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[Q] Import locked MT4GS (?)

Hi there friends!
I'm live in Germany and the MT4GS is my favorite Android phone to date (have a HTC Dream right now ) and found a very good ebay deal, however I will purchase a locked device. (The MT4GS is not available for purchase in Germany)
So what exactly is the worst thing to happen when I receive it in Germany? Will it just say "enter code, because your not in the statez!" and do nothing? Or will everything work, it just won't accept my SIM-Card or not connect to the network?
I'm going to then get root and s-off if I need and try the kindly posted methods by you great guys for unlocking a rooted device. Feedback if someone successfully did it would be great, but of course I can have a look at the threads too.
Is there any other thing I might run into? Did I overlook something? It'll probably be difficult to return it if things don't work out.
Thanks so much for feedback and help!
Unrelashade

if you actually put a sim card in and start it up, it'll ask for an unlock code and you won't be able to do anything else (except make an emergency call of course). if you boot it with no sim card it'll work fine with no cell connection.
you can root it and do the trick to get the unlock code, all without inserting a SIM, then shut it down, insert a SIM card, and enter the unlock code to unlock it. I did that, it worked fine. Had to mess about a little bit with shuttling apk's onto an SD card to get the necessary tools to do the rooting installed, but it wasn't too tricky. Took me an hour or so. I wouldn't expect you'll have too much trouble.

What Adam said.
Just get S-OFF and use one of the SIM unlocking methods provided on the forum.
Expect to pay high taxes though...

Thank you guys! So happy you are here for us )
Yeah I know, taxes. But it's still freakin' cheap for a new dualcore phone. With qwerty. yay. Thanks for the warning!
Which method did you use to unlock?
Will come back here if any problems will occur.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16932841&postcount=1
Sent from my RubiX NonSense FINAL using Tapatalk

The one that's linked from the sticky. I advise installing the 'bad' CWM though, contrary to what the guide says, because the manual flash method is a bit of a pain, and now ROM Manager supports our phone, it's trivial to update to a fixed CWM via rom manager after rooting.

Ok, thank you again!
I just noticed, some websites say the MT4GS comes with Android 2.3 preinstalled. If they already put the new firmware on it before shipping then I'll have no chance of rooting and s-off'ing as of now, right? It's probably a mistake because it's upgradable... but still wanted to ask you guys.

shadow, do you know what taxes exactly? Will I have to pay "Mehrwertsteuer"/ sales tax/ added value tax as well as "Zoll"/ tarif tax? And how much % for the latter?
Reply would be most helpful

Unrelashade said:
Ok, thank you again!
I just noticed, some websites say the MT4GS comes with Android 2.3 preinstalled. If they already put the new firmware on it before shipping then I'll have no chance of rooting and s-off'ing as of now, right? It's probably a mistake because it's upgradable... but still wanted to ask you guys.
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correct, atleast until a new exploit is found or htc fixes its bootloader unlocking procedure

Yeah, if you get one with new firmware you're SOL. Maybe buy an actual second hnad one and check with the seller they didn't do the OTA update.

[Q] Can I root my device if I have the latest OTA update?

HTC One M8 on Verizon. Android version 5.0.1. I did a lot of research yesterday, and could not find any working solution to root the phone. It's hard to find anything on Google because generally the information will be outdated (from last year or the year before). So can someone fill me in on what exactly I'd need to do? This is my first smartphone and I've never rooted an Android device before.

ziddy5 said:
HTC One M8 on Verizon. Android version 5.0.1. I did a lot of research yesterday, and could not find any working solution to root the phone. It's hard to find anything on Google because generally the information will be outdated (from last year or the year before). So can someone fill me in on what exactly I'd need to do? This is my first smartphone and I've never rooted an Android device before.
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Assuming you are still S-On and locked then you are stuck without root for now.

BladeRunner said:
Assuming you are still S-On and locked then you are stuck without root for now.
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This is what I was afraid of. How can I keep track of when there is an update to the situation?

ziddy5 said:
This is what I was afraid of. How can I keep track of when there is an update to the situation?
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keep checking these forums and/or follow @teamandIRC on twitter

Rooting the already updated HTC One M8
It's going to be difficult. I've been scouring the webs for weeks looking for the answer to that one. The Sunshine S-off didn't work for me. The only way I can find right now to do this requires finding somone that has purchaced the elusive "HTC java card" sometimes called the HTC S-off card. They can s-off your phone in a heartbeat. Wish I had one, I just can't see forking over 375.00 to get one.

