I removed my S-Pen and did some writing on the screen, 5 minutes later I went to put the pen back in its silo, only to discover that it had sealed up and was no longer there!!
I never had this issue with any of my previous Note devices.
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I removed my S-Pen and did some writing on the screen, 5 minutes later I went to put the pen back in its silo, only to discover that it had sealed up and was no longer there!!
I never had this issue with any of my previous Note devices.
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is this a joke? have you made sure phone is right way around?
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is this a joke? have you made sure phone is right way around?
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Well, yes it is obviously a joke!
I was being flippant about the fact Samsung changed the silo to the left side of the phone!
I have lost count how many times I go to put the pen back in the right hand side.
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That's funny
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I removed my S-Pen and did some writing on the screen, 5 minutes later I went to put the pen back in its silo, only to discover that it had sealed up and was no longer there!!
I never had this issue with any of my previous Note devices.
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It's right there for me - being basically a lefty.
As for it being on the left,
I've read somewhere that, it's to keep the S-Pen's charging area away from the periscope camera(would've been very close to S-Pen if S-Pen were on the right) to avoid having any magnetic interference. I can't say if it's "the reason", but the reasoning felt logical.
Virgo_Guy said:
It's right there for me - being basically a lefty.
As for it being on the left,
I've read somewhere that, it's to keep the S-Pen's charging area away from the periscope camera(would've been very close to S-Pen if S-Pen were on the right) to avoid having any magnetic interference. I can't say if it's "the reason", but the reasoning felt logical.
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Yes, I agree there was a legitimate reason for the change, and yes it's a win win for left handers
It's not a big deal for me though, I just hoped someone appreciated my humour!
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Yes, I agree there was a legitimate reason for the change, and yes it's a win win for left handers
It's not a big deal for me though, I just hoped someone appreciated my humour!
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Ohh I forgot to mention, that without a doubt appreciated that humour. :good:
Being left handed I am enjoying it. It's was honestly one of the primary reasons why I got it. I actually use the pen more often than previous Notes.
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I have a HTC Fuze and just today as I was talking to somebody I just met, I pull out my phone to see a key from my keyboard missing and now I have to push my phone so it actually slides open or closed (which was embarrassing to say the least). Just before it was as smooth as sliding on ice and now its all hard like when you rub a rock against the pavement. My theory is that the key got stuck somewhere in there somehow and now its causing all this trouble. Has anyone had this experience before? Warranty/Insurance its not an option as the screen has deep scratches and Im out of insurance replacements.
I will post pics later.
Thanks
Hmmm I know I have seen a site that explains how to remove the top part of your phone from the slider. I don't know how tech-savvy you are, but this can be don without damaging the system I think. Note me saying can be done. I think you are going to need a special screwdriver and a good guide, but that part is up to you, 12
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Hmmm I know I have seen a site that explains how to remove the top part of your phone from the slider. I don't know how tech-savvy you are, but this can be don without damaging the system I think. Note me saying can be done. I think you are going to need a special screwdriver and a good guide, but that part is up to you, 12
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I took apart my last fuze... I ended up jacking it up. You cannot just remove the the top part from the slider without taking the bottom part apart (im really sure about this) but can I have that link to the site you are talking about?
DJGonzo said:
I took apart my last fuze... I ended up jacking it up. You cannot just remove the the top part from the slider without taking the bottom part apart (im really sure about this) but can I have that link to the site you are talking about?
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Try:
http://www.mikechannon.net/page1.html
Or search google for "dismanteling" "touch pro",
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12aon said:
Try:
http://www.mikechannon.net/page1.html
Or search google for "dismanteling" "touch pro",
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Thanks!
I managed to fix it after I broke the spring that covers up the flex cable (and now u can see the darn ugly flex cable) but it turns out it was stuck under the screen. I took one of the corner screws on the back off and lifted off the keyboard on that corner which gave me enough space to run my flat screwdriver thru and got the key out. I super-glued the key back on and I have my phone back! Yay! Thanks!
