Which is better and what are the pros/cons?
oroboros74 said:
Which is better and what are the pros/cons?
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Off
Knfio said:
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what are the pros/cons?
oroboros74 said:
what are the pros/cons?
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Just turned it off yesterday. What I have noticed with it off is that some apps that had to reload in memory because of MIUI's aggressive ram management now remain open. Battery seems to have increased a great deal. I'll screen shot what I end up with if you want after I leave work. I know its early but I'm at:
4.69% active drain
.67 % Standby
2h21m screen on
10 hrs Standby
77% battery
OFF is recommended if you are using China ROM.
MIUI optimization would block installation of "specific apps" due to you-know-what reasons.
I'm using xiaomi.eu, and when I turned it off it seemed to me the battery life got worse.
The xaomi.eu devs are very vocal about not wanting users to turn it off, because "they don't understand what it does." They won't explain what it actually does though, which makes me suspect they don't know themselves .
Interestingly, I was able to install vanced youtube using magisk (riru+riru edxposed yahfa modules) and edxposed (core patch-disable apk signature verification), without turning MIUI optimizations off. Which some people reported wasn't possible.
At first I tried using the unmentionable yellow app, but that caused a bootloop.
Curunir said:
I'm using xiaomi.eu, and when I turned it off it seemed to me the battery life got worse.
The xaomi.eu devs are very vocal about not wanting users to turn it off, because "they don't understand what it does." They won't explain what it actually does though, which makes me suspect they don't know themselves .
Interestingly, I was able to install vanced youtube using magisk (riru+riru edxposed yahfa modules) and edxposed (core patch-disable apk signature verification), without turning MIUI optimizations off. Which some people reported wasn't possible.
At first I tried using the unmentionable yellow app, but that caused a bootloop.
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Are you on the EU beta? I can't find the option to turn off
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Are you on the EU beta? I can't find the option to turn off
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I'm on stable 12.0.8. actually.
It's true that the option to disable them is no longer visible in developer options. But you can do it by entering "setprop persist.sys.miui_optimization false" in shell, either on the phone directly or through adb shell. I do think you need root.
That disables it and shows the option in developer options again, in disabled state. But if you enable them again through developer options, the setting becomes hidden again and you need to perform the shell command again.
I keep it on for one simple reason:
In the latest MIUI12, if you turn off optimization you lose the new floating window feature, it just won't work at all. There might be other cool features that won't work but that's the only one I really use.
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Most people won't be able to install apps such as Vanced with optimization on though, but it's only the installation process. So if you want to install such app but also have the floating window feature, well just turn it off, install your app and turn it back on.
i think that we should not turn it off it is part of MIUI.
Eidenz said:
I keep it on for one simple reason:
In the latest MIUI12, if you turn off optimization you lose the new floating window feature, it just won't work at all. There might be other cool features that won't work but that's the only one I really use.
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Is that right? Oh, that's a super cool and useful feature to lose!
Curunir said:
I'm using xiaomi.eu, and when I turned it off it seemed to me the battery life got worse.
The xaomi.eu devs are very vocal about not wanting users to turn it off, because "they don't understand what it does." They won't explain what it actually does though, which makes me suspect they don't know themselves .
Interestingly, I was able to install vanced youtube using magisk (riru+riru edxposed yahfa modules) and edxposed (core patch-disable apk signature verification), without turning MIUI optimizations off. Which some people reported wasn't possible.
At first I tried using the unmentionable yellow app, but that caused a bootloop.
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The vanced install problem is not with the magisk version but with the apk version an it's installer (and btw most updated because magisk module is very outdated)
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The vanced install problem is not with the magisk version but with the apk version an it's installer (and btw most updated because magisk module is very outdated)
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Not sure what you mean. AFAIK you need to disable apk signature verification to be able to install a modded (system) app which Google would never allow.
You should download the latest (canary) version of the framework through Edxposed manager, but install it through Magisk manager.
Also, in my setup sometimes it would say Edxposed framework was installed but not active, but it would still function. So I think there's a bug in the detection.
Eidenz said:
I keep it on for one simple reason:
In the latest MIUI12, if you turn off optimization you lose the new floating window feature, it just won't work at all. There might be other cool features that won't work but that's the only one I really use.
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Most people won't be able to install apps such as Vanced with optimization on though, but it's only the installation process. So if you want to install such app but also have the floating window feature, well just turn it off, install your app and turn it back on.
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So if I installed Vanced already via the apk, can I turn MIUI optimization back on without losing Vanced?
My battery is draining much faster after I turned it off and the battery bar doesn't work( the colorful one, the regular battery indicator is fine)
Ottoman98 said:
So if I installed Vanced already via the apk, can I turn MIUI optimization back on without losing Vanced?
My battery is draining much faster after I turned it off and the battery bar doesn't work( the colorful one, the regular battery indicator is fine)
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As I said before, yes.
MIUI optimization only prevents installation. Once Vanced (or any other app) is installed, turning it back on doesn't affect them. They work perfectly fine with optimization ON.
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As I said before, yes.
MIUI optimization only prevents installation. Once Vanced (or any other app) is installed, turning it back on doesn't affect them. They work perfectly fine with optimization ON.
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Miui optimization being on didn't stop me from installing any third party apps including Vanced and several others from backup apks from my OnePlus 7 pro all before root. How did you come to that conclusion?
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Miui optimization being on didn't stop me from installing any third party apps including Vanced and several others from backup apks from my OnePlus 7 pro. How did you come to that conclusion?
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Hm idk, probably because I own a poco f2 pro and had to disable optimization in order to install vanced but could turn it back on afterwards? (Like a lot of people owning a Xiaomi with miui 11+)
Do you have any more of these odd questions?
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Hm idk, probably because I own a poco f2 pro and had to disable optimization in order to install vanced but could turn it back on afterwards? (Like a lot of people owning a Xiaomi with miui 11+)
Do you have any more of these odd questions?
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Mr. sarcasm my question, if you even fully read it, was sparked by my own personal experience with this device that I've owned for last than a week. Responding to a question with a question just shows your too simple minded to realize that I wasnt attacking you at all. As a senior member here I do feel it is somewhat of a responsibility to make sure correct information is given. There are three ways to install Vanced if I recall correctly. Apk version worked for me optimization on on global and again on eu. You see how easy that was to give useful information or did that computer with hair growing out of it on your shoulders process that as odd too?
