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Pixel xl or mate 9

What do you guys think is better pixel xl or mate 9? I currently have a pixel xl 128gb and I am not really enjoying it too much.

Both good phones but for better support stick with the XL but if you didn't have the XL I'd say get the Mate 9. Both great devices. Can't go wrong with either one. Mate 9 battery is better and sound. Screen and camera are better on the Pixel. That's the main gains and trade offs between them both.

The Mate 9 offers an expansion slot for micro sd cards and has an infrared port for controlling your TV etc.

Mate 9. Buying new Nexus device upon release hasn't been fun since nexus 4 for me. I normally wait a year or so till price drops.

Pixel xl

The most important feature for me is screen real estate so the Mate 9 takes the crown.
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There's really no competition for it right now

Pixel XL camera is only good with HDR enabled. Otherwise, its a piece of trash tbh. It lacks OIS so its not good. I had Pixel XL for 1 month, its good in network reception when compared to Samsung devices. Camera is debate able. I looked into Huawei mate 9, and its amazing device! It has strong network chip that supports LTE cat 12/13, similar to pixel xl and g5. Mate 9 has more bands enabled for WCDMA and LTE. For me, $1K CAD price, i would pick mate 9 since its android, or iphone 7 plus (if i didn't hate IOS and closed ecosystem).
Pixel XL isn't worth such a high price, if you look at it objectively, its just not.
But do your research and see what you prefer, in terms of usage and what not. For general to enthusiastic users, mate 9 or oneplus 3T are good devices.

jordy787 said:
What do you guys think is better pixel xl or mate 9? I currently have a pixel xl 128gb and I am not really enjoying it too much.
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I use both on a daily basis. Pixel XL 128gb is my personal phone, Mate 9 is work issued.
Since you posted in the Mate 9 forum, you will get a lot of Mate 9 love. And I understand that because I love my Mate 9 too. I love both the Pixel XL and the Mate 9. When you say that you are not enjoying it too much, do you mean that you are bored with it? Because I am too. I guess that is what Vanilla Android is. But the Pixel will always be the better phone. The fact that it is pure Vanilla Android, the smoothness of its UI and will always be in the latest version is what you paid for. The camera is rated best camera by every single reviewer, and even in my own comparison. Screen is sharper, specially if you use daydream which the Mate 9 isnt compatible with. And even if it is compatible, its screen PPI wont be as enjoyable as the Pixels. You get unlimited full res photo backup (which is a pretty big deal for me as I have moved my entire lifes photo collection to Google Photos)
Yes im bored with the Pixel too. When I got the Mate 9 it was like a breath of fresh air. Screen is bigger and the UI seems to be more "colorful". Camera is also pretty good. But the Pixel will still best it. After the honeymoon phase of my new Mate 9, it got boring too. As with every device I own. In my opinion, battery is better with the Mate 9. But not by much. The Pixel already lasts me a whole day. Both are on Android Nougat, but guess who will receive first the next major iteration of Android (O) ? And even Android (P)? You get dual sim support which is nice to have (but doesnt really matter to me as work issues its own phones).
So if I had to choose only 1, id stay with my Pixel XL. The Pixel is the better phone (in my opinion) especially when you take into account its long term use (future upgradeability). But if you are a gadget freak like me and change phones all the time, it probably wont matter. As soon as the next gen Pixel is out ill get my hands on one.

jordy787 said:
What do you guys think is better pixel xl or mate 9? I currently have a pixel xl 128gb and I am not really enjoying it too much.
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It's not like you can buy a Pixel XL anyway. They haven't been in stock since November and won't be in stock again until March. By then, a lot of newer phones will be out that blow the Pixel away. If you want a new phone now, the Mate 9 is your choice. It's a solid phone.

