[Help] Weird Issue with touchscreen/digitizer on MTCD PX5 Xtrons unit - MTCD Android Head Units Q&A

Hi everyone!
I've been using an Xtrons TE103ap which is basically a MTCD/E PX5 unit. It operates off of a swivel 10.1 inch screen.
I've been having intermittent issues over the last 1 year where the screen would be unresponsive when the swivel is set to certain angles, so I assumed it was an issue with the connection. It runs off a generic 40 pin ribbon (the kind you find off floppy drives). I replaced it with a new cable and the problem went away for a while.
Every now and then, it would be unresponsive to touch requiring a complete reboot to get working again.
As of 3 days ago, the touch response started becoming laggy, ie. after touching a certain point, it would take about 1 second to respond. No amount of jiggling or wire switching fixed the issue.
I have done a complete teardown of the screen module and i've noticed that the digitizer ribbon is separate from the touch panel's ribbon. All contact points seem to be working and it doesn't seem to be a cable issue.
Assuming it were a digitizer issue, the touch panel's controls would still work right?
The last 3 days, i've been trying everything from going from Android 8 to Android 10, no fortune. I did try several MCU's and one particular MCU got the screen working for a while, long enough for me to get into factory settings and do a configuration. On reboot, i lost all touch functions again...
As of now, i'm perplexed as to whether it is a hardware issue or possibly software issue. Hoping anyone could shed some light.
Thanks !