So if your S-off there is a root method available ? I haven't found it if there is.
I'm running 5.0.1 Verizon S-off
Thanks in advance

jjmstang said:
So if your S-off there is a root method available ? I haven't found it if there is.
I'm running 5.0.1 Verizon S-off
Thanks in advance
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If you're already s-off then just install twrp and flash, reboot recovery and it should ask you if you want to install root

BladeRunner said:
If you're already s-off then just install twrp and flash, reboot recovery and it should ask you if you want to install root
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It seems you have to be rooted to install TWRP........at least what found

You only have to be rooted to install it with their app. If you are s-off you can download it from their site and flash it with fastboot.

mpappas87 said:
You only have to be rooted to install it with their app. If you are s-off you can download it from their site and flash it with fastboot.
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I followed this method and I have re-gained root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ow-to-root-ota-pc-s-off-t3048604#post59750567
Now I'm going to try and flash the Dragon ROM with Sense 7
Thanks again for the help

same boat ; old filmware?
just received this HTC One M8 thru verizon, lollipop 5.0.1 after day 2 OTA update. I've been rooting every device i've owned since 08. Busy with daily tasks I haven't had a chance to sit and try unlocking bootloader until this weekend. I hit a wall when HTCdev returned an error after entering the identifier token \(^~^)/ . I did some reading, couldn't find anything.
I'm coming from a xt912 I've pretty much squeezed all I can get out of it since I got that brand new. I put CM12 on that just recently this HTC makes that the moto seem primitive. After bricking that (moto)spyder a few times flashing bad zips or doing things out of sequence I've put it thru the ringer and used RSDlite to just start from scratch. I have also found these device can put up with a lot and still bounce back. Geeze, I have three years of continuous text and data backed up on SD, lol . Something I haven't tried and wonder, does anyone know, is there any old VZW filmware for this M8 maybe 4.4.2 and try un locking from that point or Does the token id stay the same no matter what filmware?

Htcdev won't work on our phone because it's blocked by Verizon. Also, it's not possible to downgrade firmware or the OS without having s-off. At this time there's no way to get s-off on lollipop so you're pretty much stuck where you're at until an exploit is found by someone. Sunshine works for anything up to 4.4.4 but it won't work on a Verizon phone that's running 5.0.1. About all you can do right now is wait to see if Jcase and Beaups come up with a way to make it work on a Verizon phone too. I know that's not what you want to hear but that's how it is at the moment.

benjdevel said:
I've been rooting every device i've owned since 08. weekend. I hit a wall
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Okay, glad I didn't spend too much time trying to figure this out, never rooted a device before

Gotcha . ...Stupid vzw ? I glanced at a procedure to unlock SIM. Have no idea if that would help anything. Havent tried it. Ill have to keep a watch out for something. Really compaired to that spider this thing is like a ferrari. Not too much bloatware. Lollipop rocks and knowing Im up to date for the most part calms me a little. I still dont like the idea of not having complete control of my device. I've already received a few notification marketing related from verizon that i could not close unless i looked at it. I did notice control over saving things to my ext sd i do like. I am a student just getting into the ist world.wish there was something i could help with. 5 classes is killing me at the moment though. I did also try to install an imsi catcher apk updates version and it seemed like it ran fine. I could of swore that app needed root access. I could be wrong with the newest version though.