bimmerboii said:
I use both on a daily basis. Pixel XL 128gb is my personal phone, Mate 9 is work issued.
Since you posted in the Mate 9 forum, you will get a lot of Mate 9 love. And I understand that because I love my Mate 9 too. I love both the Pixel XL and the Mate 9. When you say that you are not enjoying it too much, do you mean that you are bored with it? Because I am too. I guess that is what Vanilla Android is. But the Pixel will always be the better phone. The fact that it is pure Vanilla Android, the smoothness of its UI and will always be in the latest version is what you paid for. The camera is rated best camera by every single reviewer, and even in my own comparison. Screen is sharper, specially if you use daydream which the Mate 9 isnt compatible with. And even if it is compatible, its screen PPI wont be as enjoyable as the Pixels. You get unlimited full res photo backup (which is a pretty big deal for me as I have moved my entire lifes photo collection to Google Photos)
Yes im bored with the Pixel too. When I got the Mate 9 it was like a breath of fresh air. Screen is bigger and the UI seems to be more "colorful". Camera is also pretty good. But the Pixel will still best it. After the honeymoon phase of my new Mate 9, it got boring too. As with every device I own. In my opinion, battery is better with the Mate 9. But not by much. The Pixel already lasts me a whole day. Both are on Android Nougat, but guess who will receive first the next major iteration of Android (O) ? And even Android (P)? You get dual sim support which is nice to have (but doesnt really matter to me as work issues its own phones).
So if I had to choose only 1, id stay with my Pixel XL. The Pixel is the better phone (in my opinion) especially when you take into account its long term use (future upgradeability). But if you are a gadget freak like me and change phones all the time, it probably wont matter. As soon as the next gen Pixel is out ill get my hands on one.
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I think I'm just bored of it because vanilla Android is plain. I have a Verizon model with locked bootloader which is AWFUL..So can't modify anything.Hopefully someone comes out with a 7.1.1 exploit. I use to have a mate 8 and loved it..Maybe I'll give the mate 9 a try in a month or so

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It's not like you can buy a Pixel XL anyway. They haven't been in stock since November and won't be in stock again until March. By then, a lot of newer phones will be out that blow the Pixel away. If you want a new phone now, the Mate 9 is your choice. It's a solid phone.
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I already have the pixel, but may give the mate 9 a try.

bimmerboii said:
I use both on a daily basis. Pixel XL 128gb is my personal phone, Mate 9 is work issued.
Since you posted in the Mate 9 forum, you will get a lot of Mate 9 love. And I understand that because I love my Mate 9 too. I love both the Pixel XL and the Mate 9. When you say that you are not enjoying it too much, do you mean that you are bored with it? Because I am too. I guess that is what Vanilla Android is. But the Pixel will always be the better phone. The fact that it is pure Vanilla Android, the smoothness of its UI and will always be in the latest version is what you paid for. The camera is rated best camera by every single reviewer, and even in my own comparison. Screen is sharper, specially if you use daydream which the Mate 9 isnt compatible with. And even if it is compatible, its screen PPI wont be as enjoyable as the Pixels. You get unlimited full res photo backup (which is a pretty big deal for me as I have moved my entire lifes photo collection to Google Photos)
Yes im bored with the Pixel too. When I got the Mate 9 it was like a breath of fresh air. Screen is bigger and the UI seems to be more "colorful". Camera is also pretty good. But the Pixel will still best it. After the honeymoon phase of my new Mate 9, it got boring too. As with every device I own. In my opinion, battery is better with the Mate 9. But not by much. The Pixel already lasts me a whole day. Both are on Android Nougat, but guess who will receive first the next major iteration of Android (O) ? And even Android (P)? You get dual sim support which is nice to have (but doesnt really matter to me as work issues its own phones).
So if I had to choose only 1, id stay with my Pixel XL. The Pixel is the better phone (in my opinion) especially when you take into account its long term use (future upgradeability). But if you are a gadget freak like me and change phones all the time, it probably wont matter. As soon as the next gen Pixel is out ill get my hands on one.
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Best honest response, and I've owned both and agree. Pixel XL 2 is so... Tempting. I looked and they go for $650, I'll wait until they go a little lower but it's tempting.

Jess813 said:
Best honest response, and I've owned both and agree. Pixel XL 2 is so... Tempting. I looked and they go for $650, I'll wait until they go a little lower but it's tempting.
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For me it's a no-brainer the mate 9 is the best device to have. I've owned both and I can attest that the mate 9 is a beast of a phone. It has the large screen great camera and great display although it's only 1080p. Feels very good and premium with its all aluminum housing. But what really separates this phone from all the others is really two things the first is the Kirin 960 processor and the 4000 milliamp battery. The processor was able to handle everything that I threw at it even high-end High intensive Graphics games and I had maybe 40-50 apps open at the same time and never experienced a freeze or slow down. But that's not even the best part the best part is that the battery I routinely use my phone at least 40-50 times a day and for long periods and I always got at least a day and a half sometimes two days of use from one charge. And it accomplish this feat by not putting a battery that makes it too bulky or too wide or something like that it's just a regular slim battery and it actually does get you through about 2 days of use. I love the phone and can't wait to purchase the 10 Pro despite the US government's warning. You know what I think about that warning I think it's a bunch of baloney because every single phone that we use whether it's a Samsung or an apple comes from a factory in China they're all made on the same assembly line so don't give me any of this stupid warning stuff.