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Mr. sarcasm my question, if you even fully read it, was sparked by my own personal experience with this device that I've owned for last than a week. Responding to a question with a question just shows your to dumb to realize that I wasnt attaching you at all. As a senior member here I do feel it is somewhat of a responsibility to make sure correct information is given. The are three ways to install Vanced if I recall correctly. Apk version worked for me optimization on on global and again on eu. You see how easy that was to give useful information or did that computer with hair growing out of it on your shoulders process that as odd too.
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The senior member calling me dumb with spelling mistakes isn't helping in a better way.
I also mentioned I was talking about the poco f2 pro, which is the current forum for this question.
So I answered people who asked a question on this phone's forum.
Your experience with a different phone might differ.
Also, the latest way of installing vanced now is using their manager, which is the recommended way that most new users will be using.
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Thank you for editing your previous message though.
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The senior member calling me dumb with spelling mistakes isn't helping in a better way.
I also mentioned I was talking about the poco f2 pro, which is the current forum for this question.
So I answered people who asked a question on this phone's forum.
Your experience with a different phone might differ.
Also, the latest way of installing vanced now is using their manager, which is the recommended way that most new users will be using.
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I had to edit it because what I said was out of character. I thought it was understood that we were talking about the same device. You win Bro, I bow out.
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I got the Mate 20 X from Italy, delivered two weeks after order on November 12 for € 829, VAT and 2-years warranty included. It is a nice silver device 6/128 (don’t need more memory). My first hands-on impression? I was shocked.
I had pure Chinese phones before (Huawei and Lenovo) and I know how to deal with them. That wasn’t what upset me. And it wasn’t EMUI either, I like some of its functionality and I know how to customize it.
But my previous phone was Mate 10 pro (international, not Chinese), which really works well and comparison with a newcomer is what really shocked me. The EVR_AL00 came slow and clumsy with those big fat letters and ugly ios-like icons on the screen. I tried to improve the look with increasing the smallest width in the developer options, but original resolution came back with every reset.
So what I did first, is factory reset (I usually perform it on every new phone). I lost Google Play but I didn’t care, I intended to install and adjust Google apps anyway.
And then I started to customize the phone. Basically, it means “dechinezed” and “deiosinezed” it and make it usable for my purposes as the daily driver. Eventually, I succeeded and like before I don’t regret that I bought the Chinese phone as I never regretted before. I believe that my customization demands would request almost the same amount of work and effort with the “international” version.
And with “dechinezed” I don’t mean to be impolite, actually, I like some of the features of China phones, some of them after years comes to western phones as well (night sight, close all apps etc). I just prefer the more Android look of the phone (even more than currently, Google delivers).
The actual status of my phone is as follows:
In the beginning, when I started phone manager, the performance never exceeded 69%. It seems that later it adapted and healed itself (maybe with help of AI) and now performance is usually over 90, close to 100% and the phone suddenly becomes snappy and smooth, slightly better than Mate 10 pro. As expected, the battery life is due to its capacity and with my way of use it could easily survive two days. I don’t have exact data on SOT and other parameters of the battery performance yet. By adjusting the text and display size (both too small) under settings/display the phone gets a nicer look and more usable size of applications.
I had decided to keep EMUI launcher before I learned that the phone has a hard time with other launchers. I bought Nova Prime once, I consider it a great launcher, maybe the best, but even on my previous phone I used EMUI. The reason is in its features that I don’t want to sacrifice: dedicated Accuweather, swype gestures (now with 9), dark mode. I was never a fan of ios-like white themes, I always considered that Android’s color is black. Besides, what even Google admits now (and started to return black mode into its apps accordingly), the white mode consumes a lot more energy (especially with AMOLED). What is yet to admit is that it burns your eyes.
So, what I have now, is a fully customized EVR_AL00 that perfectly suits my needs. That means that it looks like Android, works like Android and behaves like Android. I replaced most Chinese apps with Google’s ones, installed additional that I use and tune the system. With tuning the system I mean screen adjustment and customization. Under Settings/Display/text and display size, I changed both values to small and thus converted ugly appearance of the display into something that suits size and purpose of the phone. I replaced IOS icons with the Android ones. Adjusted notifications and permissions for each application.
First I was thinking about keeping some Chinese apps that I considered useful, like Sky Mobile and a few others. But trying them I found out that all of them are more or less connected either with Chinese environment or payment system and therefore eventually I removed them all. After I had to perform the factory reset I was only got more careful with apps that I disabled. And according to my orientation, I kept Email, at least until Google implements dark color in Gmail. And kept useful utilities: (Manager, Gallery, Remote…).
Otherwise, I use Google Phone (the amazing last beta from: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-google-phone-v14-0-175904292-bubble-t3708218, thank you Martin), Messages, Translate (removed nonfunctional MS Translate), Auto, Duo, Voice, Photos, Trips, Pay, Assistant, Lens, Google, Chrome, and of course all Google system apps. I also use third-party apps like VLC, Xiaomi calculator and YouTube vanced. Pretty much everything works as expected, including notifications to the extent that suits my way of use. After I erased Hivoice, Assistant works together with the hot word, if the screen is turned on (never wished to use it from turned off screen). The red mic on notification bar of the attached picture shows that assistant is active.
All banks application work. Google Play is not working at the moment but I expect that it will eventually. Currently, failure is the result of poor synchronization between Chinese EMUI and Google Android. No point to call the bank, it is the last one to solve the problem. The problem will be solved with the new EMUI or Play Services, because there is no material obstacle for G Play (SafetyNet passed and bank card is recognized and could be used online). I have another identical payment system installed (Inteso SP) and it works flawlessly.
CUSTOMIZATION
In order to adapt the phone to my needs, I had to deal with existing Chinese application first. I had to either: 1) remove them, 2) hide them, or 3) disable (erase) them.
Removing apps
Removing apps was easy. Just uninstall Chinese in Settings/Apps. As I said, I did it thoroughly and indiscriminately.
Hiding apps
My overall objective is to have only one home screen page. I’m fed up with slippery pages interfering with gestures. And besides, I decided to use gestures (swype) as system navigation and therefore swyping between homepages could be annoying even more.
In order to have only one home page, I have to use folders and hide auxiliary functional apps (like download, OTA, backup, clock..etc).
