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so i just recently saw that the android market got rid of any apps that download mp3 music but didnt google let people post any kind of app? or are they following there rivals evil ways (apple) of restricting certain apps?
Most likely influence from carriers are recording companies.
isaac970 said:
didnt google let people post any kind of app?
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They let you post any kind of app to the market. They just don't promise that it will stay there. They will kick out apps that can get them in legal trouble.
Google is not Apple, because Android will let you install off-market apps out of the box. The option is right there in the stock settings menu. iOS will only let you shop at the competition if you're willing to jailbreak and void your warranty.
I like Music Junk
GTunes Music was a very good app they took off the market. Good thing I had it backed up!
dooley19 said:
GTunes Music was a very good app they took off the market. Good thing I had it backed up!
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Yes definitely this.
Hey guys,
Dumb question that I'm pretty sure I know the answer to, but I'll ask anyway just to double check:
Stock, rooted N5: Can I use TiBu to uninstall Google apps that are pre installed as system apps, then turn around and install those same apps through the Play Store as regular user apps? Any ill effects to this? Primarily looking at Google Music, so I can then Greenify it once it's installed as a regular app. Everything I know tells me this is fine but it never hurts to ask, right? May do the same with Keep, Currents, G+, etc...
Thanks in advance
slider112 said:
Hey guys,
Dumb question that I'm pretty sure I know the answer to, but I'll ask anyway just to double check:
Stock, rooted N5: Can I use TiBu to uninstall Google apps that are pre installed as system apps, then turn around and install those same apps through the Play Store as regular user apps? Any ill effects to this? Primarily looking at Google Music, so I can then Greenify it once it's installed as a regular app. Everything I know tells me this is fine but it never hurts to ask, right? May do the same with Keep, Currents, G+, etc...
Thanks in advance
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Yep, you can uninstall Google apps, like music, plus, magazine, etc... and download as user apps, then greenify them.
I removed some them on day 1 when was on stock and now whenever I flash a new Rom with Gapps. Just be careful with what you choose. I recommend to first back them up then if everything is fine, delete backups.
GUGUITOMTG4 said:
Yep, you can uninstall Google apps, like music, plus, magazine, etc... and download as user apps, then greenify them.
I removed some them on day 1 when was on stock and now whenever I flash a new Rom with Gapps. Just be careful with what you choose. I recommend to first back them up then if everything is fine, delete backups.
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Great, thanks for confirming. Just gonna stick to the basics, but will back up through TiBu first as a precaution. Google Music was at the forefront because at times it runs in the background when bluetooth is turned on. It was either go this route or purchase the full version of Greenify so I could hibernate all system apps. Greenify is well worth the support, but would rather just de-clutter things this way.
Thanks again, much appreciated. :good:
Don't delete. Freeze. There is nothing to gain by deleting
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You lose OTA ability if you outright delete.
Like was stated, freeze them. If you were going to uninstall them through Titanium anyway.....
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rootSU said:
Don't delete. Freeze. There is nothing to gain by deleting
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So freeze Google Music as a system app, then install as a user app from the play store? Seems kind of redundant. I understand that logic and have followed that for other system apps in the past on other devices, but is that really the preferred method if I'm only dealing with Google apps that were installed as system apps from the factory, only by default, and can be easily reinstalled via the play store? Oh, and I'm running Franco's kernel so the OTA capability ship has already sailed anyway...
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So freeze Google Music as a system app, then install as a user app from the play store? Seems kind of redundant. I understand that logic and have followed that for other system apps in the past on other devices, but is that really the preferred method if I'm only dealing with Google apps that were installed as system apps from the factory, only by default, and can be easily reinstalled via the play store? Oh, and I'm running Franco's kernel so the OTA capability ship has already sailed anyway...
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Why would you then install it as a user app? System apps that are also available in play can still be updated via play anyway.
rootSU said:
Why would you then install it as a user app? System apps that are also available in play can still be updated via play anyway.
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Yes, I know that. So I can greenify it. Google Music will run in the background once bluetooth is turned on. Can't greenify system apps with the basic app, so for that particular app I think this would be the easiest method.