danpedraza said:
For me it's a no-brainer the mate 9 is the best device to have. I've owned both and I can attest that the mate 9 is a beast of a phone. It has the large screen great camera and great display although it's only 1080p. Feels very good and premium with its all aluminum housing. But what really separates this phone from all the others is really two things the first is the Kirin 960 processor and the 4000 milliamp battery. The processor was able to handle everything that I threw at it even high-end High intensive Graphics games and I had maybe 40-50 apps open at the same time and never experienced a freeze or slow down. But that's not even the best part the best part is that the battery I routinely use my phone at least 40-50 times a day and for long periods and I always got at least a day and a half sometimes two days of use from one charge. And it accomplish this feat by not putting a battery that makes it too bulky or too wide or something like that it's just a regular slim battery and it actually does get you through about 2 days of use. I love the phone and can't wait to purchase the 10 Pro despite the US government's warning. You know what I think about that warning I think it's a bunch of baloney because every single phone that we use whether it's a Samsung or an apple comes from a factory in China they're all made on the same assembly line so don't give me any of this stupid warning stuff.
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Agreed, the Mate 10 Pro or the Pixel will be my next phone. I am currently rocking the all black Mate 9, I have no complaints, but the Pixel line up is tempting. I'm keeping my eyes on Swappa and they have 2 Mate 10 Pro for around $550, not bad.

Which cell is just as good as the 20x mate?

What After adding to Huawei blacklist Trump that big screen cell phone would be good to buy. I love my 20x mate but let's be honest this will affect a lot to Huawei and q out your operating system and my OS) or is apps that has Google market are going to happen years it is possible that the factory only dedicated to continue selling in China and no longer internationally.

I honestly don't think there are any as good.
I didn't want to buy a Huawei because I'd much rather have an unlocked bootloader, but for me, the big screen, active pen, big battery, and fast cpu are too important to give up.
If you don't mind a slower CPU and no pen, but still want the huge screen, go with the Mi Max series.
If you want the pen, go with the Samsung Note 9.
I you just want an overall good phone, then there are plenty of other options depending on your priorities.
But I'd stick with the Mate 20 X. We shouldn't be affected that much. I'd guessing there will still be software updates for next year or so. I just bought mine 2 weeks ago and don't regret it at all.

I want a mate 20x another brand y :laugh:

Cmon, u really run already.
All will be good again in one way or another [emoji1787][emoji23]

ZenFone 6!! Looks promising.

Actually i would go for zenfone as first choice, then mi max and in last place this could be samsung note series, depends on what battery will be in 10 release.

I'm thinking about the Oppo Reno 10x Zoom, nice looking phone with full flat screen/no notch, camera upgrade or the Nubia Red Magic 3 with a 90Hz screen and also a 5000mAh battery. I now that that both are 6.65 inch and smaller then the Mate 20 X, but i hide the notch from the begin, so i think the difference wil not be huge.
The ZenFone 6 is a no go for me, because it doesn't have a amoled screen. I really don't want a new phone without it.

robsmith11 said:
I honestly don't think there are any as good.
I didn't want to buy a Huawei because I'd much rather have an unlocked bootloader, but for me, the big screen, active pen, big battery, and fast cpu are too important to give up.
If you don't mind a slower CPU and no pen, but still want the huge screen, go with the Mi Max series.
If you want the pen, go with the Samsung Note 9.
I you just want an overall good phone, then there are plenty of other options depending on your priorities.
But I'd stick with the Mate 20 X. We shouldn't be affected that much. I'd guessing there will still be software updates for next year or so. I just bought mine 2 weeks ago and don't regret it at all.
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Yeah I am in the same boat...I mean already the Mate 20 x looks like a Hobbit compared to where I was coming from mediapad X2 and Sony Z3 Tablet Compact so I am having a hard time adjusting to the much smaller size but of course, the hardware itself is WAY above both of those phablets I had before.