Surprisingly I found that Tweaker for Huawei works pretty well with EMUI9, although it is an old application: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teammt.gmanrainy.emuitweaker&hl=en. One of its functions is triggering the abandoned EMUI gesture that enables hiding any application and thus removing it from the home screen without affecting its functionality.
Disabling (erasing) apps
To “remove” any nonremovable application without root you need a computer with the adb command-line tool. In fact, this method never removes any application, rather disables and hides it for the current user. So it doesn’t affect OTA and it doesn’t revert after reset either. It does come back after factory reset though.
The method of erasing an app works through adb (so adb must be installed on the computer – either Windows or Linux) and it requests the following syntax in command line:
1. adb devices (and after that setting permission on the phone)
2. adb shell
3. pm unistall -k --user 0 <package name>
where <package name> is not the name of the application as it shows but the name of the installed package, which must be discovered and one of the apps which could do that effectively could be found here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.itto.packageinspector&hl=en.
(for example: pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.wallet)
A basic idea what to disable could be found here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-10/how-to/guide-to-remove-apps-root-t3828324. Of course, what to disable always depends on personal preferences and therefore this list should be taken with a grain of salt.
So, after arranging applications there comes the final stage of making the phone Android again. EMUI makeover. For that, we need this EMUI editor: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mixapplications.themeeditor.
But there is a bad news. It doesn’t work with EMUI 9 (yet). What now? There are two possibilities: either finding a good theme and simply installing it (there are plenty of them, only I didn’t test if they are working with EMUI 9 (some of the android likes are to be found in the Playstore under Hamzio7 or here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/themes/pure-black-theme-emui-8-t3719904.
The other possibility is to find a phone with EMUI 8 and compile the hwt file there and transfer it to Mate 20 X. That is what I did. The system will warn you that it is an old version of the theme and it might not work well but skip that. It works just fine.
Don’t judge the solution by my design. I’m a modest guy, more practically oriented. You may have almost any design that you wish.
And of course, if you decide to experiment with this stuff yourself, you should be aware that you are the only one taking the risk. I honestly believe that you can’t, if you are not extremely innovative, irretrievably destroy anything, but even factory reset might be sometimes really annoying.
Good luck with your brand new Chinese Mate 20 X.
Great post Just a couple of questions:
1) Are your notifications working perfectly? By that, I mean without delay under both wi-fi and mobile networks, with screen on and screen off? If so, what did you do to achieve this?
2) Do you mind sharing where did you buy the device from?
Nice job! Looking even more forward to the arrival of my Mate 20 X!
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Would you mind give some steps to get google phone and Messages to work properly. When phone call comes in, my phone call screen does not come on. Messages only works sometime and sometime message does not send. Thanks.
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Great post Just a couple of questions:
1) Are your notifications working perfectly? By that, I mean without delay under both wi-fi and mobile networks, with screen on and screen off? If so, what did you do to achieve this?
2) Do you mind sharing where did you buy the device from?
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1) Yes, notifications work flawlessly in my extent of use, both with the screen on and off. I don't use exotics like telegram or whatsapp though. It's a matter of permissions and notification settings. Be aware that each notification had to be set separately and checked under application and under notification sector under settings. And also have in mind that if you install the third party phone, it is just addition of original phone (under app/system processes), and the later must remain active and has its own permissions and notification as well. Phone app has different system structure than SMS. You can simply erase Huawei messaging and replace it with the Google one (haven't tried others).
2) You can find here both color and memory variants: https://www.ilmultistoredelzazza.eu...l_Sim_EMUI_9_Android_9/p1748191_19236868.aspx
wingzero said:
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Would you mind give some steps to get google phone and Messages to work properly. When phone call comes in, my phone call screen does not come on. Messages only works sometime and sometime message does not send. Thanks.
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You should really carefully check and set both permissions and notifications for each application. And remember that you mustn't neglect the system phone app.
piskr said:
You should really carefully check and set both permissions and notifications for each application. And remember that you mustn't neglect the system phone app.
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I checked all the settings and seem to be correct unless I missed some steps.
wingzero said:
I checked all the settings and seem to be correct unless I missed some steps.
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OK. Here are my settings.
You do know there's an EVR-L international models, right? Why not just get that instead? That's what I have.
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OK. Here are my settings.
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Thanks for taking the time to post the screen shots. All my the settings are the same except I don't the phone app on your last screen shot. Did you download it or it's a stock app?
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MishaalRahman said:
You do know there's an EVR-L international models, right? Why not just get that instead? That's what I have.
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It's too late. I already bought the China version. It's too much hassle try to sell it.
wingzero said:
Thanks for taking the time to post the screen shots. All my the settings are the same except I don't the phone app on your last screen shot. Did you download it or it's a stock app?
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It's too late. I already bought the China version. It's too much hassle try to sell it.
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That's right, the last one is Google phone from the link I published and it works just fine (I really recommend it, it has so many opportunities). But you have managed to get notifications neither on the home screen nor on the lock screen? Neither for messages nor for the phone? If I were you I would go from setting to setting for this two apps and inspect every item very carefully. It is possible in this early stage of EMUI9 that it has some weird glitches occurring randomly on some phones but it is not very likely. A small overlooked detail in settings could mean everything.
Otherwise, I don't regret that I bought the Chinese version. Now I've got everything that I would have with the international variant. Only I don't have working Google pay yet, but so far I haven't seen a clear statement that it really works on international Mate 20x either. To work means to be able pay with the phone not only loading a card, that's what I did too. Otherwise, I got a good price (€660 before VAT), integrated call recorder and rooting opportunity.
And regarding crap, international one has it too. I've got international Mate 10 pro and I know it. Besides Chinese one additional western, baked in (MS, Facebook, Google's and third party's).
@piskr
The phone will ring on the google phone app but the screen does not come. I will play with the settings and figure it out. Thanks for all the help.
Thank you. This helped get me to a non-Chinese specifc phone.
Attachin my ADB run.
UPDATE: Please check out AJ's great thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-x/how-to/guide-remove-apps-adb-t3870727
I mistakenly removed one item (com.huawei.android.hwouc) I shouldn't have and I amnot getting OTAs (which I also turn off automatic ones in dev options, but if I want one, I lost it them).
Rudolpht said:
Thank you. This helped get me to a non-Chinese specifc phone.
Attachin my ADB run.
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As I'm not well schooled on ADB. How would you apply this? And why 2 Zips? Gracias
See beginning of the thread and other threads on ADB. Same list, mine in txt or zip, same file, not necessarily good for everyone.
