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SLOW THE %&*$ DOWN!
Just Kidding... but in all seriousness, the variety of roms for the Cappy is amazing. It all comes down to preference; however, I must say that with all of the updates, and new roms, I'm flashing at least twice a day and sometimes even losing track of what I'm running. (Although I know I'm currently running Andromeda and it is by far the best I've had on my Cappy. Awesome GPS lock in seconds, fast, stable.)
The point is... can we consolidate, or come up with a legit thread/wiki that clarifies the pros, cons, features, and specifications on roms. Reading 20 pages of forum after a new ROM is released is getting tiring.
Theodor911 said:
SLOW THE %&*$ DOWN!
Just Kidding... but in all seriousness, the variety of roms for the Cappy is amazing. It all comes down to preference; however, I must say that with all of the updates, and new roms, I'm flashing at least twice a day and sometimes even losing track of what I'm running. (Although I know I'm currently running Andromeda and it is by far the best I've had on my Cappy. Awesome GPS lock in seconds, fast, stable.)
The point is... can we consolidate, or come up with a legit thread/wiki that clarifies the pros, cons, features, and specifications on roms. Reading 20 pages of forum after a new ROM is released is getting tiring.
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Well you shouldnt have posted in the DEV section.... See here
But since you have. Just be glad that we have all of them to chose from. Not long ago it was slow here. And no. That thread idea has never worked.....In all the time i have been here.
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Well you shouldnt have posted in the DEV section.... See here
But since you have. Just be glad that we have all of them to chose from. Not long ago it was slow here. And no. That thread idea has never worked.....In all the time i have been here.
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I agree, it will never work. XDA is here for a reason. lets just keep doing what were doing. Also, where the hell have you been Smoke?
Theodor911 said:
SLOW THE %&*$ DOWN!
Just Kidding... but in all seriousness, the variety of roms for the Cappy is amazing. It all comes down to preference; however, I must say that with all of the updates, and new roms, I'm flashing at least twice a day and sometimes even losing track of what I'm running. (Although I know I'm currently running Andromeda and it is by far the best I've had on my Cappy. Awesome GPS lock in seconds, fast, stable.)
The point is... can we consolidate, or come up with a legit thread/wiki that clarifies the pros, cons, features, and specifications on roms. Reading 20 pages of forum after a new ROM is released is getting tiring.
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If you look at the feature sets, most of them are the same, just different skins, apps, etc included...
everything is pretty common knowledge since we are all running the same mods... additional apps, skins, etc are just fluff, which is why I personally don't include that kinda stuff. I will leave that to the theme and app section and the person running the rom to make it look how they want.
as far as all of us working together, I respond to all the devs who ask for help, I have joined up and help the team efforts, as well as individuals putting roms out that have asked how to do various things.
Putting it all into a wiki? No thanks, that stuff changes to much to want to deal with updating a wiki with 20 different variations on how to do a smali edit for X feature.
If you take donations, in a community based team, this always becomes a stress point, best not to take donations at that point. I won't accept a cut of team donations, someone will ***** about it if they get less or more, not worth it. (just noticed adam sent me a donation, KNOCK THAT OFF! lol)
As far as you not liking to flash a lot, get help, you are a flash addict
I wont be slowing down anytime soon, get used to it
/random thoughts
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If you look at the feature sets, most of them are the same, just different skins, apps, etc included...
everything is pretty common knowledge since we are all running the same mods... additional apps, skins, etc are just fluff, which is why I personally don't include that kinda stuff. I will leave that to the theme and app section and the person running the rom to make it look how they want.
as far as all of us working together, I respond to all the devs who ask for help, I have joined up and help the team efforts, as well as individuals putting roms out that have asked how to do various things.
Putting it all into a wiki? No thanks, that stuff changes to much to want to deal with updating a wiki with 20 different variations on how to do a smali edit for X feature.
If you take donations, in a community based team, this always becomes a stress point, best not to take donations at that point. I won't accept a cut of team donations, someone will ***** about it if they get less or more, not worth it. (just noticed adam sent me a donation, KNOCK THAT OFF! lol)
As far as you not liking to flash a lot, get help, you are a flash addict
I wont be slowing down anytime soon, get used to it
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I feel the same. So many roms are including everything everyone else is. Just skinning and a few differences. I stick to a select few toms and just go frombthere because there is just too much to keep track of right now.
