
As frequencies get higher and bandwidth gets wider, more power is needed to send signals, which is where most of the scare story comes from. However, Also as frequencies get higher, aerials / antennae get smaller, thus it is much more possible to place lower powered antennae closer together. So to some degree, we don't need to take at least some of the risk said to be involved. Spooky eh ?
Look on social media for paranoia vs conspiracy on these matters.
What will 5G mean for the networks and customers ? RIP MP3 ?
The sooner 5G takes hold of the market, the more 4G and 3G will be freed up. As a result, data will inevitably get cheaper and cheaper and we will have a set of networks that can cope with unlimited connections for the masses. No doubt the "idiots" out there who want to download and host everything and blackmarket it will cause the network owners to look into how this is dealt with and let's hope they do a better job than last time.
However, 5G networks will be able to transfer full HD movies in less than 15-20 seconds. An mp3 should have downloaded completely, almost before it has been released and you have realised you want it.
There is a question about mp3s becoming irrelevant if battery life on devices can cope with lengthy screen usage making video the new mp3. Now you see those phones coming with 12,000maH and battery banks becoming a very serious commodity. Combine those batteries on our devices and 12 TB drives on home networks and you truly will be able to access your vast home catalogues anywhere in the world.
So what about 5G phones ?
Sadly, like 4G networks and 3G phones, 4G phones will not work on 5G networks.
Question, where is the phone industry on this ?
Just some thoughts and hopefully some knowledge from this tiny brain of mine. :good:
I do not work in the industry at all, but I do appreciate good quality tech, especially at budget prices.
5g.co.uk
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codQuore said:
It has just been announced that the 5G network will be coming to the West Midlands for first trials in the UK.
What is 5G ?
5G is about to be launched as the latest and fastest mobile phone network. It will be expected to be 1000x faster than 4G which is (depending on comparison of network quality type) roughly 50x quicker than 3G. (see link at bottom of post for indepth info)
Will 5G cook our brains and can I fry toast in front of the cellnet ?
There is a massive debate, conspiracy or not on this matter but the technical side of this, in laymans terms works something like this;
As frequencies get higher and bandwidth gets wider, more power is needed to send signals, which is where most of the scare story comes from. However, Also as frequencies get higher, aerials / antennae get smaller, thus it is much more possible to place lower powered antennae closer together. So to some degree, we don't need to take at least some of the risk said to be involved. Spooky eh ?
Look on social media for paranoia vs conspiracy on these matters.
What will 5G mean for the networks and customers ? RIP MP3 ?
The sooner 5G takes hold of the market, the more 4G and 3G will be freed up. As a result, data will inevitably get cheaper and cheaper and we will have a set of networks that can cope with unlimited connections for the masses. No doubt the "idiots" out there who want to download and host everything and blackmarket it will cause the network owners to look into how this is dealt with and let's hope they do a better job than last time.
However, 5G networks will be able to transfer full HD movies in less than 15-20 seconds. An mp3 should have downloaded completely, almost before it has been released and you have realised you want it.
There is a question about mp3s becoming irrelevant if battery life on devices can cope with lengthy screen usage making video the new mp3. Now you see those phones coming with 12,000maH and battery banks becoming a very serious commodity. Combine those batteries on our devices and 12 TB drives on home networks and you truly will be able to access your vast home catalogues anywhere in the world.
So what about 5G phones ?
Sadly, like 4G networks and 3G phones, 4G phones will not work on 5G networks.
Question, where is the phone industry on this ?
Just some thoughts and hopefully some knowledge from this tiny brain of mine. :good:
I do not work in the industry at all, but I do appreciate good quality tech, especially at budget prices.
5g.co.uk
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Cool! Rather, 5G technology has spread around the world.

5g will replace 4g in all other countries, including the UK shortly. 5G can provide wireless broadband, better broadcasting technology, higher automation and autonomy across everything from producing to automotive, and support for a more significant density of connected devices, support for new categories of connected devices and many more.

Great
Great news ! 5G generation!

5G Network
It is good news to have 5G in the midland..:good::good:

Question The radios are not bad but not great

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The above him is from the Pixel 7 pro and the below is from the S22U at the same place at the same time
Same. The image above is the pixel 7 pro and the image below is the S22U at the same place at the same time

I've found that my S22Ultra sux arse radio wise.

I disagree- what phone have you gotten more than 1.3 GBS with rock solid signal strength?

