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Samsung Galaxy A20 - The good and the bad

O.K, the Samsung Galaxy A20 is a budget phone (I bought mine for AU$239) so I do not expect any "flagship" performance but the initial attraction was the Amoled display that has some degree of daylight readability, reasonable camera performance, the relatively big battery capacity for SoC size and the glimmer of hope in rooting this device.
After a little while, some things becomes apparent which I would like to share:
There is no light sensor so screen brightness cannot adapt to ambient light....a strange and disappointing omission
The phone is made in Vietnam not South Korea...just an observation
The heavily embedded bloat from Samsung and Google is chronic in magnitude and its primary purpose is for harvesting personal information and pushing ads
Fingerprint lock works efficiently but the rear sensor is hard to locate
WiFi reception range is poor.
The Android One UI is pleasingly clean but the Settings menus are a bit disorganized
Root can be achieved relatively easily but is "precarious" to say the least.
Show me your good and bad list

jajk said:
O.K, the Samsung Galaxy A20 is a budget phone (I bought mine for AU$239) so I do not expect any "flagship" performance but the initial attraction was the Amoled display that has some degree of daylight readability, reasonable camera performance, the relatively big battery capacity for SoC size and the glimmer of hope in rooting this device.
After a little while, some things becomes apparent which I would like to share:
There is no light sensor so screen brightness cannot adapt to ambient light....a strange and disappointing omission
The phone is made in Vietnam not South Korea...just an observation
The heavily embedded bloat from Samsung and Google is chronic in magnitude and its primary purpose is for harvesting personal information and pushing ads
Fingerprint lock works efficiently but the rear sensor is hard to locate
WiFi reception range is poor.
The Android One UI is pleasingly clean but the Settings menus are a bit disorganized
Root can be achieved relatively easily but is "precarious" to say the least.
Show me your good and bad list
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It had no light sensor but somehow it uses the cameras to adjust to ambient light.

Update after using for some time.....
I really miss not having a notification LED - a backwards step to delete it for the notched display fad. An edge LED would have been great but that would cost 3c to include.....
Mobile reception is noticeably weaker than my old Moto G 2013 and Xiaomi Redmi Note2 - another backwards step!

jajk said:
Update after using for some time.....
I really miss not having a notification LED - a backwards step to delete it
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I agree. I came from a Nexus 6P and found the notification light very handy. It's not a deal breaker for me though.
Does anyone know if the A20 has an oleophobic layer on the screen?

This might be stupid question but why does my A20 SM-A205G not have NFC there is no options under settings or on status bar to activate it but I see some SM-A205U have it and other 205g have enabled, do I have the chip in phone already? Just need to flash other firmware to use it? Has anyone else had any luck activating NFC?

I've had the phone about a month now and coming from an LG V30 before this I can say that despite all the cons I'm overall happier with this phone over that garbage. Barely.
Pros:
The A20 camera is much better with low light
Apps seem to crash less
I also like the Samsung UI more than I expected
The samsung keyboard is so much better than any other keyboard I've been able to find in the app store
I like how the lock button is on the side instead of the back like on the V30
Cons:
The camera is still pretty grainy even in sunlight
The auto screen brightness sucks balls. I can't even count how many times the screen dimmed & brightened just in the last few mins while I'm sitting in one spot
I also very much notice the lack of ram. It feels really laggy at times, like a 5 second delay when I'm just typing or sometimes I'll tap and it'll register as a hold
I can easily see the downgrade in screen resolution when watching videos
The proximity sensor. I'll be in a call and occasionally my face will mute the call or dial numbers
Or when I had the feature activated to double tap to turn on the screen, it would turn on in my pocket all the time and mess with buttons or sliders. On numerous occasions my phone would be ringing and I'd pull it out to find out my leg was messing with the volume slider. Not once did the LG do that
And finally I should've looked into the ability to root this phone before I got it. I have the A205U sadly and didn't make sure it's even unlockable with all the extensive research I was doing while I was looking to replace my LG

ChewbaccaAndroid said:
This might be stupid question but why does my A20 SM-A205G not have NFC there is no options under settings or on status bar to activate it but I see some SM-A205U have it and other 205g have enabled, do I have the chip in phone already? Just need to flash other firmware to use it? Has anyone else had any luck activating NFC?
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I have the same question.... I've seen through the internet many sites saying the a20 has nfc, and even give instructions for activating it , but i couldn't.... Wether it has or not, I'm not certain at all.
Any way to activate nfc using root or something else of the sort?