DG you are an idol of a great developer.
It would be great if more.devastating would get together to lighten the load and make it a little easier on all involved, but then again I am excited to.see so.many great revs making a rom all their own.
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I think its just crazy that this thread even got other post
I would have thought it was over with mine. But oh well. I have been in the shadows adam
Im always here. Or kinda.... haha
i think a wiki would be convenient in some ways but more trouble than its worth. I mean who would wanna volunteer to keep up with every single rom, and update it daily?
It might help a lil with noobs trying to learn, but honestly reading through 100s of pages in one thread usually ends up helping you learn more than just the rom itself. When i first registered on this forum all i did was read for the first few months before even making a post
Guess I will jump on the bandwagon before this gets moved to the general section.
There was a point in time not so long ago where there were only about 3 ROMs for the captivate and a lot of drooling over what the other SGS variants had going on.
I for one am very happy to see the Captivate community grow and put out some good stuff. The variety and choices really help enable the end-user to get their phone to look and work how they want, end-user empowerment tends to make people happy.
Taco Bell has maybe a dozen individual ingredients but it's the way they are combined that makes each product special.
As for having to read the threads of each ROM, yea it can be a pain, but it is good for you. You are informed, can make the best choice, and know what to expect from what you are about to put on your phone.
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If you look at the feature sets, most of them are the same, just different skins, apps, etc included...
everything is pretty common knowledge since we are all running the same mods... additional apps, skins, etc are just fluff, which is why I personally don't include that kinda stuff. I will leave that to the theme and app section and the person running the rom to make it look how they want.
as far as all of us working together, I respond to all the devs who ask for help, I have joined up and help the team efforts, as well as individuals putting roms out that have asked how to do various things.
Putting it all into a wiki? No thanks, that stuff changes to much to want to deal with updating a wiki with 20 different variations on how to do a smali edit for X feature.
If you take donations, in a community based team, this always becomes a stress point, best not to take donations at that point. I won't accept a cut of team donations, someone will ***** about it if they get less or more, not worth it. (just noticed adam sent me a donation, KNOCK THAT OFF! lol)
As far as you not liking to flash a lot, get help, you are a flash addict
I wont be slowing down anytime soon, get used to it
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The note you made about the themes and such is exactly why I love Andromeda. I personally do not like the 2.0 theme, but the fact that there is an unthemed version as well as a themed version makes me the happiest panda in the world, and I think more ROM cookers should adopt this policy.
What I'd love more than anything else though, is a ROM that supports the hardware voice processing of the Captivate, as well as any custom kernels/modems the user wants. That would be the ultimate ROM in my opinion. Oh, and the 4 lockscreen mod is a must as well. I do not like the glass lockscreen
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i think a wiki would be convenient in some ways but more trouble than its worth. I mean who would wanna volunteer to keep up with every single rom, and update it daily?
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FYI-
Captivate Wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I897
Looks like it is not too far out of date.
People complain too much....
I understand your post OP but as mentioned it won't work. What get's the me the most is when people ask, "what's changed?"...
There are CHANGE LOGS ON EVERY THREAD FOR EVERY ROM.
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FYI-
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I897
Looks like it is not too far out of date.
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maybe i interpreted the OP wrong, but it sounds like hes talking about a wiki with more detail than the one we already have
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Taco Bell has maybe a dozen individual ingredients but it's the way they are combined that makes each product special.
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Taco Bell.. I'm hungry.
It really cracks me up that this thread is still going
Every ROM is made for a handfull of people. AS it seems. So to really make a wiki and save all the Info from a few thousand users is just nutz. even to have a WiKi just for the ROMs is kinda nutz as others have said. Just so much changes daily it would be so hard to keep up with
So i guess....Like all the others. We can let this thread die now
I agree with you Smoke. With the way updates come out sometimes daily for fixes or depending on an issues hourly a Wiki would just be too hard to maintain. If some one is up for it then go for it. I just see it as a way for people not to have to read the roms thread and doing research before they flash a rom to their $500 device.