EDIT: The super-glued key is not springy anymore. Its kinda really soft but it works (its the useless AT&T/Cingular Video key anyways... who cares?)
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Thanks!
I managed to fix it after I broke the spring that covers up the flex cable (and now u can see the darn ugly flex cable) but it turns out it was stuck under the screen. I took one of the corner screws on the back off and lifted off the keyboard on that corner which gave me enough space to run my flat screwdriver thru and got the key out. I super-glued the key back on and I have my phone back! Yay! Thanks!
EDIT: The super-glued key is not springy anymore. Its kinda really soft but it works (its the useless AT&T/Cingular Video key anyways... who cares?)
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Good to hear it's solved, cheers
Hi all,
I think my SGN 10.1 is a fine tablet, but I have an issue with the pen: it isn’t recognized when it makes very light contact with the screen. In particular, light fast clicks don’t register consistently. The nib is a little loose and clicks a little bit. When I press down on the screen just until the tip makes contact with the back-end, no response. I have to press just a little more for the touch to register.
Do you experience the same thing, do you think it’s normal behavior, or should I return it?
Did you try reseating the nib?
toenail_flicker said:
Did you try reseating the nib?
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Yes, and I tried a different nib as well. So I guess you think I have a real issue? In your opinion, should the tablet react to the lightest touch or not?
I think the actual convenience of this pen is more sensitive than finger on SGN 10.1,even the original SGN.
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Yes, and I tried a different nib as well. So I guess you think I have a real issue? In your opinion, should the tablet react to the lightest touch or not?
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After reading your post, I can confirm that my one reacts in the same way after testing.
For me this is not an issue as I have no real need to touch and move the screen so lightly. Everything I have practically used it for has worked without any hiccups and I have been able to achieve the desired results such as flawless note taking, browsing with the pen, doodling now and again.
Which task will you perform that requires such sensitivity?
My only complaint is that when I write using the S-pen, I occasionally press the side button which I wish I could disable.
HasC said:
After reading your post, I can confirm that my one reacts in the same way after testing.
For me this is not an issue as I have no real need to touch and move the screen so lightly. Everything I have practically used it for has worked without any hiccups and I have been able to achieve the desired results such as flawless note taking, browsing with the pen, doodling now and again.
Which task will you perform that requires such sensitivity?
My only complaint is that when I write using the S-pen, I occasionally press the side button which I wish I could disable.
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Thanks a lot for the info! The "issue" nags me in normal use, like clicking buttons and hyperlinks. I am a light-handed user, I like to click lightly and quickly. I also like the idea of not putting too much stress on the screen, fearing premature damage/scratching. But if everybody is on the same boat, I guess I will have to adjust, for everything else works fine, in particular the handwriting recognition which I find quite impressive IMO.
tonyleeloveyou said:
I think the actual convenience of this pen is more sensitive than finger on SGN 10.1,even the original SGN.
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But how sensitive is your pen? Can you succesfully click on buttons and menus fast and with a very light touch consistently, or does it skip clicks like every five tries?
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Thanks a lot for the info! The "issue" nags me in normal use, like clicking buttons and hyperlinks. I am a light-handed user, I like to click lightly and quickly. I also like the idea of not putting too much stress on the screen, fearing premature damage/scratching. But if everybody is on the same boat, I guess I will have to adjust, for everything else works fine, in particular the handwriting recognition which I find quite impressive IMO.
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I wonder if there is a way to adjust screen sensitivity like in CM....
ngocdao said:
I wonder if there is a way to adjust screen sensitivity like in CM....
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I think in my case, the problem is more “responsiveness” than “sensitivity”. The touch screen is responsive to the finger, not so much with the pen. And the sensitivity to pen pressure is very good. It’s just that the pressure threshold for the pen to be recognized is bit too high for my taste. I’d like the feedback of other users before considering replacing my unit.
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But how sensitive is your pen? Can you succesfully click on buttons and menus fast and with a very light touch consistently, or does it skip clicks like every five tries?