Ah well, yep. Non-donators are forced to do weird things.
rootSU said:
Ah well, yep. Non-donators are forced to do weird things.
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Lol. Nothing weird about it. Worked fine. Google apps really shouldn't be installed as system apps if they're available in the play store. The user should have the choice of what they want and don't want. Easily corrected.
They do. Its called "custom rom"
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They do. Its called "custom rom"
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They also have "titanium backup". Uninstalled. Done. "Custom roms" aren't for everyone. I've run plenty since my original droid days and just never use half the features included. I want rooted stock, and I have it. Thanks for everyones input.
Yep. Can get custom roms based on stock that have skeleton gapps. To answer your statement earlier
"Google apps really shouldn't be installed as system apps if they're available in the play store"
Well yes they should as that is where they are designed to be. They are on the play store to allow updating outside the scope of OTA.
And of course it's your prerogative to remove apps as system apps and make them user apps, but I do get the feeling you're only doing it to continue using greenify without donating. But then again, it's none of my business whether you donate or not.
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Yep. Can get custom roms based on stock that have skeleton gapps. To answer your statement earlier
"Google apps really shouldn't be installed as system apps if they're available in the play store"
Well yes they should as that is where they are designed to be. They are on the play store to allow updating outside the scope of OTA.
And of course it's your prerogative to remove apps as system apps and make them user apps, but I do get the feeling you're only doing it to continue using greenify without donating. But then again, it's none of my business whether you donate or not.
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Yep. Can get custom roms based on stock that have skeleton gapps. To answer your statement earlier.
- Yep. Know that. I only flash core/mini gapps packages on the "custom roms" I've run. But "based on stock" isn't stock. Point was more about not needing/wanting the extra features that "custom roms" provide. Especially on a pure google device like the N5.
"Google apps really shouldn't be installed as system apps if they're available in the play store"
Well yes they should as that is where they are designed to be. They are on the play store to allow updating outside the scope of OTA.
- Opinion. They're not designed to be system apps and there is no benefit having them installed as such. They're system apps on Nexus devices because they're made by Google, only reason. They're on the play store to allow for users of non google devices to install/uninstall as they please.
And of course it's your prerogative to remove apps as system apps and make them user apps, but I do get the feeling you're only doing it to continue using greenify without donating. But then again, it's none of my business whether you donate or not.
- You get that feeling because that's exactly why I'm doing it. Never implied otherwise. Let's not go down the "you should support all developers for their hard work" road here. I've purchased more apps over the years than I care to admit, and continue to support developers and their hard work. Case in point: Titanium Backup Pro; which I used as the alternative here.
For the first time in 6 years of Android phones, I just had an ad pop up in my notifications. It was for the Walgreens drug store app. (An app I do not have installed.)
From googling, it seems it's pushed from an app I have installed, but it should be easy to figure out as I've only installed 2 new apps on this phone that I didn't have on my last phone.
Has anyone else experienced this? What apps have you found that do this?
(This is not cool at all.)
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For the first time in 6 years of Android phones, I just had an ad pop up in my notifications. It was for the Walgreens drug store app. (And app I do not have installed.)
From googling, it seems it's pushed from an app I have installed, but it should be easy to figure out as I've only installed 2 new apps on this phone that I didn't have on my last phone.
Has anyone else experienced this? What apps have you found that do this?
(This is not cool at all.)
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Have you tried turning off the "Show Notifications" for that app through the Apps option in Android Settings?
DevonSloan said:
For the first time in 6 years of Android phones, I just had an ad pop up in my notifications. It was for the Walgreens drug store app. (And app I do not have installed.)
From googling, it seems it's pushed from an app I have installed, but it should be easy to figure out as I've only installed 2 new apps on this phone that I didn't have on my last phone.
Has anyone else experienced this? What apps have you found that do this?
(This is not cool at all.)
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Do as guyd says. If it happens again with another app and the notification is still there, hold it until it changes, then press the "i" button that appears. From there you can do the same.
Note that you cannot block notifications from most system apps
guyd said:
Have you tried turning off the "Show Notifications" for that app through the Apps option in Android Settings?
