When I switch the 3x zoom it's not sharp at all and very grainy, if it optical it's supposed be very sharp,
Is anyone else having an issue with the 3x zoom on the camera ?
watchnj said:
When I switch the 3x zoom it's not sharp at all and very grainy, if it optical it's supposed be very sharp,
Is anyone else having an issue with the 3x zoom on the camera ?
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Do you have any quality issues using it ?
It's only an 8MP sensor
Did you take a pic? I've noticed that once I get to 6-8x the camera looks super grainy, but when you slide the brightness up or down it tends to make it better, and once the pic is shot the grain goes away and it looks like a normal picture.
Can't upload pics rn for some reason but the 3x looks slightly better than 2.9x with the main camera.
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Did you take a pic? I've noticed that once I get to 6-8x the camera looks super grainy, but when you slide the brightness up or down it tends to make it better, and once the pic is shot the grain goes away and it looks like a normal picture.
Can't upload pics rn for some reason but the 3x looks slightly better than 2.9x with the main camera.
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So the camera uses digital drop for 2.2-2.9x zoom?
It is a 2.2x optical system and it takes a "3x zoom" lossless crop out of the taken image, leaving an 8mp resulting image.
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Hi Guys,
I asked myself how the zoom on my Z3 should work.
As far as I know, the Z3 can Zoom into the sensor while taking 8mpix pictures.
While I tried it, it seemed to me that the quality gets really bad.
I was guessing that the indicator on the left is the indicator which separates digital zoom from the sensor-zoom.
As far as I thought the light grey indicator-bar shows the part which is the sensor zoom and the dark part is the digital zoom.
Considering the quality it seems to me that both modes are digital zoom. The picture looks really annoying while i use it.
I just thought maybe I'm doing something wrong - has anyone an idea how I can improve this or use it right or or or...
Regards,
Matthias
I didn't know about the 8mp restriction, i also tested it out in the shop, but in 20mp mode. The sections looked identical. However, as the sensor is not at it's limits at 8mp, i guess it could take a higher resolution and crop it to 8mp size at the zoomed in section.
Auto mode enables you to use the camera's Clear Zoom feature, which produces good-looking, lossless-like digital zoom.
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the image is stretched by the software, which then attempts to fill in the blanks as best as it can. Well, thanks to the giant sensors on the Nokia Lumia 1020 and Sony Xperia Z1/Z1 Compact, zoom is no longer a problem. But instead of opting for bulky zoom lens (Galaxy S4 Zoom), they both rely on their massive resolution in order to get what we call 'lossless' zoom.
So what's lossless zoom, then? In simple terms, it means that zooming into a scene will only result in a negligible loss in quality. Think of it this way: there are so many pixels available with a camera like the one on the 1020 that you can 'crop' any part of the photo and still have more than enough pixels for a full-sized photo that will appear zoomed in. No upscaling, and no loss of quality. But how does it work in practice?
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More info about everything
http://www.phonearena.com/news/What...-work-in-the-Lumia-1020-and-Xperia-Z1_id52198
So conclusion is, it is all digital zoom
electrash said:
More info about everything
http://www.phonearena.com/news/What...-work-in-the-Lumia-1020-and-Xperia-Z1_id52198
So conclusion is, it is all digital zoom
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Okay, it is something like digital zoom. But I think, the quality while zooming into an 8mpix picture should not be worse in quality (depending on the zoom factor) than the 20mpix picture.
When I take a 8 mpix picture, I assume that the image processor will take it in 20mpix and shrink it down to 8.
And what I would like to see is that
I could zoom in and it will just move into the sensor to a 1:1 size.
Another thing : while using the video mode, the stabilizer does an amazing job.
What about the photo-mode? I can't see any stabilisation there.
Since I only take 8mpi pictures, I guess the picture-frame could also be panned around the 20m of the sensor...
Regards,
Matthias
Maeffjus said:
Okay, it is something like digital zoom. But I think, the quality while zooming into an 8mpix picture should not be worse in quality (depending on the zoom factor) than the 20mpix picture.
When I take a 8 mpix picture, I assume that the image processor will take it in 20mpix and shrink it down to 8.
And what I would like to see is that
I could zoom in and it will just move into the sensor to a 1:1 size.
Another thing : while using the video mode, the stabilizer does an amazing job.
What about the photo-mode? I can't see any stabilisation there.
Since I only take 8mpi pictures, I guess the picture-frame could also be panned around the 20m of the sensor...
Regards,
Matthias
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In SA mode, phone take oversampled photo (which means he take 21mp, but he make HD pixel (one pixel combine colors from neibghours)... so when you take 8mpx it takes 20mp ovesampled.
When you zoom in, it will take more and more neibhours pixel to combine in one, so that means loseless.
Hello, I've been an XDA lurker for a while, starting with my Galaxy S4. I just recently got a OnePlus 6, and love it so far, but this one problem is kind of irritating me.
