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Does anyone have a full listing of every app removable from the stock rom without killing it? I've frozen lots of stuff that I don't believe should impact general performance, but end up having to completely wipe and reinstall due to something I've frozen rendering my screen unusable. I think it's in the Samsung apps, but haven't done enough testing to determine which apps it NEEDS to have running in order to work.
The tablet can boot up just fine but as soon as I go to unlock it, it just sits at the homescreen unresponsive to any button or touch input.
nickhimself said:
I've frozen lots of stuff that I don't believe should impact general performance ... The tablet can boot up just fine but as soon as I go to unlock it, it just sits at the homescreen unresponsive to any button or touch input.
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This is not a "bloatware" issue (and it kills me when people go hunting for this stuff, unused software really has minimal impact).
You may be suffering from a problem I'd discovered with the Samsung kernel (namely, it doesn't reserve enough memory that the Android framework needs in order to do InterProcess Communication).
Can you try this kernel (rename the file to "boot.img" and flash it with either Odin or Mobile Odin) and tell me if that fixes anything for you?
The meaning of my quoted sentence in your post was central to the freezing issue I had following a reboot after I'd disabled apps. I didn't disable them because I thought my tablet was running slowly, I disabled them because I didn't want 200 applications installed because some guy in Samsung's marketing department said "well they have to have twelve different notepad applications, nine clocks, four calendars, several methods of backing up data to various cloud services, and also put a whole bunch of wallpapers in there for no reason because I really like cats and flowers so other people probably do too."
Also, sorry to tell you this kcrudup, but... I'm already using your kernel anyway
nickhimself said:
... following a reboot after I'd disabled apps ... I'm already using your kernel anyway
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OK, as long as this is a case of "shooting yourself in the foot", then.
BTW, wallpapers (as just one example) take up NO resources if not used, and since you're not going to be installing anything in /system anyway, what's the point?
(BTW, it's not just you I'm talking to here- it's all the other Quixotic "bloatware" folks out there. Unless something like "Better Battery Stats" are showing multiple wakelock instances and/or Alarms, y'all are wasting your time on that; eliminating "bloatware" is the "ATK" of ICS+)
kcrudup said:
OK, as long as this is a case of "shooting yourself in the foot", then.
BTW, wallpapers (as just one example) take up NO resources if not used, and since you're not going to be installing anything in /system anyway, what's the point?
(BTW, it's not just you I'm talking to here- it's all the other Quixotic "bloatware" folks out there. Unless something like "Better Battery Stats" are showing multiple wakelock instances and/or Alarms, y'all are wasting your time on that; eliminating "bloatware" is the "ATK" of ICS+)
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I think it's more carryover from working with windows for so long. I'm used to, possibly even trained, on expecting the first steps after a new install to be Clean Out Everything and Trim Services ASAP.
I just don't like feeling like I have no power over a stock ROM through removing any and every piece of software I just don't want.
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I just don't like feeling like I have no power over a stock ROM through removing any and every piece of software I just don't want.
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Sure, I get that. One thing to remember (and I've worked on a number of Android devices over the years for a number of manufacturers and carriers) is that no manufacturer (nor carrier, believe it or not) wants to do anything that reduces overall performance (even predatory ones like VZW who'd rob your Grandmother if there's a dime to be made off her).
What's instructive is to run BBS and check on "Alarms", "Network" and "Partial Wakelocks" at the reference "Since Boot" after the tablet's been on a while- you'll see that all this "bloatware" isn't even a factor in the parts of the system that count.
Basics
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
jje
Hi all,
This question has probably been asked; the problem is not a lack of solutions but there simply being too many - I've no idea where to begin with troubleshooting. Everything I've seen is just to general to be of any use.
Basically...
I installed CM11 (nightly build for my Motorola Moto G, AKA falcon). I've stripped down some of the GAPPS using the 'Barebones' guide on the CM wiki, e.g. removing the Google+ program I don't use, and the stock broswer (replacing with Lightning from the F-Droid repo). I've also installed various other programs to enable me to have absolute control over the device - AdAway, AFWall+ probably being the only two of interest.
I have no internet access either through data or via the house wifi; I have confirmation the problem is confined to my device since no one else in the house has problems, and my laptop and desktop work without trouble (incidently, the router has recently been changed also, so I now have the problem confirmed on two access points). It's not a reception issue either - the device connects fine to the router (albeit with fairly weak reception because of my distance away), in the 'Settings' dialogue I can see it 'Obtains IP address' etc without any obvious error message/hangs/stalling (and in settings displays itself as 'Connected').
