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[Q]s Moving from Wm 6.5 to Android, can i still do all this?

Sort of getting forced into an upgrade, as need to get it sorted before 1st feb ( as with T-mobile UK that means 500mb vs 3GB )
Currently got a touch pro2 , had windows phones for over 5 years now. But not really liking win 7 phones, seem very restrictive, and theres not that many good deals about.
But on with my Questions.
1. Does Hotmail sync, so i get instant notifications as new emails arrive?
2. Can i back up all my calander entries and transfer them across?
3. I use opera mobile 10, can i copy my favorites across?
4. Is it possible to copy over my texts and contacts as these are all backup and saved via microsoft myphone
Apps & software
5. sat nav, a biggy, i have used TomTom since my ipaq ppc days, and nothing else, is there something compareable on android? not a data based one , needs to have maps on the SD card, for the UK & cover the rest of europe.
6. an equiverlent free app to midomi ( ie record a 10 second clip of a tune, and display the details of the tune ) that works well.
7. A radio station streamer app, that allows you to enter your own urls, as in .pls links.

fil said:
Sort of getting forced into an upgrade, as need to get it sorted before 1st feb ( as with T-mobile UK that means 500mb vs 3GB )
Currently got a touch pro2 , had windows phones for over 5 years now. But not really liking win 7 phones, seem very restrictive, and theres not that many good deals about.
But on with my Questions.
1. Does Hotmail sync, so i get instant notifications as new emails arrive?
2. Can i back up all my calander entries and transfer them across?
3. I use opera mobile 10, can i copy my favorites across?
4. Is it possible to copy over my texts and contacts as these are all backup and saved via microsoft myphone
Apps & software
5. sat nav, a biggy, i have used TomTom since my ipaq ppc days, and nothing else, is there something compareable on android? not a data based one , needs to have maps on the SD card, for the UK & cover the rest of europe.
6. an equiverlent free app to midom i ( ie record a 10 second clip of a tune, and display the details of the tune ) that works well.
7. A radio station streamer app, that allows you to enter your own urls, as in .pls links.
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I was in the same dilemma as you a few months back. i was a hardcore WM fan, but decided to make the switch to Android. i never looked back. Once you experience android it is like a completely experience. i got a galaxy tab, and kept my tg01 just incase i didn't like android, but now i would definetely let android be my next primary phone. if you want to experience android yourself, try out a ROM for your tp2.
like you, i dislike wp7, it is so restricted. Android is open source there is so much you can do for it.
My next phone will be a android, no doubt, possibly those dual core ones . i suggest waiting till after march when the dual cores are released.
Hope this helps mate

fil said:
Sort of getting forced into an upgrade, as need to get it sorted before 1st feb ( as with T-mobile UK that means 500mb vs 3GB )
Currently got a touch pro2 , had windows phones for over 5 years now. But not really liking win 7 phones, seem very restrictive, and theres not that many good deals about.
But on with my Questions.
1. Does Hotmail sync, so i get instant notifications as new emails arrive?
2. Can i back up all my calander entries and transfer them across?
3. I use opera mobile 10, can i copy my favorites across?
4. Is it possible to copy over my texts and contacts as these are all backup and saved via microsoft myphone
Apps & software
5. sat nav, a biggy, i have used TomTom since my ipaq ppc days, and nothing else, is there something compareable on android? not a data based one , needs to have maps on the SD card, for the UK & cover the rest of europe.
6. an equiverlent free app to midomi ( ie record a 10 second clip of a tune, and display the details of the tune ) that works well.
7. A radio station streamer app, that allows you to enter your own urls, as in .pls links.
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1. Yes you can configure Hotmail with Exchange to have push mail. I've only tried it for a short time and received several times the same message so can't tell you if that was a one-time bug or if it is usual. Anyway you can still configure a reception in POP every 5 minutes.
But you'll have the best of Android experience if you use a Gmail account instead. The push works really nice.
2. You can use Google Sync to transfer all your calendar from WM to Android.
3. Sprite Migrate allows the transfer of bookmarks but I don't remember which browser favorites it transfers.
4. For contacts you can use either Google Sync or Sprite Migrate. For your texts do you mean .doc? Maybe you could transfer them to your PC then to Google Documents and you'll have access to them via GDocs on your phone?
The real bad point in Android is that there is no real Office application like in WM. Documents to Go and Quick Office are either paid applications or not as good as in WM IMO.
5. There are several applications: Google Maps Navigation, Navigon for example. On HTC Desire Z and HD they have included offline maps on the SD card. I don't know for other brands devices.
6. Soundhound is the equivalent. It's free and you can now search for an unimited amount of songs
7. I don't use the radio feature so can't give you much information but I'd be surprised that it doesn't exist. Other people will probably give your more information about that

