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Hi there friends!
I'm live in Germany and the MT4GS is my favorite Android phone to date (have a HTC Dream right now ) and found a very good ebay deal, however I will purchase a locked device. (The MT4GS is not available for purchase in Germany)
So what exactly is the worst thing to happen when I receive it in Germany? Will it just say "enter code, because your not in the statez!" and do nothing? Or will everything work, it just won't accept my SIM-Card or not connect to the network?
I'm going to then get root and s-off if I need and try the kindly posted methods by you great guys for unlocking a rooted device. Feedback if someone successfully did it would be great, but of course I can have a look at the threads too.
Is there any other thing I might run into? Did I overlook something? It'll probably be difficult to return it if things don't work out.
Thanks so much for feedback and help!
Unrelashade
if you actually put a sim card in and start it up, it'll ask for an unlock code and you won't be able to do anything else (except make an emergency call of course). if you boot it with no sim card it'll work fine with no cell connection.
you can root it and do the trick to get the unlock code, all without inserting a SIM, then shut it down, insert a SIM card, and enter the unlock code to unlock it. I did that, it worked fine. Had to mess about a little bit with shuttling apk's onto an SD card to get the necessary tools to do the rooting installed, but it wasn't too tricky. Took me an hour or so. I wouldn't expect you'll have too much trouble.
What Adam said.
Just get S-OFF and use one of the SIM unlocking methods provided on the forum.
Expect to pay high taxes though...
Thank you guys! So happy you are here for us )
Yeah I know, taxes. But it's still freakin' cheap for a new dualcore phone. With qwerty. yay. Thanks for the warning!
Which method did you use to unlock?
Will come back here if any problems will occur.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16932841&postcount=1
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The one that's linked from the sticky. I advise installing the 'bad' CWM though, contrary to what the guide says, because the manual flash method is a bit of a pain, and now ROM Manager supports our phone, it's trivial to update to a fixed CWM via rom manager after rooting.
Ok, thank you again!
I just noticed, some websites say the MT4GS comes with Android 2.3 preinstalled. If they already put the new firmware on it before shipping then I'll have no chance of rooting and s-off'ing as of now, right? It's probably a mistake because it's upgradable... but still wanted to ask you guys.
shadow, do you know what taxes exactly? Will I have to pay "Mehrwertsteuer"/ sales tax/ added value tax as well as "Zoll"/ tarif tax? And how much % for the latter?
Reply would be most helpful
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Ok, thank you again!
I just noticed, some websites say the MT4GS comes with Android 2.3 preinstalled. If they already put the new firmware on it before shipping then I'll have no chance of rooting and s-off'ing as of now, right? It's probably a mistake because it's upgradable... but still wanted to ask you guys.
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correct, atleast until a new exploit is found or htc fixes its bootloader unlocking procedure
Yeah, if you get one with new firmware you're SOL. Maybe buy an actual second hnad one and check with the seller they didn't do the OTA update.
I've been doing a lot of searching/browsing around these forums on-and-off the past few months (since the phone came out) because I'm keenly interested in it.
There seems to be a lot of confusing/contradictory/missing information, so I'm hoping someone can help me out, answer a few quick questions, not just idly lambaste me for not magically knowing these things, and ultimately help me settle on a phone.
I have an HTC HD2, have had it for 2.5 years, it's a great device, but it's showing its age and (more importantly) it has diminutive internal storage.
I'm switching from Telus to Rogers on August 8th, so I have the opportunity to subsidize this phone with Rogers (only reason I'm considering this is because apparently Rogers allows you to buy out your contract any time for just the price of your remaining phone subsidy, at least, that's what the rep I talked to at a Rogers store told me).
So:
Is the phone SIM locked/can it be SIM unlocked at this time? (This is important to me, I travel and always get a plan local to the country I'm in.)
What's all this business/brouhaha about "S-OFF", what does it mean (exactly, I don't seem to be able to find specifics or comprehensive information anywhere) et cetera?
