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Hi,
I was sure that the dual camera setup on this phone is that one camera has a wide angle at 27mm, and the second camera is a telephoto (zoom) at 52mm.
I was also sure that clicking the x1/x2 zoom button on the camera app will switch between the cameras, based on the mentioned above...but it doesnt.
Ive tried covering the left camera with my finger, and clicking the zoom button, and it still uses the camera on the right for both x1 and x2 zoom.
What am I missing here?
ferez said:
Hi,
I was sure that the dual camera setup on this phone is that one camera has a wide angle at 27mm, and the second camera is a telephoto (zoom) at 52mm.
I was also sure that clicking the x1/x2 zoom button on the camera app will switch between the cameras, based on the mentioned above...but it doesnt.
Ive tried covering the left camera with my finger, and clicking the zoom button, and it still uses the camera on the right for both x1 and x2 zoom.
What am I missing here?
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What rom do you use?
dromaczek said:
What rom do you use?
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Stock MIUI Global 9.5.3.0 (7.1.1)
ferez said:
What am I missing here?
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Enough light then the secondary camera will be used for 2x zoom. Otherwise, it's always the main camera. You can test it using manual mode to ensure that the secondary camera really works. It surely is used in portrait mode, it can't be processed instantly otherwise.
leledumbo said:
Enough light then the secondary camera will be used for 2x zoom. Otherwise, it's always the main camera. You can test it using manual mode to ensure that the secondary camera really works. It surely is used in portrait mode, it can't be processed instantly otherwise.
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So if there is enough light, the zoom is optical, otherwise the zoom is digital?
ferez said:
So if there is enough light, the zoom is optical, otherwise the zoom is digital?
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You can say so. The telephoto lens ****ty pixel size and dark aperture really suck in low light.
guys,dial *#*#1597#*#* and switch to the second camera...click the photo,check the resolution.. isn't it 2592x1940 (5mp) ... it's strange because the secondary camera is of 20mp and I am getting 5mp.
Mine is 3456x4608
Edit: sorry, I did not switch to the second camera, how do I do that?
rmaathuis said:
Mine is 3456x4608
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switch to lens BACK(2). double tap to switch the camera.
Ok, did that and indeed it's 2592x1940
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rmaathuis said:
Ok, did that and indeed it's 2592x1940
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okay... isn't the secondary camera of 20mp..why does it click photos in 5mp???oneplus ?
Yep the same. Pretty weird. But the image doesn't look like 5 MP though
Wow this is some major scoop! You're indeed right, also to support your findings, the OP6 brother, the OPPO R15, has the same primary 16MP IMX519 sensor and a 5MP secondary sensors only for depth informations.
This could be a camera-gate beginning for OP! It needs deeper investigation
zonzo3 said:
Wow this is some major scoop! You're indeed right, also to support your findings, the OP6 brother, the OPPO R15, has the same primary 16MP IMX519 sensor and a 5MP secondary sensors only for depth informations.
This could be a camera-gate beginning for OP! It needs deeper investigation
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that can't be a co-incidence. i am gonna post about this in oneplus forum. let everyone know about this.
For me the primary camera is at 15.9MP and the portrait camera is at 14.2MP.
Correction: The photos made with primary camera are at 15.9 and the portrait mode ones are at 14.2MP.
neohq said:
For me the primary camera is at 15.9MP and the portrait camera is at 14.2MP.
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you mean portrait photos??the resolution is 15.9 mp for portrait photos too.
The portrait photo is also made with the primary camera, helped by the secondary camera.
If I cover the secondary camera I see a message on screen and bokeh effect is gone.
@aneesh12 Yes, I meant the photos.
neohq said:
The portrait photo is also made with the primary camera, helped by the secondary camera.
If I cover the secondary camera I see a message on screen and bokeh effect is gone.
@aneesh12 Yes, I meant the photos.
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yeah... that's how all the process works. but you said the portrait photos are 14.2mp for you which is not the same for me...i am getting 15.9mp photos. i am sorry if i got you wrong again
Another thing, the pictures taken with the secondary camera capture so much more light when shooting in really (really) dark places. Try it and let me know.
I think maybe it's the same secondary sensor used in the OP5T, the Sony IMX 376k, which is a 20MP sensor that via software does a pixel interpolation to "create" bigger pixels and capture more light.