Aside from being directed to a fix, I'd really appreciate it if someone could give me some kind of 'here's how you troubleshoot Android internet access' tutorial; I've got a bit of experience with desktop Linux, and more still with Windoze (albeit unwillingly) - I'm quite comfortable fiddling with the network manager or trying different kernel modules out. On Android, I've just no idea.
So far I have tried:
- Reinstalling the ROM (on both installs, the problem occurs after a few days to ~ a week of normal functioning).
- Uninstalling the AFWall+ (I think it's a DroidWall fork - acts as a frontend for iptables) on the last install, and on this one fiddling with the settings (unticking and re-ticking all boxes to allow on roaming/mobile data/wifi connections
- Uninstalling AdAway (on the last install only)
- Issuing 'ping' in the terminal. It's now just returning an "Error: Unknown host" message, yesterday when I was having trouble with the router, it was returning to do with insufficient privileges (even after I'd ran su to login as root).
-Turning the device on and off (in desperation only).
- I can also confirm the internet access affects not just Lightning (i.e. my browser) but is system wide - Skype, BBC iPlayer, weather updates in cLock etc.
As is probably obvious, I feel I've done little more than bash the screen with a rock and hoped for the best (metaphorically speaking).
I'm wondering if maybe there's something wrong with my hosts file - or else the way packets are sent/received, since Adaway will have altered that, and AFWall+ also. Maybe some bug whereby rules applied by AFWall+ are misinterpreted by iptables to block all access? Any help investigating this avenue in particular would be really helpful.
Also, just in case it wasn't clear, I've got full functionality of everything else, no crashes, able to make/receive calls and SMSes fine etc.
Cheers,
AA.
ArminasAnarchy said:
Hi all,
This question has probably been asked; the problem is not a lack of solutions but there simply being too many - I've no idea where to begin with troubleshooting. Everything I've seen is just to general to be of any use.
Basically...
I installed CM11 (nightly build for my Motorola Moto G, AKA falcon). I've stripped down some of the GAPPS using the 'Barebones' guide on the CM wiki, e.g. removing the Google+ program I don't use, and the stock broswer (replacing with Lightning from the F-Droid repo). I've also installed various other programs to enable me to have absolute control over the device - AdAway, AFWall+ probably being the only two of interest.
I have no internet access either through data or via the house wifi; I have confirmation the problem is confined to my device since no one else in the house has problems, and my laptop and desktop work without trouble (incidently, the router has recently been changed also, so I now have the problem confirmed on two access points).
Aside from being directed to a fix, I'd really appreciate it if someone could give me some kind of 'here's how you troubleshoot Android internet access' tutorial; I've got a bit of experience with desktop Linux, and more still with Windoze (albeit unwillingly) - I'm quite comfortable fiddling with the network manager or trying different kernel modules out. On Android, I've just no idea.
So far I have tried:
- Reinstalling the ROM (on both installs, the problem occurs after a few days to ~ a week of normal functioning).
- Uninstalling the AFWall+ (I think it's a DroidWall fork - acts as a frontend for iptables) on the last install, and on this one fiddling with the settings (unticking and re-ticking all boxes to allow on roaming/mobile data/wifi connections
- Uninstalling AdAway (on the last install only)
- Issuing 'ping' in the terminal. It's now just returning an "Error: Unknown host" message, yesterday when I was having trouble with the router, it was returning to do with insufficient privileges (even after I'd ran su to login as root).
-Turning the device on and off (in desperation only).
As is probably obvious, I feel I've done little more than bash the screen with a rock and hoped for the best (metaphorically speaking).
I'm wondering if maybe there's something wrong with my hosts file - or else the way packets are sent/received, since Adaway will have altered that, and AFWall+ also. Maybe some bug whereby rules applied by AFWall+ are misinterpreted by iptables to block all access? Any help investigating this avenue in particular would be really helpful.
Cheers,
AA.
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maybe is a problem with ROM, flash different rom.
Paget96 said:
maybe is a problem with ROM, flash different rom.
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AFAIK the dev has had no problems, and the two different installs I've had have been different builds.
Also I've no idea where to start to find a new ROM; Linux has the fantastic DistroWatch, but no such resource exists for ROMs (AFAIK).
Finally...I'm quite fussy . CM is just the right balance of features - if you want 'em - and stock, vanilla (or even barebones) if you don't. I had a HOX+ in the past, and so many of the ROMs for that were all about eyecandy and glitter - fat I'd rather trim.
ArminasAnarchy said:
AFAIK the dev has had no problems, and the two different installs I've had have been different builds.