Poco X2 ghost touch problem.

I am facing ghost touch issue in poco X2 and the problem is getting worse day by day! Anyone who faced similar problem in X2?

I have touch issues also; the screen registers touches when my fingers are near the screen; it worse for me when charging. If you are in India and bought it from Flipkart; I would ask that you raise it with them as soon as possible. I have asked for a replacement on june 17 and their response is abysmal.

Same ghost touch issue here...
abharti880 said:
I am facing ghost touch issue in poco X2 and the problem is getting worse day by day! Anyone who faced similar problem in X2?
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Yes, I also have been facing it since last 2-3 weeks.
I think it might be due to some update in some software, mostly keyboard. I am using Microsoft SwiftKey as keyboard. What about you?

Here we are. Tianma lcd panel? Same problems with poco f1, note 8, note 8 pro. At least about this phones I've been reading extensively. And it's hardware not software problem. I wanted to buy Poco x2 but this thing is obviously deal-breaker. Pathetic

I have been using it for 2 weeks and never had any issue.

I was also facing ghost touches on stock rom but now everything is fine in custom rom...

sharik68 said:
I was also facing ghost touches on stock rom but now everything is fine in custom rom...
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No problems whatsoever? Or just better? Which custom rom?

Madhuvrata said:
Here we are. Tianma lcd panel? Same problems with poco f1, note 8, note 8 pro. At least about this phones I've been reading extensively. And it's hardware not software problem. I wanted to buy Poco x2 but this thing is obviously deal-breaker. Pathetic
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I'm exactly in the same boat as you with my MI A2 touch issues. I've been researching this too for a while now and looks like I'd have to switch to either Oneplus or Realme. Poco X2 was really interesting but deep down i knew.

Madhuvrata said:
Here we are. Tianma lcd panel? Same problems with poco f1, note 8, note 8 pro. At least about this phones I've been reading extensively. And it's hardware not software problem. I wanted to buy Poco x2 but this thing is obviously deal-breaker. Pathetic
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i dont think it is tianma panel
look in the kernel source
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...a0cbd5cffc74e04a5145a8930769f220e71761a.patch
if you download this file and search in text , there is no mention of tianma panel .
but if you look in redmi note 9 pro/pro max source
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...31fa425e8f42661f74339de63c3ad472de6077d.patch and search for tianma , you will get panel dtsi as tianma.
also
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...64ee75e7daeff1bd80bdff74ea99a979c8f2b9b.patch for poco f1
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...d1d7fc3e85fdb6416a5e38025a9692bcc29e5b2.patch for redmi note 8
both show tianma panel dtsi in their source.

i.snehal.kiran said:
i dont think it is tianma panel
look in the kernel source
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...a0cbd5cffc74e04a5145a8930769f220e71761a.patch
if you download this file and search in text , there is no mention of tianma panel .
but if you look in redmi note 9 pro/pro max source
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...31fa425e8f42661f74339de63c3ad472de6077d.patch and search for tianma , you will get panel dtsi as tianma.
also
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...64ee75e7daeff1bd80bdff74ea99a979c8f2b9b.patch for poco f1
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Ke...d1d7fc3e85fdb6416a5e38025a9692bcc29e5b2.patch for redmi note 8
both show tianma panel dtsi in their source.
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Doesn't matter, even the displays from Huaxing in Redmi Note 9 Pro has bleeding and retention issues, so goodbye Xiaomi, i guess.

