Hi all.
Thinking of grabbing one of these come payday but heard conflicting info regarding ads built into the OS. Apparently they only appear in the Xiaomi apps or when you install something from the play store. I wanted advice from actual owners, are there many ads? And is there a way to remove them (using AdGuard)?
For the price and specs I'm really tempted but not sure how I feel about being bombarded with ads.
Tetsuo1981 said:
Hi all.
Thinking of grabbing one of these come payday but heard conflicting info regarding ads built into the OS. Apparently they only appear in the Xiaomi apps or when you install something from the play store. I wanted advice from actual owners, are there many ads? And is there a way to remove them (using AdGuard)?
For the price and specs I'm really tempted but not sure how I feel about being bombarded with ads.
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Being a bit curious and having time to explore the devices, leaves you with absolutely no ads on the device.
For instance, you disable all sorts of tick boxes on the crappy MIUI security app, disable suggestions during setup and also while in the package installer, you press on its settings button (top right) and unselected both options there.
I have done this and confirm I have absolutely no ads on system apps on my Poco X3
Havent noticed much ads after turning off suggestions, an ad after downloading an app on playstore appears but nothing like a video ad or an unskippable one. So far no problems on my end as well. Deleted some apps using the debloater and I use mostly non-miui apps.
If you turn "security scan" off in the settings you will not get any adverts while installing apps. On my poco x3 those were the only ads i got while using the phone so everthing is well. The issue is not only the poco x3 tho, it is with more MIUI phones fortunately you can turn it off.
If I do buy this phone I am wait till I can replace the Stock OS as I hate Ads
Ads? Haven't noticed any ads yet.
I did factory reset the phone x4 times (other problem) and I think it got rid of some of the pre-installed games. Maybe it helped with ads to?
Where can I find the setting for off the suggestions?
machoguy said:
Where can I find the setting for off the suggestions?
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In the app itself.... Either recommendation or suggestion turn all to off...
Well I caved and got one. Betty happy with it and have tinkered and shut down all the ads I think. Not as intrusive as I feared but annoying. Glad you can remove them. Tempted to remove some of the bloatware but last time I used adb it went horribly wrong
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There are quite a few apps I downloaded from the Market to try, didn't care for and deleted. Now I keep getting nagged to install updates for these deleted apps. Ditto deleted crapware apps after rooting.
Is there a way to stop these nags for apps I no longer have on my phone? And still get update advisories for ones I kept?
I saw a thread about doing this with Amazon's store with a followup that the fix was automatically unfixed on sign-in, but I am primarily interested in deleted Market apps.
TIA for any help and advice on this!
Sounds a bit dodgy. I've never had 1 single update notification for an app that's not installed on my phone. It doesn't make sense.
Something's wrong there. You've got a bigger problem to fix than just some notifications.
Archer said:
Sounds a bit dodgy. I've never had 1 single update notification for an app that's not installed on my phone. It doesn't make sense.
Something's wrong there. You've got a bigger problem to fix than just some notifications.
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What do you mean it's dodgy? I'm not making it up!
It happens all the time.
I have read experiences of other users identical to mine, but no solutions.
Both with Android Market and with Amazon AppStore.
You download and install apps, try them but then delete them, but continue to get nags to update them.
What is this bigger problem you are suggesting?
Thanks for your interest.
I'm not suggesting you're making it up, just that it sounds very unusual. I've never heard of anyone having updates for apps they've uninstalled.
As for the "bigger problem", wait and see if you get any decent advice, but if not then I'd recommend a factory reset.
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Solution!
Well, this is amazing!
I stumbled on a totally non-Geek solution elsewhere:
Just Turn off Global Notifications of Market updates --
1. open Market on the phone
2. Press Menu Key
3. Select "Settings"
4. Use the drop down bar in the Notifications area to disable notifications.
I can still see notifications of updates when I open Market, but I don't get bugged and can just pick and choose the ones I use. Plus, I can still set the ones I choose to individually auto-update if I want.
Eureka!
Or am I celebrating too soon?