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Still no replies? This question should be a pretty important one as it separates a fully functional phone like HTC vs all other android phones. Seems like an unfinished product.
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Still no replies? This question should be a pretty important one as it separates a fully functional phone like HTC vs all other android phones. Seems like an unfinished product.
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You are right, our phones are not fully functional because pictures come across incorrectly! I can't believe I have to take the 3 seconds to open the picture and press rotate so that it is perfect for the rest of the time I have the phone. What a travesty!
No you would send it. The person would get it. Have to save attachment, then rotate. If you bought a new car that looked great but the AC quit would u just accept it. All this development here w rom's that half ass work I would think someone would actually touch on fixing problems that are associated w the phones since day one. You can make fun of me but I didn't start this post for trolls. I started it because xda has a lot of talented people and those are the people I would like to talk to or at least hope that one talented developer can figure this out. Its not right to pay $300 plus for a smartphone that a dumb phone can get right.
Just a thought that maybe facebook isn't exactly a "top priority" to the devs as it is to you.
I don't mean that as a snide comment, but just another way to look at it. These guys are busy with other things in ROMs like making them stable, faster, use less battery, all sorts of things. I don't think making mods to a facebook app would really be on their "to do" list...
I understand that too but to me, focusing on porting unfinished rom's or constantly dealing w release candidates just to say u are running a rom isn't what I paid for. To each his/her own but fully functional is better to me than seeing fc, or reboots. There are a bevy of great devs and rom's. I just don't see the point on focusing on making something try to make some astronomical linpack score when its still unfinished. There are pages of people complaining about the mms problem on Google. Maybe I'm just the only want that thinks a smart phone should handle it. Lol it handle everything else.
Not a priority (to me anyway)... In fact I remove all trace of FaceBook from my phone any time I flash a Rom.
If it bothers you so much, here's a couple links that will help you out.
smali - An assembler/disassembler for Android's dex format
Dalvik opcodes (Thanks to Decad3nce for this link.)
Now get to it!
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I think we all realize that making these ROMs is just a hobby for most, but doesn't anyone want to make a fully stable one? From what I've seen since this phone rolled out, is that someone will make a ROM, update it a few times, and then it's just dust in the wind. Also the only 100% stable ROM is the stock ICS ROM; no? My point is not to criticize anyone for their hard work,but to rather ask the question; what is the point of tinkering with a ROM and never getting it to 100% before moving onto the next one? I know everyone is very appreciative of what goes on in this community, me included. I was just wondering if someone could shed some light on this question for me.
Also, just my two cents; It would be nice for someone to maintain a custom ICS ROM just so there can be an up to date ROM with nice features and wifi calling. =)
Instead of giving your 2 cents, do it yourself. What's your definition of stable. I've been on PAC since it's come out and have zero complaints. Your want stable? Don't root, don't flash, don't modify. There, perfectly stable. Saying "my point is not to criticize" doesn't absolve you from being completely ungrateful for the hard work it takes to do this. Do it yourself. XDA is a development forum, not completely 100 percent stable forum. Don't like it? Go get an iPhone.
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Most of the roms are stable. You can find things to ***** about on any rom, including stock.
When it comes to something not getting fixed it can come down to the dev not enough time, or its not worth the effort, or they moved on to a different device. I mean is it really worth fixing a bug that 2 people are experiencing if it is going to take a few weeks away from your family, I don't think so. And that is about how solid 95% of the roms are. Give some props.
There are probably 25 ROMs over 4 revisions of android... Its our job as USERS to spend the time and effort to find one we like, and that suits us. If a ROM has a bug that is detrimental to the use you need, look at another one. So try not to criticize devs when you haven't done your due diligence as a user.
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I think we all realize that making these ROMs is just a hobby for most, but doesn't anyone want to make a fully stable one? From what I've seen since this phone rolled out, is that someone will make a ROM, update it a few times, and then it's just dust in the wind. Also the only 100% stable ROM is the stock ICS ROM; no? My point is not to criticize anyone for their hard work,but to rather ask the question; what is the point of tinkering with a ROM and never getting it to 100% before moving onto the next one? I know everyone is very appreciative of what goes on in this community, me included. I was just wondering if someone could shed some light on this question for me.