It's a hardware issue in my case (India)
I bought a brand new Poco X2 on 11th July and got it delivered on 13th July. I have been using Xiaomi phones for the last 2 years so the learning curve with MIUI wasn't much for me, the only thing I needed to get accustomed to was the form factor.
From the very first day, the keyboard used to double tap. While playing PUBG, it would auto press some buttons (reload, backpack etc.). Also, the gestures weren't particularly great.
Initially, I thought it happened because I wasn't used to it, but after 10 days the problem persisted. That's when I decided to do a deep dive. I downloaded several multi-touch test apps, and indeed, it showed the problem of ghost touching. Even while touching the screen once, the max. events would show 2.
On top of this, I faced a very poor screen flickering issue.
I submitted my phone to the service centre on 28th July. They said even though they have not received any X2 with such complaints, there indeed seems to be something abnormal with my phone. It could either be the display or the motherboard or the PCB or the worst - a combination of 2 and 3. So it's either a repair or a replacement at this point. They have asked for 6-7 days, so let's see.
But if you are using the device and facing such issues, don't hesitate to raise your voice.
If you're planning to buy the device, RUN AS FAR AS YOU CAN FROM THIS ONE. Don't buy this.

TheHardworkingBong said:
I bought a brand new Poco X2 on 11th July and got it delivered on 13th July. I have been using Xiaomi phones for the last 2 years so the learning curve with MIUI wasn't much for me, the only thing I needed to get accustomed to was the form factor.
From the very first day, the keyboard used to double tap. While playing PUBG, it would auto press some buttons (reload, backpack etc.). Also, the gestures weren't particularly great.
Initially, I thought it happened because I wasn't used to it, but after 10 days the problem persisted. That's when I decided to do a deep dive. I downloaded several multi-touch test apps, and indeed, it showed the problem of ghost touching. Even while touching the screen once, the max. events would show 2.
On top of this, I faced a very poor screen flickering issue.
I submitted my phone to the service centre on 28th July. They said even though they have not received any X2 with such complaints, there indeed seems to be something abnormal with my phone. It could either be the display or the motherboard or the PCB or the worst - a combination of 2 and 3. So it's either a repair or a replacement at this point. They have asked for 6-7 days, so let's see.
But if you are using the device and facing such issues, don't hesitate to raise your voice.
If you're planning to buy the device, RUN AS FAR AS YOU CAN FROM THIS ONE. Don't buy this.
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The situation with Poco X2 in compare to other Xiaomi phones is still much better. Poco X2 at least doesn't have miserable tianma panel. Problems will occur but majority of don't get any issues

Poco X3 Face unlock not working in the night

The Face unlock does not seem to work in the night. It works perfectly alright on the Poco F1 and really really fast! Its one of the best Face unlocks one can experience. You also see the Infrared light glow when it tries to Unlock. However, this is completely missing on the Poco X3.

Because it doesnt have IR Sensor on its front that has capability on seeing light even on the dark... While the Poco X3 NFC has the capability to have a face unlock, it still need a decent light to scan up faces and it uses A.I. Tech

yan2xme said:
Because it doesn't have IR Sensor on its front that has capability on seeing light even on the dark... While the Poco X3 NFC has the capability to have a face unlock, it still need a decent light to scan up faces and it uses A.I. Tech
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Thanks for your reply.
You would be right, but isn't that like a downgrade. Its not that I will be using it very frequently, but i did notice right on the first night, so probably it is going to be missed out.
Given the situation, I dont think this can be fixed in the next updates as well.

spirits999 said:
Thanks for your reply.
You would be right, but isn't that like a downgrade. Its not that I will be using it very frequently, but i did notice right on the first night, so probably it is going to be missed out.
Given the situation, I dont think this can be fixed in the next updates as well.
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POCO F1 is Series Flagship, and Poco X3 is midrange. so technically it is downgrade. and if you don't know how IR camera works, good luck for using it at night.