Also I've no idea where to start to find a new ROM; Linux has the fantastic DistroWatch, but no such resource exists for ROMs (AFAIK).
Finally...I'm quite fussy . CM is just the right balance of features - if you want 'em - and stock, vanilla (or even barebones) if you don't. I had a HOX+ in the past, and so many of the ROMs for that were all about eyecandy and glitter - fat I'd rather trim.
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you try to wipe cache?
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you try to wipe cache?
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When I installed the ROM, yep. My method is to wipe everything then sideload (IMO it seems cleaner ).
Otherwise, no, and don't see why it would make a difference, and would have no idea how to do it anyway...through the recovery, or is there a way to do it when booted?
No offence, but I get the feeling this is the blind leading the blind xD.
ArminasAnarchy said:
When I installed the ROM, yep. My method is to wipe everything then sideload (IMO it seems cleaner ).
Otherwise, no, and don't see why it would make a difference, and would have no idea how to do it anyway...through the recovery, or is there a way to do it when booted?
No offence, but I get the feeling this is the blind leading the blind xD.
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I dont know, try to flash different rom and see if it will happen again or not. If not, problem is in that rom you already have.
Paget96 said:
I dont know, try to flash different rom and see if it will happen again or not. If not, problem is in that rom you already have.
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Any suggestions on where to find one? Or of a particular ROM?
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[ROM] [4.4.4] [OFFICIAL] ParanoidAndroid 4.4 [FINAL/STABLE]
you can try this
[ROM][4.4.2] SlimKat 2.6 RC2 | Unofficial
bugs:
Problems with GPS.
- Sometimes recovery takes a LONG time to install the ROM.
[ROM] Infusion Beta III [Google Play Edition Based] [27th Jan 2014]
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all ROMs
http://alchemistar.blogspot.com/2014/02/moto-g.html
Okay so ive been battling this for sometime. I'm starting to get a little more knowledgeable but still don't know what to do with all this.I experienced this first back in 2015 then I completely made a switch. Well now I'm back to same issues.
The problems I'm experiencing is it's happening on all the devices I have. The phone I'm on now bought brand new from metropcs. and not even a day 30minutes later I get an update for the phone. I new not to install or download. But it inventively did. Now it's sitting on my storage wanting me to move files to root.
LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR. NON OF MY DEVICES ARE ROOTED.
to make this short. My devices seem to have a Bluetooth admin. And connects to any Bluetooth device without me knowing.
So far from what I see chromium and stage fright is a big part of what I'm seeing.
I'm attaching some pictures to give more detail look. And it's not just my Android devices it's my Xbox one S as well.
looking to completely remove. I'm not trying to waste money on switching networks or completly going Mia.
Fast responses please.
Sincerly,
-Desperate androidian
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Okay so ive been battling this for sometime. I'm starting to get a little more knowledgeable but still don't know what to do with all this.I experienced this first back in 2015 then I completely made a switch. Well now I'm back to same issues.
The problems I'm experiencing is it's happening on all the devices I have. The phone I'm on now bought brand new from metropcs. and not even a day 30minutes later I get an update for the phone. I new not to install or download. But it inventively did. Now it's sitting on my storage wanting me to move files to root.
LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR. NON OF MY DEVICES ARE ROOTED.
to make this short. My devices seem to have a Bluetooth admin. And connects to any Bluetooth device without me knowing.
So far from what I see chromium and stage fright is a big part of what I'm seeing.
I'm attaching some pictures to give more detail look. And it's not just my Android devices it's my Xbox one S as well.
looking to completely remove. I'm not trying to waste money on switching networks or completly going Mia.
Fast responses please.
Sincerly,
-Desperate androidian
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The Android community isn't what it used to be that's for sure. No help, no suggestions. Just nothing.
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Okay so ive been battling this for sometime. I'm starting to get a little more knowledgeable but still don't know what to do with all this.I experienced this first back in 2015 then I completely made a switch. Well now I'm back to same issues.
The problems I'm experiencing is it's happening on all the devices I have. The phone I'm on now bought brand new from metropcs. and not even a day 30minutes later I get an update for the phone. I new not to install or download. But it inventively did. Now it's sitting on my storage wanting me to move files to root.
LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR. NON OF MY DEVICES ARE ROOTED.
to make this short. My devices seem to have a Bluetooth admin. And connects to any Bluetooth device without me knowing.
So far from what I see chromium and stage fright is a big part of what I'm seeing.
I'm attaching some pictures to give more detail look. And it's not just my Android devices it's my Xbox one S as well.
looking to completely remove. I'm not trying to waste money on switching networks or completly going Mia.
Fast responses please.
