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Rooting MoPho w/ 2.3.5

Hi - I'm no developer, just a fan. I've read all the rules, terms, threats about what happens if you don't SEARCH first - guys I've done it all and for a long time. I have been studying up on how to root my MoPhoton 4g since I got it last August. I think I'm finally ready....but now I'm afraid I'm too late. I got involved in that soak test, which installed 2.3.5. Now, if I've searched/read acs and xda correctly (and other less intelligent sites), here's where I am:
There is no way to downgrade from 2.3.5
Shabbypenguin's wonderfully simple and sweet One Root won't do the trick on 2.3.5 (and boy did I try it MANY times). Had correct drives installed, etc...but no go. I assume you guys know what I'm talking about, but I can and will paste what the script read if you need me too. Short story...got all the way to "you should have root"....but I don't.
Currently the only way to do it is with a root method called Torpedo....which I don't know enough about yet but I'm about to get into it...
And finally, even if I get root, I won't have bootloader, again, because of 2.3.5.
Sound about right so far? If so, here's my big question:
If I can ONLY root for now, will I obtain the benefits I am looking for (mainly increasing/unleashing the SPEED I know this phone is capable of, and fixing whatever problem has always caused this phone to flicker it's wifi on and off and on and off constantly all the time, even in the same location....it drives me up the wall! Also, I'd like to get free wireless hotspot too, cause if you're gonna dream, dream big.
Thanks guys

I got a little confused reading your post, so sorry if this isn't the answer you are looking for...
Rooting would help you in a lot of ways, but the full potential of the phone is unlocked with custom roms and kernels...
For wifi on off, go to settings>wireless and network> wifi, and then press menu, select "advanced"...and see "wifi sleep policy" is set to "never"...
Sent from my GT-S5670

Photon root, bootloader, 2.3.5
Thanks for the response. Allow me to clarify:
Yes, I do want to root and install CM 7 or CM9, but if I can't unlock bootloader that's not possible....correct? If so, I'm hoping someone will tell me I'm wrong about one or more of my earlier assumptions (see bulleted list in OP).

Sorry, but I do not know the way around locked bootloaders...my device has an unlocked bootloader, and this makes job fairly simple...
Does you device have a subforum at xda? If so, then ask this over there, and you shall receive specific help there...
Or wait here for someone with more experience with locked bootloaders...
(P.s. look on over at youtube, you may find an answer)
Sent from my GT-S5670

cool old lady said:
Thanks for the response. Allow me to clarify:
Yes, I do want to root and install CM 7 or CM9, but if I can't unlock bootloader that's not possible....correct? If so, I'm hoping someone will tell me I'm wrong about one or more of my earlier assumptions (see bulleted list in OP).
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You can unlock but you will lose 4G.
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What is the likelihood of a 2.2 root?

Hey guys,
I know there are plenty of people working on finding a method for root, it's difficult, not trying to ask when it's going to be or why it's taking so long. I'm just wondering if it will even be possible, given HTC doesn't ever unlock the phone themselves. I love the One X, just got it and I think it's great, but I know that I'm going to eventually want to install MIUI or CM, and since my phone has 2.2 there's basically no way to do that right now.
Reading through some of the dev/think tank threads, I've read a couple of comments alluding to the idea that it might be impossible unless HTC unlocks it, and that they might not. Seems contrary to what I've seen in the past, pretty much every phone I or my friends have had got cracked at some point. Still, if it's not going to be possible ever, I might want to return my phone and switch it out for the SGS3 or some other.

I tried to Google for unrootable android phones and couldn't find any. However the percentage of devices using ics is very small and the only ones that have root as far as I can tell all have unlocked bootloaders.
It's very difficult to remain positive but I'm trying.

gunnyman said:
I tried to Google for unrootable android phones and couldn't find any. However the percentage of devices using ics is very small and the only ones that have root as far as I can tell all have unlocked bootloaders.
It's very difficult to remain positive but I'm trying.
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Y'all are so impatient!
Like any security, it just takes enough careful effort and determination to defeat. As great as the One X is, I have no doubt there will be enough of both to get this done. :good:

pzuraq said:
I've read a couple of comments alluding to the idea that it might be impossible unless HTC unlocks it
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I don't have the technical expertise to really say. But just from experience, I can say that HTC has been desperately trying to lock down their phones for over 2 years (maybe longer, that is justs when I jumped into the Android game) with some pretty sophisticated safeguards, and the phones have still been rooted, often very quickly. I don't think HTC has magically gotten better at securing their devices, to the point that the phone is now impossible to root. In particular, our device was rooted (1.73 firmware) something like 3 days after it was released, even with the locked bootloader and all the security that HTC could throw on it at the time. Its just my feeling that its really doubtful that HTC can go from that point, to making the device impossible to root in the matter of a few months..