spirits999 said:
Thanks for your reply.
You would be right, but isn't that like a downgrade. Its not that I will be using it very frequently, but i did notice right on the first night, so probably it is going to be missed out.
Given the situation, I dont think this can be fixed in the next updates as well.
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Yeah, its permanent, you cant tweak it because it is on its hardware... it doesnt have the capability... because if they would add ir sensor, it will cost them again at designing and manufacturing it so it would cost maybe $20-$40 more on the Poco X3's price and that would that personally me can't buy it because I'm really on a tighta budget

The 'spirit' or idea of the poco series was supposed to be budget flagship. The first Poco F1 had things missing to reduce cost. Like plastic back etc.
This year the SD865 an SD865 plus had 5G modums making it very difficult to repeat the exact success of the F1.
So this year they aimed for flagship 'experience' as well as low cost with a midrange device. Again some things left out to reduce cost.
They could of left out NFC for me an put front firing infrared camera for face unlock.
In New Zealand almost no one uses NFC. We use pay wave on chipped debit cards instead.
But the X3 hits the mark of providing a flagship experience mostly.
The F2 pro missed it in 2 major ways. Price an refresh rate. It got way too high in price in an effort to repeat the F1 experience.
So the X3 is a nice middle ground.
Can't wait till I try mine in November

You guys are missing a major point here, although there is no IR Camera, but thank God, there is also not a huge f**ing notch on it's forehead

spirits999 said:
The Face unlock does not seem to work in the night. It works perfectly alright on the Poco F1 and really really fast! Its one of the best Face unlocks one can experience. You also see the Infrared light glow when it tries to Unlock. However, this is completely missing on the Poco X3.
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Recently i switched form f1 to x3 pro.
I tried face unlock in dark environment and it didn't work.
Problem was from my screen protector that cover the infrared blaster.
After removing screen protector,
I can see the Infrared light glow when it tries to Unlock and it works fine.

arifqur said:
You guys are missing a major point here, although there is no IR Camera, but thank God, there is also not a huge f**ing notch on it's forehead
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Chill bro.
My poco x3 pro have ir face unlock without any notch. So technology solved this

Question Over Sharpen photos

I think my pixel 7 pro is taking photos which are unnecessarily over sharpened and full of digital noise specially in ultrawide is it just me ?? I just got the phone today and and I am now confused if only I am facing this problem or its wide spread,,

Strange, at least in three of four of your photos. This might be the only sample cloud photo I've taken recently. I've cropped this to cut out distracting elements. I don't see anything similar, although in my case there's no blue sky at all, so there could be better examples. Try rebooting?

roirraW edor ehT said:
Strange, at least in three of four of your photos. This might be the only sample cloud photo I've taken recently. I've cropped this to cut out distracting elements. I don't see anything similar, although in my case there's no blue sky at all, so there could be better examples. Try rebooting?
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Yeap i rebooted the phone ,as it's evening now I can't take the same sky photos,but I will report back tomorrow, can it be a problem only with my device?? Should I return it ??

It is known, that Pixel 6 and 7 phones oversharpen in certain situations. It is quite prominent in 2x portrait mode.
Trouble is not in the fact itself, but in impossibility to configure the intensity of post-processing.

I'm not getting what you're getting in the clouds in the first 3 pictures of yours. Mine aren't taken in ultrawide though. What do your cloud pictures look like without ultrawide?

Salilsarkar said:
Yeap i rebooted the phone ,as it's evening now I can't take the same sky photos,but I will report back tomorrow, can it be a problem only with my device?? Should I return it ??
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As to whether you should return it before confirming that it's always a problem depends on when you're initial (15?) day grace period is up. If it's up very soon, then I would consider returning it and ordering another separately - that way you're guaranteed a brand-new, not refurbished phone. I assume by now that there are at least some refurbished ones available.
Otherwise, you could contact Google and see if they'll guarantee you a new replacement, which would avoid the hassle of return/refund/re-order.
That all said...
Personally, I doubt if there is anything wrong with your hardware. On the Pixel 6 Pro, I remember light flares being a huge problem, especially in night photos just after I got mine, and I remember noticing at some later date that I no longer noticed the issue, so they likely adjusted the camera software or Android firmware in some way to compensate for this.