missparker76 said:
1. Yes you can configure Hotmail with Exchange to have push mail. I've only tried it for a short time and received several times the same message so can't tell you if that was a one-time bug or if it is usual. Anyway you can still configure a reception in POP every 5 minutes.
But you'll have the best of Android experience if you use a Gmail account instead. The push works really nice.
2. You can use Google Sync to transfer all your calendar from WM to Android.
3. Sprite Migrate allows the transfer of bookmarks but I don't remember which browser favorites it transfers.
4. For contacts you can use either Google Sync or Sprite Migrate. For your texts do you mean .doc? Maybe you could transfer them to your PC then to Google Documents and you'll have access to them via GDocs on your phone?
The real bad point in Android is that there is no real Office application like in WM. Documents to Go and Quick Office are either paid applications or not as good as in WM IMO.
5. There are several applications: Google Maps Navigation, Navigon for example. On HTC Desire Z and HD they have included offline maps on the SD card. I don't know for other brands devices.
6. Soundhound is the equivalent. It's free and you can now search for an unimited amount of songs
7. I don't use the radio feature so can't give you much information but I'd be surprised that it doesn't exist. Other people will probably give your more information about that
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There's a great radio app called tune.fm. its free and i use it a lot on my tab.. works a treat

olyloh6696 said:
if you want to experience android yourself, try out a ROM for your tp2.
i suggest waiting till after march when the dual cores are released.
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tried, but wasnt great on the tp2, so didnt go intall installing apps and stuff.
Would like to wait, but with t-mobile changing there term from the 1st feb, that would only leave me with 3 as a network with a decent data package
missparker76 said:
The real bad point in Android is that there is no real Office application like in WM. Documents to Go and Quick Office are either paid applications or not as good as in WM IMO.
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Hmmm kind of took that for granted, so word and excel are not avalable then? Or there replacements are poor?
Thanks for the other answers tho, clears up alot.

fil said:
tried, but wasnt great on the tp2, so didnt go intall installing apps and stuff.
Would like to wait, but with t-mobile changing there term from the 1st feb, that would only leave me with 3 as a network with a decent data package
Hmmm kind of took that for granted, so word and excel are not avalable then? Or there replacements are poor?
Thanks for the other answers tho, clears up alot.
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No, you CAN get Microsoft office apps on the tab. its just they are not 'official' microsoft branded but they still work. its just that in WM, you get the official mobile version.

ahh thats ok then,
looks like its DHD time

fil said:
ahh thats ok then,
looks like its DHD time
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Yeh! you could try searching up that new LG Optimus 2X... DUAL CORE , got announced in December. But not sure if the release date is before Feb.

olyloh6696 said:
Yeh! you could try searching up that new LG Optimus 2X... DUAL CORE , got announced in December. But not sure if the release date is before Feb.
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not only am i a windows phone fan boy, im a HTC one too,
seriously tho im really forced, as my contracts up on the 24th jan, and im out of the country on the 29th, so got 4/5 days to sort it, or wait and get the latest dual core job, but unuseable to me as 500mbs dont take long to use up

fil said:
not only am i a windows phone fan boy, im a HTC one too,
seriously tho im really forced, as my contracts up on the 24th jan, and im out of the country on the 29th, so got 4/5 days to sort it, or wait and get the latest dual core job, but unuseable to me as 500mbs dont take long to use up
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Personally, im on a network called GiffGaff. It is the sister network of O2.
I pay £10 a month, and i get
250 UK Minutes
Unlimited UK texts
Unlimited Internet
Unlimited Calls and texts to GiffGaff
It's so good, i signed my whole family up! You might wanna check it out

olyloh6696 said:
No, you CAN get Microsoft office apps on the tab. its just they are not 'official' microsoft branded but they still work. its just that in WM, you get the official mobile version.
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No what I meant is that I've tried both Documents To Go and Quick Office and they are less complete than the Office application in WM.
For example in Excel, it doesn't even display graphs. You only have spreadsheets. It's a real lack for me.