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Screen alignment in WM6

Hey,
I had installed Faria's first WM6 rom on my phone... and I noticed that my screen alignment was shifting gradually to the left... as in the click would be registered a little to the left each time. This made it difficult to click OK and to Scroll...
I install the Tmobile 2.26 rom, WM5... the problem remains, but after a month it goes away... now my phone is working absolutely perfectly... no need to keep realigning...
I installed another version of WM6 today... Xmobile 2a or something, and after 5 minutes of using the phone the same thing begins happening!
Has anyone noticed this issue?
Some help guys/...
the same problem with me, sometimes when I tap on OK button the tap is sent to the contacts (on the lower right portion of the screen) and sometimes on the middle of the screen...
I changed the IE button to OK/Close button
Screen Alignment
Same with me!
Same here infact this is true with consolidated rom also. I tried all possible combinations of touch dll same issue. This problem is not in NBD 7.X roms
same with me and i'm using TNT 3.0 ...
hi guys screen aligment problem means your screen is faulty..roms dont cause this problem.i had same problem 2 months ago.i sent my wizard to repair.they changed my screen.now my wizard is working like a charm.no more screen aligment problem anymore with wm6(or wm5) roms.(i am using SND 2 at the moment)....HTC technician sad to me this is a big bug in all our at the wizard models.so flash with your orginal rom and send your wizard repair.you will be happy with your new screen )
I had the same problem! I eventually gave in and got a warranty replacement after the vibrator motor started to fail. So far, no problems - XM6.2a works like a charm.
Hey guys, what about the fact that there isnt any alignment problems when running WM5. I'm talking about months of no problems, then loading WM6 and they start all over again....
I've found that my alignment practically shifts depending on the way I put the phone in my pouch... it has a pretty strong magnet... is there anything with that?
Hmmm You know, this can be discussed as a hardware issue etc..
but my personal experience has been this.
WM5. No alignment issues. When I leave it in my pocket though, oftentimes I have to do the screen alignment because it seems to 'fade' and is not precise whenever I select anything in the entire screen with the stylus.
WM6. Alignment issues started happening --but, it only happens on the extreme right of the screen --the vertical scroll bar and the OK button. I oftentimes have to re-align the screen and it seems to be good for a few days/hours?
It's not a defect hardware wise that I can see because it's very specific. If it was a defective hardware, wouldn't the issue be on the entire screen?
Is it ROM related?
WM6 HTC Asian pack installed and tweaked to Cingular
Thumb swipe and screen covers ??
OK, here's a new wrinkle. I was trying to flash a wm6 ROM BECAUSE I was having screen alignment problems. Unfortunately flashing to TMobile 2.26 in preparation only seemed to make matters worse. I resigned myself to sending it in for warranty repair and flashed it to ship 1.8.11.1 WWE and I couldn't even get through the align screen sequence. Sometimes it wouldn't respond at all. Sometimes I could get the first two or three taps, then nothing. And guess what, according to my friendly Cingular (now ATT) dealer I'm 7 days out of warranty!!
The story's not over. As I morosely sat on the couch fiddling, my wife googled a couple of references to this problem being fixed by wiping your thumb across the screen ( yeah right, during a full moon with your other thumb in your ear ). It didn't work. Being the good ol gal she is she said "let me try." I humored her. First thing she tried to do was take of the screen protector (cant remember where I got it but it's the washable kind, recommended on this forum, mail order single piece that fits perfectly). I said don't bother, cause that wouldn't have anything to do with it. You guessed it. She still taunts me about it. It worked. I still have frequent misalignment or unresponsiveness, but I wipe me thumb across the screen (sometimes 2 or 3 times), and poof, it responds appropriately without even realigning! I just returned to the forum to get the ROM I was trying to flash in the first place (the reason I lost it is another long story!) and decided to post this FWIW.
-->steven
I'm still leaning towards this being a hardware issue in my case. I was using WM6 for a few months before I developed any problems with screen alignment. Unfortunately, I did not check to see whether the problem wa still there after I flashed back to the manufacturer's ROM.
Wizard Screen Alignment - Fixed!
Gents,
I'm pretty sure that this is not a ROM problem at all, but a hardware issue that can be easily resolved in most circumstances without handset replacement nor opening up the case.
Specifically, it appears that the flexible mount (foam, I think) around the screen gets a bit stiff or deformed over time. The result is that the screen believes that there is constant and diffuse pressure on the right side, screwing up alignment. All that needs to be done is to slide out the keyboard and loosen the two screws on the underside of the keyboard just a bit. Pressure on the screen is released, and the problem is solved...probably semi-permanently.
That said, if you remain under warranty and are not concerned about a replacement that is a G4 or a different model altogether, by all means send it in for warranty replacement rather than messing with the screws.
I have T-Moile MDA (Wizard) Windows Mobile 6 is working fine for me, no shifting problem of screen. I'm using XDA Mobile 6 (XDA MOBILE 2a)
This is not the bug of operating system, it is the hardware problem of screen.
I have this same problem, and its definately not a hardware issue; I can go into Screen preferences and Align Screen, then it works fine for awhile. Also, restored backups of my WM5 setup are not producing this alignment problem. All WM6 ROMs I have used suffer from it.
Mine is an 8125.
Stinkfist said:
I have this same problem, and its definately not a hardware issue; I can go into Screen preferences and Align Screen, then it works fine for awhile. Also, restored backups of my WM5 setup are not producing this alignment problem. All WM6 ROMs I have used suffer from it.
Mine is an 8125.
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Perhaps the touch.dll in WM6 is more sensitive to the foam mount problem. Have you tried loosening the two screws I mentioned and re-aligning.
datawrhsdoc said:
Gents,
I'm pretty sure that this is not a ROM problem at all, but a hardware issue that can be easily resolved in most circumstances without handset replacement nor opening up the case.
Specifically, it appears that the flexible mount (foam, I think) around the screen gets a bit stiff or deformed over time. The result is that the screen believes that there is constant and diffuse pressure on the right side, screwing up alignment. All that needs to be done is to slide out the keyboard and loosen the two screws on the underside of the keyboard just a bit. Pressure on the screen is released, and the problem is solved...probably semi-permanently.
That said, if you remain under warranty and are not concerned about a replacement that is a G4 or a different model altogether, by all means send it in for warranty replacement rather than messing with the screws.
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I actually just bought a case off of eBay for my phone. I never replaced the screen casing, but found that the screws were loose. I tightened them, then noticed this problem. I will try loosening them and let you guys know how it goes!
amazingly, i loosen the screws and my X button seems to work a lot better with the touch dll. I will test this out for a couple days, but seems to be working pretty well now.
I don't know... That trick doesn't appear to be working for me. One thing I don't understand is how the alignment can be perfect, I let the phone sit over night and it's a centimeter off to the right. You would think if it's hardware related, actually having the phone in your pocket all day, would jar the screen around. But if it sits on my nightstand all night, and still has problems i'm not so sure i'm convinced that it's hardware. All I know is this is really annoying and I do not like having to align my screen everytime I use my phone. Maybe i'll have to get a new one since it's out of warranty.
Guys, check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1388925#post1388925
I just posted a response about someone elses possible fix. This may be the answer.
This may also explain why one users 'loosening' the screws on the unit fixed it. Maybe it was pushing dust into the screen.
OK so maybe this doesn't work. Can anyone else try it ?