Joint Java Card?
Same boat (Verizon, htc one m8) . . . For some reason I was thinking Lollipop was the update which was still able to be handled by Weaksauce 2. So I accepted the OTA, without thinking. -hadn't gotten around to s-off, etc., before this time around.
So, in some 2013 posts, I saw that some people had tried to pool resources and share a Java Card, etc. But sending phones to a "card keeper", is expensive, and unsafe (besides having to live without your phone for a few days.). jcase, on their company's IRC support channel, indicates that the card is more than just a simple microSD card, which one might be able to dd a filesystem image from (i.e. copy it for distribution). That's entirely possible, since all SD cards have micro-controllers for dealing with failed sectors, etc (check out "Bunnie's Blog"). Basically, the controller could make it tough/impossible to access part of the card, and can take care of decrimenting credits, encryption, signing, etc. Even if it were a basic SD card, the use of signed binaries, and external license/resource server, etc. could still make it tough . . . -although the card I found states it needs no internet connection. It would be much cheaper to send the card, rather than phones. But how to coordinate and pool the cost seems like it could be a pain?
So here's what I'm thinking about:
Someone (me?) could purchase a legit, new htc Java Card. After I use my 2 or 3 credits to s-off/unlock my phone, I could put the card on, say, ebay for maybe $5 less than what I bought it for. Then, another person could use some credits, then sell it again, for a little cheaper, etc. If we want to keep it "in-house", we could just send to each other and pay with PayPal or Google Wallet. But, with e-bay, one could just copy/build on the ad the first person started. Take a picture of your phone's screen, when the remaining credits are shown, and put it on the ad. With 2000 credits, my conservative estimate is that it could cost less than 72 cents, for each unlock. The $5 incremental discount might be close enough to cover re-shipping costs.
The Sunshine guys have, for free, helped many of us over the years. So I was planning to purchase their solution, if it worked for this situation. But their download page states that "Verizon 5.0.x users will have to wait until we update.". They indicate they could get us supported soon, but they also indicate that Lollipop is much more secure, with SELinux updated and better enforced., etc. So I am a little concerned about when that will actually happen. I see they've been posting updates for Motorola, and making sure people are able to pay them via PayPal, etc. But nothing yet for Verizon 5.0.x.
Does anyone know/recall how long after the last android update, someone came up with a root exploit? I'm just trying to get a rough guesstimate about the minimum time people will have to wait this time. -then add time because Lollipop is apparently significantly more secure. I guess I don't completely mind that my phone might be secure enough to not make it tougher for someone to get into the deepest parts of it, without specialized hardware (Java Card), if I were to lose it.
But, really, what Verizon and htc and others have done to these devices . . . They are, essentially, specialized computers. It would be like if Dell or another computer manufacturer sold you a computer, without allowing you access to your administrator account (and no clear/easy way to boot from another drive, to recover/fix things, etc.). That's crap.
I dunno. What do people think? I suppose I could just try it, and see.

Are new devices updated already? If I were to get a phone from verizon today will it already have the Lollipop update or would I get a still root-able device that I can deny the update?

libredroid said:
But, really, what Verizon and htc and others have done to these devices . . . They are, essentially, specialized computers. It would be like if Dell or another computer manufacturer sold you a computer, without allowing you access to your administrator account (and no clear/easy way to boot from another drive, to recover/fix things, etc.). That's crap.
I dunno. What do people think? I suppose I could just try it, and see.
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I like the idea of that Java card:good: and I completely agree with you on how wrong it is restricting administrative rights, especially considering these things are comparable to a new computer.

dimsumx said:
Are new devices updated already? If I were to get a phone from verizon today will it already have the Lollipop update or would I get a still root-able device that I can deny the update?
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No guarantees either way.

What is the status on SunShine for our device?

I got the Java Card.
@vazersecurity: still "Verizon 5.0.x users will have to wait until we update.", as of today.
I got the card, as previously proposed, and was able to get S-Off on my USA-Verizon HTC One M8 with the Lollipop OTA.
I needed to download and place two files in the root of the card (now done).
I then (CID changed) was able to use htcdev.com to unlock my bootloader, and ultimately gain root. I'm now happily running a current Cyanogenmod ROM. To regain some functionality from my camera, etc., I installed the htc camera, HTC Gallery, and Zoe apps from the Play store.
So I've already created a listing for the card on eBay. I assume the forum rules won't allow me to post the link. But I, honestly, always intended to use that as a way to make it more convenient to share with a community of people who wish to join in. -not to try and make any money off the card. Again, rather than have people ship phones to one person (with the shipping cost, and being without their phone), if figured it would be cheaper, and less disruptive, to ship the actual card. So, you'd purchase the card from the previous user, then re-list it for a bit less than what you paid for it. With the starting cost and credits, S-Off is about 30 cents, each. As the card credits get used up, it gets cheaper. Maybe each person would end up paying a few dollars for S-Off, when you factor in the shipping.
Maybe a moderator could chime in about whether it might be OK to post a link to this "community-intended" listing. -or suggest a better contribution/distribution method.
Also, since many users in our situations have been out of luck regarding S-Off, for a few months now, might a moderator or someone suggest/implement a way to post/place this information more prominently, in the forums?
Thanks.

First things to do once receiving unit?

Hi all, my new OP7Pro will be in my hands on Thursday. I purchased the 8 / 256 Gig version. What are some suggested or first things to do / settings to set to get the most out of this device. I can see how this is heavily opinionated so post away! This will be my first OP device and I will be coming from an LG G4 stuck on Android 6. So plenty of new features and capabilities await me. I look forward to your responses. Thank you in advance.

Just got mine but I'll wait to open it till TWRP is working

After restoring all your data just use the phone, thats the best way to get it dialed in. Maybe watch/read a review or 2 of the phone and the latest version of android to familiarize yourself with all the new things the OS offers.

