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guys,dial *#*#1597#*#* and switch to the second camera...click the photo,check the resolution.. isn't it 2592x1940 (5mp) ... it's strange because the secondary camera is of 20mp and I am getting 5mp.

Mine is 3456x4608
Edit: sorry, I did not switch to the second camera, how do I do that?

rmaathuis said:
Mine is 3456x4608
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switch to lens BACK(2). double tap to switch the camera.

Ok, did that and indeed it's 2592x1940
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rmaathuis said:
Ok, did that and indeed it's 2592x1940
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okay... isn't the secondary camera of 20mp..why does it click photos in 5mp???oneplus ?

Yep the same. Pretty weird. But the image doesn't look like 5 MP though

Wow this is some major scoop! You're indeed right, also to support your findings, the OP6 brother, the OPPO R15, has the same primary 16MP IMX519 sensor and a 5MP secondary sensors only for depth informations.
This could be a camera-gate beginning for OP! It needs deeper investigation

zonzo3 said:
Wow this is some major scoop! You're indeed right, also to support your findings, the OP6 brother, the OPPO R15, has the same primary 16MP IMX519 sensor and a 5MP secondary sensors only for depth informations.
This could be a camera-gate beginning for OP! It needs deeper investigation
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that can't be a co-incidence. i am gonna post about this in oneplus forum. let everyone know about this.

For me the primary camera is at 15.9MP and the portrait camera is at 14.2MP.
Correction: The photos made with primary camera are at 15.9 and the portrait mode ones are at 14.2MP.

neohq said:
For me the primary camera is at 15.9MP and the portrait camera is at 14.2MP.
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you mean portrait photos??the resolution is 15.9 mp for portrait photos too.

The portrait photo is also made with the primary camera, helped by the secondary camera.
If I cover the secondary camera I see a message on screen and bokeh effect is gone.
@aneesh12 Yes, I meant the photos.

neohq said:
The portrait photo is also made with the primary camera, helped by the secondary camera.
If I cover the secondary camera I see a message on screen and bokeh effect is gone.
@aneesh12 Yes, I meant the photos.
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yeah... that's how all the process works. but you said the portrait photos are 14.2mp for you which is not the same for me...i am getting 15.9mp photos. i am sorry if i got you wrong again

Another thing, the pictures taken with the secondary camera capture so much more light when shooting in really (really) dark places. Try it and let me know.
I think maybe it's the same secondary sensor used in the OP5T, the Sony IMX 376k, which is a 20MP sensor that via software does a pixel interpolation to "create" bigger pixels and capture more light.
However it's a cheap move to use this sensor only for depth informations

zonzo3 said:
Another thing, the pictures taken with the secondary camera capture so much more light when shooting in really (really) dark places. Try it and let me know.
I think maybe it's the same secondary sensor used in the OP5T, the Sony IMX 376k, which is a 20MP sensor that via software does a pixel interpolation to "create" bigger pixels and capture more light.
However it's a cheap move to use this sensor only for depth informations
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I'll try the second camera on op5t nd will see the resolution.

guys, what's the use of second camera anyways??? I've covered the second lens,still the photos came out as same as when the lens wasn't covered.

@aneesh12
For the depth of field effect/bokeh, portrait photos.

neohq said:
@aneesh12
For the depth of field effect/bokeh, portrait photos.
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they could have gone for 5mp depth sensing camera then. why to waste 20mp for that. oneplus 5's camera was very well implemented. that optical zoom was actually useful and handy.

aneesh12 said:
guys, what's the use of second camera anyways??? I've covered the second lens,still the photos came out as same as when the lens wasn't covered.
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You have to double tap to change camera then you will see camera(2) instead of camera(0)

vitotteng said:
You have to double tap to change camera then you will see camera(2) instead of camera(0)
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that is exactly what i said in the 3rd post. you didn't get what i said.

Could it be due to a software config, like using pixel binning to increase sensitivity in the dark?

Nokia 7 Plus not using Telephoto lens for zoomed images

Hi,
So the Nokia 7 plus is supposed to have a Secondary telephoto lens for 2x optical zoom. But there is no way(not that I am aware of) in the Nokia camera app to use that lens.
There is a button for 2x zoom in the camera interface. But when you click that the secondary camera is not used. It is digitally zooms with the primary lens.
I was curious if the telephoto lens is actually being used or not, so i clicked different pictures with 1x and 2x zoom and when I compared the info of the pictures, both the 1x as well as 2x pictures were using the same 12.2MP/f1.8 lens.
simpler confirmation, switch 2x button and put your thumb on second lens
This makes the secondary lens just a decoration if you can't use it. (unless for the portrait shots, which I don't think is very convenient, but that's another story).
Am I missing something here? Is there a way to use the optical zoom features or is Nokia missing so something.
I have attached pictures I took.