Seen this new root method here on xda, any idea if compatible with our 1X?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870652
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C3RGIOSE1 said:
Seen this new root method here on xda, any idea if compatible with our 1X?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870652
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Apparently not: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31435583#post31435583

[Q] Newb questions about Cincinnati Bell HTC One S

I have a Cincinnati Bell HTC One S that I've had for about 18 months. I play games and use apps, very rarely use it for pictures(10 max before I move them to my desktop), and never for music. I started having issues with games, and the game help desk said I needed to install the new andriod update. The phone says it is version 4.1.1, 3.14.422.11 710RD, and when I try to do a manual update, it says there is no update available. I started looking online, rather than through Cincinnati Bell, and I see that a version 4.1.2 version came out for my phone last summer, and many people are even running versions up to 4.4? I also noticed that my phone is set with 6.07GB for Internal Storage, and 9.93GB of Phone Storage.
Would my phone be performing better with an updated version?
Since I don't really use any storage for movies, music, or pictures, is there a way to re-allocate the storage so I have more room for apps?
Since I don't really use any storage for movies, music, or pictures, is there a way to get rid of the apps related to them? (Google Play Books, Music, Newsstand, Google Text-to-Speech Engine, SoundHound)
I am obviously a complete newb, but I follow directions well. Can someone please help me out or direct me to what I'm supposed to read?

I'm really not trying to waste anyone's time or effort, but maybe I didn't give enough information, asked the right questions, or maybe I'm too much a beginner for this site. I'll try to add to what I previously posted.
I searched the web articles about my phone, my carrier, my version, and HTC updates in general. The general conclusion is that, even though there have been updates released by HTC for the One S, my carrier has not tested and/or made the updates available, and, upon further reading, there are many updates available beyond the official updates that people are using successfully and stably. Therefore, I decided it looks like it's up to me to keep my phone functioning for my specific purposes, so I needed to figure out what was the most successfully and stably used upgrade to my phone/carrier's system, and how to go about applying it.
I searched the web for forums about my phone, and the 3 most popular results are xda-developers.com, androidcentral.com(which seems to focus on non-US, and doesn't have a very active community, regardless of expertise), and cyanogenmod.com(which didn't have any referrences to my carrier). I came here because it has the most active community with members who have direct experience with my phone and my carrier, specifically.
I read all the posts here that had 'Cincinnati Bell HTC One S' in the titles or bodies, but they seemed much farther down the decision tree and involved many terms/processes/programs that I am not familiar with.
Am I at the wrong site?
Am I in the wrong forum?
Am I asking the wrong questions?

Kamchak said:
I'm really not trying to waste anyone's time or effort, but maybe I didn't give enough information, asked the right questions, or maybe I'm too much a beginner for this site. I'll try to add to what I previously posted.
I searched the web articles about my phone, my carrier, my version, and HTC updates in general. The general conclusion is that, even though there have been updates released by HTC for the One S, my carrier has not tested and/or made the updates available, and, upon further reading, there are many updates available beyond the official updates that people are using successfully and stably. Therefore, I decided it looks like it's up to me to keep my phone functioning for my specific purposes, so I needed to figure out what was the most successfully and stably used upgrade to my phone/carrier's system, and how to go about applying it.
I searched the web for forums about my phone, and the 3 most popular results are xda-developers.com, androidcentral.com(which seems to focus on non-US, and doesn't have a very active community, regardless of expertise), and cyanogenmod.com(which didn't have any referrences to my carrier). I came here because it has the most active community with members who have direct experience with my phone and my carrier, specifically.
I read all the posts here that had 'Cincinnati Bell HTC One S' in the titles or bodies, but they seemed much farther down the decision tree and involved many terms/processes/programs that I am not familiar with.
Am I at the wrong site?
Am I in the wrong forum?
Am I asking the wrong questions?
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There is no official update for your Cincinnati Bell HTC One S. Only way to update is getting S-OFF and/or change the CID.

Sold!
Ok, what is S-OFF and CID? Should I do them both, or in a certain order?
I will follow whatever instructions and/or read/research whatever you want.