Hi guys
I recently purchased a Elephone S3 from Everbuying.com. I heard people talking about how notorious these Chinese phones are having malware installed on them, so I decided to give the malware check a go and use about 10+ popular Malware detection apps (Avast, Kaspersky, Avira, Trojan Killer, you name it) currently available on Play Store.
Out of all those, excluding warnings that doesn't really matter in this regards (Malware specific), the below two apps gave me those respective warning results.
I have done some research, but i don't think I found any relevant info in this regards. So, for all the guru out there, the question is obvious, should I be worried about these "non-deletable" apps (if not rooted)? If they ARE malicious, can I be worried free by turning off ALL permissions for the apps and in some case, disable the app (I can disable the Beauty Center, not ELE Launcher).
Thanks to you all for any input!
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
App - Beauty Center
Message - Android/PUP.Riskware.Cooee.a
App - ELE Launcher
Message - Android/PUP.Riskware.Cooee.H
Stubborn Trojan Killer
App - Beauty Center
Message - General Trojan
App - ELE Launcher
Message - General Trojan
bagachin said:
Hi guys
I recently purchased a Elephone S3 from Everbuying.com. I heard people talking about how notorious these Chinese phones are having malware installed on them, so I decided to give the malware check a go and use about 10+ popular Malware detection apps (Avast, Kaspersky, Avira, Trojan Killer, you name it) currently available on Play Store.
Out of all those, excluding warnings that doesn't really matter in this regards (Malware specific), the below two apps gave me those respective warning results.
I have done some research, but i don't think I found any relevant info in this regards. So, for all the guru out there, the question is obvious, should I be worried about these "non-deletable" apps (if not rooted)? If they ARE malicious, can I be worried free by turning off ALL permissions for the apps and in some case, disable the app (I can disable the Beauty Center, not ELE Launcher).
Thanks to you all for any input!
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
App - Beauty Center
Message - Android/PUP.Riskware.Cooee.a
App - ELE Launcher
Message - Android/PUP.Riskware.Cooee.H
Stubborn Trojan Killer
App - Beauty Center
Message - General Trojan
App - ELE Launcher
Message - General Trojan
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go ahead and disable Beauty Center, as far as ELE Launcher, that seems legit. But if you don't like it, just replace it with something like Nova Launcher.
mattzeller said:
go ahead and disable Beauty Center, as far as ELE Launcher, that seems legit. But if you don't like it, just replace it with something like Nova Launcher.
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Hi mattzeller, thanks heaps for the info! This might not be a good question, but just for my information, generally speaking, is there a way to distinguish between a real harmful malware (actively stealing personal info) and an app that has more access and integration to the phone's OS than others by looking at the information provided? In other words, is there any obvious give away sign?
Thanks again for the help!
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Hi mattzeller, thanks heaps for the info! This might not be a good question, but just for my information, generally speaking, is there a way to distinguish between a real harmful malware (actively stealing personal info) and an app that has more access and integration to the phone's OS than others by looking at the information provided? In other words, is there any obvious give away sign?
Thanks again for the help!
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Well look at reviews of the app, see if it is installing other apps without your consent, or constantly nagging you to download other apps. Generally 99.99% of apps on Google play are safe. Occasionally some crapware gets on there, but if you take a look at its rating and reviews (not just the highlights) you should be good.
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Hi mattzeller, thanks heaps for the info! This might not be a good question, but just for my information, generally speaking, is there a way to distinguish between a real harmful malware (actively stealing personal info) and an app that has more access and integration to the phone's OS than others by looking at the information provided? In other words, is there any obvious give away sign?
Thanks again for the help!
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Always check the apps permissions. I absolutely refuse to install an app that has permissions that it shouldn't be using. However, if the app you're about to download needs permissions related to the app features, that's OK with me.
I see so many Play Store apps that are just total spyware in my book. Flashlight apps are a good example of this. There is zero reasons a flashlight app needs to read my contacts or a data connection. Just be mindful of reviews and permissions and you'll be OK.
KernelCorn said:
Always check the apps permissions. I absolutely refuse to install an app that has permissions that it shouldn't be using. However, if the app you're about to download needs permissions related to the app features, that's OK with me.