[Q] HELP! P900 WiFi Problem

Hi All, I have P900 which I bought about 5 months now, and all the sudden the WiFi is not working as it keep switching on and off automatically (problem which similar to S4 WiFi) and off all the time. I have been doing factory reset, and flashing roms. None of them works. Now I would like to try flashing the modem module just like S4 fix, but I have no idea on where to find those files. I would really appreciate if someone could give me some lead on this, or any other ways for those who have similar problems. Please help.
Same problem (SM-P905V)
I see that this thread is really old but I am having the same problem and I can not find anything on the internet to fix this problem. I bought a refurbished note pro from amazon last September (so it is out of warranty). This is my last ditch effort to try and fix this on my own. If I can't get any help then I will just have to send it to Samsung to try and repair it.
My wifi worked just fine for all this time then about a month ago I was having problems with the bluetooth not connecting. I ignored it at the time as I was going to work on it at a later date. Then about a day or two later it started working again.
Now about a week and a half ago my wifi and bluetooth stopped working. I have factory reset but still nothing. I can get the wifi to even turn on any more. Occasionally I can get the bluetooth to work for a minute or so but 99% of the time neither one works.
I hope that someone can help me with this and I can get it resolved without having to spend a fortune.
PS If no fix then what do you suggest as a replacement? I love all the features of the note pro. I like the stylist, the screen resolution, and the multi-window features. I need a big screen for my business. I use it for a slide show at events.
moparcrazy72 said:
I hope that someone can help me with this and I can get it resolved without having to spend a fortune.
PS If no fix then what do you suggest as a replacement? I love all the features of the note pro. I like the stylist, the screen resolution, and the multi-window features. I need a big screen for my business. I use it for a slide show at events.
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Bluetooth and Wifi have many components on mainboard, repair them is beyond anyone including professionals.
My suggestion is looking for a Note Pro with broken display or woking mainboard only on Ebay; it may cost around $120, more or less depending on luck.
Take out the mainboard is quite easy, only 3 screws at two speakers, I can swap the mainboard within 10 minutes.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/401145234611?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Any SM-P900 ( wifi ) or LTE ( 905, 907 ) mainboard will fit to your existing tablet except rear camera ( LTE rear camera won't work with Wifi model mainboard ).
Since the thread is four years old, this is not really a follow up, but just a note in case anyone is having similar issues. Actually bluetooth + wifi repair on samsung tablets are possible for end user - if you are semi-lucky and broken components are not hard to replace items such as ICs. But first, be sure to rule out any OS level issue by flashing stock rom on the tablet. Then if the issue persist, then if you can locate service manual for the tablet in question, it comes with level 3 step by step instruction (and board view of components) on how to troubleshoot bluetooth + wifi hardware issues. Often the broken component is not the major IC itself, but discrete components such as capacitor, filter or resistor. In some cases issue may be fixed just by reflowing the IC itself with hot air rework station. So there is indeed good chance you can fix hardware issue with a bit of work and some cheap hot air rework station (such as 858D sold on ebay for $30 including shipping).
Ok the worst scenario is that wifi ic is bad and need to be replaced. Good news is that Samsung uses popular wifi ic, such as broadcom chip. And although it's a bga chip, it's quite small, making replacement using hot air gun possible. So will a lilttle bit of skill and luck, it's definitely possible to repair samsung phones/tablets with broken wifi hardware.