Also, just my two cents; It would be nice for someone to maintain a custom ICS ROM just so there can be an up to date ROM with nice features and wifi calling. =)
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Fully stable is damn near impossible, man. There is sooo much involved in coding these ROMs it's literally staggering. These devs aren't software developers (not most of them) but just regular guys, working regular jobs like you and me. If you want completely stable best to stay stock rooted (so you can drop all that bloatware bull****) Most of these developers have day jobs that don't involve android and do this in their spare time, for us. To be frank, man, you did come across EXTREMELY critical, and the folks around here don't take kindly to that (just breath @njstein) What's the saying? Beggars can't be choosers? My point, if you want to run 4.3 your're gonna have to take the good with the bad, just suck it up and deal with the FEW bugs. I've been on 4.3 for a couple months now with no serious issues.. Just a few bugs. And for future reference, keep this kind of thing to yourself
I had no intention a dragging this into what it has become. Obviously no one understands the point I was making or the question I was asking. I'm not going to further this conversation anymore.
I don't understand why you are making a statement in general to all ROMs. The reason why the older ROMs are unsupported is because there is no reason to waste time updating them as the guy above explained. That's why you will never see halo on ICS. Now, 4.3 roms are supported at the moment. If you like an iPhone then congratulations.
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Because if every dev stayed on ICS we'd have loads of folks asking if 'such and such device' will ever get a jb or kk rom. Seriously re-read the posts about how difficult it is to code. Your post is akin to asking someone to rebuild a car engine multiple times because every 5000 miles the thing misfires. Why did it misfire? Was it a plug/wire? Something in the valves/cylinder? Electrical? Fuel delivery? How many hours do you expect someone to waste tracking and rebuilding (sometimes rebuilding everything) for every bug in a rom- even the bugs properly reported with a log?
And I've yet to see any device from Sammy to HTC to lg or any device at all that's 100% stable - even on stock. And that's from companies that have software development teams.
And don't listen to those folks about getting an iPhone- that platform isn't 100% stable or perfect either. What you are looking for is a dumbphone.
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Yup.... Why keep rebuilding that 4 banger (ICS) when with the same amount of work you can drop in a V6 (jb 4.1). And the same when a V8 (jb 4.3) is available to drop in. Then the 4 and the 6 get scrapped for some extra beer money, and you tinker with the latest and greatest again.
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Haven't been on in awhile and I see an argument going on? C'mon guys. Okay, about maintaining ROMs, when maintaining there are nightly's based off the latest changes. The more changes lead to more better features (and maybe some bugs). Not all are stable. In fact, there is no such thing as a "fully stable" ROM. Even stock from Samsung isn't stable. And please, don't argue on here. Take it to PM or some other way to communicate. Not on here on a public thread. May I include, that I have an iPhone . Don't hate because the OS is not controllable. Its a nice OS and lots of great apps. But Android is specifacally better in my opinion. Don't hate me for that lol. Also, if you'd like to learn on how to dirty port a ROM just google it and let's see if you can make a "stable" ROM. Move on everyone. lol
Edit: I don't want the mods to come on here and waste their time. Keep it clean next time
xWolf13 said:
Haven't been on in awhile and I see an argument going on? C'mon guys. Okay, about maintaining ROMs, when maintaining there are nightly's based off the latest changes. The more changes lead to more better features (and maybe some bugs). Not all are stable. In fact, there is no such thing as a "fully stable" ROM. Even stock from Samsung isn't stable. And please, don't argue on here. Take it to PM or some other way to communicate. Not on here on a public thread. May I include, that I have an iPhone . Don't hate because the OS is not controllable. Its a nice OS and lots of great apps. But Android is specifacally better in my opinion. Don't hate me for that lol. Also, if you'd like to learn on how to dirty port a ROM just google it and let's see if you can make a "stable" ROM. Move on everyone. lol
Edit: I don't want the mods to come on here and waste their time. Keep it clean next time
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You're right. It's important to remember that no one here is under ANY obligation to share anything - roms, root, recoveries, mods, etc - with anyone. So lets just appreciate what we have. :thumbup:
Let's also get a mod to close this thread, nothing more good can come of it.