Anyother ways of copying my calander entries from win 6.5 to android, other than google sync as i cant get that to do it at all?
Dont think my active sync was ever setup or used, as it wont let me select anything, as no outlook is used??

I'm in that stage right now where my contract expires 2/20 and I'll probably wait a bit for the Atrix. However, I've been searching for these things in Android:
1. Pocket Dictionary / Japanese Language Input - I'm taking Japanese classes, so I use the Japanese SIP where you can use the stylus to draw the furigana characters, etc.
2. Cash Organizer - Apparently they're not releasing an Android version. Any financial software as good as CO?
3. Pocket Player - Anything even close to this? Random visualizations, skinning, library manager?
4. Outlook Tasks APP & SYNC - I use tasks to document everything, whether in the phone, or in the PC, and then just sync everything together with Outlook. Is there a standard task app that could sync with Outlook in the PC? With the categories?
5. G-Alarm - is there an equivalent? random mazes and math problems for snooze?
And let's not forget Spacetime, the HP48GX Emulator, and Pocket Stars!? Maybe it would just be better to start working on WINE for Android

Hey. i've been looking for an android phone that fits my budget right now, wich btw, it's not very high hahaha. i've been offered this HTC touch pro 2 in a really chep price, new and in it's CDMA version. I know i'ts a bit old but it fits my needs. BUT as i said before, i'm looking for an android phone. surfing around the web i've seen a few videos and sites talking about these "ports" that enabale you to have even Android 2.3 on this cellphone.
so, my question is, and i would really apreciate to be answered with simplle words (yes, i'm kind of noob with these smartphones, in fact this would be my first one), Is this possible? after getting my HTC TP2 will i be able to enjoy at least of android 2.2?
thanks in advance
greetings from venezuela ^^
I apologize for any misspelling

HTC HD2! I have a lot of Android SD Builds (Desire HD, Gingerbread,...).All of them work fine on the HD2.

Febo00 said:
Hey. i've been looking for an android phone that fits my budget right now, wich btw, it's not very high hahaha. i've been offered this HTC touch pro 2 in a really chep price, new and in it's CDMA version. I know i'ts a bit old but it fits my needs. BUT as i said before, i'm looking for an android phone. surfing around the web i've seen a few videos and sites talking about these "ports" that enabale you to have even Android 2.3 on this cellphone.
so, my question is, and i would really apreciate to be answered with simplle words (yes, i'm kind of noob with these smartphones, in fact this would be my first one), Is this possible? after getting my HTC TP2 will i be able to enjoy at least of android 2.2?
thanks in advance
greetings from venezuela ^^
I apologize for any misspelling
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Look around the rhodium forum and there is a sub section dedicated for android development
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fil said:
Anyother ways of copying my calander entries from win 6.5 to android, other than google sync as i cant get that to do it at all?
Dont think my active sync was ever setup or used, as it wont let me select anything, as no outlook is used??
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Not without ActiveSync AFAIK... there might be, but I don't know it, and ActiveSync is free and very easy to set up! Set up Activesync, sync your WinMo phone to Outlook, and then either sync your new Android phone to Outlook OR use Google Calendar Sync to sync Outlook to GMail and then sync the Android phone to GMail's calendar. (Don't do both or you'll get duplicate entries!)
Personally I prefer Outlook's calendar (more feature-complete and can handle recurring events better), but I can't deny that it's much easier having your calendar in the cloud, letting the phone sync with it from anywhere, and being able to log in from any PC to check it even if your phone has run out of battery!
dgaud007 said:
4. Outlook Tasks APP & SYNC - I use tasks to document everything, whether in the phone, or in the PC, and then just sync everything together with Outlook. Is there a standard task app that could sync with Outlook in the PC? With the categories?
Android doesn't have a Tasks (or Notes) function, which is a bit strange seeing as GMail has a Notes applet built in (!), but there's a few apps that add that functionality (some free, some paid-for) and support syncing with Outlook. Have a look on http://www.syncdroid.net/
5. G-Alarm - is there an equivalent? random mazes and math problems for snooze?
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Don't know but that sounds cool, I want one too!
And let's not forget Spacetime, the HP48GX Emulator, and Pocket Stars!? Maybe it would just be better to start working on WINE for Android
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Please do, and port over SCUMMvm and Nethack!
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[APP REQUEST] Tablet-to-Phone integration (see post)