I got mine today but there is a small flaw near the flash in the blue backing to the glass. Its a small visual imperfection, but I know its going to drive me crazy after paying 750 for it. I'm heartbroken because I wanted to mess with this phone all week....now I am going to have to go through the RMA process and wait longer.....gah.
Their support was just okay during the process...seemed like they just wanted to get me off the phone.

vsanch24 said:
Hi all, my new OP7Pro will be in my hands on Thursday. I purchased the 8 / 256 Gig version. What are some suggested or first things to do / settings to set to get the most out of this device. I can see how this is heavily opinionated so post away! This will be my first OP device and I will be coming from an LG G4 stuck on Android 6. So plenty of new features and capabilities await me. I look forward to your responses. Thank you in advance.
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Check the call quality, mate. I'm having major problems. The other parts in a call says it's a very bad quality.
/CK

Take out of box, admire for a min. unlock that suckers bootloader and install magisk, then setup and enjoy!!! (TWRP Optional) I personally going to wait until official.

Thank you everyone. I will be sure to give it a good testing. Just didn't know if there was any specific apps that should be removed or added to get maximum enjoyment. Figured there wouldn't be too many added apps since I bought straight from OP.

Got mine. Rooted, added my magisk modules, themed with substratum, restored apps+data with swift backup.

Enable tap to show ambient display (under display, ambient). This let's you do a tap -> tap to unlock as opposed to double tap -> tap to unlock.

The second morning I had it, I was messaging T-Mobile Help on Twitter to unlock my SIM. The first rep gave me the runaround, but the second unlocked it with no questions asked, because I'm a 10-year-customer I then applied for my bootloader unlock token. Come on, Saturday!

sabrdawg said:
The second morning I had it, I was messaging T-Mobile Help on Twitter to unlock my SIM. The first rep gave me the runaround, but the second unlocked it with no questions asked, because I'm a 10-year-customer I then applied for my bootloader unlock token. Come on, Saturday!
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Is Twitter better to do this or should I beg reps in TMobile messaging app?...I've been with TMobile for a long time I've gotten like 10 phones from them all eips...so what's good? Lol

Twitter all the way

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Twitter all the way
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I tried to make up an excuse as to why I needed my phone unlocked I told them I was leaving the country for 4 months but then I realized I don't know the reason as to why I needed my phone unlocked to travel....
What would be the reason to have a phone unlocked to leave the country?
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mlock420 said:
I tried to make up an excuse as to why I needed my phone unlocked I told them I was leaving the country for 4 months but then I realized I don't know the reason as to why I needed my phone unlocked to travel....
What would be the reason to have a phone unlocked to leave the country?
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Edit... nevermind I found what I needed to say lol

So I finally convinced somebody on TMobile Twitter and they said I need to do a Sim swap to make permant unlock work....after this step how do request for bootloader unlock and from who?

Second I got it was run through setup (skipping everything), update OS, then unlocking the bootloader. Restarted, ran thru setup, installed Magisk and my modules and now I'm all set till a stable TWRP is ready.
Currently waiting to see if we can get that VoLTE/VoWiFi trick working like on the 6/6T.

I was going to try and convince T-Mobile to unlock my SIM but then I figured that I could wait and hope that the devs bring the same tools that was with the 6T. Once the MSM tool and everything that was on the 6T comes to the 7 pro (hopefully), then I will just go to the international version then with no issues. Oxygen OS as of right now is doing just fine for me without root.

1st thing to do is lick it, only way to demonstrate to everyone that it's yours.
On a more serious note I wouldn't use the OnePlus Switch app, there's loads of people on the OP7 forums saying that they're having issues with laggy apps because the app and data has been restored using OnePlus Switch, if your apps have been installed from the Play Store then signing into your Google account, when you set the phone up, should have the setup prompt you to restore your apps, it may also show a date for each backup depending on if you've been installing different apps. I would just restore using that technique as some of the users on the OP forum confirmed this gave a better experience.

sabrdawg said:
The second morning I had it, I was messaging T-Mobile Help on Twitter to unlock my SIM. The first rep gave me the runaround, but the second unlocked it with no questions asked, because I'm a 10-year-customer I then applied for my bootloader unlock token. Come on, Saturday!
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Just did mine yesterday. Have to wait till next Tuesday. I'm still not sure I'm going to unlock and root this bad boy, really don't want to lose L1 on this thing, the screen is gorgeous, but I want to have the option to unlock and root just in case.