Intermittent Lag makes phone impossible to use

Description of the problem:
This happens several times in a day, but I have had a few days when this did not happen. When waking the phone it becomes super slow, like 1-2 frames per second slow. After rebooting- the recovery is just as slow. Sometimes the view is moved vertically up, the top part that is moved outside of screen and is drawn ant the bottom. Sometimes the image flickers. I have not noticed any pattern what stops this behaviour, it is just over after some time (5s to 2 hours).
What I have tred with no success:
Rebooting, clearing cache, factory reset, bringing the phone to full stock (http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/tool-oneplus-one-return-to-stock-t2970390), updating to latest version, several ROMs and different kernels with each of them. After flashing any new rom the phone used to work fine for a day or two, then the stutter reapeared. Tried it without installing any apps- same problems.
I had to replace the cracked screen and the camera that didn't focus to far objects. The touchscreen ribbon is now insulated from the metal LCD back since some people suggested this might be the reason for touchscreen responsiveness issues.
It seems that the processes work normally, but the view on the screen is updated slowly.
What made the problem less bad:
I had applied a glass screen protector. Removing it increased the time between slowdowns.
Since I bought the phone secondhand and had tinkered with it I cannot get it replaced.
I have tried everything I could, now I need your help
Any suggestions?
A video to visualize the issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8z06xnlqk8
Noone? No ideas?
Hi,
Sounds like a Hardware issue to me.The board ist mostly bad soldered. It can happen sometimes in the factory(not only at OnePlus, Samsung, HTC too), even if they test the devices before shipping.
Background: We had some germans around here had the same issue, they got a new replacment by OnePlus, OPO support told the customers that the hardware was faulty.
Can u afford another Mainboard for the OPO ? That will fix that issues for sure.
Well that makes sense I'll poke around to see if I can get one for as little as possible. So far I'd expect to spend ~250$ and that is just bad business
no worrys, u dont need to spent that much.check aliexpress or if your lucky buy a dropped OnePlus One on eBay. One with working mainboard. It will cost around 30-50% less than a single Mainboard would Sounds ridiculous but its true.

[Q] Odd issue with LG G4 touch screen

Hi all,
Just replaced the screen on an Lg G4 and I'm having some odd and somewhat inconsistent behaviour.
The phone is only picking up some some screen inputs, but once the touch screen is active it will detect all input until the touch "session?" is expired. This is best demonstrated in a video I recorded. https://youtu.be/wVREoSQUPtU
So it seems the digitiser is intact but refuses to recognise certain parts of the screen until the touch "session" is active.
Wondering if anyone can explain this behaviour and pinpoint if it's hardware or software related.
uhuglue said:
Hi all,
Just replaced the screen on an Lg G4 and I'm having some odd and somewhat inconsistent behaviour.
The phone is only picking up some some screen inputs, but once the touch screen is active it will detect all input until the touch "session?" is expired. This is best demonstrated in a video I recorded. https://youtu.be/wVREoSQUPtU
So it seems the digitiser is intact but refuses to recognise certain parts of the screen until the touch "session" is active.
Wondering if anyone can explain this behaviour and pinpoint if it's hardware or software related.
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Update:
It seems the touch screen issues go away when the usb charger is attached. The device has been fully discharged as per the sellers instructions but despite these two fixes when the phone is running on battery the strange touch issues persist.
Still unsure what can explain this behaviour, but it seems more hardware related now that we can get it working with the charger attached.
Any advice?
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bump? Surely someone must know!