spark25 said:
[...]I was curious if the telephoto lens is actually being used or not[...]
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btw:simpler confirmation, switch 2x button and put your thumb on second lens

spark25 said:
Hi,
So the Nokia 7 plus is supposed to have a Secondary telephoto lens for 2x optical zoom. But there is no way(not that I am aware of) in the Nokia camera app to use that lens.
There is a button for 2x zoom in the camera interface. But when you click that the secondary camera is not used. It is digitally zooms with the primary lens.
I was curious if the telephoto lens is actually being used or not, so i clicked different pictures with 1x and 2x zoom and when I compared the info of the pictures, both the 1x as well as 2x pictures were using the same 12.2MP/f1.8 lens.
This makes the secondary lens just a decoration if you can't use it. (unless for the portrait shots, which I don't think is very convenient, but that's another story).
Am I missing something here? Is there a way to use the optical zoom features or is Nokia missing so something.
I have attached pictures I took.
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It indeed uses second lens when you click 1x button. The metadata is added by camera software. If what you say is true, it's just a bug in the camera software where it just stamps the first lens info on all photos.
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fornix said:
It indeed uses second lens when you click 1x button. The metadata is added by camera software. If what you say is true, it's just a bug in the camera software where it just stamps the first lens info on all photos.
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@spark25 The camera app has been using only the primary camera for me since I bought the device, and 2x mode is digital zoom. Even in the latest camera update. The only place where telephoto activates is the portrait (bokeh) mode.
Maybe they will utilize it in Pie, as it includes multi-camera api so there could be smooth transition between the two camera streams.
Edit: It does use the telephoto camera lens when there is a good lighting.
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fornix said:
It indeed uses second lens when you click 1x button. The metadata is added by camera software. If what you say is true, it's just a bug in the camera software where it just stamps the first lens info on all photos.
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Try putting your thumb on the secondary lens when zooming.

k3dar7 said:
btw:simpler confirmation, switch 2x button and put your thumb on second lens
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Yes, and more solid confirmation :highfive:

Noisy shots on bokeh mode
Can someone confirm if pictures taken from the bokeh mode turn out too noisy and pixelated? The picture is very grainy and loses everything on zooming in.

The tele Lens only activates under certain conditions, when it can focus on far objects with good lighting otherwise it will use the normal lens with smaller aperture.

The secondary camera only works under certain conditions and I can confirm that if you your place the finger in front of it it just digitally zooms. It probably works only in good lighting.

spark25 said:
Hi,
So the Nokia 7 plus is supposed to have a Secondary telephoto lens for 2x optical zoom. But there is no way(not that I am aware of) in the Nokia camera app to use that lens.
There is a button for 2x zoom in the camera interface. But when you click that the secondary camera is not used. It is digitally zooms with the primary lens.
I was curious if the telephoto lens is actually being used or not, so i clicked different pictures with 1x and 2x zoom and when I compared the info of the pictures, both the 1x as well as 2x pictures were using the same 12.2MP/f1.8 lens.
simpler confirmation, switch 2x button and put your thumb on second lens
This makes the secondary lens just a decoration if you can't use it. (unless for the portrait shots, which I don't think is very convenient, but that's another story).
Am I missing something here? Is there a way to use the optical zoom features or is Nokia missing so something.
I have attached pictures I took.
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The 2x Tele Lens only works when there's a good amount of light is available. (Since, photos taken with 2x Lens is bad at dark)
However, there's a trick that works sometimes:
Point your camera with with 2x Zoom at a bright white spot(area) or a bright white wall, the software will automatically switch into 2x Tele lens.
Keep in mind, using 2x Lens at dark doesn't give good results. The photos quality is worse at dark with 2x Lens (because of grainy and dark pictures)

Best photo resolution

Hi everyone!
Which resolution do you use, 12 mpx or 20 mpx? 12mpx gives you hybrid zoom x2 but phone only uses rgb lens, while 20mpx supposedly uses both lenses to create a hybrid colour/b&w pic. So which do you use? I have it on 12mpx in order to use zoom but don't really know which is best.
Cheers!

It actually depends on your preference and the situation you want to create in the photo. I use the 20mp when shooting wide angle landscapes, while im using the 12mp when shooting portraits or closeups

earl_110 said:
It actually depends on your preference and the situation you want to create in the photo. I use the 20mp when shooting wide angle landscapes, while im using the 12mp when shooting portraits or closeups
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Thanks for replying! I've actually found that shooting a normal close up pic on 12mpx shoots in kind of a wide-angle effect. Last friday celebrating carnival at school, I was able to fit in a whole class of 28 kids from a few feet away. If u look at the pic, it looks like it has been shot on a wide-angle lens!

Any more opinions on camera config are more than welcome!

I don't believe that the 20MPx option uses both cameras. When you partially cover the B&W sensor, there is no noticable effect on the photo. Looks like it is only software based up-scaling and may get you jagged edges sometimes. After some testing with 20MPx and then 20MPx resized to 12MPx just for comparison, I prefer the 12MPx default setting.