There's been similar App requests before but mine is a little different.
I want my phone to seemlessly with one app (ideally):
- Tether my phone's 3g with my tablet
- Allow me to browse my phones files with my tablet:
- See photos in the gallery off my phone​- Listen to music files on my phone's SD card on my tablet​- Be able to make phone calls off my tablet through my phone including contacts integration​- Have documents written on my phone or tablet be saved on both, so if I only have my phone on me I still have all my important documents/homework with me.​
I could go on and on, but I think this tight integration with smartphone and tablet is the future, especially with the Transformer since its more of workhorse and the phone is more of a personal organizer.

I want my phone to seemlessly with one app (ideally):
- Tether my phone's 3g with my tablet​
Enable Wifi Tethering on your phone. Easy.
- See photos in the gallery off my phone​
Easy, make sure you sync/upload all your camera pictures to Picasa Web Albums (All Google account come with it) And it'll show up on the Transformer in the stock Gallery app. You can use a program like Pixelpipe to auto upload every picture you take on your phone to upload to Picasa. Or you can do it yourself, check mark all your photos, share, select Picasa.
- Listen to music files on my phone's SD card on my tablet​
Why store music to your sd card? Get Amazon Cloud Drive (Free 2 gigs, buy an album and you get 20gigs free), upload your music to Cloud Drive, and use the Amazon MP3 app to listen to your music! Or, run AudioGalaxy on your computer, point it to your mp3 folder, and use AudioGalaxy to listen to your computer's music on your tablet/phone.
- Be able to make phone calls off my tablet through my phone including contacts integration​
Contacts integration is already done with Google Contacts, auto syncs as long as your Google account is logged in. Making phone calls on your tablet? Seriously? Just grab your phone. This is sorry, but a stupid request
- Have documents written on my phone or tablet be saved on both, so if I only have my phone on me I still have all my important documents/homework with me.​
Keep your documents on Google Docs. Download the Google Docs app on your phone/tablet and you can have it on both.
Or better yet, Get DropBox also free. works on phone/tablet/pc/mac/everything. Modify one, and it comes across EVERYWHERE.
I could go on and on, but I think this tight integration with smartphone and tablet is the future, especially with the Transformer since its more of workhorse and the phone is more of a personal organizer.
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All the stuff you want to do is already doable and easy to do. Most important thing is moving away from local storage to cloud storage, that's the future and we're seeing already with Amazon/Google/DropBox.

What I'd like is to be able to control the tablet with my phone. Especially now that I have Plex, as being able to link my tablet to the tv and stream video with plex but sit on the sofa with my phone as a remote would be awesome.

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What I'd like is to be able to control the tablet with my phone. Especially now that I have Pled, as being able to link my tablet to the tv and stream video with plex but sit on the sofa with my phone as a remote would be awesome.
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This would be a very useful function...

What I'd like is an application to send/receive SMS/MMS from my tablet through my phone.
YES, I have Google Voice, but using that sends from your GV number. I'd actually like the sending and receiving to be done by my Droid X, but have a client application on the tablet that can interface with the SMS client on my phone.

FrayAdjacent said:
What I'd like is an application to send/receive SMS/MMS from my tablet through my phone.
YES, I have Google Voice, but using that sends from your GV number. I'd actually like the sending and receiving to be done by my Droid X, but have a client application on the tablet that can interface with the SMS client on my phone.
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Port your number to Google Voice. I did, love it. Also no contract line with T-Mobile.