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def-g said:
As I'm not well schooled on ADB. How would you apply this? And why 2 Zips? Gracias
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Here's my Spreadsheet with a quick guide in it along with the adb files you'll need.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-x/how-to/guide-remove-apps-adb-t3870727
Once you get the list of packages on your AL00 just run the fastboot command to remove each one.
wingzero said:
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The phone will ring on the google phone app but the screen does not come. I will play with the settings and figure it out. Thanks for all the help.
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Wondering if you had any luck. Some people actually use a phone as a phone
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Wondering if you had any luck. Some people actually use a phone as a phone
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I got it working. I am using the stable v.25 version. What I did was after selected the google phone as default dialing app, I go back to default apps and click the stock phone and then click the google phone again. I did this by chance and luck. Hope this will solve your issue. The stock phone app is horrible. Make sure you use the stable version. Good luck.
wingzero said:
I got it working. I am using the stable v.25 version. What I did was after selected the google phone as default dialing app, I go back to default apps and click the stock phone and then click the google phone again. I did this by chance and luck. Hope this will solve your issue. The stock phone app is horrible. Make sure you use the stable version. Good luck.
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Thanks man.
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Now it's 27. And so far everything work. Regarding comments on the forum we are on the privileged side. Just be sure to set notifications and permissions right.
Hello guys,
I am happy to share some ways to decrease battery drain for which is problem for most poco stock miui non root users:
1- Go to every app you don't want on background (always active) and make it (restricted backgroud activity) through Settings-Manage app-choose your app-battery saver
2- For system app: you can do the same by going Settings-Manage app-choose your app-permissions-information icon-battery-choose first option and then restrict app
3- Network signals some times drains battery alot, you could decrease it by changing network bands by the following:
Go to dialer and write (*#*#4636#*#*)-phone information-set preferred network-choose LTE\CDMA\UMTS auto prl (tested on global rom was good), note that you need to change it again after every reboot
4- Disable adaptive limit battery option through Setting-battery&perfomance
5-Activate force close button through Setting-additional setting-buttons&gestures-close current app and choose shortcut you want, then at any app you should force close when you are finished with it.
6- Go to every MIUI app and disable automatic updates and recommendation receive
7- Disable location when you are finished through Setting-additional settings-privacy-location and also disable wifi scanning after every disable
8- Go to Google app through Settings-Google and disable every activity on it as you can
9- Install Greenify app from store and work with (non root device) and hibernate all apps you don't need as background
10- Disable automatic brightness, and also decrease the brightness as you can to save power
11- Go to settings-additional settings-privacy-special access-Battery optimization and then make all apps (optimized)
12-Go to settings-additional settings-authorization&revocation and then disable all apps except (updater-system app updater-feedback-battery&performance-Xiaomi sim activation-settings)
I hope these steps could help you and I'm waiting your comments for additional ways or correcting anything
Any review or test results ?
Just wondering wtf is even benefit of 4000mah battery if we need to disable every single app to get battery life. It's their optimisation not good with the latest stable build of miui
Hemudon said:
Just wondering wtf is even benefit of 4000mah battery if we need to disable every single app to get battery life. It's their optimisation not good with the latest stable build of miui
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I think this is from Android system itself due to alot of system app running on backgroud
Hemudon said:
Just wondering wtf is even benefit of 4000mah battery if we need to disable every single app to get battery life. It's their optimisation not good with the latest stable build of miui
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Its not their thing its an android thing. It gets heavier with every update, and since they (its a good thing gone bad) made a lot of those updates standalone of android version it makes like old tablets unusable over the yeras unlike them ipads.
That being said, the advantage of having 4000mah battery is that you still get through every day and have more than the usual midrange 3000mah phone. I get through any day for weeks now even playing games. The tips in this thread are awesome and apply to any phone.
I might as well advise you to clean your USB type-c port once in a while with toothpick since dusts can cause unnecessary wakelocks to your device
whrynox said:
I might as well advise you to clean your USB type-c port once in a while with toothpick since dusts can cause unnecessary wakelocks to your device
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so strange
magaedy said:
so strange
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Dust in the port really causes wakelocks. For proof, visit the BBS thread.
next guide will include stop using the phone and turning it off completely
Instead of doing all these, just spend a few bucks and get a powerbank.
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Hello guys,
I am happy to share some ways to decrease battery drain for which is problem for most poco stock miui non root users:
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Hi magaedy, this list is very useful thank you very much.
Thanks to a RF detector, i found out that my Poco was emitting very often without being sollicited, now I know what to try first.
(In case you are interested in my setup, you can have a look on YouTube searching JaMa6iK4lbM).
Again thanks a lot, this forum is really interesting.
Regards.
GBoTwice said:
Hi magaedy, this list is very useful thank you very much.
Thanks to a RF detector, i found out that my Poco was emitting very often without being sollicited, now I know what to try first.
(In case you are interested in my setup, you can have a look on YouTube searching JaMa6iK4lbM).
Again thanks a lot, this forum is really interesting.
Regards.
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I saw your video and cannot completely understand as it is very advanced but what I want to ask is if poco is emiting waves too much to be harmful on our health ?????
magaedy said:
I saw your video and cannot completely understand as it is very advanced but what I want to ask is if poco is emiting waves too much to be harmful on our health ?????
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Hi magaedy, no, the Pocophone F1 has nothing special regarding its RF electromagnetic radiation, it is just that I own one and that I can do some tests with it. In terms of SAR (Specific Absorption Rate), the Poco even complies with the FCC threshold which is the most stringent.
As a personal point view, i would just avoid to keep it onto my body when i must upload big files, or onto my head for long phone calls, especially when i'm not sure about the RF coverage (bad coverage implies that the mobile emits at its full power, which is e.g. 2 watts in GSM 900).
Depending on my LED light, now I can tell for sure
Rgds,
GBoTwice
smatm said:
next guide will include stop using the phone and turning it off completely
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I want that suggestion. Gonna try it now
1.Uninstall unused apps
2.Force stop every app
3.turn on airplane mode when u r not use phn.
4.stop few sensor-brightness,gyro,ambient(if there is any software to stop sensor forcefully pls reffer)
5.User suggest BO,i suggest battery optimize must be off
6.use magisk lkt-battery
7.*DONT PLAY PUBG* its a battery hunger demon.
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Very funny.