_Marian_ said:
I don't believe that the 20MPx option uses both cameras. When you partially cover the B&W sensor, there is no noticable effect on the photo. Looks like it is only software based up-scaling and may get you jagged edges sometimes. After some testing with 20MPx and then 20MPx resized to 12MPx just for comparison, I prefer the 12MPx default setting.
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Hi Marian, thanks for your reply!
So on a phone with a dual camera, what would be the purpose of the dual lens?? If one is rgb and the other monocrome, don't they both work together to provide depth information and zoom? Or do all colour pics use just the one rgb lens and the other is exclusively for b&w pics?? Seems a little pointless to me...
You are totally right about the sw upscale to 20mp as any other camera app only detects a maximum resolution of 12 mp, but it seems strange to me that even on 12mp colour pictutes, the phone wouldn't use both lens (depth and zoom) because the inferior P20 Lite precisely doess that on all the reviews I read about it (I've always thought that was the point of all dual-lens cameras).
Cheers!

The B&W sensor should provide depth information. You can try different camera modes and cover the B&W sensor. The phone says "Please do not cover the lenses." in some camera modes. But if you don't put finger too close, nothing happens. I can't tell it does anything at all to the image quality which seems strange. Did they made some mistake in latest build? It only does have some effect on aperture mode when you can see heat haze effect on display. It sucks we don't have more options like jpg quality or sliders for post-process filters.

Recording Video from 5x Lens

Has anyone noticed that when you're shooting videos in the 5x mode you're not actually recording video from the 5x lens. You're recording from the 2x lens digitally zoomed in.
You can test this for yourself by putting your finger over the top lens while recording at 5x and see for yourself
Another fun fact for anyone who didn't know is the 5x lens is actually a 3.7x optical zoom. So if you want the very best quality photo you should pinch the cam to 3.7x as beyond that is digital
I'm using software 11.0.9 Global

MoneyFist said:
Has anyone noticed that when you're shooting videos in the 5x mode you're not actually recording video from the 5x lens. You're recording from the 2x lens digitally zoomed in.
You can test this for yourself by putting your finger over the top lens while recording at 5x and see for yourself
Another fun fact for anyone who didn't know is the 5x lens is actually a 3.7x optical zoom. So if you want the very best quality photo you should pinch the cam to 3.7x as beyond that is digital
I'm using software 11.0.9 Global
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I thought you can actually record video from 3.7x lens.
And fact that its "just" 3.7 is well known.
But very surprised about video recording. Real shame, wonder what it would look like.

That is true for the stock cam app. But if you install the opencamera app that is on this forum adapted to the mi note 10 you can use rhe 5x camera for recording video, as well as manual controls for focus and exposure, it works really well

Liquer said:
That is true for the stock cam app. But if you install the opencamera app that is on this forum adapted to the mi note 10 you can use rhe 5x camera for recording video, as well as manual controls for focus and exposure, it works really well
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Yeah, this Open Camera for Mi Note 10 helps a lot. But wonder, if anyone got it working in video mode using Gcam?

Question Blurry Camera

Hi new member here.
Is anyone else having issues with the camera on the s22 exynos? Just zooming in a little makes the camera so blurry and pixelated. The zoom on my friends s21 ultra is so much better which makes me think I may have a faulty device. I reset all settings in the camera app but that didn't improve anything.

Try a hard reboot and clear the system cache.
If the former solves it may still be a hardware issue if it keeps reoccurring.

AnneB1967 said:
Hi new member here.
Is anyone else having issues with the camera on the s22 exynos? Just zooming in a little makes the camera so blurry and pixelated. The zoom on my friends s21 ultra is so much better which makes me think I may have a faulty device. I reset all settings in the camera app but that didn't improve anything.
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How much are you zooming in? The camera is 10x optical. Anything beyond 10x is digital zoom which results in pixelated images. Digital zoom is nothing more than cropping the image. Also, as you zoom in, it makes it harder to hold the phone/camera steady; which can cause motion blur.

[COLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.870588235294118)]The camera is not 10x optical.The phone has a 10x lens where 10x mean 10 times the zoom of the main lens. And it has a 3x optical zoom (periscope lens, capable to 30x, referred to primary lens)
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gernerttl said:
How much are you zooming in? The camera is 10x optical. Anything beyond 10x is digital zoom which results in pixelated images. Digital zoom is nothing more than cropping the image. Also, as you zoom in, it makes it harder to hold the phone/camera steady; which can cause motion blur.
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jordiz86 said:
[COLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.870588235294118)]The camera is not 10x optical.The phone has a 10x lens where 10x mean 10 times the zoom of the main lens. And it has a 3x optical zoom (periscope lens, capable to 30x, referred to primary lens)
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"10MP Telephoto Camera
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Pixel size: 1.12μm
FOV: 11˚
F.No (aperture): F4.9
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