Sincerly,
-Desperate androidian
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I'm no expert but I'm struggling to see your exact issue you seem to think you have, is it just t your Bluetooth is switching on. All those licences, security certs, file locations etc look normal to me (without checking numbers or being able to compare to same phone os etc) though I have disabled many of those certs eg the Turkish ones etc & my Bluetooth files are different but I can find ref hill those locations online eg Xieomi phones
You appear to have a ZTE, please give model number and current OS & rev (must be stock I suppose). ZTE was found with a backdoor in older phones, sending data to China, so it's possible, & some Chinese phones also update their apps without notification. But as you say your whole network appears compromised so the source may be something else, like your router/modem, or Bluetooth as you think (though some apps require Bluetooth admin permission legitimately, you can disable it as an Admin). Tell us what behaviors you are seeing that you believe are malicious. New phone update soon after you turn on is quite common, as I'm sure you know.
When I had a quick look at your log it did have a lot of activity going to the US DOD, would you expect this, as well as the usual google & Facebook connections. Though (perhaps) strangely also to a server from a small marketing company here in Australia, but I'm no expert even if I looked at your log line by line I wouldn't understand it all.
Ref his other post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/security-global-family-credientals-t3665851
Things to try. Run a reputable antivirus. Boot into safe mode, so only system apps run, is it still happening? Can you turn off anything that is listed as a device admin? Try run a root checker app. Even if it all comes back negative you may still have a problem as a port may already have been opened and malicious app self deleted or something. Use an app like Fing to see if any device you don't recognise are connected to your network.
You may be able to block some activity if it's not going through root with a firewall eg NetGuard no root firewall, start with everything blocked.
Above are just some general hints, without knowing specifics I can only suggest you backup any stuff you want to keep then factory reset everything & change ALL passwords to strong ones (no good just adding a number on the end of your old ones!), better still reflash all firmware (updates if available) to overwrite everything. This incl your internet access points eg router, and only reconnect to the net/networks after you have done them all (one at a time preferably then you may be able to identify source of problems)
That turned out a lot longer than I intended!
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I'm no expert but I'm struggling to see your exact issue you seem to think you have, is it just t your Bluetooth is switching on. All those licences, security certs, file locations etc look normal to me (without checking numbers or being able to compare to same phone os etc) though I have disabled many of those certs eg the Turkish ones etc & my Bluetooth files are different but I can find ref hill those locations online eg Xieomi phones
You appear to have a ZTE, please give model number and current OS & rev (must be stock I suppose). ZTE was found with a backdoor in older phones, sending data to China, so it's possible, & some Chinese phones also update their apps without notification. But as you say your whole network appears compromised so the source may be something else, like your router/modem, or Bluetooth as you think (though some apps require Bluetooth admin permission legitimately, you can disable it as an Admin). Tell us what behaviors you are seeing that you believe are malicious. New phone update soon after you turn on is quite common, as I'm sure you know.
When I had a quick look at your log it did have a lot of activity going to the US DOD, would you expect this, as well as the usual google & Facebook connections. Though (perhaps) strangely also to a server from a small marketing company here in Australia, but I'm no expert even if I looked at your log line by line I wouldn't understand it all.
Things to try. Run a reputable antivirus. Boot into safe mode, so only system apps run, is it still happening? Can you turn off anything that is listed as a device admin? Try run a root checker app. Even if it all comes back negative you may still have a problem as a port may already have been opened and malicious app self deleted or something. Use an app like Fing to see if any device you don't recognise are connected to your network.
You may be able to block some activity if it's not going through root with a firewall eg NetGuard no root firewall, start with everything blocked.
Above are just some general hints, without knowing specifics I can only suggest you backup any stuff you want to keep then factory reset everything & change ALL passwords to strong ones (no good just adding a number on the end of your old ones!), better still reflash all firmware (updates if available) to overwrite everything. This incl your internet access points eg router, and only reconnect to the net/networks after you have done them all (one at a time preferably then you may be able to identify source of problems)
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Thank-you. Now for a better visual. There's to many apps.
And if u can give me links to apps that will help.
And on my oneplus one the Bluetooth thing says :1002 sharing or midi or something.
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Thank-you. Now for a better visual. There's to many apps.
And if u can give me links to apps that will help.
And on my oneplus one the Bluetooth thing says :1002 sharing or midi or something.
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And code.auroa? What is this
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Thank-you. Now for a better visual. There's to many apps.
And if u can give me links to apps that will help.
And on my oneplus one the Bluetooth thing says :1002 sharing or midi or something.