I like this recommendation very much.:fingers-crossed:
Cheers
sssyraj.
I would also wanted to add some battery saving tips:
1. Stick to only one, either Google or MIUI, cloud sync provider then disable everything you don't need on the other.
2. Go to Settings -> Permissions -> Other permissions -> Permissions (tab) -> Start in Background. Only choose the apps that you wanted permissions to receive notifications or third-party sync apps regularly. Others should be disabled. (IDK if this conflicts with MIUI's battery saver but I did it anyway).
3. Disable Double tap to wake or enable it in combination with pocket mode.
4. Put your phone on your pocket with display facing your leg. Prevents false trigger of FP scanner.
I have another suggestion. If using a custom ROM, don't install GApps. Instead use MicroG . I haven't done a side by side comparison, and I'll admit my usage today has been fairly lite, but so far my battery life is great!
I'm running the latest AOSiP ROM.
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I have another suggestion. If using a custom ROM, don't install GApps. Instead use MicroG . I haven't done a side by side comparison, and I'll admit my usage today has been fairly lite, but so far my battery life is great!
I'm running the latest AOSiP ROM.
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Dude could you please send me the link of microG please?
nosiobadx said:
Dude could you please send me the link of microG please?
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I use the MicroG zip from here:
https://downloads.nanolx.org/NanoDroid/Beta/
If you also flash the f-droid zip, you should also install the f-droid extension module through Magisk.
I use my rooted phone as my daily driver and I was wondering if anyone else did as well.
Never.
That's what the nth phone is for.
NEVER
Always and without any exception.
Oswald Boelcke said:
Always and without any exception.
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Me too, it makes the device way better. You have more options, customization, better performance in some cases. You can control everything, you can increase battery service life with AccA.
its must because most phone are filled with trash but the price is still high
Guan Yu said:
its must because most phone are filled with trash but the price is still high
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True, I removed like 40-50 bloatware apps from my phone. It made it so much faster and battery life increased.
ATBG said:
True, I removed like 40-50 bloatware apps from my phone. It made it so much faster and battery life increased.
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In the thread topic you used "Do you use a rooted device as your daily driver?"
Using root to remove bloodware, and using a rooted device, are two different things.
In the first case, the action is a one-time one, after which root can be removed, as long as one knows how to do it effectively without leaving a backdoor.
In the second case, root remains for a long time.
1. For many models, root is not possible at all.
2. In many cases, root is not needed to disable bloodware.
3. In many cases, some of the blootware can simply be uninstalled.
ze7zez said:
In the thread topic you used "Do you use a rooted device as your daily driver?"
Using root to remove bloodware, and using a rooted device, are two different things.
In the first case, the action is a one-time one, after which root can be removed, as long as one knows how to do it effectively without leaving a backdoor.
In the second case, root remains for a long time.
1. For many models, root is not possible at all.
2. In many cases, root is not needed to disable bloodware.
3. In many cases, some of the blootware can simply be uninstalled.
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Root removes it easier, I been daily driving my rooted phone for 2 months now, I use root for a lot of things. I daily drive a rooted phone to do these things:
I rooted because I don't want Google telling me what to do, how to use, what not to do on my phone. I bought my phone, so I should be able to do what I want. I rooted so I can customize, tweak, add features, ad-blocking, lots more.
Here are the apps and modules I use on my rooted phone to make it look nice and have longer battery life, better security.
I have FontManager module to change fonts.
I use Debloater module to systemlessly debloat and De-Google my phone.
I use AccA module to increase my battery lifespan with AccA.
I use Kernel Auditor to underclock my CPU for better battery life. I set the governor to powersave.
I use AFWall+ to have a Linux firewall for better security.
I use substratum to change my theme and accent color. My theme is Liv Dark.
I can add new features and functionality that wasn't there before.
I use AdAway to block ads system-wide, I also use AdAway to block malicious ads and ViPER4Android to make my speakers louder.
I use Permission Ruler to turn off app permissions when screen is off to improve battery life.
I use Termux to have the terminal on Android to make it more Linux-like.
Lots more stuff.
I use Energized module to block malware, lots more.
I use Tasker to do user-defined actions.
I use EdXposed Manager to have more control and customization.
My favorite module for EdXposed is GravityBox.
My rooted phone is my daily driver and it runs really great, fast with 8-9 hours of battery life.
ze7zez said:
In the thread topic you used "Do you use a rooted device as your daily driver?"
Using root to remove bloodware, and using a rooted device, are two different things.
In the first case, the action is a one-time one, after which root can be removed, as long as one knows how to do it effectively without leaving a backdoor.
In the second case, root remains for a long time.
1. For many models, root is not possible at all.
2. In many cases, root is not needed to disable bloodware.
3. In many cases, some of the blootware can simply be uninstalled.
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it isnt easy like you said . On some phone you cant disable app with adb . Even with rooted device , for some app you cant disable it completely without magisk cuz its re-enabled on next reboot
Guan Yu said:
it isnt easy like you said . On some phone you cant disable app with adb . Even with rooted device , for some app you cant disable it completely without magisk cuz its re-enabled on next reboot
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You are right, that has happened to me when I didn't root. I unrooted one time and all the apps came back, which is why I root. I root to keep bloatware away. Even with ADB and non-root, the app is still in the system. You only removed it from the user.
I have seen videos of people saying rooting isn't worth it in 2022.
I was wondering if anyone thought the same.
Does anyone root in 2022?
I don't do it.
If, then only temporarily.
if you dont trust google or any manufacturer, yes it is still worth it. i dont root it because i dont mind sharing my data with those companies
Fytdyh said:
if you dont trust google or any manufacturer, yes it is still worth it. i dont root it because i dont mind sharing my data with those companies
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I don't trust Google with my data and info, why would you want to share that?
xXx yYy said:
I don't do it.
If, then only temporarily.
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Why don't you do it? You want Google looking at all of your data, controlling what you can and can not do?
i just figured out today....root acces aren't powerfull anymore as in the past
since A 10 system partition is read only...so u can't change something on it....like new bootannimation or termal config to manage the hot snapdragon 888
DanielMode said:
i just figured out today....root acces aren't powerfull anymore as in the past
since A 10 system partition is read only...so u can't change something on it....like new bootannimation or termal config to manage the hot snapdragon 888
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You can change the boot animation, I did.
on what device.?
on Sony Xperia it's not possible anymore.