For me I would:
Dark theme
Gesture Navigation instead of the buttons.
Set up screen gestures "like draw V to turn flash light"
If you use google, under button and gestures " Quick activate the assistant app". coming from the pixel and squeezing the phone, this is super handy.
Adjust touch vibration for calls "Set as medium by default"
Pick the best Dolby Atmos settings for audio through the phone's speaker.
+Magisk if you're rooted.

OP7P comes in tomorrow. Backed up SMS/MMS today. Pics/Vids are already sorted on an SD Card. What else do I need to backup? Been 2 years since I had a new phone haha

2020 love for XA

Hi all, as I have some extra time, as may others too due to covid I thought I'd work on this phone.
Had it about 2 months as a pass down and want to give it to a family member, but like to clean it up and install a custom/debloated rom, like I do with all my personal phones and add some privacy
It's a nice phone, quite snappy for basic use but will require a new LCD, which is only £20.
Looking at the guides, I ran into a problem straight away, Bootloader cannot be unlocked, oh damn!
it's a EE (UK) branded phone.
As it's now 2020, has any exploit been found to atleast root it?
I've searched through forums and web, not much direction on it.
Rather not use the stock rom, unless I can debloat it. Shame tbh, it's a decent phone to let go.
Would a pre-rooted stock rom work?
Thank ahead

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Anybody, please? thx

Hi, as I did not get any replies to my issue. I continued to search and found a workable solution. Perhaps not full root per se, but it allowed me enough root privileges without unlocking bootloader, so I could delete all the Sony bloatware and some additional tweaks. I thought I'd post here for future reference for others.
First I found this :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82081703&postcount=1000
Then additionally this, which made it much simpler.
https://github.com/JunioJsv/mtk-easy-su
Hope it helps

davestuarts said:
Looking at the guides, I ran into a problem straight away, Bootloader cannot be unlocked, oh damn!
it's a EE (UK) branded phone.
As it's now 2020, has any exploit been found to atleast root it?
I've searched through forums and web, not much direction on it.
Thank ahead
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Only just seen your post and it seems you found mtk-su to get you going. :good:
I am curious about the bootloader though.
1. Did you try the official Sony bootloader unlocking procedure ? If you did at what part did it fail.
Normally it's just a SIM/Network lock that EE and other providers have so removing that may then allow the bootloader to be unlocked as I can't really see any difference in the firmware's except a few pre installed app's.
EE charge £8.99 for the SIM unlock code on second hand phones According EE's Help HERE If nothing else it will make it more usable and saleable.
I have a stock based ROM that's got most of junk removed and I replaced the dialer, contacts, launcher and other apps with Googles own apps If you do manage unlock the bootloader.
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Question Rooting Pixel 7 Pro or Pixel 6 is it worth it?

For starters I apologize for the lack of formatting Ill do my best but I'm not used to posting on forums, but I want to make a informed decision and over the years I have found this is the best place to find the answers I'm looking for.
The First Question
I'm debating with myself on two things. Should I root my Google Pixel 7 Pro (my new daily driver) or My Google Pixel 6 (my previous daily driver)?
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The deciding factors would be​
1. Do I lose tap pay functionality?
I consider this because I rooted Google Pixel 5a and I couldn't figure out for the life of me how to re-enable "secure apps" such as google wallet and banking apps.
In essence I don't want any functionality missing or disabled as a result of rooting and not setting something up properly. If this is avoidable please let me know and shoot me over available resources.
This goes for both phones regardless id like everything to work properly on either phone. I would rather not root the 7 Pro if it meant these types of apps work properly.
2. Are there any benefits or differences when it comes to rooting the 7 Pro vs the 6?
The answers to this question will help me weight the options, for instance if there is a decent enough benefit to rooting the 7 Pro then I might just forgo the "secure apps" mentioned in the last question.
I have been in and out of the rooting scheme for a while now and its hard to get updated with current app, edits, extensions, etc. I wouldn't even know what to look for.... depending on how this post goes Ill probaly make another post to ask what kind of stuff root has to offer these days, but for now if you guys can give me any general but impactful information on the differences/benefit/compatibility of rooting one device or the other, I would be grateful.
3. Which device would be easier to root and consistently update?
Right now I have a ATT carrier locked (I didn't buy it from ATT, I bought it from a used phone store and neither of them can or will unlock it...) Pixel 7 Pro and a T-Mobile (soft unlocked) Pixel 6. I have seen a guide for the Pixel 7 Pro and it seems simple enough, and I'm not to sure about the 6 because as I was looking around I was getting some people saying it is possible and others saying its not. I mainly just want to root either phone and have a simple-ish way to update it.
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The Second Question​Is it worth doing?
I know this is mainly a personal preference thing. I like being able to use things like titanium backup, or quick switch, or substrate themes, etc. I am heavily into customization and a lot of things can't be customized the way Id like to be able to. On top of that the ability to hyper configure the device to do exactly what you want when you want is exactly what I want.
This question is mainly to get a properly list of pro's and cons, so I can further weight my options.
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Thats the end for this post
If you guys don't mind with your guy's answers if you could post some updated resources I can look at for root apps and tweaks that would be great.
Thank you for helping me figure this out, and if you didn't or don't want to that's fine too, I'm just glad somebody read this xD.​

It seems like chatgpt is striking again. You asked it a question and it posted it? The links for rooting and what you can do are on page one. You see the awkward wording, ufff.