When using the front camera (both in the camera app when not set to 4:3, and third party apps like snapchat), the picture looks very zoomed in). I'm guessing its because any other ratio is just a cropped version of 4:3.
The only way I can think to fix this is to force a different ratio for the camera to use, but I'm not sure if that is even possible.
Anyone else have this type of problem? Help would be much appreciated.
I think its because the lense has a higher focal length... Nothing to do with ratio.
So is there any way to work around this so that the front image isn't so zoomed in?
For video? It's because of their stabilization
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For video? It's because of their stabilization
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I mean in the pictures. Like if you're taking a selfie, the viewfinder shows the image as very zoomed in (like your face covers the image if you're a normal distance away), and the picture is taken like that.
When you shoot with 4:3 you have all the picture of the sensor. When you shoot with 16:9 or other you don't use all the sensor but it crops the image to be in that ratio. And you see the zoom. Take a picture with 4:3 and zoom with your fingers to see a picture of 16:9 shot. It's the same.
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Hi,
So the Nokia 7 plus is supposed to have a Secondary telephoto lens for 2x optical zoom. But there is no way(not that I am aware of) in the Nokia camera app to use that lens.
There is a button for 2x zoom in the camera interface. But when you click that the secondary camera is not used. It is digitally zooms with the primary lens.
I was curious if the telephoto lens is actually being used or not, so i clicked different pictures with 1x and 2x zoom and when I compared the info of the pictures, both the 1x as well as 2x pictures were using the same 12.2MP/f1.8 lens.
simpler confirmation, switch 2x button and put your thumb on second lens
This makes the secondary lens just a decoration if you can't use it. (unless for the portrait shots, which I don't think is very convenient, but that's another story).
Am I missing something here? Is there a way to use the optical zoom features or is Nokia missing so something.
I have attached pictures I took.
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[...]I was curious if the telephoto lens is actually being used or not[...]
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btw:simpler confirmation, switch 2x button and put your thumb on second lens
spark25 said:
Hi,
So the Nokia 7 plus is supposed to have a Secondary telephoto lens for 2x optical zoom. But there is no way(not that I am aware of) in the Nokia camera app to use that lens.
There is a button for 2x zoom in the camera interface. But when you click that the secondary camera is not used. It is digitally zooms with the primary lens.
I was curious if the telephoto lens is actually being used or not, so i clicked different pictures with 1x and 2x zoom and when I compared the info of the pictures, both the 1x as well as 2x pictures were using the same 12.2MP/f1.8 lens.
This makes the secondary lens just a decoration if you can't use it. (unless for the portrait shots, which I don't think is very convenient, but that's another story).
Am I missing something here? Is there a way to use the optical zoom features or is Nokia missing so something.
I have attached pictures I took.
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It indeed uses second lens when you click 1x button. The metadata is added by camera software. If what you say is true, it's just a bug in the camera software where it just stamps the first lens info on all photos.
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fornix said:
It indeed uses second lens when you click 1x button. The metadata is added by camera software. If what you say is true, it's just a bug in the camera software where it just stamps the first lens info on all photos.
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@spark25 The camera app has been using only the primary camera for me since I bought the device, and 2x mode is digital zoom. Even in the latest camera update. The only place where telephoto activates is the portrait (bokeh) mode.
Maybe they will utilize it in Pie, as it includes multi-camera api so there could be smooth transition between the two camera streams.
Edit: It does use the telephoto camera lens when there is a good lighting.
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fornix said:
It indeed uses second lens when you click 1x button. The metadata is added by camera software. If what you say is true, it's just a bug in the camera software where it just stamps the first lens info on all photos.
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Try putting your thumb on the secondary lens when zooming.
k3dar7 said:
btw:simpler confirmation, switch 2x button and put your thumb on second lens
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Yes, and more solid confirmation :highfive:
Noisy shots on bokeh mode
Can someone confirm if pictures taken from the bokeh mode turn out too noisy and pixelated? The picture is very grainy and loses everything on zooming in.
The tele Lens only activates under certain conditions, when it can focus on far objects with good lighting otherwise it will use the normal lens with smaller aperture.
The secondary camera only works under certain conditions and I can confirm that if you your place the finger in front of it it just digitally zooms. It probably works only in good lighting.
spark25 said:
Hi,
So the Nokia 7 plus is supposed to have a Secondary telephoto lens for 2x optical zoom. But there is no way(not that I am aware of) in the Nokia camera app to use that lens.
There is a button for 2x zoom in the camera interface. But when you click that the secondary camera is not used. It is digitally zooms with the primary lens.
I was curious if the telephoto lens is actually being used or not, so i clicked different pictures with 1x and 2x zoom and when I compared the info of the pictures, both the 1x as well as 2x pictures were using the same 12.2MP/f1.8 lens.
simpler confirmation, switch 2x button and put your thumb on second lens
This makes the secondary lens just a decoration if you can't use it. (unless for the portrait shots, which I don't think is very convenient, but that's another story).