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I don't have that phone so can't really tell what is a suspect app or not, especially just from screen shots.
Here use this app to run on demand scans against the virustotal database (this is not an "antivirus app" like Avast so offers no protection, it only scans apps on demand, so you should run a good antivirus also)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funnycat.virustotal
it should flag any suspect apps and you can submit any unknown ones you are worried about.
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And code.auroa? What is this
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edit: not Firefox then.
org.codeaurora.bluetooth is a legit part of Bluetooth .... Well unless it's flagged by virustotal then it probably is a malicious app just given a common name to try and hide
IronRoo said:
I don't have that phone so can't really tell what is a suspect app or not, especially just from screen shots.
Here use this app to run on demand scans against the virustotal database (this is not an "antivirus app" like Avast so offers no protection)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funnycat.virustotal
it should flag any suspect apps and you can submit any unknown ones you are worried about.
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Okay but what is provisioning? Code auroa smartcard services googleplay for instance apps and
And IV never encrypted this phone.
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Okay but what is provisioning? Code auroa smartcard services googleplay for instance apps and
And IV never encrypted this phone.
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And alot of the overlay apps n simtoolkit are all questionmarked
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And alot of the overlay apps n simtoolkit are all questionmarked
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ser my edit above re aurora
sometimes virustotal will have 2 or 3 antiivirus companies flag a file, these are probably false positives so probably nothing to worry about (though could just be a new submission, other companies should soon update if real malicious code, check back in a day or two). If lots of companies flag an apk then you haven a problem.
It looks like you have a problem whit overlays (unless it's an app your phone company installs for that function, not sure what you mean). You should install a proper antivirus app like Avast, malwarebytes etc as a first step, hopefully it can remove malicious apk
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And IV never encrypted this phone.
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Doesn't matter, encrypting phone only protects unauthorised access to your data. Once it is unlocked anyone can view your stuff. And once a malicious app is on your system it can shall read all your data even if you had encrypted it as it's unencrypted when you use it
IronRoo said:
ser my edit above re aurora
sometimes virustotal will have 2 or 3 antiivirus companies flag a file, these are probably false positives so probably nothing to worry about (though could just be a new submission, other companies should soon update if real malicious code, check back in a day or two). If lots of companies flag an apk then you haven a problem.
It looks like you have a problem whit overlays (unless it's an app your phone company installs for that function). You should install a proper antivirus app like Avast, malwarebytes etc as a first step, hopefully it can remove malicious apk
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Doesn't matter, encrypting phone only protects unauthorised access to your data. Once it is unlocked anyone can view your stuff. And once a malicious app is on your system it can shall read all your data even if you had encrypted it as it's unencrypted when you use it
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Okay so now I'm trying to post screenshots of when I'm connected to wifi and it's not letting me
Pairwise cyphers and
Group cyphers
Sim_num
?
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
And alot of the overlay apps n simtoolkit are all questionmarked
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Tap those with question marks to submit to virustotal for analysis
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Tap those with question marks to submit to virustotal for analysis
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/sys/fs/selinux/class/appletalk_socket/perms
Not suspious?
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
/sys/fs/selinux/class/appletalk_socket/perms
Not suspious?
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Now I'm not stupid, this is facts. I just need defined and solution!!!
No these are normal library files. Stagefright "the malicious exploits" were called this as it was the stagefright framework it exploited. Everyone has these files, here are mine below.
You need to use tools like antivirus to identify bad files but even that is no guarantee as there is the possibility the original malicious file could have self deleted and, for example, just left open ports which would not be found as a "virus" but still allow remote access to your device.
If you cannot identify the actual exploit on your phone then the best solution is probably to just reflash the stock rom as this will wipe & overwrite everything. But if a malicious file is left on your SD card or another networked device you could soon be infected/compromised again. That is why I said before if you can't identify the source of your infection you really need to factory reset or reinstall all OS on all devices affected including your home router etc (or maybe it's your work or public network) and change all passwords.
IronRoo said:
No these are normal library files. Stagefright "the malicious exploits" were called this as it was the stagefright framework it exploited. Everyone has these files, here are mine below.
You need to use tools like antivirus to identify bad files but even that is no guarantee as there is the possibility the original malicious file could have self deleted and, for example, just left open ports which would not be found as a "virus" but still allow remote access to your device.
If you cannot identify the actual exploit on your phone then the best solution is probably to just reflash the stock rom as this will wipe & overwrite everything. But if a malicious file is left on your SD card or another networked device you could soon be infected/compromised again. That is why I said before if you can't identify the source of your infection you really need to factory reset or reinstall all OS on all devices affected including your home router etc (or maybe it's your work or public network) and change all passwords.