Generic Android 5.1.1 MTCD Navigation Radio Install for BMW e46

Last month, I found this this Android 5.1.1 Headunit on Aliexpress for $227 shipped. I decided that the price was low enough to take the risk and purchased. The vendor's store is TONGTAI HONGKONG INDUSTRIAL CO.,LTD I am not endorsing the vendor, I didn't need them for any support yet, but I assume people will ask due to price.
Today was the first nice day since I got it, so I did the install this morning. I'm not going to recreate the install here, as there are already many for the Eonon, Dynavin, Avin, and others. This is just like those. I will note where I came across anything I wasn't expecting below.
A couple of points, I did not install a backup camera. My E46 is a Cabrio, and visibility is fine, I just don't think the benefits are there for me. Additionally, DVD is not important so I didn't check that out. I do want a working Radio, Bluetooth Calling and streaming and Navigation. This unit is doing all of that.
Opened Box
Retail box - I've seen other units that have the identical packaging
As Packed
Parts laid out
Parts laid out 2 - Note- connectors for the early and late radio's and early and late antennas. My car is one of the 2006 330's, and one of the last off the line.
Closer pic of unit - These look exactly like every other unit on the market.
Navigation SD card included - I read a lot of different solutions on where to put the GPS antenna. I was going to put it in the spot behind the instrument cluster, but BMW already had a factory installed antenna there. I guess by 2006, it was cheaper to put the antennas in all cars (like the factory Bluetooth). I used the metal cross bar above the radio. The antenna has a magnet on the base and i just sat it on top, it won't move. Reception, for me, is fine.
Back of unit. Cleaner than many - Note On many of these units the can-bus plugs into the back. I have been told that that makes fit difficult because of the amount of wires back there. The can-bus came off a pigtail on the mail unit and was easily tucked out of the way.
Another pic of the back of the unit - Note the white input plug under the antenna in. Those were for the RCA connectors for pre-amps. It wasn't needed it this install, the factory harness took care of everything, left those pigtails out.
Top with wiring diagram - All I did was remove the screws and plug it in, I didn't have to refer to any wiring. I will say I had trouble getting the adapter to line up with the factory plug. I almost broke the harness side. Not sure why it was so hard to align, but eventually it did.
Climate controls moved to the lower spot -Here are the climate controls moved into the lower section. I got a used navigation bracket off eBay for $20. The lighter clips were broken on one side, but not off. I had to use a cable tie to "lock" it in. If I had caught that before install, I would have swapped the lighter for a USB
Unit Installed
Radio Screen
Bluetooth Phone Screen
System Screen - Originally this was on a July MCU release, when I went into the about screen, it offered an update. An old ROM was on the Nav Card, and I overwrote the newer ROM with the older version. I sent the vendor a message to see if they can send me the link to the newer one. That said, I am not having an issue with this one.
Here is a walkthrough of it live. The video stops when I use bluetooth, not because of the headunit, but my phone stopped recording when making a call.
https://youtu.be/Vtv2tJte5oQ
All said and done I am very happy with this unit based after installation. I have been reading many people who have issues, so maybe I got a "good" one, or maybe issues are yet to come. If you have any questions, fire away.
Well it was great for 2 hours. Screen is unresponsive now. Any suggestions...
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Sorry I cannot help with the unresponsive screen, but I have a question
For the few hours you enjoyed it, how was the display in direct sunlight?
-=Jeff=- said:
Sorry I cannot help with the unresponsive screen, but I have a question
For the few hours you enjoyed it, how was the display in direct sunlight?
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It was ok, this morning driving to work their was a good bit of glare, but still very readable. I will try it with the top down and see what it can take would assume that would wash it out.
Pretty sure a matte screen protector would solve any issues with glare. Something like this should do for my screen
http://www.staples.com/Iessentials-...ctor-For-7-inch-8-inch-Tablets/product_210060
I have a car with a targa roof.. I tried a matte protector with my newsmy NU3001 and it did not help. I really like the idea of the Touch screen UI but I think I am out of luck for seeing it on the screen. I have a MTCD unit too but have not tried it yet.
Video of operation w/o working screen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lGyAQ0rZlg
Pattond said:
Video of operation w/o working screen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lGyAQ0rZlg