Supposedly, the pixel 7 pro has a better radio. I just ran this test on my pixel 6 pro, and got these results. Hopefully my p7p is better. But my radio in p6p is decent. I can't complain anyway.

New all time high for download speed

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Wowza!

So far I haven't had any complaints about the radio other than before I installed the first OTA and it was dropping every so many minutes.

mko000 said:
Wowza!
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Yeah I must have been directly under the T-Mobile tower

I got this yesterday. Just switched to Mint Mobile (T-Mobile) with this phone. Previously on the Pixel 6 Pro with Tracfone (Verizon network) getting a little over 100 Mbps was a good day.
Reception on this phone with Mint Mobile (T-Mobile) has been much better than my Pixel 6 Pro with Tracfone (Verizon). Unfortunately, since I switched to Mint Mobile right when I got this phone, I can't make a valid comparison to my Pixel 6 Pro.

I seem to have the opposite experience. I came from a galaxy s21 ultra and had 5g coverage on multiple different bands and wavelengths in my area. Routinely can get 200 to 400 megabits per second. Now I'm down to 70 to 80 everywhere, my phone is constantly switching from LTE to 5G, and I'm having a lot of signal dropping where i never did before

joshtb86 said:
I seem to have the opposite experience. I came from a galaxy s21 ultra and had 5g coverage on multiple different bands and wavelengths in my area. Routinely can get 200 to 400 megabits per second. Now I'm down to 70 to 80 everywhere, my phone is constantly switching from LTE to 5G, and I'm having a lot of signal dropping where i never did before
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And you took the day one OTA? Mine was being weird until I did that.

EtherealRemnant said:
And you took the day one OTA? Mine was being weird until I did that.
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Yup did the ota basically immediately so can't tell you what it was like before that

joshtb86 said:
Yup did the ota basically immediately so can't tell you what it was like before that
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Well that's unfortunate. Hopefully they release some modem fixes in November.

Lughnasadh said:
I got this yesterday. Just switched to Mint Mobile (T-Mobile) with this phone. Previously on the Pixel 6 Pro with Tracfone (Verizon network) getting a little over 100 Mbps was a good day.
Reception on this phone with Mint Mobile (T-Mobile) has been much better than my Pixel 6 Pro with Tracfone (Verizon). Unfortunately, since I switched to Mint Mobile right when I got this phone, I can't make a valid comparison to my Pixel 6 Pro.
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Nice. I changed to Fi from StraightTalk (which doesn't work on my 7P) and get 20 down and 1 up at work and 11 down and 2 up at work. I'm in the middle of Verizon territory in ND. Good thing I have wifi calling at both places.

I currently have the 6P and have bad reception. I would like to ditch this device and go to the 7P, but I am conflicted. I see several post about not so great reception and others have no issue at all. I get dropped calls and the (!) in the signal bar. Notifications come several minutes or longer to receive. I wonder if this is based on location. I am in an area where LTE and 5G are decent on any other device but the one I have. I would hate to make the move to the 7P and have the same problems.

My results are a mixed bag. On one hand, the reception on my P7P is better b/c I'm in fewer situations where I see (!) in my signal bar compared to my P6P. On the other hand, I'm consistently only getting LTE connection (I'm on Verizon) where I would get 5G speeds with my iPhone 13 Pro. That being said, when I'm on LTE, it seems to be fast enough but I don't know if this is good enough for me to keep this device.

phillymade said:
I currently have the 6P and have bad reception. I would like to ditch this device and go to the 7P, but I am conflicted. I see several post about not so great reception and others have no issue at all. I get dropped calls and the (!) in the signal bar. Notifications come several minutes or longer to receive. I wonder if this is based on location. I am in an area where LTE and 5G are decent on any other device but the one I have. I would hate to make the move to the 7P and have the same problems.
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Do as I am doing, get the phone. You have 15 days to send it back. Pretty sure mine is going back. It is better, but it is not acceptable.

TonikJDK said:
Do as I am doing, get the phone. You have 15 days to send it back. Pretty sure mine is going back. It is better, but it is not acceptable.
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If it's not acceptable, then I'm not going to bother. I love the pixel experience, but not the poor connection quality. I may just scoop up a Motorola for the time being

EtherealRemnant said:
Well that's unfortunate. Hopefully they release some modem fixes in November.
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Not trying to be negative, but those of us with the same issues on the 6 Pro said that when it came out. We are still waiting.
Think about it, be careful and keep an eye on your return window. I wish I had with my 6 Pro.