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Mine skips sometimes and is inconsistent as well. My Note phone behaves the same way.
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Thanks a lot for the info! The "issue" nags me in normal use, like clicking buttons and hyperlinks. I am a light-handed user, I like to click lightly and quickly. I also like the idea of not putting too much stress on the screen, fearing premature damage/scratching. But if everybody is on the same boat, I guess I will have to adjust, for everything else works fine, in particular the handwriting recognition which I find quite impressive IMO.
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I don't think there is any need to worry as Samsung would have carried out stress tests to an acceptable level to prevent scratches and breakage, it sounds like even when you adjust, you will probably use less pressure than me anyway, I am quite heavy handed.
I have been using the phone version of the Note for a while and have never had issues with scratches or breakage. I intend to use the Note as I would use pen on paper and if it cannot handle that then it is not worth the money that Samsung are charging for it and I will be the first to take it back if there were problems under the sales of good act we have here in the uk I.e. being fit for purpose, durable quality etc.
You may want to get a screen protector if you are still concerned.
If you draw a lot the spen imprints a lot of sgnote s/p. I have a really heavy hand and draw with immense pressure on both notes and they have yet to show any wear...
we don't see things as they are; we see things as we are.
donglepierre said:
Hi all,
I think my SGN 10.1 is a fine tablet, but I have an issue with the pen: it isn’t recognized when it makes very light contact with the screen. In particular, light fast clicks don’t register consistently. The nib is a little loose and clicks a little bit. When I press down on the screen just until the tip makes contact with the back-end, no response. I have to press just a little more for the touch to register.
Do you experience the same thing, do you think it’s normal behavior, or should I return it?
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Yes, imho your pen /tab is malfunctioning. I've received my 2nd tab, which unlike the 1st one creaked on both sides *and* exhibited the same light touch pen behaviour problem. It was very frustrating to use. Other than some stutter the 1st tab works just fine. So, I decided to send the 2nd tab back due to 2 issues I mentioned earlier. Interestingly enough and going by the serial # the 2nd tab was from the earlier build.
I say get it exchanged if you can. Hth.
SM05 said:
I say get it exchanged if you can. Hth.
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You just made things more difficult for me. Hmmm whom should I believe?... I don’t know lol
Life is short. If you're not happy, return it.
toenail_flicker said:
Life is short. If you're not happy, return it.
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I’m happy. But I would be happier if I knew for sure that I could do better by replacing my Note. All things considered, I think I’ll keep it. I don’t think I’ll get an S-Pen without a little leeway in the nib (I had an Intuos 3, and I have vague memories of this).
Bamboo pen/tip design looks nothing like the spen
we don't see things as they are; we see things as we are.
For those interested, a related thread about the Wacom Intuos 4: http://forum.wacom.eu/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=993 (see the post by ivanzorkic)
That’s exactly what I needed to have confirmation on. So I’ll keep my Note as is, quality is good enough. Thanks everyone!
I'm having the same problem with my second Note 10.1. My first Note 10.1 (that was stolen) was bought in September. This one was bought a few days ago. It's different from my first one. The screen sticker has more logos such as DivX and ChatOn and is in colour as opposed to white only. The S Pen fits tightly in the slot and is hard to remove compared to the old one which was perfect and easier to remove. Light touches with the pen don't register making skips in the lines where I reduce pressure.
Could this be a manufacturing issue affecting the newer models? Should I exchange it or is there calibration I can do?
Hi all. I just bought the bt s pen but instructions are in Chinese. I think I've worked most of it out but was wondering if anyone has English manual.
DrADP said:
Hi all. I just bought the bt s pen but instructions are in Chinese. I think I've worked most of it out but was wondering if anyone has English manual.
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If the pen works and you can answer & reject calls , what more do you need to know?
Things like- can I charge with any usb, how long will the battery last. And I can't work out how to reject calls
I don't get the point of this device. How can you write if you are talking on the pen?