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A typo in my original post must have made it unclear - the ad was for an app that is not installed. I have no idea what app is pushing the ad.
DevonSloan said:
A typo in my original post must have made it unclear - the ad was for an app that is not installed. I have no idea what app is pushing the ad.
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Regardless, if you hold down on the notification it should show you the source app (not the app that is in the ad, but the app that's pushing the ad) and you'll be able to take action by tapping on the "i" button.
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Regardless, if you hold down on the notification it should show you the source app (not the app that is in the ad, but the app that's pushing the ad) and you'll be able to take action by tapping on the "i" button.
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Thanks. I'll try that next time I see it.
If you use Chrome, it could also be the new web notifications feature. Have you visited the Walgreens website in Chrome on the phone?
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If you use Chrome, it could also be the new web notifications feature. Have you visited the Walgreens website in Chrome on the phone?
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+1
If that's the case, you can just clear cookies in Chrome. Though that is definitely not a cool thing to happen in the first place.
Sevael said:
If you use Chrome, it could also be the new web notifications feature. Have you visited the Walgreens website in Chrome on the phone?
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Ugh. I do use Chrome, but I have not visited the Walgreens website on it. (Or ever, anywhere.) I'll see if removing it helps. Thanks.
So now Chrome isn't only the worst desktop browser, it's the worst Android browser. That's an accomplishment.
DevonSloan said:
Ugh. I do use Chrome, but I have not visited the Walgreens website on it. (Or ever, anywhere.) I'll see if removing it helps. Thanks.
So now Chrome isn't only the worst desktop browser, it's the worst Android browser. That's an accomplishment.
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The ads come from other apps. Chrome has never placed ads in the notifications. This is done by something built into the apps. I forget what it's called of the bat. Airpush I think. Some apps do this to make money when they are free apps. There is an app that will detect any app that does this. Then just uninstall it. The above device will cancel notifications completely from the app causing it.
Had the exact same experience on both my S6 and my wife's. Something fishy, no indication what app caused it.
What carrier are you on? I am on Sprint, and their bloatware apps "Sprint Zone" and "Sprint Fun & Games" like to advertise apps in the notification bar every now and then. I hate it, because there is no way to disable the apps unless I root.
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What carrier are you on? I am on Sprint, and their bloatware apps "Sprint Zone" and "Sprint Fun & Games" like to advertise apps in the notification bar every now and then. I hate it, because there is no way to disable the apps unless I root.
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Sprint as well. That's unfortunate as this will be my first non-rooted phone due to Samsung Pay. I was hoping android/Sumsung had come far enough that I didn't need to root/rom, but it looks like I'm in for a frustrating experience.
DevonSloan said:
For the first time in 6 years of Android phones, I just had an ad pop up in my notifications. It was for the Walgreens drug store app. (An app I do not have installed.)
From googling, it seems it's pushed from an app I have installed, but it should be easy to figure out as I've only installed 2 new apps on this phone that I didn't have on my last phone.
Has anyone else experienced this? What apps have you found that do this?
(This is not cool at all.)
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Do you have GoSMS installed? Not sure if it still does it but it started doing something really similar to me a month or so ago.
ITNV said:
Do you have GoSMS installed? Not sure if it still does it but it started doing something really similar to me a month or so ago.
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I'm assuming no because I have no idea what it is.
I'm on Sprint as well. So, we're thinking it was Sprint Zone???
Keebler1175 said:
I'm on Sprint as well. So, we're thinking it was Sprint Zone???
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I think maybe so. I took a screenshot of one today. (I don't know how many have some through as I often just swipe off notifications without looking at them. This was at least the second one today, as right after I swiped one of them away, I decided to make a conscious effort to screenshot the next.) I forgot to press/hold until the "i" shows up to see app info. I'll have to remember that for next time.
Sprint - Featured Apps <-- That's the culprit. You'll want to disable notifications on that application in the settings menu, under all apps, or uninstall it, which is what I did.
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Sprint - Featured Apps <-- That's the culprit. You'll want to disable notifications on that application in the settings menu, under all apps, or uninstall it, which is what I did.