This trollfest has gone on long enough. The sheer amount of disrespect flying around astounds me. Read the rules folks.
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This has been my daily driver from when it started... Now seeing the that Pixel Experience will no longer receive any update! It feels so sad now! Please.... Someone keep it alive!
Keep patience, and donate some value to Henrique, to support RN5Pro support.
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Keep patience, and donate some value to Henrique, to support RN5Pro support.
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Honestly, i dont think someone should. This community doesnt deserve this lol. Why would someone spend their time, only to get bothered with nonsense questions, requests, demands all the time. Get blamed for bugs, which arent even rom fault, never get any logs etc etc.. I could continue this list on and on and on. 80% of users here are ungrateful noobs that cant even read OP or last 3 posts, not even talking about using search function. So yeah, i dont wish that to any dev. Thats all my for my rant.
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Honestly, i dont think someone should. This community doesnt deserve this lol. Why would someone spend their time, only to get bothered with nonsense questions, requests, demands all the time. Get blamed for bugs, which arent even rom fault, never get any logs etc etc.. I could continue this list on and on and on. 80% of users here are ungrateful noobs that cant even read OP or last 3 posts, not even talking about using search function. So yeah, i dont wish that to any dev. Thats all my for my rant.
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You said it: 80% are ungrateful. That means that 20% correctly thank the work of @jhenrique09 . Please dev, continue your great work for that 20% of people in this community.
Just to say i will greatly miss this rom too...
Plekst said:
Honestly, i dont think someone should. This community doesnt deserve this lol. Why would someone spend their time, only to get bothered with nonsense questions, requests, demands all the time. Get blamed for bugs, which arent even rom fault, never get any logs etc etc.. I could continue this list on and on and on. 80% of users here are ungrateful noobs that cant even read OP or last 3 posts, not even talking about using search function. So yeah, i dont wish that to any dev. Thats all my for my rant.
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I agree with you too! They always complain about useless stuff! But please!!! It's absurd but I've fallen in love with Pixel Experience! And if there's no further update.... I don't think I'll switch to any other rom either! PE is just sooo awesome! And ...again I understand what you say, but believe me.... There are some who genuinely appreciate all Devs works! And love to use their products! Anyways... I still hope a resurrection of PE someday ?
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Just to say i will greatly miss this rom too...
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Same mate!
+1... It was best ROM for Whyred
Just move one. There is lots of ROM out there don't know why people freaking about it lol.
Here's what Whyred XDA Community deserve.
Community really never helped the developer Who has developed the rom without the device (and yes, it was painfull for him with 300 reported problems and zero logs).
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Just move one. There is lots of ROM out there don't know why people freaking about it lol.
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been using many rom, on many devices and for many years now.
This one was for me on whyred the most stable (or the most quickly fixed), keeping battery pretty good and with a good concept. I even used it on other devices since i liked it a lot.
That's the reason why it bother us.
the dev made a great job maintaining this ROM and was updating it regularly. for the first time i consider staying on a ROM that is potentially no more developped
The best custom rom, it's custom but it's cleanest
If you ever wonder why devs struggle to find motivation to work for the community, just find the first Pie FW update from henrique in PE thread and read the posts until the last page. Despite the fact that it was clearly noted to update firmware to Pie version and it was written how to do it, there were 4-5 pages per day (not posts, PAGES) filled with questions:
- bootloop, help pls
- can't flash, error in twrp
- how to update
Literally.
And that's everything you need to know about Whyred community.
1- If the rom is stable, you can live without updates.
2- José is "back", he bought a new whyred.
onliner said:
1- If the rom is stable, you can live without updates.
2- José is "back", he bought a new whyred.
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Yeah... If people just explore the forum more and do what he says to do... There wouldn't be any problems... The fill pages writing about questions. And it isn't a sign of wit! But PE is like love for a few people! And I eagerly want it comes back!