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there is no point to the pen, like most of these modern gadgets. do we really need tablets and ipads etc. We have them because steve jobs told us we need them, thats all. do we really need facebook and twitter. what good is it doing anyone.
mitchellvii said:
I don't get the point of this device. How can you write if you are talking on the pen?
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Well, you can at least talk without having to carry around an aditional headset...if you wan't to make notes of the call, you're still free to pull out the original S-Pen.
DrADP said:
Hi all. I just bought the bt s pen but instructions are in Chinese. I think I've worked most of it out but was wondering if anyone has English manual.
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Where did you buy it? I would like to buy one as well.
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Where did you buy it? I would like to buy one as well.
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EBay. Plenty available. Paid about $150 us
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Well, you can at least talk without having to carry around an aditional headset...if you wan't to make notes of the call, you're still free to pull out the original S-Pen.
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Exactly!
OP (and any other owners), do you mind sharing your experience with this pen?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1838111
Thanks.
Mine's supposed to get here tomorrow. I'll post a review. It really comes down to what's more stupid looking: 1) talking to a 10.1" tablet, or 2) talking to a pen? I refuse to wear a BT headset when I'm not actually on a call and it takes to long too get it set-up and in your ear when a call's received. With the BT Pen I can put the SIM from my phone in my Note and that way I don't have to carry two devices all the time. That said I'd never consider a tablet a full-time replacement for a phone. I'm contemplating a Note II when it comes out so the BT Pen solves the problem of holding something the size of a book against my ear.
I'm hoping Samsung will release it in black soon
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EBay. Plenty available. Paid about $150 us
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I was fortunate enough to find one locally for $100. Got it in 3 days which was great. Would've driven me mad waiting for it to arrive from Korea where most seem to come from.
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DrADP said:
Hi all. I just bought the bt s pen but instructions are in Chinese. I think I've worked most of it out but was wondering if anyone has English manual.
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I know this post was originated 3 months ago so this is really for anyone still interested.
Mine is in English if you still need to know anything.
Although I have to admit there isn't much to the instruction booklet.
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Things like- can I charge with any usb, how long will the battery last. And I can't work out how to reject calls
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Charge with any USB if its small enough to fit. There's a part to the USB cord (can't find the picture right now) that's if its too big won't fit past the cap which needs to be opened to charged.
Gotta look for that pic.
I ended up getting one of these and is really useful. I have found another little trick which makes this pen perfect for everyday use. If you have issues of accidentally pressing the button when writing which I do, you can unscrew the silver end and when you take it off, you will see that there is a tiny S-pen inside it. Pull the S-pen out and replace it with the button the opposite way and screw the silver end back on.
Now when you use the pen, it does not matter if you press the button, you can continue as normal. If you need the button functionality, just pull out the original one that came with the note and use as necessary.
Because of this little trick, I use this pen the most for any extensive note taking with the added benefit of answering calls when needed.
I hold mine without depressing the button so I won't be taking it apart.
When I first got it holding it was a little awkward; mainly do to it being much bigger than the supplied s-pen but I got over that awkwardness real quick. :victory:
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I hold mine without depressing the button so I won't be taking it apart.
When I first got it holding it was a little awkward; mainly do to it being much bigger than the supplied s-pen but I got over that awkwardness real quick. :victory:
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That's cool but just to clarify to others, unscrewing the silver end does not require any modifications, the pen has been designed so that it can be unscrewed. You just have to make sure you turn it anti-clockwise when doing so and the small S-pen inside is not glued in so just drops in your hand when the silver cap is unscrewed and the pen is tilted.
There is no chance of damaging it as long as common sense is used e.g don't over tighten when screwing the silver cap back in.
I have been noticing now that I'm back in school a zone about 2/3 to the left and 2/3 up from bottom of the screen where the pen is read higher or lower than it actually is depend on where in this spot you are. It's about the size of a circus peanut and it's driving me ballistic. Is the a way to recalibrate the spen or am I going to have to get this repaired. Rooted.