Kai2150 said:
1. Do I lose tap pay functionality?​
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No. P7P rooted here, tap-to-pay works. You will of course need USNF mod by Displax and Shamiko.
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2. Are there any benefits or differences when it comes to rooting the 7 Pro vs the 6?​
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I don't own the P6P so I can't compare, but P7P has a newer chip and I would be inclined to use it as my daily driver.
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3. Which device would be easier to root and consistently update?​
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Both should be equally easy using PixelFlasher. Keep in mind that P7P patches init_boot.img and not boot.img. You'll find that explained in details in the relevant PixelFlasher thread(s).
Kai2150 said:
Is it worth doing?
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AdAway / AdGuard
AOSP Mods (since you're into customisations)
Better Internet Tiles
Mixplorer
Repainter
SD Maid
SmartHertz
Substratum Lite
Swift Backup (best replacement for Titanium Backup)
Termux
Themer
Warden (to kill all app trackers in one go)
You decide.

wangdaning said:
It seems like chatgpt is striking again. You asked it a question and it posted it? The links for rooting and what you can do are on page one. You see the awkward wording, ufff.
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No i wrote that all my self lol

Fishawy said:
No. P7P rooted here, tap-to-pay works. You will of course need USNF mod by Displax and Shamiko.
I don't own the P6P so I can't compare, but P7P has a newer chip and I would be inclined to use it as my daily driver.
Both should be equally easy using PixelFlasher. Keep in mind that P7P patches init_boot.img and not boot.img. You'll find that explained in details in the relevant PixelFlasher thread(s).
AdAway / AdGuard
AOSP Mods (since you're into customisations)
Better Internet Tiles
Mixplorer
Repainter
SD Maid
SmartHertz
Substratum Lite
Swift Backup (best replacement for Titanium Backup)
Termux
Themer
Warden (to kill all app trackers in one go)
You decide.
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Alright you make a good case, could you link me to the various pages with the information for both the PixelFlasher and the above apps/modules

Fishawy said:
No. P7P rooted here, tap-to-pay works. You will of course need USNF mod by Displax and Shamiko.
I don't own the P6P so I can't compare, but P7P has a newer chip and I would be inclined to use it as my daily driver.
Both should be equally easy using PixelFlasher. Keep in mind that P7P patches init_boot.img and not boot.img. You'll find that explained in details in the relevant PixelFlasher thread(s).
AdAway / AdGuard
AOSP Mods (since you're into customisations)
Better Internet Tiles
Mixplorer
Repainter
SD Maid
SmartHertz
Substratum Lite
Swift Backup (best replacement for Titanium Backup)
Termux
Themer
Warden (to kill all app trackers in one go)
You decide.
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Do you know if I can unroot? Like say i cant get the banking apps to work and want to go back could I unroot and get access to those apps back?

Kai2150 said:
Do you know if I can unroot? Like say i cant get the banking apps to work and want to go back could I unroot and get access to those apps back?
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Root
Pixel Flasher
Universal SafetyNet Fix
AdAway
AOSP Mods
The rest can be found here on XDA or on Play Store.
Not sure about unroot since I don't need it, perhaps a bit of a read in P7P forum here can help.

Reflash stock init_boot.img and you will be unrooted. Depending, you might have to do a factory reset and bootloader relock. It really depends on the apps and such.