What's the state of custom ROM development/accessibility, specifically for the Rogers version versus the other versions (including the international version).
Basically I'm just tired of groping around the forums finding half answers or information that leads to assumptions, so if anyone who knows can condense this information, or link me to a thread I've missed where any/all of these questions are answered, I'd be much appreciative.
Thanks!
1) Yes you can unlock the phone. You can do it on.eBay for 3.99$ . Currently we do not have free méthod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1704321
2) s-off is byp*** the security of the device . (Correct me if anyone with more knowledge) to make more changes to device But I think since we already have bootloader unlocked and root exploit this is not Going make any significant impact
Since now we have keneral we will soon be seeing s-off or we will have awesome custom
3) compared to intl versión we have less custom roms But what we have are awesome and really nice. Its better having few really good ones. When compared to quailty of custom roms we are not behind compared to any device
Sorry for my bad english
If you tired grouping information then use search option , you can easily find info u need
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abhipati said:
1) Yes you can unlock the phone. You can do it on.eBay for 3.99$ . Currently we do not have free méthod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1704321
2) s-off is byp*** the security of the device . (Correct me if anyone with more knowledge) to make more changes to device But I think since we already have bootloader unlocked and root exploit this is not Going make any significant impact
Since now we have keneral we will soon be seeing s-off or we will have awesome custom
3) compared to intl versión we have less custom roms But what we have are awesome and really nice. Its better having few really good ones. When compared to quailty of custom roms we are not behind with than any device
Sorry for my bad english
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Thanks a lot for this -- despite the "bad english" it made perfect sense to me!
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If you tired grouping information then use search option , you can easily find info u need
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It's not about that, it's about the fact that when I find information -- by browsing, searching, et cetera -- it usually tends to be vague and builds on top of other information that I don't have, so it turns into this weird depth-first recursion of the whole forum.
It's easier to create a thread, get nice, straight, to-the-point answers from nice people like yourself (thanks again) so that I can proceed with confidence.
Spike15 said:
Thanks a lot for this -- despite the "bad english" it made perfect sense to me!
It's not about that, it's about the fact that when I find information -- by browsing, searching, et cetera -- it usually tends to be vague and builds on top of other information that I don't have, so it turns into this weird depth-first recursion of the whole forum.
It's easier to create a thread, get nice, straight, to-the-point answers from nice people like yourself (thanks again) so that I can proceed with confidence.
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No problem. :thumbup:
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abhipati said:
2) s-off is byp*** the security of the device . (Correct me if anyone with more knowledge) to make more changes to device But I think since we already have bootloader unlocked and root exploit this is not Going make any significant impact
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S-Off is short for "security off". On past HTC devices, S-Off was the key to being able to flash custom ROMs, recovery, radios, kernels and permanently root the device. Now that HTC is offering the bootloader unlock via HTCDev.com, we don't really need S-Off for most things. The bootloader unlock allows flashing of custom recovery and ROMs by default, then the devs figured out now to flash boot images and radios through recovery also. So as abhipati mentioned, S-Off is not needed for many things, including installing custom ROMs.
What some are hoping S-Off may allow is SIM unlock, further radio hacks (to enable the AWS frequency compatibility) and the ability to change the bootloader unlock flag from "RELOCKED" back to "LOCKED", among possibly other things.
HTC One M8 on Verizon. Android version 5.0.1. I did a lot of research yesterday, and could not find any working solution to root the phone. It's hard to find anything on Google because generally the information will be outdated (from last year or the year before). So can someone fill me in on what exactly I'd need to do? This is my first smartphone and I've never rooted an Android device before.
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HTC One M8 on Verizon. Android version 5.0.1. I did a lot of research yesterday, and could not find any working solution to root the phone. It's hard to find anything on Google because generally the information will be outdated (from last year or the year before). So can someone fill me in on what exactly I'd need to do? This is my first smartphone and I've never rooted an Android device before.