All of these other phones are much narrower and smaller than the 20 X. A friend of mine wanted to try the OP7 Pro and we went to T-Mobile yesterday and he bought one to use along side his 20 X but after a day he said it's probably going back as it's just way too small. The camera isn't as good and the battery life isn't even close to the 20 X. My advice would be to keep the 20 X until another manufacturer decides to make a phone as large as the 20 X.

ajsmsg78 said:
All of these other phones are much narrower and smaller than the 20 X. A friend of mine wanted to try the OP7 Pro and we went to T-Mobile yesterday and he bought one to use along side his 20 X but after a day he said it's probably going back as it's just way too small. The camera isn't as good and the battery life isn't even close to the 20 X. My advice would be to keep the 20 X until another manufacturer decides to make a phone as large as the 20 X.
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But the OP7 Pro looks smaller because it has curved glass, what i really don't like.

I still think it's all going to blow over and in a few months the wotsit in a wig and china will come to some sort of agreement, somewhat annoying that Donald making a decision like this affects us non Americans!
But, if the worst happened, as long as the play store etc was ok then I'd probably just carry on and keep using the Mate 20 X, Android P works fine for me so I can live with the phone staying as it is for another 12 months or so.
The only tempting part will be when the Pixel 4 and Note 10 are released and seeing what they are bringing with them, but they'd have to offer something ridiculously special which i doubt they will do

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
But the OP7 Pro looks smaller because it has curved glass, what i really don't like.
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The OP7 Pro also has a 19.5:9 aspect ratio which is skinnier than the Mate 20 X's 18.7:9 and the crappy curved glass doesn't help. It sucks with phones when you live in the US. Not a lot of Global devices support all the US LTE bands.

Hi guys,
What other phone is just as good as the 20x ?
Answer is really simple : NONE.
Please don't get me wrong : I am by no means a Huawei/Honor fan.
Quite the opposite...
But let's face it : what other manufacturer offer a display that is close or above 7" ?
Answer here is really simple : there are only 2.5 manufacturers doing this :
- Xiaomi with the mi Max 3 ;
- Honor with the Note 10 and 8x Max ;
- Huawei with the Mate 20x.
Compare the 20x with the mi Max 3 and the Honor 8x max is of course not a question. They're simply not playing in the same league.
One may say whatever he wants about the Kirin SoC, but comparing a Kirin 980 with e snapdragon 636 is just not fair.
And comparing an IPS display with an OLED one isn't a fair comparison either.
So that leaves the Honor Note 10.
But it may have the same issues as Huawei. about Android.
And to make things clear : the developlment of Android has been halted to Huawei.
But :
- that doesn't mean that the past is getting rid off ; so if the phone is working right now, it will continue to work right after...
- Huawei still has access to the free source aosp and has enough power to continue to offer some updates based on that. And honestly : who is buying Huawei for the frequent updates ? You want a phone that is updated constantly ? There's only one manufacturer to go : Xiaomi... monthly updates for all their phones.
Just my own thoughts and expressing a personal opinion. I don't try to force my views on this upon any member of this community. So please, do not flame me if you disagree...
Regards.

I had all 4 phones, now i only have the M20X which is so much better the the other 3.
Then comes Note 10, Mi max 3 and 8X max.
And im satisfied as it is, so i can live with it 1 year more if.
I just hope Ark OS soon will be released, im ready to support that vs Trump/US/Google/Android no matter what. This fake president shall not decide my choice of phone.

Even if I am upset about Huawei system update policies, I've never been so comfortable with a phone before (well, maybe the Ascend Mate 7).
- The REAL dual speakers are incredibly outstanding. My wife ditched the iPad Mini-bluetooth speaker pair to start watching anything video-related on my 20X with me. We are really impressed.
- Speaking of multimedia, the screen is simply gorgeous.
- I hadn't ANY issue with ANY game. Period. I know the 855 is all around the news today, but this Kirin is nowhere behind. It flies.
- Calls are loud and crisp, seomthing which is really important for me.
- We have an LG Smart TV with webOS. It took me like 1 minute to launch the desktop from the 20X. I've tested it a couple of times, but I think this feature is something I will start using more frequently in the future, for sure.
- One of the best cameras around, even in night mode. No, no GCam needed, it does its work effortlessly and fluidly, something every frigging flagship camera should do (and not every one of them do).
Even if I only get security patches for the rest of its life, I'm keeping this beauty for a LONG time.