Am I missing something here? Is there a way to use the optical zoom features or is Nokia missing so something.
I have attached pictures I took.
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The 2x Tele Lens only works when there's a good amount of light is available. (Since, photos taken with 2x Lens is bad at dark)
However, there's a trick that works sometimes:
Point your camera with with 2x Zoom at a bright white spot(area) or a bright white wall, the software will automatically switch into 2x Tele lens.
Keep in mind, using 2x Lens at dark doesn't give good results. The photos quality is worse at dark with 2x Lens (because of grainy and dark pictures)
Hi everyone!
Which resolution do you use, 12 mpx or 20 mpx? 12mpx gives you hybrid zoom x2 but phone only uses rgb lens, while 20mpx supposedly uses both lenses to create a hybrid colour/b&w pic. So which do you use? I have it on 12mpx in order to use zoom but don't really know which is best.
Cheers!
It actually depends on your preference and the situation you want to create in the photo. I use the 20mp when shooting wide angle landscapes, while im using the 12mp when shooting portraits or closeups
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It actually depends on your preference and the situation you want to create in the photo. I use the 20mp when shooting wide angle landscapes, while im using the 12mp when shooting portraits or closeups
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Thanks for replying! I've actually found that shooting a normal close up pic on 12mpx shoots in kind of a wide-angle effect. Last friday celebrating carnival at school, I was able to fit in a whole class of 28 kids from a few feet away. If u look at the pic, it looks like it has been shot on a wide-angle lens!
Any more opinions on camera config are more than welcome!
I don't believe that the 20MPx option uses both cameras. When you partially cover the B&W sensor, there is no noticable effect on the photo. Looks like it is only software based up-scaling and may get you jagged edges sometimes. After some testing with 20MPx and then 20MPx resized to 12MPx just for comparison, I prefer the 12MPx default setting.
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I don't believe that the 20MPx option uses both cameras. When you partially cover the B&W sensor, there is no noticable effect on the photo. Looks like it is only software based up-scaling and may get you jagged edges sometimes. After some testing with 20MPx and then 20MPx resized to 12MPx just for comparison, I prefer the 12MPx default setting.
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Hi Marian, thanks for your reply!
So on a phone with a dual camera, what would be the purpose of the dual lens?? If one is rgb and the other monocrome, don't they both work together to provide depth information and zoom? Or do all colour pics use just the one rgb lens and the other is exclusively for b&w pics?? Seems a little pointless to me...
You are totally right about the sw upscale to 20mp as any other camera app only detects a maximum resolution of 12 mp, but it seems strange to me that even on 12mp colour pictutes, the phone wouldn't use both lens (depth and zoom) because the inferior P20 Lite precisely doess that on all the reviews I read about it (I've always thought that was the point of all dual-lens cameras).
Cheers!
The B&W sensor should provide depth information. You can try different camera modes and cover the B&W sensor. The phone says "Please do not cover the lenses." in some camera modes. But if you don't put finger too close, nothing happens. I can't tell it does anything at all to the image quality which seems strange. Did they made some mistake in latest build? It only does have some effect on aperture mode when you can see heat haze effect on display. It sucks we don't have more options like jpg quality or sliders for post-process filters.
Hi new member here.
Is anyone else having issues with the camera on the s22 exynos? Just zooming in a little makes the camera so blurry and pixelated. The zoom on my friends s21 ultra is so much better which makes me think I may have a faulty device. I reset all settings in the camera app but that didn't improve anything.
Try a hard reboot and clear the system cache.
If the former solves it may still be a hardware issue if it keeps reoccurring.
AnneB1967 said:
Hi new member here.
Is anyone else having issues with the camera on the s22 exynos? Just zooming in a little makes the camera so blurry and pixelated. The zoom on my friends s21 ultra is so much better which makes me think I may have a faulty device. I reset all settings in the camera app but that didn't improve anything.
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How much are you zooming in? The camera is 10x optical. Anything beyond 10x is digital zoom which results in pixelated images. Digital zoom is nothing more than cropping the image. Also, as you zoom in, it makes it harder to hold the phone/camera steady; which can cause motion blur.
[COLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.870588235294118)]The camera is not 10x optical.The phone has a 10x lens where 10x mean 10 times the zoom of the main lens. And it has a 3x optical zoom (periscope lens, capable to 30x, referred to primary lens)
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How much are you zooming in? The camera is 10x optical. Anything beyond 10x is digital zoom which results in pixelated images. Digital zoom is nothing more than cropping the image. Also, as you zoom in, it makes it harder to hold the phone/camera steady; which can cause motion blur.
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[COLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.870588235294118)]The camera is not 10x optical.The phone has a 10x lens where 10x mean 10 times the zoom of the main lens. And it has a 3x optical zoom (periscope lens, capable to 30x, referred to primary lens)
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"10MP Telephoto Camera
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FOV: 11˚
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