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Assuming you are still S-On and locked then you are stuck without root for now.
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Assuming you are still S-On and locked then you are stuck without root for now.
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This is what I was afraid of. How can I keep track of when there is an update to the situation?
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This is what I was afraid of. How can I keep track of when there is an update to the situation?
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keep checking these forums and/or follow @teamandIRC on twitter
Rooting the already updated HTC One M8
It's going to be difficult. I've been scouring the webs for weeks looking for the answer to that one. The Sunshine S-off didn't work for me. The only way I can find right now to do this requires finding somone that has purchaced the elusive "HTC java card" sometimes called the HTC S-off card. They can s-off your phone in a heartbeat. Wish I had one, I just can't see forking over 375.00 to get one.
So if your S-off there is a root method available ? I haven't found it if there is.
I'm running 5.0.1 Verizon S-off
Thanks in advance
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So if your S-off there is a root method available ? I haven't found it if there is.
I'm running 5.0.1 Verizon S-off
Thanks in advance
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If you're already s-off then just install twrp and flash, reboot recovery and it should ask you if you want to install root
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If you're already s-off then just install twrp and flash, reboot recovery and it should ask you if you want to install root
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It seems you have to be rooted to install TWRP........at least what found
You only have to be rooted to install it with their app. If you are s-off you can download it from their site and flash it with fastboot.
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You only have to be rooted to install it with their app. If you are s-off you can download it from their site and flash it with fastboot.
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I followed this method and I have re-gained root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ow-to-root-ota-pc-s-off-t3048604#post59750567
Now I'm going to try and flash the Dragon ROM with Sense 7
Thanks again for the help
same boat ; old filmware?
just received this HTC One M8 thru verizon, lollipop 5.0.1 after day 2 OTA update. I've been rooting every device i've owned since 08. Busy with daily tasks I haven't had a chance to sit and try unlocking bootloader until this weekend. I hit a wall when HTCdev returned an error after entering the identifier token \(^~^)/ . I did some reading, couldn't find anything.
I'm coming from a xt912 I've pretty much squeezed all I can get out of it since I got that brand new. I put CM12 on that just recently this HTC makes that the moto seem primitive. After bricking that (moto)spyder a few times flashing bad zips or doing things out of sequence I've put it thru the ringer and used RSDlite to just start from scratch. I have also found these device can put up with a lot and still bounce back. Geeze, I have three years of continuous text and data backed up on SD, lol . Something I haven't tried and wonder, does anyone know, is there any old VZW filmware for this M8 maybe 4.4.2 and try un locking from that point or Does the token id stay the same no matter what filmware?
Htcdev won't work on our phone because it's blocked by Verizon. Also, it's not possible to downgrade firmware or the OS without having s-off. At this time there's no way to get s-off on lollipop so you're pretty much stuck where you're at until an exploit is found by someone. Sunshine works for anything up to 4.4.4 but it won't work on a Verizon phone that's running 5.0.1. About all you can do right now is wait to see if Jcase and Beaups come up with a way to make it work on a Verizon phone too. I know that's not what you want to hear but that's how it is at the moment.
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I've been rooting every device i've owned since 08. weekend. I hit a wall
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Okay, glad I didn't spend too much time trying to figure this out, never rooted a device before
Gotcha . ...Stupid vzw ? I glanced at a procedure to unlock SIM. Have no idea if that would help anything. Havent tried it. Ill have to keep a watch out for something. Really compaired to that spider this thing is like a ferrari. Not too much bloatware. Lollipop rocks and knowing Im up to date for the most part calms me a little. I still dont like the idea of not having complete control of my device. I've already received a few notification marketing related from verizon that i could not close unless i looked at it. I did notice control over saving things to my ext sd i do like. I am a student just getting into the ist world.wish there was something i could help with. 5 classes is killing me at the moment though. I did also try to install an imsi catcher apk updates version and it seemed like it ran fine. I could of swore that app needed root access. I could be wrong with the newest version though.