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Thanks. Also, mine showed the option for uninstall, and it seems to have done so. I wouldn't be surprised it if auto-reinstalls, though. Hopefully this works. THANKS!
Its from Sprint Featured Apps. Block its notifications. It can also be uninstalled from Applications>all>uninstall.
I had that same thing happen with my samsjng galaxy s6 from Sprint. Its infuriating adware bloatware.
Greetings,
Since the begginning I use all my android device without google. I know that this phone is new, not so many rom out there, I can't wait to have one, where we can flash gapps separate.
But til that, I deciced to delete all google staff manually (except for gboard, as I can't find any decent keyboard).
I'm not sure, but I guess for this decision I have some issues. All the apps with a built in browser force close or don't react if I wanna use its browser. Some other apps won't even start. (Not even says any "missing google play services msg")
My question is, how can I make sure what cause the problem, plus how I need to do properly to skip google?
I deleted gapps with titanium backup.
I have also an ancient galaxy s4 on lineage, only rom, there these things work like a charm. (With its limited speed )
Or do u think there's gonna be option soon to do only rom for the phone?
Plus if u have the same "googless" system on any device, please share with me how u do with google pendent apps, which play store alternative u use etc..
Thanks
ii9 said:
Greetings,
Since the begginning I use all my android device without google. I know that this phone is new, not so many rom out there, I can't wait to have one, where we can flash gapps separate.
But til that, I deciced to delete all google staff manually (except for gboard, as I can't find any decent keyboard).
I'm not sure, but I guess for this decision I have some issues. All the apps with a built in browser force close or don't react if I wanna use its browser. Some other apps won't even start. (Not even says any "missing google play services msg")
My question is, how can I make sure what cause the problem, plus how I need to do properly to skip google?
I deleted gapps with titanium backup.
I have also an ancient galaxy s4 on lineage, only rom, there these things work like a charm. (With its limited speed )
Or do u think there's gonna be option soon to do only rom for the phone?
Plus if u have the same "googless" system on any device, please share with me how u do with google pendent apps, which play store alternative u use etc..
Thanks
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Might be the webview, it defaults to chrome. look into developers option/ webview implementation and ensure its set to Android System instead of Chrome. That may solve part of the problem
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Might be the webview, it defaults to chrome. look into developers option/ webview implementation and ensure its set to Android System instead of Chrome. That may solve part of the problem
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Yes, that was my first guess as well, but as i deleted google, the only option is the android system, so nothing to do there, its set on that. Also checked on the s4, just by curiosity, it has exactly the same version, therefore this part should be fine.
Thanks
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Yes, that was my first guess as well, but as i deleted google, the only option is the android system, so nothing to do there, its set on that. Also checked on the s4, just by curiosity, it has exactly the same version, therefore this part should be fine.
Thanks
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I would start over and go gradually removing stuff and testing starting form the mist insignificant to the most complicated ones like services and framework, etc
Perhaps you want to look also into the tomato debloater thread. They have some tested scripts to remove google apps
Yeah that could be an idea, at some point that will be the next step.
I looked for this tomato db, it also gets closer to my idea, but til i don't find out the thing u mentioned, i'm not sure about it, as it's not 100% google free. Though sure i'll do the invisible option.
Plus there r some things in the extreme, that i'm okay with, like ambient screen for example. My dream is to have fully optimised and stable rom, that use all the benefits, what this exact device can offer, + tweak options, but obviously without all the trash, + without gapps. Y they don't just let us choose if we want netflix for example?
Apart from this, i really don't get, y stock roms don't give basic option, like disable pop up notifications. Such a little option, but so useful.
I wish i knew how long it takes to make these clean roms, but in case if not soon, i'll go for this options what u wrote, thank u
Is there any way to have push notification?
(And i know it's nothing to do with google, but also if you know how to disable popups, please share with me as well)
ii9 said:
Greetings,
Since the begginning I use all my android device without google. I know that this phone is new, not so many rom out there, I can't wait to have one, where we can flash gapps separate.