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For starters I apologize for the lack of formatting Ill do my best but I'm not used to posting on forums, but I want to make a informed decision and over the years I have found this is the best place to find the answers I'm looking for.
The First Question
I'm debating with myself on two things. Should I root my Google Pixel 7 Pro (my new daily driver) or My Google Pixel 6 (my previous daily driver)?
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The deciding factors would be​
1. Do I lose tap pay functionality?
I consider this because I rooted Google Pixel 5a and I couldn't figure out for the life of me how to re-enable "secure apps" such as google wallet and banking apps.
In essence I don't want any functionality missing or disabled as a result of rooting and not setting something up properly. If this is avoidable please let me know and shoot me over available resources.
This goes for both phones regardless id like everything to work properly on either phone. I would rather not root the 7 Pro if it meant these types of apps work properly.
2. Are there any benefits or differences when it comes to rooting the 7 Pro vs the 6?
The answers to this question will help me weight the options, for instance if there is a decent enough benefit to rooting the 7 Pro then I might just forgo the "secure apps" mentioned in the last question.
I have been in and out of the rooting scheme for a while now and its hard to get updated with current app, edits, extensions, etc. I wouldn't even know what to look for.... depending on how this post goes Ill probaly make another post to ask what kind of stuff root has to offer these days, but for now if you guys can give me any general but impactful information on the differences/benefit/compatibility of rooting one device or the other, I would be grateful.
3. Which device would be easier to root and consistently update?
Right now I have a ATT carrier locked (I didn't buy it from ATT, I bought it from a used phone store and neither of them can or will unlock it...) Pixel 7 Pro and a T-Mobile (soft unlocked) Pixel 6. I have seen a guide for the Pixel 7 Pro and it seems simple enough, and I'm not to sure about the 6 because as I was looking around I was getting some people saying it is possible and others saying its not. I mainly just want to root either phone and have a simple-ish way to update it.
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The Second Question​Is it worth doing?
I know this is mainly a personal preference thing. I like being able to use things like titanium backup, or quick switch, or substrate themes, etc. I am heavily into customization and a lot of things can't be customized the way Id like to be able to. On top of that the ability to hyper configure the device to do exactly what you want when you want is exactly what I want.
This question is mainly to get a properly list of pro's and cons, so I can further weight my options.
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Thats the end for this post
If you guys don't mind with your guy's answers if you could post some updated resources I can look at for root apps and tweaks that would be great.
Thank you for helping me figure this out, and if you didn't or don't want to that's fine too, I'm just glad somebody read this xD.​
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Just a note/thought...
I'm not entirely sure you'll be able to root either device (Pixel 6 or P7P)...carrier variant Pixel's are notoriously inconsistent (& sometimes just as difficult) to get the bootloader unlocked -- which is necessary to root. Apparently, carriers vary -- Verizon is a nonstarter and is for the most part impossible -- and, from what I've seen around the forum here, a lot of the times you'll need to pay off the device fully to get the carrier to send the signal to SIM unlock your device which will get the OEM unlock tick enabled (another necessity to root). You've stated that AT&T already has given you a hard time and has yet to unlock it, and from what I recall AT&T is similar in T-Mo that you must get it SIM unlocked -- so if they won't get that far, your options might be limited in terms of the Pixel 7 Pro that is an AT&T variant. In a lot of cases for T-Mobile, speaking them through Twitter support and/or regular customer service support can get them to send that signal that will SIM unlock (depending on what you tell them; i.e. you are a developer and require for it to be unlocked, you are traveling internationally and need to input another SIM temporarily, etc.); I'm unsure if you can do the same for AT&T.
Another note/thought is that, after rooting, updating isn't too difficult, BUT it is not as easy as using the built-in System Update process. Using the tool PixelFlasher makes it very straightforward and basically is almost the closest way to have a one-click update method, but it isn't as easy. BUT it is DEFINITELY faster than updating via OTA using the built-in System Update process (3-5 minutes vs. 20+ minutes)!
Lastly, be aware that in order to root, you must unlock your bootloader, and when you unlock your bootloader, it is required that your device is wiped -- since you speak as if you've used both devices at least a fair amount (moreso your Pixel 6 as it's been your daily driver for a while now), I'm sure there is also a fair amount of data and customizations on there that you will now have to re-enter, re-setup, re-transfer, re-download, and the like...
Just some thoughts that you might want to keep in mind...good luck to you!