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I'm on a video bridge network I got the direct TV setup with 2 wireless setups. Both secure from what I know.
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Pairwise cyphers and
Group cyphers
Sim_num
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These are for encryption of your connection, not your phone
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
I'm on a video bridge network I got the direct TV setup with 2 wireless setups. Both secure from what I know.
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I'm no coding/security guru, but I have worked on telecoms, military electronics, etc but my coding & network security knowledge is limited.
I would run this app Fing to check your local network, are there any unknown devices connected?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.overlook.android.fing
note: this only finds currently connected devices, so you'd want to do this several times & especially when you see suspect behavior.
Also check for open ports, easiest way is probably this site, it will scan the first 1000 ports or so (select all)
https://www.grc.com/
go to shields up
but you really need to scan ALL possible ports with a tool like Zenmap (for PC) if you think you are compromised
https://nmap.org/zenmap/
However it's not clear to me if you ever installed a proper antivirus and whether it found and deleted anything? Virustotal seemed to find some suspect apks, I had a quick look at Trendmicro database but it didn't list details of the one it found in your screenshot, but the fact some of those antivirus companies called the suspect apk names with "joke" in it may suggest it's just a joke app your mate has installed, though probably not a joke app if your other devices are really also compromised, from memory there is also real malware with that name which may be able to infect other devices. Running a proper antivirus should easily find and clean any "joke" app on your phone & hopefully any real malware. If you've done this and still seeing indications you are compromised then do what I suggested above. (Also repeat malware checks on other devices and removable storage media)
You should also log into your router as admin and check settings, are you using a secure router password? Is firmware up to date. Is firewall set up correctly? Also close any open ports that you don't use. Turn off remote admin, if router has it. Etc etc what do your router logs show (turn on more detailed logging if necessary) Factory reset or reinstall firmware if you think changes have been made to your router by someone else.
Hi I am having same issues. Exact same behaviors regardless of new phones new carrier and all accounts being unconnected in name. Google etc. This is extreme. Its via bluetooth I agree something with esims or virtual sims for use of wifi access and or signal piracy for media. The DOD files are also something I am familier with seeing. Code Aurora was also a govt project way back. Its Interesting thst I have Verizon files loading on at & t phones and sprint loading on Verizon. Whatever this is has managed to infiltrate my computers as well. Its relentless. Its impressive and sophisticated. Please please help.
Spidder77 said:
Hi I am having same issues. Exact same behaviors regardless of new phones new carrier and all accounts being unconnected in name. Google etc. This is extreme. Its via bluetooth I agree something with esims or virtual sims for use of wifi access and or signal piracy for media. The DOD files are also something I am familier with seeing. Code Aurora was also a govt project way back. Its Interesting thst I have Verizon files loading on at & t phones and sprint loading on Verizon. Whatever this is has managed to infiltrate my computers as well. Its relentless. Its impressive and sophisticated. Please please help.
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I'm having the same issmy ues. Did anyone ever resolve or figure out what is happening? I think I'm under investigation by the DOD and they own my devices. My uploads/downloads are blocked, internet searches filtered, pics/screenshots of evidence deleted off my phone, etc.
Hi. I was carefully in ADB cutting bloatware this morning and while it looked fine, after restarting I'm getting a "still loading android" message on home screen. I can still access settings, and get to the play store and open apps that way, so it's no more than an inconvenience but...I'd like to have my full functionality back since clearly there's one thing I nuked that was a system needed file but didn't look like one.
I'm not comfortable rooting and maybe getting stuck with an $800 brick, so please keep suggestions limited to ADB modifications, yes I know they will still be in system partition but they will save on ram and battery usage at least. I'm planning to factory wipe to get my necessary files back, then would like a step by step what to kill from there.
I'm somewhat knowledgeable, know of Fdroid and sideloading APKs, and I know you don't need Google Play Services with that kind of knowledge.
Thanks in advance for your help!!
Instead of adb uninstalling you should have tried a package disabler... so if u disable something wrong you can still enable it. I m using package disabler pro and i have to say that my s8+ has reached somehow the perfection i needed. Very good battery life, very good performance.
Gogolakis said:
Instead of adb uninstalling you should have tried a package disabler... so if u disable something wrong you can still enable it. I m using package disabler pro and i have to say that my s8+ has reached somehow the perfection i needed. Very good battery life, very good performance.
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Isn't this a paid service? And requires root? I can keep this in mind if I need to wipe anyway at least, if it doesn't require root.
There's no way to find out which one caused the issue then, is there?