Salilsarkar said:
I think my pixel 7 pro is taking photos which are unnecessarily over sharpened and full of digital noise specially in ultrawide is it just me ?? I just got the phone today and and I am now confused if only I am facing this problem or its wide spread,,
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Alternatively, you could use GCAM and adjust the post-processing according to your needs.
Gcam is FULLY working on Pixel devices, it just needs a few configuration steps and viola, "better" than stock camera since it gives you almost "full" manual control over post-processing.

ekin_strops said:
Alternatively, you could use GCAM and adjust the post-processing according to your needs.
Gcam is FULLY working on Pixel devices, it just needs a few configuration steps and viola, "better" than stock camera since it gives you almost "full" manual control over post-processing.
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This is my next step. I loved GCAM on my S21 Ultra and am missing the level of customization with the stock camera app on my Pixel. Is there a particular mod/build you'd recommend?

grangermoch said:
This is my next step. I loved GCAM on my S21 Ultra and am missing the level of customization with the stock camera app on my Pixel. Is there a particular mod/build you'd recommend?
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BSG latest works with Pixel 7 Pro perfectly. You just need to set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Also, it would need some fine tuning in the settings, since lenses are detected, but wrongly "named", and the 5X is not there, I mean the button is 4x, but it's the digital zoom, and if you expand to 5x manually with fingers it goes to the 5x lens automatically. That needs to be adjusted.
Otherwise, it works great without any configuration on the sensors, photos are stock like (can be adjusted of course to "better") and video fully works like on stock, including OIS, slow motion too and timelapse.

ekin_strops said:
BSG latest works with Pixel 7 Pro perfectly. You just need to set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Also, it would need some fine tuning in the settings, since lenses are detected, but wrongly "named", and the 5X is not there, I mean the button is 4x, but it's the digital zoom, and if you expand to 5x manually with fingers it goes to the 5x lens automatically. That needs to be adjusted.
Otherwise, it works great without any configuration on the sensors, photos are stock like (can be adjusted of course to "better") and video fully works like on stock, including OIS, slow motion too and timelapse.
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For me, on latest BSG 8.6 (v9) the tele button does work correctly. It says 5 and it will switch to the tele. Could be because I am using a config from telegram.

jericho246 said:
For me, on latest BSG 8.6 (v9) the tele button does work correctly. It says 5 and it will switch to the tele. Could be because I am using a config from telegram.
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The latest BSG with interface set too Pixel 6 Pro, it shows a 4x, but if you start zooming in manually by sliding 2 fingers, after it gets 5x digital, it switches to the physical zoom lens. It works perfectly fine on P7P.

ekin_strops said:
The latest BSG with interface set too Pixel 6 Pro, it shows a 4x, but if you start zooming in manually by sliding 2 fingers, after it gets 5x digital, it switches to the physical zoom lens. It works perfectly fine on P7P.
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Shows 5x for me. No need to zoom manually.
And yeah I just tried something, I cleared app data and set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Now it says 4x.
Try the attached config, if you wish (credit goes to SkyKing007), it should "fix" the tele button.
Alternatively you can search for "tele" in the developer settings and set the "camera.ultra_tele_zoom_ratio_facing_back" to 5.0.

I know that it over sharpenes the 2x potrait but it's pretty weird to me that it's doing the same in main or ultra wide camera even my previous OnePlus 9 pro haven't done this ..
Biges said:
It is known, that Pixel 6 and 7 phones oversharpen in certain situations. It is quite prominent in 2x portrait mode.
Trouble is not in the fact itself, but in impossibility to configure the intensity of post-processing.
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Lughnasadh said:
I'm not getting what you're getting in the clouds in the first 3 pictures of yours. Mine aren't taken in ultrawide though. What do your cloud pictures look like without ultrawide?
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It's more or less the same the 1st photo is taken on the standard main camera.