But til that, I deciced to delete all google staff manually (except for gboard, as I can't find any decent keyboard).
I'm not sure, but I guess for this decision I have some issues. All the apps with a built in browser force close or don't react if I wanna use its browser. Some other apps won't even start. (Not even says any "missing google play services msg")
My question is, how can I make sure what cause the problem, plus how I need to do properly to skip google?
I deleted gapps with titanium backup.
I have also an ancient galaxy s4 on lineage, only rom, there these things work like a charm. (With its limited speed )
Or do u think there's gonna be option soon to do only rom for the phone?
Plus if u have the same "googless" system on any device, please share with me how u do with google pendent apps, which play store alternative u use etc..
Thanks
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I havent had chrome, ok google, google, and all google related stuff for years. I have deleted them with titanium backup always, even on my op 7 pro. I only have playstore and use brave instead of chrome. No issues so far
ii9 said:
I deciced to delete all google staff manually (except for gboard, as I can't find any decent keyboard).
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AOSP keyboard with swipe.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/enhancedime-aosp-latinime-enhancements-t3366639
jamesfitzes said:
I havent had chrome, ok google, google, and all google related stuff for years. I have deleted them with titanium backup always, even on my op 7 pro. I only have playstore and use brave instead of chrome. No issues so far
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I did the same, but includeing paly services, framework.., all. I use apkpure store, now i even managed the the system webview to work. Not the one built in, that did't work, no matter what i did. From magisk i found something systemless webview, that does the job.
The only thing i miss is the push notification. (And block popup). Im shocked that no solution so far, that's y we like android. But with some things they look to move on the way of ios.
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AOSP keyboard with swipe.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/enhancedime-aosp-latinime-enhancements-t3366639
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That's nice, but it stucks on the welcome screen after i've installed. In the settings no otion to change. What i need to do?
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I enabled screen rotation and it's fine now, just an ui issue on landscape
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From magisk i found something systemless webview
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Thank you! Been trying to figure out how to achieve that.
Hi all.
Thinking of grabbing one of these come payday but heard conflicting info regarding ads built into the OS. Apparently they only appear in the Xiaomi apps or when you install something from the play store. I wanted advice from actual owners, are there many ads? And is there a way to remove them (using AdGuard)?
For the price and specs I'm really tempted but not sure how I feel about being bombarded with ads.
Tetsuo1981 said:
Hi all.
Thinking of grabbing one of these come payday but heard conflicting info regarding ads built into the OS. Apparently they only appear in the Xiaomi apps or when you install something from the play store. I wanted advice from actual owners, are there many ads? And is there a way to remove them (using AdGuard)?
For the price and specs I'm really tempted but not sure how I feel about being bombarded with ads.
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Being a bit curious and having time to explore the devices, leaves you with absolutely no ads on the device.
For instance, you disable all sorts of tick boxes on the crappy MIUI security app, disable suggestions during setup and also while in the package installer, you press on its settings button (top right) and unselected both options there.
I have done this and confirm I have absolutely no ads on system apps on my Poco X3
Havent noticed much ads after turning off suggestions, an ad after downloading an app on playstore appears but nothing like a video ad or an unskippable one. So far no problems on my end as well. Deleted some apps using the debloater and I use mostly non-miui apps.
If you turn "security scan" off in the settings you will not get any adverts while installing apps. On my poco x3 those were the only ads i got while using the phone so everthing is well. The issue is not only the poco x3 tho, it is with more MIUI phones fortunately you can turn it off.
If I do buy this phone I am wait till I can replace the Stock OS as I hate Ads
Ads? Haven't noticed any ads yet.
I did factory reset the phone x4 times (other problem) and I think it got rid of some of the pre-installed games. Maybe it helped with ads to?
Where can I find the setting for off the suggestions?
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Where can I find the setting for off the suggestions?
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In the app itself.... Either recommendation or suggestion turn all to off...
Well I caved and got one. Betty happy with it and have tinkered and shut down all the ads I think. Not as intrusive as I feared but annoying. Glad you can remove them. Tempted to remove some of the bloatware but last time I used adb it went horribly wrong