I see so many Play Store apps that are just total spyware in my book. Flashlight apps are a good example of this. There is zero reasons a flashlight app needs to read my contacts or a data connection. Just be mindful of reviews and permissions and you'll be OK.
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I don't worry about apps with excessive permissions, I just revoke the permissions I don't like.
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I don't worry about apps with excessive permissions, I just revoke the permissions I don't like.
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That's the best way to do it.
I do the same thing, but I see lots of people posting here that aren't too tech savvy. For them be mindful of what you download.
mattzeller said:
Well look at reviews of the app, see if it is installing other apps without your consent, or constantly nagging you to download other apps. Generally 99.99% of apps on Google play are safe. Occasionally some crapware gets on there, but if you take a look at its rating and reviews (not just the highlights) you should be good.
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Thanks for the advice. Yes, I am aware that common source/cause of malwares are side load apps and rooted device. So I am always fairly cautious about any apps i installed via non-play store source. However, these two caught apk are installed right out of box. That kinda annoys me. I don't jump on the bandwagon and say Chinese phones are infested with malwares and I believe a lot of the time people just over exaggerate and blow some minority out of proportion.
However, the truth is, this is the first Chinese phone I got and it came with two identified malwares. To be fair, it might not be particularly malicious, but it's enough to make me have second thought about my purchase....
KernelCorn said:
Always check the apps permissions. I absolutely refuse to install an app that has permissions that it shouldn't be using. However, if the app you're about to download needs permissions related to the app features, that's OK with me.
I see so many Play Store apps that are just total spyware in my book. Flashlight apps are a good example of this. There is zero reasons a flashlight app needs to read my contacts or a data connection. Just be mindful of reviews and permissions and you'll be OK.
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Thanks for the comment! Yes, I am quite careful about the app I get to choose to install, but I have little control over these apps that come pre-installed on these chinese phone and got detected as "malwares"
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I don't worry about apps with excessive permissions, I just revoke the permissions I don't like.
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Yap, what I did for those two apps I mentioned are turning off all permissions access to them, disable app for the one I can and turn off background data access. Hopefully it will freeze them for good and stop them from playing naughty.
Just a question though, say I do all those above (e.g. switching off permission, force stopped etc), technically speaking, can a malware still be "active and do what they "meant" to do"? I meant after all, they are meant to do something "out of control" right?
bagachin said:
Yap, what I did for those two apps I mentioned are turning off all permissions access to them, disable app for the one I can and turn off background data access. Hopefully it will freeze them for good and stop them from playing naughty.
Just a question though, say I do all those above (e.g. switching off permission, force stopped etc), technically speaking, can a malware still be "active and do what they "meant" to do"? I meant after all, they are meant to do something "out of control" right?
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No, if you revoke the permission to view your contacts, it is the system that is blocking the apps ability to view your contacts.
Though I think you are being a little paranoid.
Everyone freaks out out all the permissions apps require, when the app actually never uses most of the permissions it asks for, at least not in the way you think. You wouldn't think the launcher needs permissions to access your contacts, but it does. How else is it going to allow you to make a call, or display an incoming all, or missed call/text badges.
I mean take a look at the litany of permissions Nova Launcher and TeslaUnread require, yet we all know the app is not malware. As long as you install from legitimate sources, you will be fine. Like I said in my first post, disable the Beauty app, the other is the Launcher. If you don't like it, install a different one.
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Who would you rather have snoop in on your calls? China, or USA.. Because it is one or the other.. me personally, I will take the country in which I do not reside...
mattzeller said:
No, if you revoke the permission to view your contacts, it is the system that is blocking the apps ability to view your contacts.
Though I think you are being a little paranoid.
Everyone freaks out out all the permissions apps require, when the app actually never uses most of the permissions it asks for, at least not in the way you think. You wouldn't think the launcher needs permissions to access your contacts, but it does. How else is it going to allow you to make a call, or display an incoming all, or missed call/text badges.
I mean take a look at the litany of permissions Nova Launcher and TeslaUnread require, yet we all know the app is not malware. As long as you install from legitimate sources, you will be fine. Like I said in my first post, disable the Beauty app, the other is the Launcher. If you don't like it, install a different one.