I also love the speakers, what phone has two real speakers? Mostly the second speaker is the call speaker now and that's sounds bad. The same with the IR blaster, what new phone has that?
I wish that 5G version was a nice upgrade (WQHD+ screen, higher ppi, 90hz, under–screen fingerprint, more ram/storage, no notch, more zoom camera), but it looks more like a downgrade.
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_20_x_5g_bags_3c_certification_in_china-news-37546.php

Oukitel K9 7.12" with 6000mAH battery
I have this device
looks like a 20x clone minus some of the polish-not as fast not as loud but am sure can be improved a lot
has all US bands like 20x so works great here
stock Android 9
I got the SP flash tool flashable ROM
attached are the ROM contents
wonder if anyone could take up this for development
I picked it up from AliExpress for $179
Great great battery life better than 20x imo (but then performance is a price you pay-could be the Mediatek versus Kirin and just s/w ui polish missing)
EDIT it does have OEM bootloader unlocker option that you can choose and set active
not tried it yet-maybe it is a simple fastboot unlocker command without code (don't know untl I try or I might ask the company contacts who sent me the ROM and instructions etc)

mac231us said:
Mediatek versus Kirin and just s/w ui polish missing)
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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good you got a laugh from the wrong end he he
for calls, sms, mms, internet and most apps same result for 1/3rd the price
the 0.3 cumulative seconds saved over time did not change my life (doubt changes anyone's in reality)
definitely the 20x feels better no doubt having used both
asked a serious question and posed facts without embellishment
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BigDisplay said:
I had all 4 phones, now i only have the M20X which is so much better the the other 3.
Then comes Note 10, Mi max 3 and 8X max.
And im satisfied as it is, so i can live with it 1 year more if.
I just hope Ark OS soon will be released, im ready to support that vs Trump/US/Google/Android no matter what. This fake president shall not decide my choice of phone.
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the mi max 3 imo was the best among the lot and I liked it more than the 20x ...the lack of network bands support (only 4 and 5 for Tmobile and ATT, and ATT does not even broadcast on 4 in my state, 5 is very spotty-so it was mostly on 3g or umts) otherwise mi max 3 with miui candy was the best also from balance, weight and feel standpoint
too bad no mi max 4 and mi mix 4 will never get a 6.9 variant
it seems to me that the OEMs are walking away from the large screens
why? 8x max came in the 7.2" first that the mate 20x eventually got
now 9x max is only coming in the 6.59" (as is the 9x)
then you have Xiaomi not doing the max 4
so that tells me the 6.9 to 7.2 era is done or on a pause for now
instead get 6.6 and 6.7 super skinny phones purporting to be large screen phones when they are not due to the elongated aspect ratios

Unfortunately true, aspect 19.5x9 or new 20x9 is killing size, 6.7inch samsung a70 or op 7 pro have real size of old 16x9 phone 6 inch. This is nothing.
I think also that they kill 7 inch products to make space for foldable phones which costs few times more...
But still I hope Huawei will make 30x! Not just hope, but really think it is real.

OnePlus 7 Pro OR Redmi K20 Pro ?

Hi, I decided to change my phone (LG G5) this year, because finally here are the notch-less phones.
I'm really interested by the oneplus 7 pro, the asus zenfone 6 doesn't seem better, but the Xiaomi Redmi k20 is coming soon.
With the same features, but seems smaller (I think that the oneplus is really too big for the one hand use)
But, mostly it's about the OS, miui or oxygen os ?
miui seems close to apple (no thank you) and oxygen close to android stock.
Do you think I should wait the redmi k20 announce ? (28 may) or it doesn't worth to wait ?
Thanks.

trotirider said:
Hi, I decided to change my phone (LG G5) this year, because finally here are the notch-less phones.
I'm really interested by the oneplus 7 pro, the asus zenfone 6 doesn't seem better, but the Xiaomi Redmi k20 is coming soon.
With the same features, but seems smaller (I think that the oneplus is really too big for the one hand use)
But, mostly it's about the OS, miui or oxygen os ?
miui seems close to apple (no thank you) and oxygen close to android stock.
Do you think I should wait the redmi k20 announce ? (28 may) or it doesn't worth to wait ?
Thanks.
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I haven't done full research into the k20 but if the question is between OxygenOS Vs MIUI and generally between how Xiaomi operates Vs OnePlus then I would say OnePlus every day of the week.
I have been personally interested in the Xiaomi Mi phones for a few years but I always see a lack of ROM development, the extended period of time it takes to get your bootloader unlocked, the adverts built into MIUI and the heavy customisation as really big negatives of Xiaomi.
The performance of the OnePlus 7 Pro is fantastic. If you use the GPU Profiling developer setting, even on 90hz 1440p, the phone hardly goes over the green line (or doesn't drop frames) on the stock kernel. Once we get custom kernels up and running from the likes of RenderBroken and Arter97, this thing will absolutely fly!
In terms of size I have smaller hands and I agree that you can't use this phone one handed all of the time. There are things you can do like swipe down for notifications that do help but it's still a two handed phone for some uses. Having said that, that's the way this industry is going so for mez I would need a phone with 5-5.5inch display with all screen display to be truely one handed (HTC 10 was the last phone I could use completely one handed and manage to reach everywhere on the phone without it being awkward).
My view is go for the 7 Pro and you won't regret it.
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Thanks for the detailed reply, I agree with you and I think to buy it tomorrow

trotirider said:
Thanks for the detailed reply, I agree with you and I think to buy it tomorrow
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm7IWLNmqWk