Sorry from the left**
Tsk_Tsk_Tsk said:
I have been noticing now that I'm back in school a zone about 2/3 to the left and 2/3 up from bottom of the screen where the pen is read higher or lower than it actually is depend on where in this spot you are. It's about the size of a circus peanut and it's driving me ballistic. Is the a way to recalibrate the spen or am I going to have to get this repaired. Rooted.
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Please be careful but I found the on another thread and was able to get S pen working again by using it:
"dial *#2663# (type from the telephone application) and Wacom firmware update (kernel) --> to restore the spen working"
These upgrades may or may not work for you. Best of luck.:fingers-crossed:
Thanks yeah i have the past so no dialer here =(. I'll have to investigate the firmware update
If your tablet is in a case take the tablet out of your case and retest.
There are many that use hidden magnets embedded within them either for assisting in keeping them closed, making them adjustable (stand positions) or to turn on/off the screen when opened. These tablets are sensitive to magnetic fields and the S-Pen will be affected by magnetic fields as well. Even if you don't suspect that your case has any magnets at all go ahead and remove the tablet anyway just to see.
Post your results.
If you were here I would kiss you. That was totally it. It was such a strange spot I didn't even consider it. <3
Yeah I pulled my hair out trying to figure it out myself. My Belkin case does it. Glad I could help.
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All the YouTube dread over the location of the fingerprint scanner will not be a problem for most. This is a Urban Armor Gear Case (UaG) for the Galaxy S8+. It will not be a problem for me.
Everyone has different sized and shaped hands, that's where the problem lies, it not being a problem for you doesn't mean that it will work for everyone. Left handed people will also have to hold their hands in an awkward position to hit the scanner, I personally won't have any problem with it, but I know that people with smaller hands will
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All the YouTube dread over the location of the fingerprint scanner will not be a problem for most. This is a Urban Armor Gear Case (UaG) for the Galaxy S8+. It will not be a problem for me.
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You do realise you are going to be putting greasy fingerprints right over the camera lense every time you try to unlock it right? It is slightly less of a problem for people holding it/unlocking it with their left hand (i hold with left and tap with right so its not quite so bad for me) but its still stupid placement. Putting it BELOW the camera instead of next to it would have made it easier to reach for smaller hands, easier to reach for people unlocking with the right hand, and greatly reduce the chances of hitting the camera lense instead.
It's just plain dumb design and that was obvious right from the first leaks showing where it was, so how the geniuses at samsung couldn't see that right from the start I have no idea. It was probably a rush decision after they failed to integrate it into the screen but its so clearly a stupid location for it that even a rush decision shouldn't have resulted in locating it there.
I may be slightly harsh, but this isn't a mid range phone, its the very top end of the top end and for the money they decided to charge for it, it should be damn near perfect.
I'm a lefty so I'm just going to run my finger along the back until I feel the sensor. Doubt I'll have many problems with wiping my camera lense. And I also rarely take pictures so I have that going for me as well.
Looks like you will be covering up at least 50% of the camera at the same time.
I dont even think about to use fingerprint sensor on s8+
Nope!
I'm just the opposite. If I try to do it with my left index finger, the scanner is too close. It's awkward for me to try using my left index finger. With the UAG case, I'll easily be able to keep away from the camera lense.
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You do realise you are going to be putting greasy fingerprints right over the camera lense every time you try to unlock it right? It is slightly less of a problem for people holding it/unlocking it with their left hand (i hold with left and tap with right so its not quite so bad for me) but its still stupid placement. Putting it BELOW the camera instead of next to it would have made it easier to reach for smaller hands, easier to reach for people unlocking with the right hand, and greatly reduce the chances of hitting the camera lense instead.
It's just plain dumb design and that was obvious right from the first leaks showing where it was, so how the geniuses at samsung couldn't see that right from the start I have no idea. It was probably a rush decision after they failed to integrate it into the screen but its so clearly a stupid location for it that even a rush decision shouldn't have resulted in locating it there.
I may be slightly harsh, but this isn't a mid range phone, its the very top end of the top end and for the money they decided to charge for it, it should be damn near perfect.