Joint Java Card?
Same boat (Verizon, htc one m8) . . . For some reason I was thinking Lollipop was the update which was still able to be handled by Weaksauce 2. So I accepted the OTA, without thinking. -hadn't gotten around to s-off, etc., before this time around.
So, in some 2013 posts, I saw that some people had tried to pool resources and share a Java Card, etc. But sending phones to a "card keeper", is expensive, and unsafe (besides having to live without your phone for a few days.). jcase, on their company's IRC support channel, indicates that the card is more than just a simple microSD card, which one might be able to dd a filesystem image from (i.e. copy it for distribution). That's entirely possible, since all SD cards have micro-controllers for dealing with failed sectors, etc (check out "Bunnie's Blog"). Basically, the controller could make it tough/impossible to access part of the card, and can take care of decrimenting credits, encryption, signing, etc. Even if it were a basic SD card, the use of signed binaries, and external license/resource server, etc. could still make it tough . . . -although the card I found states it needs no internet connection. It would be much cheaper to send the card, rather than phones. But how to coordinate and pool the cost seems like it could be a pain?
So here's what I'm thinking about:
Someone (me?) could purchase a legit, new htc Java Card. After I use my 2 or 3 credits to s-off/unlock my phone, I could put the card on, say, ebay for maybe $5 less than what I bought it for. Then, another person could use some credits, then sell it again, for a little cheaper, etc. If we want to keep it "in-house", we could just send to each other and pay with PayPal or Google Wallet. But, with e-bay, one could just copy/build on the ad the first person started. Take a picture of your phone's screen, when the remaining credits are shown, and put it on the ad. With 2000 credits, my conservative estimate is that it could cost less than 72 cents, for each unlock. The $5 incremental discount might be close enough to cover re-shipping costs.
The Sunshine guys have, for free, helped many of us over the years. So I was planning to purchase their solution, if it worked for this situation. But their download page states that "Verizon 5.0.x users will have to wait until we update.". They indicate they could get us supported soon, but they also indicate that Lollipop is much more secure, with SELinux updated and better enforced., etc. So I am a little concerned about when that will actually happen. I see they've been posting updates for Motorola, and making sure people are able to pay them via PayPal, etc. But nothing yet for Verizon 5.0.x.
Does anyone know/recall how long after the last android update, someone came up with a root exploit? I'm just trying to get a rough guesstimate about the minimum time people will have to wait this time. -then add time because Lollipop is apparently significantly more secure. I guess I don't completely mind that my phone might be secure enough to not make it tougher for someone to get into the deepest parts of it, without specialized hardware (Java Card), if I were to lose it.
But, really, what Verizon and htc and others have done to these devices . . . They are, essentially, specialized computers. It would be like if Dell or another computer manufacturer sold you a computer, without allowing you access to your administrator account (and no clear/easy way to boot from another drive, to recover/fix things, etc.). That's crap.
I dunno. What do people think? I suppose I could just try it, and see.
Are new devices updated already? If I were to get a phone from verizon today will it already have the Lollipop update or would I get a still root-able device that I can deny the update?
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But, really, what Verizon and htc and others have done to these devices . . . They are, essentially, specialized computers. It would be like if Dell or another computer manufacturer sold you a computer, without allowing you access to your administrator account (and no clear/easy way to boot from another drive, to recover/fix things, etc.). That's crap.
I dunno. What do people think? I suppose I could just try it, and see.
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I like the idea of that Java card:good: and I completely agree with you on how wrong it is restricting administrative rights, especially considering these things are comparable to a new computer.
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Are new devices updated already? If I were to get a phone from verizon today will it already have the Lollipop update or would I get a still root-able device that I can deny the update?
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No guarantees either way.
What is the status on SunShine for our device?
I got the Java Card.