Yeah it seems nice, but I don't really care anymore as I already bought the OP7pro.
The redmi is still not announced in France, I think the redmi k20 is a little better on the hardware, but not the software.
And yes cheaper.
I'm happy with the OP7pro, except a little too much heavy but I don't regret, but it's nice for redmi, the market need flagships killer.

the only downside of OnePlus 7 Pro is the curved screen

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the only downside of OnePlus 7 Pro is the curved screen
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Yes I agree about that too, I didn't think that it was a downside before using it all day.

A flat screen and a headphone jack I'd go with redmi

trotirider said:
Yes I agree about that too, I didn't think that it was a downside before using it all day.
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and the blue tint on the side is quite serious, especially in low light condition

keaheng said:
A flat screen and a headphone jack I'd go with redmi
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Yes I understand, and also if I'm right a better fingerprint sensor.
But what about the OS ?

trotirider said:
Yes I understand, and also if I'm right a better fingerprint sensor.
But what about the OS ?
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OEM skin is a main factor that you have to decide.
Oxygen OS is not perfect either. Killing app on background aggressively is something that oneplus doesn't want to fix. Echo voice on Snapchat Facebook messenger etc. Battery life is not great either.

One plus always !

OnePlus 7Pro for the win!

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Yes I understand, and also if I'm right a better fingerprint sensor.
But what about the OS ?
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You can disable the ads and I am hoping because of the agressive pricing and bootloader unlock there will be tons of custom ROMs so software should not be an issue

I was so about to order the Oneplus 7 pro but now after the K20 pro launch I am having second thoughts.
Can someone please state all the reasons why I must buy OP7 pro over the K20 pro so that my faith in Oneplus is restored again :angel:

keaheng said:
OEM skin is a main factor that you have to decide.
Oxygen OS is not perfect either. Killing app on background aggressively is something that oneplus doesn't want to fix. Echo voice on Snapchat Facebook messenger etc. Battery life is not great either.
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I just disagree about this point, the battery is awesome.
I charged it yesterday morning 100%, I used it a lot as a new phone a lot of config, but also videos à 100% brightness (screen at 90hz)
I only charge it during the car (watching video 100% too and low charging in car), not charging during the night, this morning I am at 61%.
And another good point, screen at 100%, videos, games, install apps etc.. and no heat.
This is the first time I don't need to charge a phone during my sleep.

Interested to see how well the K20 pro works with Oxygen OS flashed on it. Cheaper phone with OOS, that'll do nicely.

K20, it has a headphone jack, I won't feed tard companies that wants to force you to buy new headphones that are inferior to the ones with cable at this point.

I went for the 9t pro.. Flat screen, headphone jack and £300 cheaper for similar spec - 8gb/256gb model... A no brainer imo... No adware I can see and I use nova launcher anyway re GUI. Awesome. Would've liked regular software updates but for the price .....

I own the K20 pro before the OnePlus 7 pro,the display under sunlight it's like cheap oled screen the colour is bad, fingerprint doesn't recognize all the time if your finger is dirt or wet, the miui have a lot of bugs, the front camera capture the coverbord if you use the full body cover and is little annoying
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the fingerprint is BAD on k20 pro

find X2 pro on EE

Just received my oppo find X2 pro this morning from EE.
Brilliant phone!
I recently had the Samsung S20 ultra (exynos) and wow this is miles better ? 12gb ram 512gb storage what a beast?.
I did think it was a dual SIM phone unpon ordering even tho I don't use 2 Sims it seems weird how they removed this feature.

Disappointing not dual SIM.
Lovely piece of kit almost as good as Huawei p40 pro.

It's a very nice screen and very quick but the camera is very underwhelming so far

andywright1982 said:
It's a very nice screen and very quick but the camera is very underwhelming so far
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What issues do you have? You seem to be in the very tiny minority of people disappointed by the camera. According to the online reviews, I can't stop loving it.