I suggest that you might have more luck posting this request in the general Android apps forum here.
You might also give an indication of how much you'd be prepared to pay for such an application!
Regards,
Dave

nxt said:
Port your number to Google Voice. I did, love it. Also no contract line with T-Mobile.
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Those of us not in the US have issues with that though :-(
It should be easy for Google to do though, as they could route all SMS as data to a phone on your Google account, then send it as SMS from there using the phone's regular contract.
An SMS app for the tablet that meant I could recieve texts on it and reply whilst keeping the phone in sync with what's being sent and received would easily be worth a fiver. And that's Stirling, too

nxt said:
All the stuff you want to do is already doable and easy to do. Most important thing is moving away from local storage to cloud storage, that's the future and we're seeing already with Amazon/Google/DropBox.​
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The thing with your suggestions is that its a ton of different apps and lots of hoops to jump through.
I want one. single. app.​

nxt said:
Port your number to Google Voice. I did, love it. Also no contract line with T-Mobile.
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That only circumvents the problem partially... then if I want everyone who has my (current) cell number to txt me directly to my phone (I can't hear the notifications I set in GV on my DX worth a crap!), I'd need to give them another number.
I think a client/server type thing that would let me interact remotely with the SMS app on my phone would be ideal.

FrayAdjacent said:
I think a client/server type thing that would let me interact remotely with the SMS app on my phone would be ideal.
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Try this out.
I think what the OP wants is definitely coming. But, read all of the posts by the OP on the thread I posted for the Sync SMS app and you will see some of the difficulties placed on the devs for such a project. Add in the large number of device manufacturers(custom software implementation b/c they refuse to use vanilla android)/different hardware (DroidX for example doesn't support infrastructure Wifi - only ad hoc) and types of connectivity (BT/WiFi/Cellular/USB) and it will become a very complicated project. I'm not saying it won't be done... I think it will be done. But, it is just a little ways farther off from happening. It'll take awhile for the software devs to work out the kinks and with Android/Honeycomb constantly evolving/constant hardware changes.... It makes this a daunting project for a single dev/small group.
Also, when it does come battery drain (constant polling for change in data) and data usage (carriers moving to tiered data plans) issues will have to be addressed. Many of the push API's are being figured out by devs so that will decrease the polling - but, data usage is only going to go up. I only had my TF for one day and I was having to watch my data over 3G because I knew if I continued to use it without worrying about getting onto Wifi I would go over my 2GB cap.....
The Sync SMS app dev has some good ideas and has been hard at work. I suggest reading his posts to better understand the difficulties.
@OP - it'll come with a little patience. In the meanwhile you can do what the second post suggested and use multiple solutions.

Suggestions for GPS map software.

As I found out google maps doesnt store the maps on the device - it needs a wifi connection. Does anyone know what gps app package that will keep the maps on the device (prefferably on the memory card) so that the gps is actually useful?

Sygic and Navigon come to mind. Both are in the marketplace but they are not free.

i use copilot for gps.

I recently bought sygic and I like it. It has yet to be wrong. It is from Europe, so the default voice has an accent (which I kinda like being in the US since it's different) all of North America for me cost 26 dollars.
Best advice just try Sygic. It gives you a free 7 day trial but from my experience only let me download one state. After buying I can download all of North America.
One gripe I do not like about it is that you can't send maps to the SD card. It all goes on the main internal storage.

Having all the maps on internal memory would be horrible! unless I download one trip at a time. Im surprised the big gps companies like garmin and magellan havent came out with map software for android gps.

Actually Garmin bought one particular app I just forget which one it was. A little while after they did buy out that app they slapped a 50 dollar per year price tag on it.
Though if you are willing to tweak the app upon looking at the settings (and finding out where it is from looking in various forums) file in the app you can force it to store them else where. Have I tried it yet? Nope. Though I suppose I could and let you know since it will be worth my time in the end.
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Zadeis said:
Actually Garmin bought one particular app I just forget which one it was. A little while after they did buy out that app they slapped a 50 dollar per year price tag on it.
Though if you are willing to tweak the app upon looking at the settings (and finding out where it is from looking in various forums) file in the app you can force it to store them else where. Have I tried it yet? Nope. Though I suppose I could and let you know since it will be worth my time in the end.
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Upon messing with the settings file and telling it instead of reading from the Aura directory on the internal storage, I set it to "extStorage/SdCard/Aura" it didn't like that and now it force closes.
edit:
Still tinkering with it. I just tried the /mnt/sdcard2/ location and still no dice. Maybe if it was rooted and actually had access to write to the SD card? I'm not sure. Upon reading the thread in the general forums about not being able to write files to external sd card.
Anyway I am getting side tracked and veering away from the threads original purpose. I will continue tinkering on my own time.
All in all if you don't mind it putting everything on the sd card it a great app. A single state usually is only 20-35 megabytes. The first will be large mind you since it downloads all the needed files such as voices, graphics, etc.