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The LG V20 has the fingerprint scanner on the back. I don't know until I see the actual device, but I think the S8 once you get used to it, it should be fine.
I don't think it will be much of an issue either. But the S8 is just so fantastic you need to find a con somewhere
Honestly, I won't even use it. I hold my phone really low compared to most, I guess.
Can someone confirm how fast/reliable the iris scanner is? Also, does having it on make a noticeable impact on battery life?
im using an iphone 7 plus and i wipe my camera every time i use it and theres no fingerprint scanner back there hahahaha people are weird
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Everyone has different sized and shaped hands, that's where the problem lies, it not being a problem for you doesn't mean that it will work for everyone. Left handed people will also have to hold their hands in an awkward position to hit the scanner, I personally won't have any problem with it, but I know that people with smaller hands will
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I hear you and agree with the caveat that people with small hands need to purchase a mobile that they can handle efficiently. The S8 and S8+ are not designed for people with small hands? Its very much a question of compromise. If one desires a screen as large as the S8's then one will need larger than average hands or accept small handed users will need two handed operation. :good:
I don't mind the scanner being where it is. I owned a zenphone with the scanner on the back right underneath the camera. I had zero problems after acclimatising myself to such a layout.
Ryland
I can comment on the fingerprint scanner, it is very fast - near instantaneous, the only issue is that it takes longer to hit the right spot that it does for it to open the phone. as everyone already mentioned it is in a bad/awkward spot. i tend to either hit the camera or the flash when trying to use it. eventually ill train myself to hit the right area, but its not intuitive.
Just checked the s8/s8+ out at Best Buy. The s8+ was perfect for me just doing a quick hands on with the finger print scanner. I thought it would be weird but it was easy for me to use but my hands are bigger than average.
Not looking forward to getting used to this. I have smaller than average hands and I know it will be awkward, but I'll try to survive.
I also am aggravated by the fact that it is impossible for one handed operation on a desk or table. I am work and it just takes a finger swipe with my phone on the desk, but now it will take entering a pin since the FP scanner is on the back and the my face isn't over the screen.
dumpyloser said:
Not looking forward to getting used to this. I have smaller than average hands and I know it will be awkward, but I'll try to survive.
I also am aggravated by the fact that it is impossible for one handed operation on a desk or table. I am work and it just takes a finger swipe with my phone on the desk, but now it will take entering a pin since the FP scanner is on the back and the my face isn't over the screen.
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That is the other irritating thing about it being on the back, when I have the phone in a dock or on the desk I am going to end up picking it up to unlock it instead of just putting my finger on a front facing scanner. I know you can have the iris scanner AND the fingerprint scanner active, but with the iris scanner i would still have to pick the phone up to point it at my eyes so its pretty useless, it will need a pin like you said.
On the back is a way better place for the fingerprint scanner than on the front. On my Nexus 6P I can unlock the phone whilst picking it up single handedly. If the finger print scanner were on the front I'd have to pick it up with one hand and use the other hand to unlock it. The size of the phone, the Nexus 6P and the S8 (The plus in particular) mean that bringing your thumb to where a home button would be would be difficult/painful.
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On the back is a way better place for the fingerprint scanner than on the front. On my Nexus 6P I can unlock the phone whilst picking it up single handedly. If the finger print scanner were on the front I'd have to pick it up with one hand and use the other hand to unlock it. The size of the phone, the Nexus 6P and the S8 (The plus in particular) mean that bringing your thumb to where a home button would be would be difficult/painful.
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Ummm, so how do you use the phone with 1 hand if you cant reach the home or back buttons??
And you could just pick it up so your thumb CAN reach the front, seeing as you will have to use the home buttons and back buttons anyway....
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Ummm, so how do you use the phone with 1 hand if you cant reach the home or back buttons??
And you could just pick it up so your thumb CAN reach the front, seeing as you will have to use the home buttons and back buttons anyway....
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When I unlock the phone it's usually got my internet browser open which is likely what I'm going to be using, so I'm not looking to use the Home/Back buttons.