@vazersecurity: still "Verizon 5.0.x users will have to wait until we update.", as of today.
I got the card, as previously proposed, and was able to get S-Off on my USA-Verizon HTC One M8 with the Lollipop OTA.
I needed to download and place two files in the root of the card (now done).
I then (CID changed) was able to use htcdev.com to unlock my bootloader, and ultimately gain root. I'm now happily running a current Cyanogenmod ROM. To regain some functionality from my camera, etc., I installed the htc camera, HTC Gallery, and Zoe apps from the Play store.
So I've already created a listing for the card on eBay. I assume the forum rules won't allow me to post the link. But I, honestly, always intended to use that as a way to make it more convenient to share with a community of people who wish to join in. -not to try and make any money off the card. Again, rather than have people ship phones to one person (with the shipping cost, and being without their phone), if figured it would be cheaper, and less disruptive, to ship the actual card. So, you'd purchase the card from the previous user, then re-list it for a bit less than what you paid for it. With the starting cost and credits, S-Off is about 30 cents, each. As the card credits get used up, it gets cheaper. Maybe each person would end up paying a few dollars for S-Off, when you factor in the shipping.
Maybe a moderator could chime in about whether it might be OK to post a link to this "community-intended" listing. -or suggest a better contribution/distribution method.
Also, since many users in our situations have been out of luck regarding S-Off, for a few months now, might a moderator or someone suggest/implement a way to post/place this information more prominently, in the forums?
Thanks.
Hope this is the right place to ask...
Looking to upgrade to a Pixel 2 but before I dropped the money I wanted to be completely clear on a few things to make sure I don't end up with the wrong one. Digging through the process to root / unlock bootloader was a bit twisting and confusing, BUT the gist of what I got was:
If you're on Verizon (I am), you can root, but won't be able to unlock the bootloader if you purchase through Verizon, therefore, purchase through the Google Store to be able to unlock bootloader. Assuming all that's accurate, when on google store, scrolling through options to purchase I have an option to pick Carrier as either Unlocked or Verizon (includes SIM). I'm assuming I'd want to go with unlocked and then just pop in a Verizon SIM of my own? I don't want to buy the unlocked version and Verizon suddenly not let it work, or likewise purchase the Verizon one and have it come locked down anyways, defeating the purpose of buying through google... never purchased a phone this way so I wasn't 100% certain and just wanted to be sure.
Also a follow up, since the Pixel 2 automatically uploads your photos to the cloud (my wife's Pixel 1 does this so I can only assume), is it safe to assume that 64gb is going to be more than enough for your average user since none of the space on the phone will be used for photos, which tends to take up the majority of space. Or are people finding that they're filling up the 64 quickly making the extra cash for the 128gb worth it? I suppose this comes to personal preference, but was just curious on people's experience.
Sorry if these are basic questions, but I couldn't easily find the answer so I figured a quick ask wouldn't be too much trouble. Thanks in advance.
"Assuming all that's accurate, when on google store, scrolling through options to purchase I have an option to pick Carrier as either Unlocked or Verizon (includes SIM). I'm assuming I'd want to go with unlocked and then just pop in a Verizon SIM of my own? "
This. Buy Google unlocked then you can unlock the bootloader and have at the phone. If you buy Google Verizon I'm not sure you can even root the phone. I didn't see that in any of the threads I perused.
64GB is enough as long as your wife doesn't want to keep every picture on the phone like mine used to.
Go with unlocked from Google and put your Verizon SIM in the phone. Delete downloaded Verizon apps if wanted.
Honestly, $100 for double the space? I bought 2ea 128gig.
Also, bootloader unlocking, TWRP, root, and Viper4Android are pretty straightforward. When I get back to a computer I'll link previously posted steps.
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Thanks for the quick replies. I also misread and thought it was $200 to upgrade to 128gb and now realize it's only $100. Definitely worth it to me.