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Just a note/thought...
I'm not entirely sure you'll be able to root either device (Pixel 6 or P7P)...carrier variant Pixel's are notoriously inconsistent (& sometimes just as difficult) to get the bootloader unlocked -- which is necessary to root. Apparently, carriers vary -- Verizon is a nonstarter and is for the most part impossible -- and, from what I've seen around the forum here, a lot of the times you'll need to pay off the device fully to get the carrier to send the signal to SIM unlock your device which will get the OEM unlock tick enabled (another necessity to root). You've stated that AT&T already has given you a hard time and has yet to unlock it, and from what I recall AT&T is similar in T-Mo that you must get it SIM unlocked -- so if they won't get that far, your options might be limited in terms of the Pixel 7 Pro that is an AT&T variant. In a lot of cases for T-Mobile, speaking them through Twitter support and/or regular customer service support can get them to send that signal that will SIM unlock (depending on what you tell them; i.e. you are a developer and require for it to be unlocked, you are traveling internationally and need to input another SIM temporarily, etc.); I'm unsure if you can do the same for AT&T.
Another note/thought is that, after rooting, updating isn't too difficult, BUT it is not as easy as using the built-in System Update process. Using the tool PixelFlasher makes it very straightforward and basically is almost the closest way to have a one-click update method, but it isn't as easy. BUT it is DEFINITELY faster than updating via OTA using the built-in System Update process (3-5 minutes vs. 20+ minutes)!
Lastly, be aware that in order to root, you must unlock your bootloader, and when you unlock your bootloader, it is required that your device is wiped -- since you speak as if you've used both devices at least a fair amount (moreso your Pixel 6 as it's been your daily driver for a while now), I'm sure there is also a fair amount of data and customizations on there that you will now have to re-enter, re-setup, re-transfer, re-download, and the like...
Just some thoughts that you might want to keep in mind...good luck to you!
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Yeah I spent the entire night I made this post trying to bypass the OEM lock and that morning called the providers and neither of them can unlock it, which is BS cause I'm not the person who didn't pay their bill. I'm just going to wait until someone finds a work around, if y'all figure something out lemme know.

I do not even need a smartphone without root rights !!
We should push legislation so that Google will must include root access by default in the settings for any Android device !!

Kai2150 said:
Yeah I spent the entire night I made this post trying to bypass the OEM lock and that morning called the providers and neither of them can unlock it, which is BS cause I'm not the person who didn't pay their bill. I'm just going to wait until someone finds a work around, if y'all figure something out lemme know.
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Sorry to hear that...but it is as I feared...
Unfortunately you shouldn't hold your breath. Locked down Pixels are fairly notorious about not being able to bypass; Verizon has locked down every Pixel since the original, with bounties $4k+ offering to bypass/unlock, all without success -- I'm unsure if there was ever one with other carriers. The only time there was a "work around" was with the original Pixel seven years ago, which was patched within a month or two. There hasn't been one since...

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Sorry to hear that...but it is as I feared...
Unfortunately you shouldn't hold your breath. Locked down Pixels are fairly notorious about not being able to bypass; Verizon has locked down every Pixel since the original, with bounties $4k+ offering to bypass/unlock, all without success -- I'm unsure if there was ever one with other carriers. The only time there was a "work around" was with the original Pixel seven years ago, which was patched within a month or two. There hasn't been one since...
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Yeah outta the 4 Pixels I own, Pixel 7 Pro, Pixel 6, Pixel 5a, and the Pixel 4, the only one that i can root is the pixel 5a which is annoying because it has lower specs and Refresh rate. The Pixel 7 Pro is locked to ATT bought through a third party and they said since i dont know the person who bought it and because there is a balance owed on the device there is no way to unlock it. The Pixel 6 is locked to Sprint/T-Mobile same situation as the P7P, and the 4 is Verizon locked and they said they dont even have it in their system, so yet again no way for me to get it unlocked.
I'm going out on a limb and gonna say there is likely no way to get these unlocked right now but if anyone see's this and knows of a way to convice these people at these companies to unlock the phones let me know cause as of right now i think it is impossible to get the phones unlocked via an unlock service or a program

Kai2150 said:
Yeah outta the 4 Pixels I own, Pixel 7 Pro, Pixel 6, Pixel 5a, and the Pixel 4, the only one that i can root is the pixel 5a which is annoying because it has lower specs and Refresh rate. The Pixel 7 Pro is locked to ATT bought through a third party and they said since i dont know the person who bought it and because there is a balance owed on the device there is no way to unlock it. The Pixel 6 is locked to Sprint/T-Mobile same situation as the P7P, and the 4 is Verizon locked and they said they dont even have it in their system, so yet again no way for me to get it unlocked.
I'm going out on a limb and gonna say there is likely no way to get these unlocked right now but if anyone see's this and knows of a way to convice these people at these companies to unlock the phones let me know cause as of right now i think it is impossible to get the phones unlocked via an unlock service or a program
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It seems that if you are interested & fine with getting 3rd party second-hand devices, places like Swappa.com is a great place to purchase that you can be sure is global unlocked/no-carrier-variant and has checks/redundancies/ways-of-confirming that the device being sold is legit; if anything you should be able to message the seller and ask for the IMEI so you can check with all the carriers to see if the device is free and clear in their systems...
If this is where you bought your devices and/or you know of this place, you can please disregard the suggestion