DanielMode said:
on what device.?
on Sony Xperia it's not possible anymore.
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Use Boot Animations For Superusers. Then use this too:
Boot-Animations for Android 10.It should work for 11 too.
I going to put in a list of apps or mods I've tested so far on my P7P that are fully working and in daily use.
Please feel free to add yours if you have any but only if you've actually tested them yourself and found no issues to date.
So far I'm running/have run without issue
Magisk
Safetynet-fix thanks to @Displax
Hotello themer core
BlockADs
Themer
Repainter
Aosp mods
Lsposed
Substratum
How about xprivacylua?
Beefheart said:
How about xprivacylua?
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I've not tried that one. What does it do?
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I've not tried that one. What does it do?
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It allows you to fake details. For example location. So apps that don't work unless you allow them location access think you're somewhere else. But it covers all permissions you can give. This is provided on an app by app basis.
What is hotello themer? Tried googling it, nothing popping up
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What is hotello themer? Tried googling it, nothing popping up
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Project Themer · Android 12⁺ - Apps on Google Play
Customize your Android!
play.google.com
Magisk working, but only V24 and higher.
also, yoi can't to edit build.prop. is RO, also all the system partition is RW.
i tested it on the Google GSI - AOSP BETA2
I've been using AdAway for years. I see blockads mentioned here. How is that compared to AdAway? How about other alternatives?
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I've been using AdAway for years. I see blockads mentioned here. How is that compared to AdAway? How about other alternatives?
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I believe blockADS uses VPN ad blocking instead of systemless hosts like AdAway. I'm a fan of AdAway and still use it.
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I believe blockADS uses VPN ad blocking instead of systemless hosts like AdAway. I'm a fan of AdAway and still use it.
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Thanks for explaining the difference. I would assume the VPN would use more resources and battery?
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Thanks for explaining the difference. I would assume the VPN would use more resources and battery?
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Yes, but it's negligible. Rootless adblocking and/or firewall can only really be done with a VPN. I strongly recommend Netguard from the same author as Xprivacylua. This combines both a rootless firewall and adblock in one and has a fantastic interface. There is a free and donation version.
GitHub - M66B/NetGuard: A simple way to block access to the internet per app
A simple way to block access to the internet per app - GitHub - M66B/NetGuard: A simple way to block access to the internet per app
github.com
It wouldn't be a bad idea to run both on a wifi connection and switch off the VPN blocker when running off of data only to help save a little battery.
I run XPrivacyLua (and Pro) just fine.
Also:
AOSP Mods (lots of customization not available elsewhere)
AdAway
Battery Charge Limit (to limit charging to only between 84-89%)
Lucky Patcher
Solid Explorer (I've preferred SE for years due to dual-screen in landscape mode)
Substratum & Substratum Lite (some themes refuse to work with one or the other)
Swift Backup (best backup since Ti)
For blocking ads, I paid for AdGuard a couple years ago, in conjunction with AdAway and limits set in XPrivacyLua, I see ZERO ads, plus AdGuard works with other platforms too, so I've got it running on a couple of my PCs as well. It's not a root app, but I've never had a battery drain from it. It does show that it's often awake, but that's because it's working - it's not actually taking up battery.
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I run XPrivacyLua (and Pro) just fine.
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Where is the "official" link to these nowadays? Does this stop Google from spying on us quote so much? I'm very interested seeing as I'll have the oligarchs' phone. I love their product. Too bad they're using it against us!
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Also:
AOSP Mods (lots of customization not available elsewhere)
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Can you elaborate? I'm really interested in deciding if the pain of rooting is worth it. I'm still on A10 on my p2xl because I didn't wanna deal with the pain of the big update to a11.
Psychlone said:
AdAway
Battery Charge Limit (to limit charging to only between 84-89%)
Lucky Patcher
Solid Explorer (I've preferred SE for years due to dual-screen in landscape mode)
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I'm guessing you're using SE to modify files for your aosp mods?
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Substratum & Substratum Lite (some themes refuse to work with one or the other)
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is substratum lite the non-root version? Substratum swift black is something that really urges me to root.
Psychlone said:
Swift Backup (best backup since Ti)
For blocking ads, I paid for AdGuard a couple years ago, in conjunction with AdAway and limits set in XPrivacyLua, I see ZERO ads, plus AdGuard
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Without installing the app I'm having a hard time seeing what Adguard costs. I don't see the cost listed in the description in play store. Is it a subscription cost or one time fee? What is the cost?
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Battery Charge Limit (to limit charging to only between 84-89%)
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I'd like to confirm a couple of things about this comment. You're running it on a Pro 7, yes? I used this app on my OnePlus 7T for years--and loved it. It never worked on my P6, and doesn't actually limit charging on my P7P. It installs, opens, and runs--but charges past the (80%) limit I set.
Does it actually limit charging on your P7P?
Schroeder09 said:
Where is the "official" link to these nowadays? Does this stop Google from spying on us quote so much? I'm very interested seeing as I'll have the oligarchs' phone. I love their product. Too bad they're using it against us!
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Always Github for official stuff: https://github.com/M66B/XPrivacyLua
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Can you elaborate? I'm really interested in deciding if the pain of rooting is worth it. I'm still on A10 on my p2xl because I didn't wanna deal with the pain of the big update to a11.
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XPrivacyLua is just like the old AppOps application that allows you FULL control over what an app does. Read what it does, I'm sure they can explain it better than I can, suffice it to say that I use it to block google, tiktok and tumblr. I don't use Facebook, Instagram or any other social media on my phone or they would be in that list too.
You can spoof your location, IMEI, MEID, your phone number, etc and even randomize them every time your phone reboots - that way, whatever app you've run through XPrivacyLua is getting garbage info about you. You can't just wontonly shut everything down - things will quit working pretty quickly if you tun off the wrong things, and its all trial and error - but it's easy to back out and fix.
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I'm guessing you're using SE to modify files for your aosp mods?
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I use it to change things like my battery icon, combine the signal icons, force the 4G icon because it's a little smaller than the LTE icon, change the QS panel, lock screen, etc. There are LOTS of functions that this makes available.
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is substratum lite the non-root version? Substratum swift black is something that really urges me to root.
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No, the Substratum I have always used asks for root permission. I've found that some themes refuse to install or don't work properly in the regular Substratum so I use Substratum Lite too.