roirraW edor ehT said:
As to whether you should return it before confirming that it's always a problem depends on when you're initial (15?) day grace period is up. If it's up very soon, then I would consider returning it and ordering another separately - that way you're guaranteed a brand-new, not refurbished phone. I assume by now that there are at least some refurbished ones available.
Otherwise, you could contact Google and see if they'll guarantee you a new replacement, which would avoid the hassle of return/refund/re-order.
That all said...
Personally, I doubt if there is anything wrong with your hardware. On the Pixel 6 Pro, I remember light flares being a huge problem, especially in night photos just after I got mine, and I remember noticing at some later date that I no longer noticed the issue, so they likely adjusted the camera software or Android firmware in some way to compensate for this.
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Thak you for the suggestions,I just got the phone tomorrow I would continue to check if its a consistent problem or not ,as much as I know pixels get update with in the 1st week of every month so I will wait to see if the November update improves something..

@jericho246 thanks for the config! which version should i use? ...ENG.apk or ...MGC.apk?

Salilsarkar said:
Thak you for the suggestions,I just got the phone tomorrow I would continue to check if its a consistent problem or not ,as much as I know pixels get update with in the 1st week of every month so I will wait to see if the November update improves something..
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Improve what? This is how pixels take photos. No joking here, maybe just go back to what you had? Or your phone is defective. Try a new one first.

jericho246 said:
Shows 5x for me. No need to zoom manually.
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And yeah I just tried something, I cleared app data and set the interface to Pixel 6 Pro. Now it says 4x.
Try the attached config, if you wish (credit goes to SkyKing007), it should "fix" the tele button.
Alternatively you can search for "tele" in the developer settings and set the "camera.ultra_tele_zoom_ratio_facing_back" to 5.0.
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Hmm interesting, I made quick comparision in all modes and stock gcam making better photos, more details in most of situations, but differences are small. Actualy this is first situation I ever noticed where stock app is better than any modded gcam, well stock is gcam

paratox said:
@jericho246 thanks for the config! which version should i use? ...ENG.apk or ...MGC.apk?
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For Pixel phones it doesn't matter which one you use. I use the MGC one.

I'm seriously confused about people using gcam, on well, a pixel. The pixel has gcam!

Question Xiaomi Mix Fold 2 vs HONOR Magic Vs

Hey guys,
I have just ordered myself the HONOR Magic Vs (Live in the UK) so I'll be able to do some comparison between the two devices.
Just from the spec sheets, they do look quite similar with the Thinness aspect going to the Mix Fold 2 and the Battery size going to the Magic Vs...
The biggest plus of the Magic Vs is the "Global" factor. It has full Google support, and no Chinese bloatware (which is a little strange for a Huawei... aahhh sorry HONOR device )
For more specific impressions, after I receive it. Should only take a couple of days (I hope) It is a local UK delivery after all...
Another thing to consider is the price! Currently, it is "only" £1199 with the £200 discount promo code they give you when you register at the hihonor.com website. The standard price after 25.05 will be £1399 or 1599 Euro in some EU countries...
If you would like to know anything specific, just ask. I'll answer all questions when I get it.

OrionBG said:
Hey guys,
I have just ordered myself the HONOR Magic Vs (Live in the UK) so I'll be able to do some comparison between the two devices.
Just from the spec sheets, they do look quite similar with the Thinness aspect going to the Mix Fold 2 and the Battery size going to the Magic Vs...
The biggest plus of the Magic Vs is the "Global" factor. It has full Google support, and no Chinese bloatware (which is a little strange for a Huawei... aahhh sorry HONOR device )
For more specific impressions, after I receive it. Should only take a couple of days (I hope) It is a local UK delivery after all...
Another thing to consider is the price! Currently, it is "only" £1199 with the £200 discount promo code they give you when you register at the hihonor.com website. The standard price after 25.05 will be £1399 or 1599 Euro in some EU countries...
If you would like to know anything specific, just ask. I'll answer all questions when I get it.
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I thought about buying the Honor Magic Vs or Tecno Phantom V Fold. But the Honor inner screen is max 90Hz and has a camera hole. Tecno is not really known yet.
So i bought the Xiaomi Fold 2 in sale (€1000), unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. I made it more global with Magisk modules.
Before the Xiaomi Fold 2 i had the Vivo X Fold. It has great camera's, loved the two in-display fingerprint readers and mute switch. But thinks like Android Auto didn't work and Vivo doesn't want you to unlock the bootloader.
I skip the Oppo Find N2 and maybe also the Google Pixel Fold because i don't like it in size.
Still curious what you think about the Honor Magic Vs.