However it's a cheap move to use this sensor only for depth informations
zonzo3 said:
Another thing, the pictures taken with the secondary camera capture so much more light when shooting in really (really) dark places. Try it and let me know.
I think maybe it's the same secondary sensor used in the OP5T, the Sony IMX 376k, which is a 20MP sensor that via software does a pixel interpolation to "create" bigger pixels and capture more light.
However it's a cheap move to use this sensor only for depth informations
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I'll try the second camera on op5t nd will see the resolution.
guys, what's the use of second camera anyways??? I've covered the second lens,still the photos came out as same as when the lens wasn't covered.
@aneesh12
For the depth of field effect/bokeh, portrait photos.
neohq said:
@aneesh12
For the depth of field effect/bokeh, portrait photos.
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they could have gone for 5mp depth sensing camera then. why to waste 20mp for that. oneplus 5's camera was very well implemented. that optical zoom was actually useful and handy.
aneesh12 said:
guys, what's the use of second camera anyways??? I've covered the second lens,still the photos came out as same as when the lens wasn't covered.
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You have to double tap to change camera then you will see camera(2) instead of camera(0)
vitotteng said:
You have to double tap to change camera then you will see camera(2) instead of camera(0)
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that is exactly what i said in the 3rd post. you didn't get what i said.
Could it be due to a software config, like using pixel binning to increase sensitivity in the dark?
Hi,
So the Nokia 7 plus is supposed to have a Secondary telephoto lens for 2x optical zoom. But there is no way(not that I am aware of) in the Nokia camera app to use that lens.
There is a button for 2x zoom in the camera interface. But when you click that the secondary camera is not used. It is digitally zooms with the primary lens.
I was curious if the telephoto lens is actually being used or not, so i clicked different pictures with 1x and 2x zoom and when I compared the info of the pictures, both the 1x as well as 2x pictures were using the same 12.2MP/f1.8 lens.
simpler confirmation, switch 2x button and put your thumb on second lens
This makes the secondary lens just a decoration if you can't use it. (unless for the portrait shots, which I don't think is very convenient, but that's another story).
Am I missing something here? Is there a way to use the optical zoom features or is Nokia missing so something.
I have attached pictures I took.
spark25 said:
[...]I was curious if the telephoto lens is actually being used or not[...]
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btw:simpler confirmation, switch 2x button and put your thumb on second lens
spark25 said:
Hi,
So the Nokia 7 plus is supposed to have a Secondary telephoto lens for 2x optical zoom. But there is no way(not that I am aware of) in the Nokia camera app to use that lens.
There is a button for 2x zoom in the camera interface. But when you click that the secondary camera is not used. It is digitally zooms with the primary lens.
I was curious if the telephoto lens is actually being used or not, so i clicked different pictures with 1x and 2x zoom and when I compared the info of the pictures, both the 1x as well as 2x pictures were using the same 12.2MP/f1.8 lens.
This makes the secondary lens just a decoration if you can't use it. (unless for the portrait shots, which I don't think is very convenient, but that's another story).
Am I missing something here? Is there a way to use the optical zoom features or is Nokia missing so something.
I have attached pictures I took.
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It indeed uses second lens when you click 1x button. The metadata is added by camera software. If what you say is true, it's just a bug in the camera software where it just stamps the first lens info on all photos.
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fornix said:
It indeed uses second lens when you click 1x button. The metadata is added by camera software. If what you say is true, it's just a bug in the camera software where it just stamps the first lens info on all photos.
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@spark25 The camera app has been using only the primary camera for me since I bought the device, and 2x mode is digital zoom. Even in the latest camera update. The only place where telephoto activates is the portrait (bokeh) mode.
Maybe they will utilize it in Pie, as it includes multi-camera api so there could be smooth transition between the two camera streams.
Edit: It does use the telephoto camera lens when there is a good lighting.
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fornix said:
It indeed uses second lens when you click 1x button. The metadata is added by camera software. If what you say is true, it's just a bug in the camera software where it just stamps the first lens info on all photos.
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Try putting your thumb on the secondary lens when zooming.
k3dar7 said:
btw:simpler confirmation, switch 2x button and put your thumb on second lens
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Yes, and more solid confirmation :highfive:
Noisy shots on bokeh mode
Can someone confirm if pictures taken from the bokeh mode turn out too noisy and pixelated? The picture is very grainy and loses everything on zooming in.
The tele Lens only activates under certain conditions, when it can focus on far objects with good lighting otherwise it will use the normal lens with smaller aperture.