Well Im trying sygic now but dont really care for it. Seems a little mediocre. Went on a day trip today and it couldnt find a main road. Pretty frustrating. So the search continues.

Ah it's all a matter of taste and preference then. I like Sygic but I will not go to Navigon. The fact you need to pay yearly bugs me.
You should look into copilot then. Though whenever they update the app you need to buy the newer version. I guess that's how they get you with that one :/
Those are the only other two gps apps that I am aware of so try looking into those.

KDOG2020 said:
As I found out google maps doesnt store the maps on the device - it needs a wifi connection. Does anyone know what gps app package that will keep the maps on the device (prefferably on the memory card) so that the gps is actually useful?
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You do realize that google nav caches the route, it just won't load the maps. If you enter your route while on wifi it will be there until you reach your destination. Or you could just tether it to your phone, which is what I prefer
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 7 Plus

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You do realize that google nav caches the route, it just won't load the maps. If you enter your route while on wifi it will be there until you reach your destination. Or you could just tether it to your phone, which is what I prefer
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 7 Plus
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Yes this is true from what I have encountered also. Plus doesn't it tend to have more up to date Point of Interests? On the flip side you can't cache everything to the SD card can you?
I prefer Sygic because I'm ancient and don't have a phone and was in need of GPS device. This worked out when I got my tablet over the holidays. I would have used google maps but I wanted to know I had everything on there (like an entire state).
I'm not denoting google maps though since I almost went that route until I found other means that were better to me

I'm really surprised that Google doesn't make their maps available for download to the device. Even if I had to pay say 30 bucks for the USA it would be worth it.

That would be convenient. I would totally use it at that point. But alas we can't always get what we want...

My favorite GPS software is Maverick since I used my Galaxy Tab P1000, but it does not run on this P6200 device. Any suggestion?

Google maps can pre-cache areas you selected. Click on Settings -> Labs and enable the Pre-Cache function.

Well that precaching is terrible. The maps aren't close enough to be useful. Back to the drawing board.

Drop Box, how is this a solution??

Now I could be missing something really obvious here but I can't seem to stream an album off drop box?
I uploaded a few last night so went into the folders on my One S today and could see all the music. Only problem is I can only play one song at a time?? Where is the option to stream an album? If this isn't possible how can this be a solution to internal expandable storage??

Why not use Google Music?
Edit: Ah, guessing its not available in your country. Yeah that sucks then. This phone really needed 32GB onboard if they were going to remove the Micro SD.

Because I have dropbox and though it would work where I drop music in a file (which I own) and then I can play it from the devices its installed on. Which I can, but only one file at a time.

The best solution is Google music; even if it is not available in your country, it's not that hard to get it.
If you are bent on using Dropbox for your music, then try ES File Explorer. It has an option to browse online storage such as Box and Dropbox. You can then long press on each file and add it to the now playing play list. Not the elegant solution you are looking for, I know, but better than nothing.
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Damn cloud storage is taking over the world..
I would have liked more than 16GB in my One S (receiving tomo ) But il just have to live with it
I do however like dropbox i use it alot since i made an account.. I guess i could just download my albums on the go, If memory gets full, delete it and download something else..
But yeah, Its not a perfect solution, A damn SD card slot isnt very big, Surely theres room for it somewhere ? ive got a collection of SD cards, from 2gb to 32gb - Pretty much useless now

When they said it has ropbox integrated I assumed they meant it was actually integrated to function as storage and not just as an app.