Kamchak said:
Sold!
Ok, what is S-OFF and CID? Should I do them both, or in a certain order?
I will follow whatever instructions and/or read/research whatever you want.
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I just minded you're already running Jellybean, so please check your HBoot version as followed:
Power off the phone --> Press "Vol down + Power" at the same time and your phone will boot into bootloader. You can read different values. If your "HBOOT" is at least 2.15 you can manually install any newer Android versions e.g. 4.4.2

LS.xD said:
I just minded you're already running Jellybean, so please check your HBoot version as followed:
Power off the phone --> Press "Vol down + Power" at the same time and your phone will boot into bootloader. You can read different values. If your "HBOOT" is at least 2.15 you can manually install any newer Android versions e.g. 4.4.2
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Sorry it took so long -I just found out the hard way that I have to turn off Fastboot to get to bootloader.
So, my HBOOT is 2.15.0000!

Kamchak said:
Sorry it took so long -I just found out the hard way that I have to turn off Fastboot to get to bootloader.
So, my HBOOT is 2.15.0000!
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Pretty good You will need to unlock the bootloader first! Go HERE ad follow the guided steps. Once unlocked you can go on

[Q] Can I root my device if I have the latest OTA update?

HTC One M8 on Verizon. Android version 5.0.1. I did a lot of research yesterday, and could not find any working solution to root the phone. It's hard to find anything on Google because generally the information will be outdated (from last year or the year before). So can someone fill me in on what exactly I'd need to do? This is my first smartphone and I've never rooted an Android device before.

ziddy5 said:
HTC One M8 on Verizon. Android version 5.0.1. I did a lot of research yesterday, and could not find any working solution to root the phone. It's hard to find anything on Google because generally the information will be outdated (from last year or the year before). So can someone fill me in on what exactly I'd need to do? This is my first smartphone and I've never rooted an Android device before.
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Assuming you are still S-On and locked then you are stuck without root for now.

BladeRunner said:
Assuming you are still S-On and locked then you are stuck without root for now.
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This is what I was afraid of. How can I keep track of when there is an update to the situation?

ziddy5 said:
This is what I was afraid of. How can I keep track of when there is an update to the situation?
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keep checking these forums and/or follow @teamandIRC on twitter

Rooting the already updated HTC One M8
It's going to be difficult. I've been scouring the webs for weeks looking for the answer to that one. The Sunshine S-off didn't work for me. The only way I can find right now to do this requires finding somone that has purchaced the elusive "HTC java card" sometimes called the HTC S-off card. They can s-off your phone in a heartbeat. Wish I had one, I just can't see forking over 375.00 to get one.

So if your S-off there is a root method available ? I haven't found it if there is.
I'm running 5.0.1 Verizon S-off
Thanks in advance

jjmstang said:
So if your S-off there is a root method available ? I haven't found it if there is.
I'm running 5.0.1 Verizon S-off
Thanks in advance
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If you're already s-off then just install twrp and flash, reboot recovery and it should ask you if you want to install root

BladeRunner said:
If you're already s-off then just install twrp and flash, reboot recovery and it should ask you if you want to install root
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It seems you have to be rooted to install TWRP........at least what found

You only have to be rooted to install it with their app. If you are s-off you can download it from their site and flash it with fastboot.

mpappas87 said:
You only have to be rooted to install it with their app. If you are s-off you can download it from their site and flash it with fastboot.
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I followed this method and I have re-gained root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ow-to-root-ota-pc-s-off-t3048604#post59750567
Now I'm going to try and flash the Dragon ROM with Sense 7
Thanks again for the help

same boat ; old filmware?
just received this HTC One M8 thru verizon, lollipop 5.0.1 after day 2 OTA update. I've been rooting every device i've owned since 08. Busy with daily tasks I haven't had a chance to sit and try unlocking bootloader until this weekend. I hit a wall when HTCdev returned an error after entering the identifier token \(^~^)/ . I did some reading, couldn't find anything.
I'm coming from a xt912 I've pretty much squeezed all I can get out of it since I got that brand new. I put CM12 on that just recently this HTC makes that the moto seem primitive. After bricking that (moto)spyder a few times flashing bad zips or doing things out of sequence I've put it thru the ringer and used RSDlite to just start from scratch. I have also found these device can put up with a lot and still bounce back. Geeze, I have three years of continuous text and data backed up on SD, lol . Something I haven't tried and wonder, does anyone know, is there any old VZW filmware for this M8 maybe 4.4.2 and try un locking from that point or Does the token id stay the same no matter what filmware?