Killer007TV said:
What issues do you have? You seem to be in the very tiny minority of people disappointed by the camera. According to the online reviews, I can't stop loving it.
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The images are too cool. My 18m old mate 20 pro takes sharper pics and my iPhone 11 takes better video and warmer pictures.
Unfortunately I will be returning it unless gcam significantly improves it

andywright1982 said:
The images are too cool. My 18m old mate 20 pro takes sharper pics and my iPhone 11 takes better video and warmer pictures.
Unfortunately I will be returning it unless gcam significantly improves it
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That's strange, Find X2 Pro is overall praised for its excellent color reproduction. Detail is also top tier, actually even beating P40 Pro by a very slight margin (in ideal lighting conditions).
My advice is: don't return it. ColorOS 7.2 is about to come (I'd give it 2-3 months before it reaches us) and, among other nice improvements, it releases Oppo Camera SDK allowing other apps (such as Snapchat, Instagram, gcam) use all its lenses.
So if you're willing to wait with maybe a little bit less top-tier camera (perfectly top-tier and well-rounded in my opinion though) by then, you will get a very capable gcam rather soon.

Nah, I will return it. If 7.2 improves it enough I will buy it again at a reduced price

Welcome to England where you can buy things use them and again use them, then you feel disappointed and sen it back, then after couple of days you buy it again but this time cheaper
The phone is good stop whining

I've had the S20 ultra and the iPhone 11 pro and p40 pro this year and I'm impressed with the camera on this phone compared to them and I'm not saying there crap as there all good shooters and there's many strengths and weaknesses in all of them, I think it's very similar to the p40 pro but I prefere the colour this phone produces rather than the p40 pro as the p40 seems over saturated a lot of the time to me where this phone seems more life like.
It's a brilliant phone and I will certainly be upgrading to the next oppo find x next year regardless to what apple and Samsung, Huawei, Google bring out in the future.
Holding this phone compared to anything else, you get to realise how premium this phone is.

alleshi said:
Welcome to England where you can buy things use them and again use them, then you feel disappointed and sen it back, then after couple of days you buy it again but this time cheaper
The phone is good stop whining
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The phone is good. But for £1100 I expect more than just good. My 18m mate 20 pro is better in every way except refresh rate and processor. Gone back to that and haven’t looked back

Wouldn't have another SoC other than Snapdragon hence why I didn't get a Samsung or Huawei, Kirin & Exynos will forever be inferior

Out of interest, what firmware version is the EE supplied handsets running?
My SIM free from Amazon is currently at CPH2025CPW_11_A.30
It has CPW in the name which is not showing in the name of the version on their website. ROM versions get a bit confusing! I think Vodafone is VF but not sure if EE has its own version.
Also whilst I remember, if you are in a 5G area, does it work OK and show 5G in the top? I've got 5G enabled but when I do a manual search for providers it doesn't show anyone with 5G but I know the local 3 mast is 5G! I thought that would be in the list
Cheers

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Out of interest, what firmware version is the EE supplied handsets running?
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EE is CPH2025EE_11.A.30

Question Xiaomi Mix Fold 2 vs HONOR Magic Vs

Hey guys,
I have just ordered myself the HONOR Magic Vs (Live in the UK) so I'll be able to do some comparison between the two devices.
Just from the spec sheets, they do look quite similar with the Thinness aspect going to the Mix Fold 2 and the Battery size going to the Magic Vs...
The biggest plus of the Magic Vs is the "Global" factor. It has full Google support, and no Chinese bloatware (which is a little strange for a Huawei... aahhh sorry HONOR device )
For more specific impressions, after I receive it. Should only take a couple of days (I hope) It is a local UK delivery after all...
Another thing to consider is the price! Currently, it is "only" £1199 with the £200 discount promo code they give you when you register at the hihonor.com website. The standard price after 25.05 will be £1399 or 1599 Euro in some EU countries...
If you would like to know anything specific, just ask. I'll answer all questions when I get it.