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Have you tried to reflash the unit? Factory ROM for you unit should be available somewhere on the forum. It looks like it lost touch calibration.
f1x said:
Have you tried to reflash the unit? Factory ROM for you unit should be available somewhere on the forum. It looks like it lost touch calibration.
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I thought that was exactly what happened. I reflashed both ROM and DMCU, but didn't help. The vendor sent my video over to his engineer and they are going to get back with me today. I am thinking its a physically problem with the screen like something worked its way loose or the heat of the day effected it.
System Re-Flash from recovery mode.
I just went into recovery mode and did a full reflash again hoping it gives some information about what is happening. I videoed it, and it will (in about an hour) be available here. https://youtu.be/9Q70WxcMzzg Warning beginning to end its 8:21. May be of use to someone trying to understand how to get into recovery mode and reflash
I went ahead and typed the messages on the screen after selecting "Update system/mcu image from sdcard and clear all" all the text that followed is below. I see an error came up in parsing the backup, not sure if that effects the loading or not, it seems to be running the same
__ Update rkimage...
Installation rkimage start.
Finding update package.
===UPDATE RKIMAGE===
Find and check firmware...
!!! Please KEEP your USB cable or DC-in connected !!!
Check parameter...
Update recovery.img...
Check recovery.img...
Update boot.img...
Check boot.img...
Update misc.img...
Check misc.img...
Update kernel.img...
Check kernel.img...
Update system...
Check system...
Update oem.img...
Check oem.img...
Update backup...
Check backup...
E:1 parse errors
Handle script error! ignore...
Copy Bootloader...
Installation complete.
Update rkimage complete.
Installation rkimage success.
Formatting /data...
Formatting /cache...
Formatting /mnt/internal_sd...
Installation mcuimg start
Installation mcuimg aborted
Installation mcuimg start
-----MCU Version :V1.66a
-----MCU customer : KD
Installation mcuimg success.
System will now power off/
Rebooting...
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The vendor got with his engineer and is pretty sure it is the touch screen itself that is the issue, not the software (I was thinking the same thing). Their guess is the cable has somehow worked loose and want me to open the unit and check the cable connections. He sent me a photo of what to look for (below). Any recommendations/warnings before taking this thing apart tonight?
Thanks, this thread may be too much me, but if someone else is having the same issues, I want to make sure there is somewhere they can look for troubleshooting and hopefully an eventual solution.
BTW, so far vendor communication has been really good.
Hi, have you been able to fix it? I'm thinking of getting the exact same head unit (as opposed to universal one with all the extras I would need, like fascia, cage, harness)
schriss said:
Hi, have you been able to fix it? I'm thinking of getting the exact same head unit (as opposed to universal one with all the extras I would need, like fascia, cage, harness)
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Mailed I back, they received today and are returning a new unit. Will update when it arrives
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I got an update from the vendor, and the issue was a touchscreen cable worked loose. Absolutely a problem with the assembly in China, and probably something I could have fixed if I was skilled in electronic repair. My new unit is on the way here.
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I should be getting mine delivered tomorrow, hopefully no loose cables
Are there any benefits buying a eonon unit compared to this one? Are they from the same factory you think? The new eonon has Bluetooth 4 compared to others? How can that be if they are all from the same manufacturer?
I suspect they all come from same factory, Eonon, Joying or no brand - the only difference seems to be the software.
I'm quite happy with my "generic" unit, so far so good. But didn't test bluetooth more than just paired with my phone, no calls yet or any obd2 readers used.
My main use is navigation and that seems fine, but my phone seems to be getting a bit more accurate gps lock according to gps test apps.
PattonD, have you tried a Bluetooth call? How was it? Did you use the internal mic or an external?
One of the most important features for me...
The unit you bought is very interesting.
I got the unit. I tried the unit at home. Internal mic seems fine.
However, how is the reverse camera installed? Is reverse signal coming from the canbus system or must i cut the brown cable (cable 8, back car cable) and connect it to the reverse lights?
it is the plug
I'm not really sure what you mean mate

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