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Without installing the app I'm having a hard time seeing what Adguard costs. I don't see the cost listed in the description in play store. Is it a subscription cost or one time fee? What is the cost?
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You can't buy AdGuard through the Google Play store, you have to buy it straight from AdGuard. Since it circumvents most of Google's ability to throw ads at you, Google doesn't allow you to just buy it through them.
https://adguard.com/en/welcome.html
I bought the family lifetime license for 9 devices for $170. I tried it out for a few months and then decided this app is good enough to pay for. They do offer monthly subscription for 3 devices for $3/month. I would suggest running a trial on your phone and your computer for a little bit just to see what it can do for you, if you like it, buy it. For me it works wonders, I DETEST ads and with my combination of settings, AdGuard, AdAway and XPrivacyLua, I don't see any at all.
Well, that's not totally true, I see ads in Tumblr, but I haven't really tried to mess with it much as I'm not on it enough to really care about an ad once in a while.
I'd like to confirm a couple of things about this comment. You're running it on a Pro 7, yes? I used this app on my OnePlus 7T for years--and loved it. It never worked on my P6, and doesn't actually limit charging on my P7P. It installs, opens, and runs--but charges past the (80%) limit I set.
Does it actually limit charging on your P7P?
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Well, that's a really great question. I only installed it recently and have no experience with the app, so I figured that when it charges to 89% that it says it's 100% full, do you know what I mean? -- I thought that when I set 89, that became the new 100. I see it say "100%" in battery stats but I haven't used a battery app to track what it's actually doing. I just figured that since it's supposed to control the battery control config, that that's what it's doing...
If it hasn't changed any values for the battery, how would I know?
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Well, that's a really great question. I only installed it recently and have no experience with the app, so I figured that when it charges to 89% that it says it's 100% full, do you know what I mean? -- I thought that when I set 89, that became the new 100. I see it say "100%" in battery stats but I haven't used a battery app to track what it's actually doing. I just figured that since it's supposed to control the battery control config, that that's what it's doing...
If it hasn't changed any values for the battery, how would I know?
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I don't think it's working for you, and it sounds like you're misunderstanding how it works?
On my OnePlus 7T, charging literally stopped when the battery hit (in my case) 80% full. If you wanted to, you could turn off the app (or raise the limit) and it would keep charging to the new setting (or 100% if you so chose).
wilberfan said:
I don't think it's working for you, and it sounds like you're misunderstanding how it works?
On my OnePlus 7T, charging literally stopped when the battery hit (in my case) 80% full. If you wanted to, you could turn off the app (or raise the limit) and it would keep charging to the new setting (or 100% if you so chose).
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You're probably right, if I set 89 and it shows 100 at full charge, then it sounds like it's not working.
I didn't know how it worked but I came up with the idea that if I set a number as the top limit, that the new number becomes the new 100%. If that's not how it works, then it's not working.
I have installed aospmods but most of the features do not work.
How can I get it to work?
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I have installed aospmods but most of the features do not work.
How can I get it to work?
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It's okay to post in this thread that it's not working for you (although it is working for others), but please only post about the same problem in a single place. Continue your discussion where you posted in the AOSP Mods thread:
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This is a mixed Xposed+Magisk module, which is made to allow customizations that are not originally designed in AOSP (Android Open Source Project). Features: Currently, AOSP Mods offers customizations on different aspects of system framework and...
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Hello,
Not sure if it's the right place, but I'm getting depressed with my Xiaomi 12 behaviour. Since last update, MIUI global 13.2.4, the phone keeps killing apps, even if I set those with :
- not battery restriction
- auto startup
I tried a factory reset, I unlocked it, rooted it. It keeps killing apps. It's annoying, because I use Vivid and removed the navigation buttons. I let you imagine how I can be stuck sometimes when Vivid is killed. Yet, Vivid is locked... So MIUI regurlaty kills it, and sometimes, it even loses the accessibility autorisation.
How can I know what's killing it ? Obviousily, I'm not in Eco mode, and this behaviour also occurs in performance mode. Everything worked very fine until last update.
Sirguda said:
Hello,
Not sure if it's the right place, but I'm getting depressed with my Xiaomi 12 behaviour. Since last update, MIUI global 13.2.4, the phone keeps killing apps, even if I set those with :
- not battery restriction
- auto startup
I tried a factory reset, I unlocked it, rooted it. It keeps killing apps. It's annoying, because I use Vivid and removed the navigation buttons. I let you imagine how I can be stuck sometimes when Vivid is killed. Yet, Vivid is locked... So MIUI regurlaty kills it, and sometimes, it even loses the accessibility autorisation.
How can I know what's killing it ? Obviousily, I'm not in Eco mode, and this behaviour also occurs in performance mode. Everything worked very fine until last update.
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Maybe a bug in the rom which is a stable beta.
The ROM is official, it's been deployed in France last week.
Sirguda said:
The ROM is official, it's been deployed in France last week.
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And so, Xiaomi has been deploying beta roms on stable channels for a long time.
Xiaomi 12 EEAStable BetaRecoveryV13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM13.04.8 GB2022-12-01
If it worked before this update, you have the answer.
NOSS8 said:
And so, Xiaomi has been deploying beta roms on stable channels for a long time.
Xiaomi 12 EEAStable BetaRecoveryV13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM13.04.8 GB2022-12-01
If it worked before this update, you have the answer.
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OTA update for an entire country are with beta ? If so, this is a joke. How can I report this to Xiaomi ?
Sirguda said:
OTA update for an entire country are with beta ? If so, this is a joke. How can I report this to Xiaomi ?
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You are not the only one to have had problems following updates, the solution if it worked before, is to flash the previous rom or to use a Xiaomi EU rom.
Sometimes Xiaomi renames a Stable Beta to stable without fixing anything.
NOSS8 said:
You are not the only one to have had problems following updates, the solution if it worked before, is to flash the previous rom or to use a Xiaomi EU rom.
Sometimes Xiaomi renames a Stable Beta to stable without fixing anything.
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Previous ROM is in Android 12. Downgrading won't be a problem ? Keeps root ? EU Roms seem far behind.
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Previous ROM is in Android 12. Downgrading won't be a problem ? Keeps root ?
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Downgrading requires a clean flash and the root is lost along with your data.
Use this tool:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/flash-tool-guide-use-xiaomi-flash-tool.4262425/
And disable the update.
EDIT:
I use a Xiaomi EU rom on my 12 pro and I have several apps that must remain in the background, works very well.