The secondary camera only works under certain conditions and I can confirm that if you your place the finger in front of it it just digitally zooms. It probably works only in good lighting.
spark25 said:
Hi,
So the Nokia 7 plus is supposed to have a Secondary telephoto lens for 2x optical zoom. But there is no way(not that I am aware of) in the Nokia camera app to use that lens.
There is a button for 2x zoom in the camera interface. But when you click that the secondary camera is not used. It is digitally zooms with the primary lens.
I was curious if the telephoto lens is actually being used or not, so i clicked different pictures with 1x and 2x zoom and when I compared the info of the pictures, both the 1x as well as 2x pictures were using the same 12.2MP/f1.8 lens.
simpler confirmation, switch 2x button and put your thumb on second lens
This makes the secondary lens just a decoration if you can't use it. (unless for the portrait shots, which I don't think is very convenient, but that's another story).
Am I missing something here? Is there a way to use the optical zoom features or is Nokia missing so something.
I have attached pictures I took.
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The 2x Tele Lens only works when there's a good amount of light is available. (Since, photos taken with 2x Lens is bad at dark)
However, there's a trick that works sometimes:
Point your camera with with 2x Zoom at a bright white spot(area) or a bright white wall, the software will automatically switch into 2x Tele lens.
Keep in mind, using 2x Lens at dark doesn't give good results. The photos quality is worse at dark with 2x Lens (because of grainy and dark pictures)
When I switch the 3x zoom it's not sharp at all and very grainy, if it optical it's supposed be very sharp,
Is anyone else having an issue with the 3x zoom on the camera ?
watchnj said:
When I switch the 3x zoom it's not sharp at all and very grainy, if it optical it's supposed be very sharp,
Is anyone else having an issue with the 3x zoom on the camera ?
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Optical
Vanhoud said:
Optical
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Do you have any quality issues using it ?
It's only an 8MP sensor
Did you take a pic? I've noticed that once I get to 6-8x the camera looks super grainy, but when you slide the brightness up or down it tends to make it better, and once the pic is shot the grain goes away and it looks like a normal picture.
Can't upload pics rn for some reason but the 3x looks slightly better than 2.9x with the main camera.
explosivequack said:
Did you take a pic? I've noticed that once I get to 6-8x the camera looks super grainy, but when you slide the brightness up or down it tends to make it better, and once the pic is shot the grain goes away and it looks like a normal picture.
Can't upload pics rn for some reason but the 3x looks slightly better than 2.9x with the main camera.
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So the camera uses digital drop for 2.2-2.9x zoom?
It is a 2.2x optical system and it takes a "3x zoom" lossless crop out of the taken image, leaving an 8mp resulting image.
So I just received my OP 7 Pro. I love it to this point, though I am still evaluating whether I can adjust to the curved screen. But my question is about the telephoto lens:
We know that the lens is actually a 12 MP 2.2x telephoto lens. The 8 MP 3x pictures the OP camera app produces is a bit of cropping and software zooming. Is there a way - either in the OP camera app itself, GCAM, or some other trick to use the lens as it is actually a designed? A 12 MP telephoto picture at 2.2x zoom?
Thanks...
its an 8 megapixel telephoto lens
sille said:
its an 8 megapixel telephoto lens
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i found this issue discussed in several articles: (I can't post a link yet since I'm new, but searching for this should get you there and explain what I'm talking about...
androidpolice.com the-oneplus-7-pros-telephoto-lens-isnt-actually-3x-optical-zoom 2019/05/23
sille said:
its an 8 megapixel telephoto lens
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It crops the 12mp/2.2x zoom image to output an equivalent 8mp/3x zoom image. Just look at the differences in zoom between the portrait mode and the regular "3x" zoom option. Both are using the same lens.
t2jbird said:
It crops the 12mp/2.2x zoom image to output an equivalent 8mp/3x zoom image. Just look at the differences in zoom between the portrait mode and the regular "3x" zoom option. Both are using the same lens.
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And hence my question. Is there a way to capture the true 12 mp 2.2x zoom image without the OP "magic" of making it 3x zoom. Maybe I'd prefer to crop to a different area of the 12 mp photo?
Just wondering. But I'd like maximum flexibility in camera shooting options...
I know that it will be 2.2x with gcam, or with portrait mode in the oneplus app. I haven't used gcam for a while so I can't find you the latest links and downloads. But hope this info would help