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Unfortunately the way things are with the permissive Android system, we have to be a little paranoid. The built in system apps like launchers and permissions can't be disabled easily unless the user is technical enough to know about rooting using apps like xposed/xprivacy.
Maybe have a couple reserved replies for different carriers?
i just did disable bloatware, i have no issues so far
unitz0mbie said:
i just did disable bloatware, i have no issues so far
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That's what we all want to do. Which carrier are you on and what did you disable that allows you to have no issues?
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burrzoo said:
That's what we all want to do. Which carrier are you on and what did you disable that allows you to have no issues?
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att variant with cricket sim, i just did disable all bloatware option in the app itself and i have no issues
Rather than a bunch of XML files from people that think it works FOR THEM, we need one big list of the packages WITH EXPLANATIONS as to what exactly they do, and any dependencies they may have that could break other stuff. Without that its all a waste of time. I've seen several threads like this now but not one was of any use at all because its just people posting an xml saying 'look at me i disabled 94 packages", which means nothing to anyone else who might need some of the stuff they disabled, or might not even have some of the stuff they disabled if its carrier specific.
I have no issue going down the list on my phone one at a time to see if it needs disabling, the problem is for a lot of them, I have no clue what they do, and googling them using the link form within the app didnt help at all. I am not going to disable something unless i know exactly what it does, I don't want to find out in 3 months time that something isnt working and spend forever trying to figure out why, at least if i know what each disabled thing does then i will remember that i had turned it off, i can refer back to the notes on what each one does and turn that one back on.
unitz0mbie said:
i just did disable bloatware, i have no issues so far
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Held my breath and did the same....All is well on att variant.
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so all this has been went over in the s7 forum multiple times if you do a Google search the info pops up everywhere. it will be the same for s8 since they are both on 7.0. Also debloat lists are different for everyone you may use something I don't...but there are plenty of safe apps to remove lists. Side note package disabler auto debloat has about 3 to 5 things you shouldn't turn off like the enterprise stuff and a couple others.
I also did disable all bloatware. However, I noticed it misses a lot of crapware on the phone. I ended up disabling another 30 or so myself. I'm sure I missed some and when I ha e time I will continue. I don't disable anything without knowing exactly what it is so it's very slow work
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Tigerhoods said:
so all this has been went over in the s7 forum multiple times if you do a Google search the info pops up everywhere. it will be the same for s8 since they are both on 7.0. Also debloat lists are different for everyone you may use something I don't...but there are plenty of safe apps to remove lists. Side note package disabler auto debloat has about 3 to 5 things you shouldn't turn off like the enterprise stuff and a couple others.
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Different phone. So excuse me for not expecting there to be some apps added or deleted. That might be needed or may not be. So kindly get fu-cked
djxn40 said:
I also did disable all bloatware. However, I noticed it misses a lot of crapware on the phone. I ended up disabling another 30 or so myself. I'm sure I missed some and when I ha e time I will continue. I don't disable anything without knowing exactly what it is so it's very slow work
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Like which ones.
paniro187 said:
Like which ones.
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I'll try to make a list in the next day or so but first I used the disable all bloatware feature. Then I added about 30 more myself. As the disable all bloatware disables roughly 70 general bloatware processes/apps
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djxn40 said:
I'll try to make a list in the next day or so but first I used the disable all bloatware feature. Then I added about 30 more myself. As the disable all bloatware disables roughly 70 general bloatware processes/apps
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Thank you
Disabling all bloatware also disables some apps/services that some wouldn't consider, like certain camera modes.
Hello Gang! I just wanted to point out a couple of my findings from my note 7/note 5 when using package disablers..
They can do more harm then good. Especially when disabling system APKS. Over time I would notice I was losing space because some aps were just creating error logs over and over and over.. Or trying to access apps over and over that have been disabled.
The best way to do things is to go into app manager and disable the bloatware ONLY. This is facebook,NFL, verizon apps, etc. Do not disable anything system related other then the updates if you want to stop getting updates but even then I believe that might cause some issues. I have currently used package disabler to disable ONLY the "samsung update" apks and manaully disabled or removed the bloatware from verizon via app manager and have been going a week strong with 0 issues that everyone else seems to have and over 170+ apps installed and enabled.