Google are releasing there own cloud storage soon..
They'll take over the world soon...providing they kick Microsoft's ass. Apple is slowly losing the phone war. Still...the ipods are amazing. I'm still using a 5g video
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I've been using Subsonic to stream my music for a while and it works like a charm. It was really easy (for me) to setup but I've heard some people have a hard time with it. I would suggest checking it out, could solve your problem. Just be aware that the first month is free to stream and then its a one-time, $15 fee to license the server. Well worth it imo.
http://www.subsonic.org/pages/index.jsp

As everyone says use Google Music.
If you cant get it, VPN to america and goto music.google.com and signup, then itll work in the UK there after.
Been using it on my old Samsung Nexus, and the One-S awesome app.

nyzrox said:
As everyone says use Google Music.
If you cant get it, VPN to america and goto music.google.com and signup, then itll work in the UK there after.
Been using it on my old Samsung Nexus, and the One-S awesome app.
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I decided to give google music a go, and I succesfully signed up for it and got it up and running fine via VPN from the netherlands. However, how do I install the app on my phone? play.google.com says it can't install the app cause of the country my phone is in...

I like Amazon Cloud (Music) better.....same as Google Music though

if you have an always on PC at home, there is nothing better than this.
shadow.8 said:
I've been using Subsonic to stream my music for a while and it works like a charm. It was really easy (for me) to setup but I've heard some people have a hard time with it. I would suggest checking it out, could solve your problem. Just be aware that the first month is free to stream and then its a one-time, $15 fee to license the server. Well worth it imo.
http://www.subsonic.org/pages/index.jsp
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QuintusDias said:
I decided to give google music a go, and I succesfully signed up for it and got it up and running fine via VPN from the netherlands. However, how do I install the app on my phone? play.google.com says it can't install the app cause of the country my phone is in...
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Sent from my HTC One S using XDA

Find the apk (not so difficult) and sideload it. Afterwards even the updates in Google Play Store will work (at least for me they do).
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Do you guys all have a data plan with endless hig speed.
In Germany i can only use 500MB on full speed (7200kbit/s) and after that i can only use download speed like 64kbit/s for the rest of the month... if i would use the dropbox as my music storage i would blow the 500 MB limit during the first week =D

HighRoIIer said:
Do you guys all have a data plan with endless hig speed.
In Germany i can only use 500MB on full speed (7200kbit/s) and after that i can only use download speed like 64kbit/s for the rest of the month... if i would use the dropbox as my music storage i would blow the 500 MB limit during the first week =D
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Sounds about right.... I love my unlimited data plan. A bit costly, but averaging 2+Gb /month it's worth it

a high data plan / unlimited is now becoming a must !! especially with all this cloud storage and the amount of apps that require internet.
its not soo bad for people who can use BT hotspots (me) or have wifi almost everywhere..
i reckon i could survive on a contract that only had unlimited internet and 0 mins and 0 texts lol
i could just use 3rd party apps to make calls and send texts via the internet... so its more important to have internet package than calls and texts lol
crazy!

Owning a Pixel 2 XL and keeping a decent level of privacy

I'm really tempted to buy a Pixel 2 XL but the privacy aspect of it freaks me out a bit.
I'm concerned with my online privacy: I don't have FB, try to avoid having a central provider of apps (i.e. Google), use a VPN, Signal, you get the picture.
Is it possible to stay this way and own a Pixel 2? Some specifics of things I'd like to avoid: microphone recording all the time, definitely not uploading my photos to Google Photos, Google having the ability to "see" my phone screen at all times, location being constantly recorded, etc.
Could rooting the Pixel 2 help with this? Also, does rooting to use something like LineageOS on the Pixel 2 negatively impact the quality of the camera?
Thanks!

How comfortable are you with building android from sources? The pixel 2 is supported by copperhead OS which would probably cover all of your needs.