TonikJDK said:
Not trying to be negative, but those of us with the same issues on the 6 Pro said that when it came out. We are still waiting.
Think about it, be careful and keep an eye on your return window. I wish I had with my 6 Pro.
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It's a different modem this time around, the 5300g. So far I've had zero issues with it after I took the first OTA. Also, no chance I'll return it because there's no acceptable alternative for me.

Question T'Eyes CC3 2K - Slow 4G Internet / Antenna Placement

Hi guys,
Quick question: what is the best antenna placement for the T'Eyes CC3 2K for best signal reception ?
My installer placed the 4G & Wifi 5G antennas sticked on the left pillar (driver side, under the factory cover, next to each other - like 2 cm apart) and the GPS on the same side a little lower towards the dash.
4G reception was pretty slow compared to the test I did on my phone in the same location (same carrier, using speedtest app)
Then I had my installer move the GPS antenna on the opposite side (passenger pillar), leaving the 4G and 5G/Wifi in place, next to each other on the left pillar.
Didn't see a big improvement ...
I am using a SIM card installed in the external adapter located in my glove box.
Do you think the 4G mounted next to the 5G / Wifi is causing the slow speeds ?
Or is it just the carrier / GPS & LTE bands available on the T'Eyes CC3 2K for my location ?
In the same locations, my iPhone is fast on 4g
Thanks again !

alinush said:
4G reception was pretty slow compared to the test I did on my phone in the same location (same carrier, using speedtest app)
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You're going to get a better signal and better speed on most mobile phones.
The modems are just better designed and usually support more frequency bands.
The same goes for 4g/5g routers. The throughput is often much lower than a mobile phone.
I get faster speeds tethering from my mobile to the head unit than I get by putting the SIM directly in the head unit.

j0hn83 said:
I get faster speeds tethering from my mobile to the head unit than I get by putting the SIM directly in the head unit.
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Yes i was thinking maybe the smartphone has much better hardware for 4G/5G.
I will try to use the mobile hotspot for a few days and see how i like it.
Thanks for replying !

I was facing same problem and was wondering what i did wrong. In the beginning was thinking that the GPS antenna interfere (i put Cellular and GPS antenna in between 30 cm) but looks like i should get used with it

alinush said:
Hi guys,
Quick question: what is the best antenna placement for the T'Eyes CC3 2K for best signal reception ?
My installer placed the 4G & Wifi 5G antennas sticked on the left pillar (driver side, under the factory cover, next to each other - like 2 cm apart) and the GPS on the same side a little lower towards the dash.
4G reception was pretty slow compared to the test I did on my phone in the same location (same carrier, using speedtest app)
Then I had my installer move the GPS antenna on the opposite side (passenger pillar), leaving the 4G and 5G/Wifi in place, next to each other on the left pillar.
Didn't see a big improvement ...
I am using a SIM card installed in the external adapter located in my glove box.
Do you think the 4G mounted next to the 5G / Wifi is causing the slow speeds ?
Or is it just the carrier / GPS & LTE bands available on the T'Eyes CC3 2K for my location ?
In the same locations, my iPhone is fast on 4g
Thanks again !
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What did the seller suggest when contacted for support?

I didn’t contacted the seller. I went back to their recommended installer and ask them to move the GPS antenna on the other side.
Still same behavior afterwards.
I think it’s just the hardware and the limited GPS/LTE bands supported by it
If we think about it, our smartphones have all antennas crammed into a small case without any issues. It’s just better hardware.

alinush said:
Hi guys,
Quick question: what is the best antenna placement for the T'Eyes CC3 2K for best signal reception ?
My installer placed the 4G & Wifi 5G antennas sticked on the left pillar (driver side, under the factory cover, next to each other - like 2 cm apart) and the GPS on the same side a little lower towards the dash.
4G reception was pretty slow compared to the test I did on my phone in the same location (same carrier, using speedtest app)
Then I had my installer move the GPS antenna on the opposite side (passenger pillar), leaving the 4G and 5G/Wifi in place, next to each other on the left pillar.
Didn't see a big improvement ...
I am using a SIM card installed in the external adapter located in my glove box.
Do you think the 4G mounted next to the 5G / Wifi is causing the slow speeds ?
Or is it just the carrier / GPS & LTE bands available on the T'Eyes CC3 2K for my location ?
In the same locations, my iPhone is fast on 4g
Thanks again !
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This must be hardware issue, funny enough crappy YT57B very slow, fake parameters head unit had much better reception than my new Teyes CC3 6G, what a shame.
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