I have done EXTENSIVE testing on this matter. You can search the note 7 and note 5 verizon forums if you wish to check my creds =D
Just be careful. We found out with the S7 that disabling certain packages actually caused an increase in battery drain. What happens is that a certain process keeps pinging another process over and over again because it's not getting an answer in return.
I would recommend disabling 5 packages at a time and see what kind of effect it has on things.
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Hello Gang! I just wanted to point out a couple of my findings from my note 7/note 5 when using package disablers..
They can do more harm then good. Especially when disabling system APKS. Over time I would notice I was losing space because some aps were just creating error logs over and over and over.. Or trying to access apps over and over that have been disabled.
The best way to do things is to go into app manager and disable the bloatware ONLY. This is facebook,NFL, verizon apps, etc. Do not disable anything system related other then the updates if you want to stop getting updates but even then I believe that might cause some issues. I have currently used package disabler to disable ONLY the "samsung update" apks and manaully disabled or removed the bloatware from verizon via app manager and have been going a week strong with 0 issues that everyone else seems to have and over 170+ apps installed and enabled.
I have done EXTENSIVE testing on this matter. You can search the note 7 and note 5 verizon forums if you wish to check my creds =D
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Could you tell me where to look for error logs to see if this is happening? That sounds like it could cause major battery drain.
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If you click disable all bloat ware it disable the external media package which then makes it where you cannot access your sd card
You cant jus blindly disabled the stuff that package disabler has classed as bloatware and coloured pink because some of it is CLEARLY not bloatware and a lotof the bloatware is not even coloured pink.
What we need to know (still) is what ones are safe to disable, and what ones are NOT safe to disable. There are 4 ANT services it has coloured pink, i am not sure what they are but stuff to do with antennas doesnt sound like bloatware to me? I disabled them anyway and not noticed anything bad. I left all the knox stuff enabled because i use Secure Folder and I expect it needs all the knox stuff to work.
I have disabled things like DEX, bixby, S Health, anything to do with Edge stuff, blue light filter which i dont need, carmode stub (for some drivelink car thing that i dont have), the clock, "CNN for edge panel" which is obviously bloat but isnt even coloured pink, enterprise sim pin services, enterprise vpn servcices, epdgtestapp, anything to do with Gear VR, google play music, gooogle play movies and tv, nfc service, photos, professional audio. and the obvious bloatware like excel etc.
My battery life is good, but now im worried something might be creating logs and filling up my space!
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You cant jus blindly disabled the stuff that package disabler has classed as bloatware and coloured pink because some of it is CLEARLY not bloatware and a lotof the bloatware is not even coloured pink.
What we need to know (still) is what ones are safe to disable, and what ones are NOT safe to disable. There are 4 ANT services it has coloured pink, i am not sure what they are but stuff to do with antennas doesnt sound like bloatware to me? I disabled them anyway and not noticed anything bad. I left all the knox stuff enabled because i use Secure Folder and I expect it needs all the knox stuff to work.
I have disabled things like DEX, bixby, S Health, anything to do with Edge stuff, blue light filter which i dont need, carmode stub (for some drivelink car thing that i dont have), the clock, "CNN for edge panel" which is obviously bloat but isnt even coloured pink, enterprise sim pin services, enterprise vpn servcices, epdgtestapp, anything to do with Gear VR, google play music, gooogle play movies and tv, nfc service, photos, professional audio. and the obvious bloatware like excel etc.
My battery life is good, but now im worried something might be creating logs and filling up my space!
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I disabled all things that said att at this point.
ars0n said:
Hello Gang! I just wanted to point out a couple of my findings from my note 7/note 5 when using package disablers..
They can do more harm then good. Especially when disabling system APKS. Over time I would notice I was losing space because some aps were just creating error logs over and over and over.. Or trying to access apps over and over that have been disabled.