OrionBG said:
Hey guys,
I have just ordered myself the HONOR Magic Vs (Live in the UK) so I'll be able to do some comparison between the two devices.
Just from the spec sheets, they do look quite similar with the Thinness aspect going to the Mix Fold 2 and the Battery size going to the Magic Vs...
The biggest plus of the Magic Vs is the "Global" factor. It has full Google support, and no Chinese bloatware (which is a little strange for a Huawei... aahhh sorry HONOR device )
For more specific impressions, after I receive it. Should only take a couple of days (I hope) It is a local UK delivery after all...
Another thing to consider is the price! Currently, it is "only" £1199 with the £200 discount promo code they give you when you register at the hihonor.com website. The standard price after 25.05 will be £1399 or 1599 Euro in some EU countries...
If you would like to know anything specific, just ask. I'll answer all questions when I get it.
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I thought about buying the Honor Magic Vs or Tecno Phantom V Fold. But the Honor inner screen is max 90Hz and has a camera hole. Tecno is not really known yet.
So i bought the Xiaomi Fold 2 in sale (€1000), unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. I made it more global with Magisk modules.
Before the Xiaomi Fold 2 i had the Vivo X Fold. It has great camera's, loved the two in-display fingerprint readers and mute switch. But thinks like Android Auto didn't work and Vivo doesn't want you to unlock the bootloader.
I skip the Oppo Find N2 and maybe also the Google Pixel Fold because i don't like it in size.
Still curious what you think about the Honor Magic Vs.

Since you asked it here on XDA forum, of course I will recommend Xiaomi devices over Huawei/Honor ones. I will never take a device with non-unlockable bootloader into account!

I have both.
TBH I prefer the Xiaomi. Even though the Honor magic vs has full GMS /Android auto so you dont need to root, it lacks basics like wifi calling/volte

If it didn't have the internal selfie camera, I might have been more inclined. This is one of the deciding factors for the Mix Fold 2 too. Completely un-interrupted inner screen.

m1key said:
I have both.
TBH I prefer the Xiaomi. Even though the Honor magic vs has full GMS /Android auto so you dont need to root, it lacks basics like wifi calling/volte
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And what about the camera's comparison?

m1key said:
I have both.
TBH I prefer the Xiaomi. Even though the Honor magic vs has full GMS /Android auto so you dont need to root, it lacks basics like wifi calling/volte
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Mine got delivered today so I'll check this tonight but according to other people in the Honor forums, WiFi Calling/Volte work fine...

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
And what about the camera's?
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Cameras are 50MP Main, 6MP Telephoto with 3x optical zoom, and 50MP Wide angle. Should be able to produce quite reasonable results.

xiaomifolduser said:
If it didn't have the internal selfie camera, I might have been more inclined. This is one of the deciding factors for the Mix Fold 2 too. Completely un-interrupted inner screen.
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Yeah, the camera hole can be annoying but all other foldables I've owned had it (except the Mix Fold 2) that I'm used to it. If the software can be made to ignore it, I'll be reasonably happy...

Hey guys,
I've been playing for a while with the Magic Vs and here are some initial thoughts of mine:
1. Everything just works! Global ROM is a blessing that you can only fully appreciate after you had several years of Chinese ROMs on Devices not made for Global use. Even some apps look a little different than the versions I have in the Mix Fold 2. All google services are happily running, Android Auto is integrated into the software.
The only thing that makes me miss Root a little bit is AdAway. It still works but with Root it works better. All My banking apps work flawlessly, Fingerprint is not iffy with them (have an issue with it in the Lloyds Banking App on the Mix Fold 2)
2. Hardware and build quality wise it is quite nice. It feels as good as the Mix Fold 2. The camera hole on the internal screen is not that bad although I know some people will hate it. Battery life seems better for now but it is too early for that. I'll have to use it at least for a week to give you more accurate notes on that.
The sound is on par and maybe a little bit better sounding... Most probable because there is a little bit more space inside for better speaker chambers... Don't know... A lot nicer rind and Alarm melodies BTW
On that note, the device does not feel any thicker than the Mix Fold 2. Both screens are a couple of mm smaller but the difference is negligible...
3. No notification issues so far... The is one strange thing that all app notifications are not enabled by default but the first time you start the app, it will ask for all needed permissions like in a normal phone for the Global market.
Google Assistant is fully integrated and working. "Hey Google" works even on a locked phone.
The always-on display shows all notifications. NetFlix is fully supported with HDR10...
Basically, it shows what the Mix Fold 2 could have been if it had proper Global software.

One more interesting thing I found just now is that due to some Honor... Magic... the Gboard keyboard switches from a normal one to the split type the moment you go to the big screen... and stays like that in both portrait and landscape... Miracle

I'm doubtful to buy the Honor Magic vs. The 12GB/512GB global model now only costs €1005 at pdaplaza, but i've now got pretty much everything working on my Xiaomi Mix Fold 2. Choices.