With a Xiaomi EU rom you will have the certified play store without root and lots of extra options.
This is happening to me also and many other people. Fun times waking up to find that your alarm clock hasn't gone off because it was killed in the background.
There doesn't seem to be a workaround yet. There's several posts on the mi.com forums regarding it:
Xiaomi Community
new.c.mi.com
People there have discussed making a bug report via the feedback app (Settings->"Services & Feedback") might garner some support for Xiaomi to fix the issue... one can only hope.
All I can say is if you're thing of updating to V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM OTA then DONT! Teach me to apply an update without checking on it first.
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This is happening to me also and many other people. Fun times waking up to find that your alarm clock hasn't gone off because it was killed in the background.
There doesn't seem to be a workaround yet. There's several posts on the mi.com forums regarding it:
Xiaomi Community
new.c.mi.com
People there have discussed making a bug report via the feedback app (Settings->"Services & Feedback") might garner some support for Xiaomi to fix the issue... one can only hope.
All I can say is if you're thing of updating to V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM OTA then DONT! Teach me to apply an update without checking on it first.
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Go to this site if you need anything, the updates with beta roms on the stable channel do not date from today, many threads on this subject have been created without change since today the problem persists.
Reporting bugs via Services & Feedback hasn't changed anything either.
Note that since the redesign of their site, important threads have disappeared and even some devices.
As a reminder, it is the moderators of this site who report information, well that's just theory because in practice, nothing happens.
If you want answers from Xiaomi, tell them you want to buy a new phone because that's what they're interested in, selling.
I tell you this because at a certain time, I was active on this site, but some of my posts were deleted because I explained how to solve or work around the problem.
Sometimes by checking the hash of a beta rom and the following stable, it was the same.
The solution is to unlock the bootloader and downgrade or install a Xiaomi EU rom.
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This is happening to me also and many other people. Fun times waking up to find that your alarm clock hasn't gone off because it was killed in the background.
There doesn't seem to be a workaround yet. There's several posts on the mi.com forums regarding it:
Xiaomi Community
new.c.mi.com
People there have discussed making a bug report via the feedback app (Settings->"Services & Feedback") might garner some support for Xiaomi to fix the issue... one can only hope.
All I can say is if you're thing of updating to V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM OTA then DONT! Teach me to apply an update without checking on it first.
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I'm kind of relieved that's I'm not the only one with this issue. For sure I dont take a xiaomi anymore. I had doubt about MIUI, and gesture unavailable with 3rd party launcher + this killing app bug, makes me regret not have taken a Samsung S22.
" I had doubt about MIUI, and gesture una aimable with 3rd party launcher"
Xiaomi blocks this function with third-party apps (not new).
NOSS8 said:
" I had doubt about MIUI, and gesture una aimable with 3rd party launcher"
Xiaomi blocks this function with third-party apps (not new).
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Not new, but it's a detail you have trouble knowing before buying. With Vivid Gesture, I was plainly satisfied, but this new bug is really frustrating.
Regarding "Xiaomi EU rom", how well tested is it? Do they have an issue tracker and a list of known bugs?
I've rooted and flashed community ROMs in the past only to find out they are poorly tested / have horrible QA and although superficially they work fine other aspects didn't like Bluetooth, Android Auto or certain camera modes etc.
It has been a while though since I last attempted one, maybe things have moved on since then?
Xiaomi has removed so much of the Google framework that even push notifications isn't working. Take note that the Global ROM is based on the CN variant which is known for aggressive background killing of apps.
In Xiaomi's defense, they are "freeing up" up to 800mb of your internal storage by removing most of Google's API but in the expense of all the issues encountered by Global ROM users.
So if anyone is interested, I'm trying to see if disabling com.miui.powerkeeper works round this issue of background apps being killed in V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM .
I followed this tutorial:
How to disable any pre-installed system app bloatware on Android without root
If you hate the bloatware or pre-installed apps on your Android smartphone, here's how to disable them even if Android doesn't normally let you.
www.xda-developers.com
Will report back if I notice any improvement.
Maybe someone more knowledgable might be able to tell me if there are any downside to disabling this package?
I am suffering the exact same problem with my device since the 13.2.4 update, what i nightmare to use the device since then ! As the other users already reported, it s even killing the alarm app which prevents it to ring ! But it also impacts all app notifications, like whatsapp, outlook, etc. After being killed I don't get the new notifications for those.
I can't believe that they are pushing such an update globally, they are gonna lose a lot of customers which such a poor strategy, as this is not just a "little" bug.
I am interested in the Xiaomi.EU rom, looks like they released one 2 days ago with version number 13.2.6, but I have to investigate if we can install that over our official version on an original EU device, and if it requires a full data wipe or not.
kalhimeo said:
I am suffering the exact same problem with my device since the 13.2.4 update, what i nightmare to use the device since then ! As the other users already reported, it s even killing the alarm app which prevents it to ring ! But it also impacts all app notifications, like whatsapp, outlook, etc. After being killed I don't get the new notifications for those.
I can't believe that they are pushing such an update globally, they are gonna lose a lot of customers which such a poor strategy, as this is not just a "little" bug.
I am interested in the Xiaomi.EU rom, looks like they released one 2 days ago with version number 13.2.6, but I have to investigate if we can install that over our official version on an original EU device, and if it requires a full data wipe or not.
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Welcome to XIAOMI.
You can check below the version of the rom proposed for the update, before performing it.
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/archive/miui/cupid/
EDIT:
You can either update the rom with the update.bat file included in the Fastboot.zip folder but since it is an A13 version, it is preferable to format the data with the first install.bat file .
Obviously the bootloader must be unlocked.
Also remove the security from the lock screen and restart the system.
Hello. I have exactly the same problem. I just bought the phone, after a week I got that update and it made me completely regret that I bought it. Is there any "clean" way to return to the version of MIUI I bought the phone with?
Would a reset return me to the old version? Since i got almost nothing important in the phone, it wouldnt be a big deal.
zazajin said:
Hello. I have exactly the same problem. I just bought the phone, after a week I got that update and it made me completely regret that I bought it. Is there any "clean" way to return to the version of MIUI I bought the phone with?
Would a reset return me to the old version? Since i got almost nothing important in the phone, it wouldnt be a big deal.
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Bootloader must be Unlocked.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/miui-keeps-killing-apps.4529641/post-87852189