Miguel Carvalho said:
I'm really tempted to buy a Pixel 2 XL but the privacy aspect of it freaks me out a bit.
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First, as someone who spent years working on other company's databases, I can tell you from experience that the few people at Google who can access your data aren't going to be accessing it. When they're working on a database, it's not your data they're looking for, it's the reason the database isn't working that they're looking for. Once they find that they go on to the real work they're being paid for and try to catch up on the time they wasted getting the database (which may hold everyone's pictures or everyone's contacts) working. Fixing data isn't their primary job. And they don't have a moment to waste looking at your contacts to see if there's someone they'd like to call. Put someone in with a totally wrong ZIP code (like someone in Los Angeles with a ZIP code starting with 6 - which is Illinois) and they'll never change it for you. It's wrong, if they see it they'll know - but they'll never be looking at it.
I'm concerned with my online privacy: I don't have FB, try to avoid having a central provider of apps (i.e. Google), use a VPN, Signal, you get the picture.
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And the VPN keeps a log of every connection you make, so that keeps it nice and centralized, if the government ever wants it. Bad idea.
Is it possible to stay this way and own a Pixel 2? Some specifics of things I'd like to avoid: microphone recording all the time
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Don't turn on your voice recorder. The Pixel doesn't record "all the time".
definitely not uploading my photos to Google Photos
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Then turn Photo Sync off. (Although even if you had pictures of a plot to overthrow the government, I doubt that anyone would ever find them.)
Google having the ability to "see" my phone screen at all times
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They don't, any more than anyone else on the internet does. If you don't run a VNC server, no one does.
location being constantly recorded
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Keep location turned off. Of course, if you lose your phone, you won't be able to use Android Device Manager to find it.
Could rooting the Pixel 2 help with this?
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Not unless you want to use an app that requires root access that would "help with this". And none of what you're talking about so far involves root access.
Also, does rooting to use something like LineageOS on the Pixel 2 negatively impact the quality of the camera?
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You can run Lineage without rooting. If you root, then install Lineage, you'll have to root again, because (as far as I know - I haven't run Lineage yet) Lineage doesn't come rooted. Does it affect the camera? Not if you still run Google's camera app. If you run a 3rd party camera app, probably. (Google does the HDR in the software of the camera app.)
If you want total anonymity, just do 2 things - never use a phone and never get on the internet. (Also never use a credit or debit card, don't have a bank account, pay cash for everything all the time, don't have a real job [wages have to be reported to the government - any government] ...) Basically, live totally off the grid. As soon as you get on the internet (even from a library's computer) you've left a trail. As soon as you've opened a bank account you've left a trail. As soon as you've applied for a credit card you've left a trail. And any of those 3 is a lot less secure than the data you back up to Google.
So you have a choice - live a totally paranoid life as a hermit in a cave, or learn to live in society, take normal precautions and stop thinking that everyone's trying to get your information. Very few people (other than organizations like your government's taxing agency) care. (I've been on the internet, storing data on servers, since servers used to dial each other up once a day - and I've never had any data compromised or had a "visit from the black helicopters". [And, on most sites, I've used my real name and real location, so I'm easy to find, if anyone wants to look for me.] I've been bothered more by people trying to sell me their brand of religion waking me up, and I don't have "No Trespassing" signs on my lawn.)
(Just don't use your phone for anything illegal. But don't use a computer for anything illegal either. If the police come for you they'll take your phone. But they'll take your laptop, desktop and all your papers.)

Miguel Carvalho said:
I'm really tempted to buy a Pixel 2 XL but the privacy aspect of it freaks me out a bit.
I'm concerned with my online privacy: I don't have FB, try to avoid having a central provider of apps (i.e. Google), use a VPN, Signal, you get the picture.
Is it possible to stay this way and own a Pixel 2? Some specifics of things I'd like to avoid: microphone recording all the time, definitely not uploading my photos to Google Photos, Google having the ability to "see" my phone screen at all times, location being constantly recorded, etc.
Could rooting the Pixel 2 help with this? Also, does rooting to use something like LineageOS on the Pixel 2 negatively impact the quality of the camera?
Thanks!
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I'm just like you! I suggest to check all the settings on myactivity.google.com and turn every option off, especially "web activity and apps". I stay away from social networks and use a good VPN too, but I've just found out on XDA that it's a bad idea, as VPN keep log of your activity... What do you think??
I also use Orbot sometimes, but with all scripts disabled some sites are unreachable.
As to the photos, to tell you the truth I'm not concerned at all, since I only post pics of my cats, animals, wallpapers and so on... :laugh:
I can't help you with rooting, this is my firt Android phone, I bought it in April!