The best way to do things is to go into app manager and disable the bloatware ONLY. This is facebook,NFL, verizon apps, etc. Do not disable anything system related other then the updates if you want to stop getting updates but even then I believe that might cause some issues. I have currently used package disabler to disable ONLY the "samsung update" apks and manaully disabled or removed the bloatware from verizon via app manager and have been going a week strong with 0 issues that everyone else seems to have and over 170+ apps installed and enabled.
I have done EXTENSIVE testing on this matter. You can search the note 7 and note 5 verizon forums if you wish to check my creds =D
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This is dead on. Unless you know exactly what dependancies the app is that you are using package disabler depends on, you are going to do a lot more harm than good. This phone sleeps apps not used after a few days and the rest you need to be very careful with killing, because the phone could check for the app or an app that depends on it could check over and over and over, causing slowdowns, powerloss etc.
A friend was getting full screen ads on some of her stock apps on an older Xiaomi phone.
I was told many times that wasn't normal and the vendor must have flashed a bad rom.
Now I have ads on a stock app.
Is Xiaomi just putting ads all over? Because it will definitely be my last Xiaomi phone, and I will tell everyone to never buy one.
What's going on?
Well it's their themes store and the only way they make money(they hope you to buy their stuff in their store, they don't make much money from the phones). In the Google Play store the first two search results are ads too sometimes
Gmail has ads,too.You don't like them,but Xiaomi needs them.
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Gmail has ads,too.You don't like them,but Xiaomi needs them.
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Yeah, but I don't use Gmail because it has ads, amongst other things.
I don't have an alternative to this theme store.
Oh well, something else to delete when I get around to rooting.
Very annoying. Ads in Stock apps are NEVER ok.
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Yeah, but I don't use Gmail because it has ads, amongst other things.
I don't have an alternative to this theme store.
Oh well, something else to delete when I get around to rooting.
Very annoying. Ads in Stock apps are NEVER ok.
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When you are rooted you can install adaway and won't have ads in the themes app. This way you can keep it if you want to
I bought my device on the 14th and the time that I have had it I haven't seen a single ad on any of the miui apps. I see ads on other apps I use like boost for reddit. But no miui ads. My file manager is clean. I remember seeing ads on it on whyred ages ago.
As for Bloatware I only had Facebook and YouTube music and YouTube itself. Otherwise I don't consider the radio, miui service feedback as bloat.
Anyone else with this device have the same. I see a lot of complaints from x4 pro owners but my experience on miui has been very solid. Only real issue I've seen is the screen flickering at certain brightness levels.
Nvm. I guess it took a while but I see ads now.
KHSH01 said:
I bought my device on the 14th and the time that I have had it I haven't seen a single ad on any of the miui apps. I see ads on other apps I use like boost for reddit. But no miui ads. My file manager is clean. I remember seeing ads on it on whyred ages ago.
As for Bloatware I only had Facebook and YouTube music and YouTube itself. Otherwise I don't consider the radio, miui service feedback as bloat.
Anyone else with this device have the same. I see a lot of complaints from x4 pro owners but my experience on miui has been very solid. Only real issue I've seen is the screen flickering at certain brightness levels.
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Hi, it seems that i didn't receive ads for a while too
can't say when it stopped since I've shifted to an AOSP based rom
but all my time being on Miui I've received no ads on this device (i have received ads on a different device though)
can't say the same for bloatware sadly, Miui IN has way too much bloatware for me to even list down
some of them are
Mi pay, Mi mail, Mi store, Mi coin, Mi Browser and the list just keeps going on
For me I only see adds in a couple of apps if I run them so try not to run them like in cleaner and I think the security app as for bloatware I would say Kaspersky is rubbish as the phone has i think avast as it's security within the phone that I don't think you can take off for me I think maybe what if they leave say 90% of all apps of the device and maybe have a file app with all the crap so you can choose what to install so no Google apps apart from the play store you know the basics that is vital for you to use your phone but still give the phone some nice things a strange one for me is second space some apps for me in there are not on the main account
Received my Global X4 Pro 5G last week and it came with bloat, ads and other junk but the Android 12 update pending. However, after updating to 12 the only things still there are Mi remote, Themes and Mi Video. I'm also using ControlD as my private dns and when I check the logs there are all sorts of blocked polling attempts to Xiaomi servers.