Don't know if this thread may be of some use to you.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/s8-debloat-bloatware-thread-t3669009/page4
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Don't know if this thread may be of some use to you.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/s8-debloat-bloatware-thread-t3669009/page4
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Yes, thank you, that is the one I saw that encouraged me to undertake this process.
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Yes, thank you, that is the one I saw that encouraged me to undertake this process.
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I don't think there is a definitive debloat list as everyone uses there phone for different reasons.
Might be a case of trial and error. As for debloat apps there are a few on playstore and could be useful as a reference on what they might recommend to remove.
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I don't think there is a definitive debloat list as everyone uses there phone for different reasons.
Might be a case of trial and error. As for debloat apps there are a few on playstore and could be useful as a reference on what they might recommend to remove.
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My definition being "anything that is not a requirement to keep the system running normally and optimally." Ideally any extraneous apps would be FOSS if possible.
While browsing another thread here, I fixed my current issue. Apparently I deleted my launcher by mistake and when I installed an Oreo launcher from play store, the error on my home screen went away. Hooray for unexpected fixes.
And lol at me almost factory wiping because of this now (I'll laugh at this in a year I'm sure.)
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Isn't this a paid service? And requires root? I can keep this in mind if I need to wipe anyway at least, if it doesn't require root.
There's no way to find out which one caused the issue then, is there?
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Its like 3 dolars or something in google play. It doesn.t require root acces
All in all without root I freed up to 2k MB of ram and got the HD to 18/64 GB. I'm pretty proud of myself.
Which is better and what are the pros/cons?
oroboros74 said:
Which is better and what are the pros/cons?
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Off
Knfio said:
Off
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what are the pros/cons?
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what are the pros/cons?
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Just turned it off yesterday. What I have noticed with it off is that some apps that had to reload in memory because of MIUI's aggressive ram management now remain open. Battery seems to have increased a great deal. I'll screen shot what I end up with if you want after I leave work. I know its early but I'm at:
4.69% active drain
.67 % Standby
2h21m screen on
10 hrs Standby
77% battery
OFF is recommended if you are using China ROM.
MIUI optimization would block installation of "specific apps" due to you-know-what reasons.
I'm using xiaomi.eu, and when I turned it off it seemed to me the battery life got worse.
The xaomi.eu devs are very vocal about not wanting users to turn it off, because "they don't understand what it does." They won't explain what it actually does though, which makes me suspect they don't know themselves .
Interestingly, I was able to install vanced youtube using magisk (riru+riru edxposed yahfa modules) and edxposed (core patch-disable apk signature verification), without turning MIUI optimizations off. Which some people reported wasn't possible.
At first I tried using the unmentionable yellow app, but that caused a bootloop.
Curunir said:
I'm using xiaomi.eu, and when I turned it off it seemed to me the battery life got worse.
The xaomi.eu devs are very vocal about not wanting users to turn it off, because "they don't understand what it does." They won't explain what it actually does though, which makes me suspect they don't know themselves .
Interestingly, I was able to install vanced youtube using magisk (riru+riru edxposed yahfa modules) and edxposed (core patch-disable apk signature verification), without turning MIUI optimizations off. Which some people reported wasn't possible.
At first I tried using the unmentionable yellow app, but that caused a bootloop.
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Are you on the EU beta? I can't find the option to turn off
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Are you on the EU beta? I can't find the option to turn off
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I'm on stable 12.0.8. actually.
It's true that the option to disable them is no longer visible in developer options. But you can do it by entering "setprop persist.sys.miui_optimization false" in shell, either on the phone directly or through adb shell. I do think you need root.
That disables it and shows the option in developer options again, in disabled state. But if you enable them again through developer options, the setting becomes hidden again and you need to perform the shell command again.
I keep it on for one simple reason:
In the latest MIUI12, if you turn off optimization you lose the new floating window feature, it just won't work at all. There might be other cool features that won't work but that's the only one I really use.
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Most people won't be able to install apps such as Vanced with optimization on though, but it's only the installation process. So if you want to install such app but also have the floating window feature, well just turn it off, install your app and turn it back on.
i think that we should not turn it off it is part of MIUI.
Eidenz said:
I keep it on for one simple reason:
In the latest MIUI12, if you turn off optimization you lose the new floating window feature, it just won't work at all. There might be other cool features that won't work but that's the only one I really use.
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Is that right? Oh, that's a super cool and useful feature to lose!
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I'm using xiaomi.eu, and when I turned it off it seemed to me the battery life got worse.
The xaomi.eu devs are very vocal about not wanting users to turn it off, because "they don't understand what it does." They won't explain what it actually does though, which makes me suspect they don't know themselves .