Never bothered to update my PE (december 5 rom) since it came out. Is running as smoothly as can be, so why mess with a good thing? Will probably keep it until next device, maybe next year.
Is there an archive with the older pixel experience roms and their respective changelogs somewhere?
taco9 said:
Never bothered to update my PE (december 5 rom) since it came out. Is running as smoothly as can be, so why mess with a good thing? Will probably keep it until next device, maybe next year.
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The latest update has much more features, there May be more coming. Plus, security updates.
Sent from my Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 using XDA Labs
The developers must link their jobs, social life etc. with making great roms. They need to sacrifice their free time to maintain the rom, fix the problems they encounter with debugging and people complain because they almost never read OP. Without thanking the dev, supporting him, what kind of monsters have this community become? Asking simple questions, which they just can search in like 5 seconds to find an answer... Shame on those people, may they regret now what've they done.
N1ck474 said:
Here's what Whyred XDA Community deserve.
Community really never helped the developer Who has developed the rom without the device (and yes, it was painfull for him with 300 reported problems and zero logs).
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Most of the devs are stopping because of the annoyances of the users, even more when the person does not have a device, it gets worse.
so I bought the 3a a few days ago, and I updated to Android 10. Wanting to install TWRP, I saw it wasn't available for the latest version yet. I know if I wanna root I can just flash the boot.img, but that's not why I'm here :
- are we gonna get TWRP anytime soon? I would prefer to wait for it
- haven't seen a custom ROM with Q/10 yet. Is it expected anytime soon too?
- Should we get multi rom support one day?
Given that there isn't any major feature in 10, I could just go back but I can wait a few weeks too.
Thanks in advance
PS: I'm not asking for ETAs, just a rough idea to help my decisionship
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80175195&postcount=189
benji said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80175195&postcount=189
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how fast does TeamWin respond to major android updates?
Given the current enthusiasm, or lack thereof with regard to Android 10 for this line of Pixels, I dont see much development happening soon if at all. I dont know why though its a great phone. I had the Pixel 3 when it came out and I do not miss that phone at all now that I have the 3a.
vinz244 said:
how fast does TeamWin respond to major android updates?
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Every update is different. I assure you they are working on it as quickly as possible. I believe there are some major file and partition changes that are creating a pretty big hurdle they have to get over.
Archangel said:
Given the current enthusiasm, or lack thereof with regard to Android 10 for this line of Pixels, I dont see much development happening soon if at all. I dont know why though its a great phone. I had the Pixel 3 when it came out and I do not miss that phone at all now that I have the 3a.
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People don't decide to move faster based on these passive approaches of suggesting "they don't care." We both know this was a sneaky troll attempt. No one will bite, I assure you. They are just going to continue at the normal speed they can.
Nevermind,,,not worth my time,,, move on.
edufur said:
People don't decide to move faster based on these passive approaches of suggesting "they don't care." We both know this was a sneaky troll attempt. No one will bite, I assure you. They are just going to continue at the normal speed they can.
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The 3a is the first phone I've gotten where I don't see any need for a custom rom. It's great just the way it is.
alliance1975 said:
The 3a is the first phone I've gotten where I don't see any need for a custom rom. It's great just the way it is.
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Exactly that. Only thing really missing is built in call recording and better sound quality through headphones.
alliance1975 said:
The 3a is the first phone I've gotten where I don't see any need for a custom rom. It's great just the way it is.
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Overall? yes you are right.
But i miss some feats like
Hide battery icon
Get rid of album art at lockscreen
Double tap lockscreen to sleep
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Just small things that wont hurt that much ^^
@Unstroofy and @yabadabadooo.
Indeed. My needs are basic, bt for auto, maps for directions, and I add some of my own apps. I can definitely understand where those smarter and more adept than me like to test, tinker and experiment. I'm nearing 70 and I like this phone for dependability.
Oh yes and not a lot of bloatware.
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People don't decide to move faster based on these passive approaches of suggesting "they don't care." We both know this was a sneaky troll attempt. No one will bite, I assure you. They are just going to continue at the normal speed they can.