The process of rooting, unlocking etc. itself I will be able to feel my way through with the threads here, I just wanted to make sure I was correct that I needed to purchase a certain version of the phone to do everything with it that I want to be able to.
Thanks a lot everyone.
If I'm not mistaken you will need to be able to unlock your bootloader in order to root the device. So, basically any modifications, including root, can only be done on the Google version of the phone.
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If I'm not mistaken you will need to be able to unlock your bootloader in order to root the device. So, basically any modifications, including root, can only be done on the Google version of the phone.
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I was about to make this same clarification. It addresses an important error in the op.
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Also a follow up, since the Pixel 2 automatically uploads your photos to the cloud (my wife's Pixel 1 does this so I can only assume), is it safe to assume that 64gb is going to be more than enough for your average user since none of the space on the phone will be used for photos, which tends to take up the majority of space. Or are people finding that they're filling up the 64 quickly making the extra cash for the 128gb worth it? I suppose this comes to personal preference, but was just curious on people's experience.
Sorry if these are basic questions, but I couldn't easily find the answer so I figured a quick ask wouldn't be too much trouble. Thanks in advance.
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I believe it's OK. Unless you want to manually store MP3s, where again 64GB seems enough for my needs.
Yep. After advise here and speaking to a few friends who own the pixel 1 I've decided to just go with the 128 from Google store to make sure all my bases are covered. Thanks again for the responses everyone. Just one more example of why this forum is so great.
If you have the link handy!
Diesel_Jeremiah said:
Also, bootloader unlocking, TWRP, root, and Viper4Android are pretty straightforward. When I get back to a computer I'll link previously posted steps.
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Hi Diesel Jeremiah! If you happen to have the link handy to the previously posted steps, can you post it?
(I'll go digging for it if you don't have the link readily at hand.)
Thanks!
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Hi Diesel Jeremiah! If you happen to have the link handy to the previously posted steps, can you post it?
(I'll go digging for it if you don't have the link readily at hand.)
Thanks!
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It's at the top of the 'guides' section. V4A is a Magisk module that's installed through Manager.
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It's at the top of the 'guides' section. V4A is a Magisk module that's installed through Manager.
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Thanks, DuckRuckus!
Hello everyone. I live in Brazil and just bought a 5'' 128GB Google Pixel (quite the new thing in our market). Still didn't receive it, though I'm already educating myself and doing research about the phone.
I'm looking for tips and information about what to do first as soon as I get my phone, particularly regarding preventive measures.
For example, I already know that:
Unlocking the bootloader is sound advice, particularly if you decide to update or install custom ROMs. [Source 1] [Source 2]
I assume you guys have had a lot of time to play around with your Pixels. If everyone would share a bit of information I'll keep adding them to this post and maybe we could turn it in a nice, straightforward TODO for new users
I'm sorry to say that you might meet some problem unlocking the bootloader. As far as I know, only Eu version can simply unlock by commands, the others , esp in the USA (Verizon), you can't. Fortunately you can still get help from amazing Chinese people on "taobao" for about $50 ,but you have to mail it around the world.
Where did you buy your device from?
I bought it from MercadoLivre, (our local eBay here in Brazil), so I ain't got a clue about where it comes from :/
The seller says the phone is carrier-unlocked, but I'm certain that has nothing to do with unlocking the bootloader, right?
I guess I'll try to unlock it as soon as I get it, and if I can't... well, I can always return it and get something else
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I bought it from MercadoLivre, (our local eBay here in Brazil), so I ain't got a clue about where it comes from :/
The seller says the phone is carrier-unlocked, but I'm certain that has nothing to do with unlocking the bootloader, right?
I guess I'll try to unlock it as soon as I get it, and if I can't... well, I can always return it and get something else
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you should be fine. Just try to unlock the bootloader and see after that. I personally flashed Dirty Unicorns rom as soon as I unlocked the bootloader. I've had this phone for a month now. There's a discord channel in my signature if you want to find that rom and some more.