Since you asked it here on XDA forum, of course I will recommend Xiaomi devices over Huawei/Honor ones. I will never take a device with non-unlockable bootloader into account!

I have both.
TBH I prefer the Xiaomi. Even though the Honor magic vs has full GMS /Android auto so you dont need to root, it lacks basics like wifi calling/volte

If it didn't have the internal selfie camera, I might have been more inclined. This is one of the deciding factors for the Mix Fold 2 too. Completely un-interrupted inner screen.

m1key said:
I have both.
TBH I prefer the Xiaomi. Even though the Honor magic vs has full GMS /Android auto so you dont need to root, it lacks basics like wifi calling/volte
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And what about the camera's comparison?

m1key said:
I have both.
TBH I prefer the Xiaomi. Even though the Honor magic vs has full GMS /Android auto so you dont need to root, it lacks basics like wifi calling/volte
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Mine got delivered today so I'll check this tonight but according to other people in the Honor forums, WiFi Calling/Volte work fine...

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
And what about the camera's?
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Cameras are 50MP Main, 6MP Telephoto with 3x optical zoom, and 50MP Wide angle. Should be able to produce quite reasonable results.

xiaomifolduser said:
If it didn't have the internal selfie camera, I might have been more inclined. This is one of the deciding factors for the Mix Fold 2 too. Completely un-interrupted inner screen.
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Yeah, the camera hole can be annoying but all other foldables I've owned had it (except the Mix Fold 2) that I'm used to it. If the software can be made to ignore it, I'll be reasonably happy...

Hey guys,
I've been playing for a while with the Magic Vs and here are some initial thoughts of mine:
1. Everything just works! Global ROM is a blessing that you can only fully appreciate after you had several years of Chinese ROMs on Devices not made for Global use. Even some apps look a little different than the versions I have in the Mix Fold 2. All google services are happily running, Android Auto is integrated into the software.
The only thing that makes me miss Root a little bit is AdAway. It still works but with Root it works better. All My banking apps work flawlessly, Fingerprint is not iffy with them (have an issue with it in the Lloyds Banking App on the Mix Fold 2)
2. Hardware and build quality wise it is quite nice. It feels as good as the Mix Fold 2. The camera hole on the internal screen is not that bad although I know some people will hate it. Battery life seems better for now but it is too early for that. I'll have to use it at least for a week to give you more accurate notes on that.
The sound is on par and maybe a little bit better sounding... Most probable because there is a little bit more space inside for better speaker chambers... Don't know... A lot nicer rind and Alarm melodies BTW
On that note, the device does not feel any thicker than the Mix Fold 2. Both screens are a couple of mm smaller but the difference is negligible...
3. No notification issues so far... The is one strange thing that all app notifications are not enabled by default but the first time you start the app, it will ask for all needed permissions like in a normal phone for the Global market.
Google Assistant is fully integrated and working. "Hey Google" works even on a locked phone.
The always-on display shows all notifications. NetFlix is fully supported with HDR10...
Basically, it shows what the Mix Fold 2 could have been if it had proper Global software.

One more interesting thing I found just now is that due to some Honor... Magic... the Gboard keyboard switches from a normal one to the split type the moment you go to the big screen... and stays like that in both portrait and landscape... Miracle

I'm doubtful to buy the Honor Magic vs. The 12GB/512GB global model now only costs €1005 at pdaplaza, but i've now got pretty much everything working on my Xiaomi Mix Fold 2. Choices.