Interestingly, I was able to install vanced youtube using magisk (riru+riru edxposed yahfa modules) and edxposed (core patch-disable apk signature verification), without turning MIUI optimizations off. Which some people reported wasn't possible.
At first I tried using the unmentionable yellow app, but that caused a bootloop.
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The vanced install problem is not with the magisk version but with the apk version an it's installer (and btw most updated because magisk module is very outdated)
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The vanced install problem is not with the magisk version but with the apk version an it's installer (and btw most updated because magisk module is very outdated)
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Not sure what you mean. AFAIK you need to disable apk signature verification to be able to install a modded (system) app which Google would never allow.
You should download the latest (canary) version of the framework through Edxposed manager, but install it through Magisk manager.
Also, in my setup sometimes it would say Edxposed framework was installed but not active, but it would still function. So I think there's a bug in the detection.
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I keep it on for one simple reason:
In the latest MIUI12, if you turn off optimization you lose the new floating window feature, it just won't work at all. There might be other cool features that won't work but that's the only one I really use.
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Most people won't be able to install apps such as Vanced with optimization on though, but it's only the installation process. So if you want to install such app but also have the floating window feature, well just turn it off, install your app and turn it back on.
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So if I installed Vanced already via the apk, can I turn MIUI optimization back on without losing Vanced?
My battery is draining much faster after I turned it off and the battery bar doesn't work( the colorful one, the regular battery indicator is fine)
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So if I installed Vanced already via the apk, can I turn MIUI optimization back on without losing Vanced?
My battery is draining much faster after I turned it off and the battery bar doesn't work( the colorful one, the regular battery indicator is fine)
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As I said before, yes.
MIUI optimization only prevents installation. Once Vanced (or any other app) is installed, turning it back on doesn't affect them. They work perfectly fine with optimization ON.
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As I said before, yes.
MIUI optimization only prevents installation. Once Vanced (or any other app) is installed, turning it back on doesn't affect them. They work perfectly fine with optimization ON.
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Miui optimization being on didn't stop me from installing any third party apps including Vanced and several others from backup apks from my OnePlus 7 pro all before root. How did you come to that conclusion?
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Miui optimization being on didn't stop me from installing any third party apps including Vanced and several others from backup apks from my OnePlus 7 pro. How did you come to that conclusion?
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Hm idk, probably because I own a poco f2 pro and had to disable optimization in order to install vanced but could turn it back on afterwards? (Like a lot of people owning a Xiaomi with miui 11+)
Do you have any more of these odd questions?
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Hm idk, probably because I own a poco f2 pro and had to disable optimization in order to install vanced but could turn it back on afterwards? (Like a lot of people owning a Xiaomi with miui 11+)
Do you have any more of these odd questions?
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Mr. sarcasm my question, if you even fully read it, was sparked by my own personal experience with this device that I've owned for last than a week. Responding to a question with a question just shows your too simple minded to realize that I wasnt attacking you at all. As a senior member here I do feel it is somewhat of a responsibility to make sure correct information is given. There are three ways to install Vanced if I recall correctly. Apk version worked for me optimization on on global and again on eu. You see how easy that was to give useful information or did that computer with hair growing out of it on your shoulders process that as odd too?
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Mr. sarcasm my question, if you even fully read it, was sparked by my own personal experience with this device that I've owned for last than a week. Responding to a question with a question just shows your to dumb to realize that I wasnt attaching you at all. As a senior member here I do feel it is somewhat of a responsibility to make sure correct information is given. The are three ways to install Vanced if I recall correctly. Apk version worked for me optimization on on global and again on eu. You see how easy that was to give useful information or did that computer with hair growing out of it on your shoulders process that as odd too.
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The senior member calling me dumb with spelling mistakes isn't helping in a better way.
I also mentioned I was talking about the poco f2 pro, which is the current forum for this question.
So I answered people who asked a question on this phone's forum.
Your experience with a different phone might differ.
Also, the latest way of installing vanced now is using their manager, which is the recommended way that most new users will be using.
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Thank you for editing your previous message though.
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The senior member calling me dumb with spelling mistakes isn't helping in a better way.
I also mentioned I was talking about the poco f2 pro, which is the current forum for this question.
So I answered people who asked a question on this phone's forum.
Your experience with a different phone might differ.
Also, the latest way of installing vanced now is using their manager, which is the recommended way that most new users will be using.
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Thank you for editing your previous message though.
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I had to edit it because what I said was out of character. I thought it was understood that we were talking about the same device. You win Bro, I bow out.