Htcdev won't work on our phone because it's blocked by Verizon. Also, it's not possible to downgrade firmware or the OS without having s-off. At this time there's no way to get s-off on lollipop so you're pretty much stuck where you're at until an exploit is found by someone. Sunshine works for anything up to 4.4.4 but it won't work on a Verizon phone that's running 5.0.1. About all you can do right now is wait to see if Jcase and Beaups come up with a way to make it work on a Verizon phone too. I know that's not what you want to hear but that's how it is at the moment.

benjdevel said:
I've been rooting every device i've owned since 08. weekend. I hit a wall
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Okay, glad I didn't spend too much time trying to figure this out, never rooted a device before

Gotcha . ...Stupid vzw ? I glanced at a procedure to unlock SIM. Have no idea if that would help anything. Havent tried it. Ill have to keep a watch out for something. Really compaired to that spider this thing is like a ferrari. Not too much bloatware. Lollipop rocks and knowing Im up to date for the most part calms me a little. I still dont like the idea of not having complete control of my device. I've already received a few notification marketing related from verizon that i could not close unless i looked at it. I did notice control over saving things to my ext sd i do like. I am a student just getting into the ist world.wish there was something i could help with. 5 classes is killing me at the moment though. I did also try to install an imsi catcher apk updates version and it seemed like it ran fine. I could of swore that app needed root access. I could be wrong with the newest version though.

Joint Java Card?
Same boat (Verizon, htc one m8) . . . For some reason I was thinking Lollipop was the update which was still able to be handled by Weaksauce 2. So I accepted the OTA, without thinking. -hadn't gotten around to s-off, etc., before this time around.
So, in some 2013 posts, I saw that some people had tried to pool resources and share a Java Card, etc. But sending phones to a "card keeper", is expensive, and unsafe (besides having to live without your phone for a few days.). jcase, on their company's IRC support channel, indicates that the card is more than just a simple microSD card, which one might be able to dd a filesystem image from (i.e. copy it for distribution). That's entirely possible, since all SD cards have micro-controllers for dealing with failed sectors, etc (check out "Bunnie's Blog"). Basically, the controller could make it tough/impossible to access part of the card, and can take care of decrimenting credits, encryption, signing, etc. Even if it were a basic SD card, the use of signed binaries, and external license/resource server, etc. could still make it tough . . . -although the card I found states it needs no internet connection. It would be much cheaper to send the card, rather than phones. But how to coordinate and pool the cost seems like it could be a pain?
So here's what I'm thinking about:
Someone (me?) could purchase a legit, new htc Java Card. After I use my 2 or 3 credits to s-off/unlock my phone, I could put the card on, say, ebay for maybe $5 less than what I bought it for. Then, another person could use some credits, then sell it again, for a little cheaper, etc. If we want to keep it "in-house", we could just send to each other and pay with PayPal or Google Wallet. But, with e-bay, one could just copy/build on the ad the first person started. Take a picture of your phone's screen, when the remaining credits are shown, and put it on the ad. With 2000 credits, my conservative estimate is that it could cost less than 72 cents, for each unlock. The $5 incremental discount might be close enough to cover re-shipping costs.
The Sunshine guys have, for free, helped many of us over the years. So I was planning to purchase their solution, if it worked for this situation. But their download page states that "Verizon 5.0.x users will have to wait until we update.". They indicate they could get us supported soon, but they also indicate that Lollipop is much more secure, with SELinux updated and better enforced., etc. So I am a little concerned about when that will actually happen. I see they've been posting updates for Motorola, and making sure people are able to pay them via PayPal, etc. But nothing yet for Verizon 5.0.x.
Does anyone know/recall how long after the last android update, someone came up with a root exploit? I'm just trying to get a rough guesstimate about the minimum time people will have to wait this time. -then add time because Lollipop is apparently significantly more secure. I guess I don't completely mind that my phone might be secure enough to not make it tougher for someone to get into the deepest parts of it, without specialized hardware (Java Card), if I were to lose it.
But, really, what Verizon and htc and others have done to these devices . . . They are, essentially, specialized computers. It would be like if Dell or another computer manufacturer sold you a computer, without allowing you access to your administrator account (and no clear/easy way to boot from another drive, to recover/fix things, etc.). That's crap.
I dunno. What do people think? I suppose I could just try it, and see.