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I assume it was just an assessment and he wasn't trying to troll or anything, just saying the community around Android 10 isn't very enthousiast. No value judgment.
alliance1975 said:
The 3a is the first phone I've gotten where I don't see any need for a custom rom. It's great just the way it is.
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II'd like to get rid of google in the long run (except for the photo app hehe)
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Overall? yes you are right.
But i miss some feats like
Hide battery icon
Get rid of album art at lockscreen
Double tap lockscreen to sleep
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Just small things that wont hurt that much ^^
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vinz244 said:
I assume it was just an assessment and he wasn't trying to troll or anything, just saying the community around Android 10 isn't very enthousiast. No value judgment.
II'd like to get rid of google in the long run (except for the photo app hehe)
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What Power settings? ^^
vinz244 said:
I assume it was just an assessment and he wasn't trying to troll or anything, just saying the community around Android 10 isn't very enthousiast. No value judgment.
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It is nice that you are extending a lot of latitude in lending the benefit of the doubt on this. The fact of the matter is that his claim was baseless. Android 10 has barely been out for a couple weeks. And to be honest, I have seen a lot of enthusiasm for it before and after. The truth is, that the whole "nobody cares" approach is used to cause a stir that the OP or replier is setting up as a challenge... as if the DEVs are failing and they need to get their sh*t together. It is a tired tactic that I am sick of seeing. It is subtle trolling. Even if he is the exception to the rule, I see this approach used too often and I think it does more harm than good to the userbase who counts on these DEVs (who by the way, don't get paid for their hard work).
Spot on brother, thank you. I have been around since the inception of Android and have been developing since day one. I have seen what great dev enthusiasm looks like and have seen devices get lost even though they are great devices. The Pixel 3a is a great device and everyone here is right it doesnt need that much in the way of custom roms. My hope is that it wont get lost esp when the Pixel 4 comes out. Not gonna take the bait on the haters who try to pick apart everything people say and turn it into something bad. This is a great community of Android enthusiasts helping other Android enthusiasts.
vinz244 said:
I assume it was just an assessment and he wasn't trying to troll or anything, just saying the community around Android 10 isn't very enthousiast. No value judgment.
II'd like to get rid of google in the long run (except for the photo app hehe)
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edufur said:
It is nice that you are extending a lot of latitude in lending the benefit of the doubt on this. The fact of the matter is that his claim was baseless. Android 10 has barely been out for a couple weeks. And to be honest, I have seen a lot of enthusiasm for it before and after. The truth is, that the whole "nobody cares" approach is used to cause a stir that the OP or replier is setting up as a challenge... as if the DEVs are failing and they need to get their sh*t together. It is a tired tactic that I am sick of seeing. It is subtle trolling. Even if he is the exception to the rule, I see this approach used too often and I think it does more harm than good to the userbase who counts on these DEVs (who by the way, don't get paid for their hard work).
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You sound like you want an argument to be honest. Maybe head over to reddit.
I can say that I'm not wild about Q, and was perfectly happy on P, but 99% of the reason I bought this phone was for the DSDS support which as far as I can tell, is completely dependent on Q at this point in time (and I'm assuming always will be). I've also been using CM/LineageOS for years now, and that's typically the 3rd thing I do to a new phone when I get it, behind unlock BL/root. I will say I'm a bit disappointed that LOS official isn't yet available for the 3a, but on the other hand, I totally get it with Q being so fresh.
I'd love to be one of the guys that is helping out with the dev side, but I've had so many irons in the fire with other projects for so many years that I just don't have time to do Android stuff as well. But I will say that I HUGELY appreciative of all the work that the devs have done for the community, and I will gladly wait for them to work their magic, especially considering we could all be playing the jailbreak cat and mouse game along with "damn it! the phone just updated, and I can't roll back to the version the JB supports now!".
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You sound like you want an argument to be honest.
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Those are the best kind of arguments. Dishonest arguments suck.
Development will eventually happen for A10. After all, eventually all new phones will use it, or beyond. Anyone who complains about lack of development should learn how to do development and fix the issue themselves. Otherwise, you get what you pay for.