Are new devices updated already? If I were to get a phone from verizon today will it already have the Lollipop update or would I get a still root-able device that I can deny the update?

libredroid said:
But, really, what Verizon and htc and others have done to these devices . . . They are, essentially, specialized computers. It would be like if Dell or another computer manufacturer sold you a computer, without allowing you access to your administrator account (and no clear/easy way to boot from another drive, to recover/fix things, etc.). That's crap.
I dunno. What do people think? I suppose I could just try it, and see.
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I like the idea of that Java card:good: and I completely agree with you on how wrong it is restricting administrative rights, especially considering these things are comparable to a new computer.

dimsumx said:
Are new devices updated already? If I were to get a phone from verizon today will it already have the Lollipop update or would I get a still root-able device that I can deny the update?
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No guarantees either way.

What is the status on SunShine for our device?

I got the Java Card.
@vazersecurity: still "Verizon 5.0.x users will have to wait until we update.", as of today.
I got the card, as previously proposed, and was able to get S-Off on my USA-Verizon HTC One M8 with the Lollipop OTA.
I needed to download and place two files in the root of the card (now done).
I then (CID changed) was able to use htcdev.com to unlock my bootloader, and ultimately gain root. I'm now happily running a current Cyanogenmod ROM. To regain some functionality from my camera, etc., I installed the htc camera, HTC Gallery, and Zoe apps from the Play store.
So I've already created a listing for the card on eBay. I assume the forum rules won't allow me to post the link. But I, honestly, always intended to use that as a way to make it more convenient to share with a community of people who wish to join in. -not to try and make any money off the card. Again, rather than have people ship phones to one person (with the shipping cost, and being without their phone), if figured it would be cheaper, and less disruptive, to ship the actual card. So, you'd purchase the card from the previous user, then re-list it for a bit less than what you paid for it. With the starting cost and credits, S-Off is about 30 cents, each. As the card credits get used up, it gets cheaper. Maybe each person would end up paying a few dollars for S-Off, when you factor in the shipping.
Maybe a moderator could chime in about whether it might be OK to post a link to this "community-intended" listing. -or suggest a better contribution/distribution method.
Also, since many users in our situations have been out of luck regarding S-Off, for a few months now, might a moderator or someone suggest/implement a way to post/place this information more prominently, in the forums?
Thanks.

2020 love for XA

Hi all, as I have some extra time, as may others too due to covid I thought I'd work on this phone.
Had it about 2 months as a pass down and want to give it to a family member, but like to clean it up and install a custom/debloated rom, like I do with all my personal phones and add some privacy
It's a nice phone, quite snappy for basic use but will require a new LCD, which is only £20.
Looking at the guides, I ran into a problem straight away, Bootloader cannot be unlocked, oh damn!
it's a EE (UK) branded phone.
As it's now 2020, has any exploit been found to atleast root it?
I've searched through forums and web, not much direction on it.
Rather not use the stock rom, unless I can debloat it. Shame tbh, it's a decent phone to let go.
Would a pre-rooted stock rom work?
Thank ahead

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Anybody, please? thx

Hi, as I did not get any replies to my issue. I continued to search and found a workable solution. Perhaps not full root per se, but it allowed me enough root privileges without unlocking bootloader, so I could delete all the Sony bloatware and some additional tweaks. I thought I'd post here for future reference for others.
First I found this :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82081703&postcount=1000
Then additionally this, which made it much simpler.
https://github.com/JunioJsv/mtk-easy-su
Hope it helps

davestuarts said:
Looking at the guides, I ran into a problem straight away, Bootloader cannot be unlocked, oh damn!
it's a EE (UK) branded phone.
As it's now 2020, has any exploit been found to atleast root it?
I've searched through forums and web, not much direction on it.
Thank ahead
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Only just seen your post and it seems you found mtk-su to get you going. :good:
I am curious about the bootloader though.
1. Did you try the official Sony bootloader unlocking procedure ? If you did at what part did it fail.
Normally it's just a SIM/Network lock that EE and other providers have so removing that may then allow the bootloader to be unlocked as I can't really see any difference in the firmware's except a few pre installed app's.
EE charge £8.99 for the SIM unlock code on second hand phones According EE's Help HERE If nothing else it will make it more usable and saleable.
I have a stock based ROM that's got most of junk removed and I replaced the dialer, contacts, launcher and other apps with Googles own apps If you do manage unlock the bootloader.
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