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Worth the price increase over a 6X / alternatives

Mentioned this in the 6X forum, but figured I'll ask here, too.
I need a phone for travelling. My main phone is an iPhone 6S, but I want something a little cheaper and with dual SIM support so I can use my normal number with a another SIM whilst abroad. Having used Android way before iPhone, and owning a Shield Tablet and TV, figured it'd be a nice way to get back into Android.
I returned a OnePlus 3T last month because, although good, I didn't like the camera.
So, I'm looking for a budget device, that has a decent spec (occasional gaming) and pretty good camera, fingerprint scanner and possibly NFC for Android Pay. USB-C and fast charge would be nice.
I've been looking at the WileyFox Swift 2 which is about £180. Snapdragon 430, 3GB RAM, fingerprint scanner, NFC, USB-C and quick charge. Low res screen (720), slower CPU and 'okay' camera. Gorilla glass.
£40 more is the 6X, EU version has all of the above, but no USB-C, terrible screen quality in terms of durability and no oleohobic coating. Micro USB. Not sure on CPU performance.
Or the best of the bunch, the Honor 8. Only it's £180 more than the 6X.
Is it worth the price over the other 2, or is there something else I can look at. Xiaomi's seem good, but lack LTE 800mhz / band 20 and no NFC for the global versions of the Redmi Note 4, which ships in March.

The only thing I can say is that the Honor 8 is an amazing device, I got mine for 325€ during a sale and I haven't regretted it...
The camera is amazing! It is so much better than my old Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini, and it can shoot really sharp images (In good lightning)
However if there isn't that much light, images will become a little grainy (As on most smartphones)
Then we have the software... I almost got the Honor 7 in 2015 but I ended up not buying it because of the software (EMUI). But since I got such a great deal on the Honor 8 I decided to actually try it out and I must say EMUI 4.1 which I got the phone with was a lot different from my previous Android experience (Cyanogenmod 13) but it so many good features built in.
And today I got the EMUI 5 update and I must say, it's a lot closer to AOSP and I like it
Also this phone is very fast!
If you can get this phone for under 400€ then it's a great deal! I don't know that much about the other phones mentioned but I really recommend the Honor 8! Hope this helps you decide, if you have any questions regarding the Honor 8 feel free to ask

If you returned the oneplus3T because it wasn't good enough, nothing will please you.

Got myself upgrade from galaxy note 3.
I thought it was fast but honor 8 is faster in all aspects.
This is the best phone I used

The only thing I can say is that the Honor 8 is an amazing device, I got mine for 325€ during a sale and I haven't regretted it...
The camera is amazing! It is so much better than my old Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini, and it can shoot really sharp images (In good lightning)
However if there isn't that much light, images will become a little grainy (As on most smartphones)
Then we have the software... I almost got the Honor 7 in 2015 but I ended up not buying it because of the software (EMUI). But since I got such a great deal on the Honor 8 I decided to actually try it out and I must say EMUI 4.1 which I got the phone with was a lot different from my previous Android experience (Cyanogenmod 13) but it so many good features built in.
And today I got the EMUI 5 update and I must say, it's a lot closer to AOSP and I like it
Also this phone is very fast!
If you can get this phone for under 400€ then it's a great deal! I don't know that much about the other phones mentioned but I really recommend the Honor 8! Hope this helps you decide, if you have any questions regarding the Honor 8 feel free to ask
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I've ordered one, should be here today. Couldn't decide between this and he Lenovo P2, but there's an issue with the mic and the camera isn't as good. Looking forward to testing it today
SolarisSixth said:
If you returned the oneplus3T because it wasn't good enough, nothing will please you.
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Huh? I didn't say it wasn't good enough. Everything other than the camera and mic quality was perfect.
For example. I took a photo of my dog as he was barking for attention, with both my 6S and the 3T. The 6S could capture the photo, the 3T pic was blurred. The only way to remedy this was to use manual mode and increase the shutter speed, and even then, I couldn't use flash. Mic quality in wasn't outstanding in Whatsapp etc.

Which cell is just as good as the 20x mate?

What After adding to Huawei blacklist Trump that big screen cell phone would be good to buy. I love my 20x mate but let's be honest this will affect a lot to Huawei and q out your operating system and my OS) or is apps that has Google market are going to happen years it is possible that the factory only dedicated to continue selling in China and no longer internationally.

I honestly don't think there are any as good.
I didn't want to buy a Huawei because I'd much rather have an unlocked bootloader, but for me, the big screen, active pen, big battery, and fast cpu are too important to give up.
If you don't mind a slower CPU and no pen, but still want the huge screen, go with the Mi Max series.
If you want the pen, go with the Samsung Note 9.
I you just want an overall good phone, then there are plenty of other options depending on your priorities.
But I'd stick with the Mate 20 X. We shouldn't be affected that much. I'd guessing there will still be software updates for next year or so. I just bought mine 2 weeks ago and don't regret it at all.

I want a mate 20x another brand y :laugh:

Cmon, u really run already.
All will be good again in one way or another [emoji1787][emoji23]

ZenFone 6!! Looks promising.

Actually i would go for zenfone as first choice, then mi max and in last place this could be samsung note series, depends on what battery will be in 10 release.

I'm thinking about the Oppo Reno 10x Zoom, nice looking phone with full flat screen/no notch, camera upgrade or the Nubia Red Magic 3 with a 90Hz screen and also a 5000mAh battery. I now that that both are 6.65 inch and smaller then the Mate 20 X, but i hide the notch from the begin, so i think the difference wil not be huge.
The ZenFone 6 is a no go for me, because it doesn't have a amoled screen. I really don't want a new phone without it.

robsmith11 said:
I honestly don't think there are any as good.
I didn't want to buy a Huawei because I'd much rather have an unlocked bootloader, but for me, the big screen, active pen, big battery, and fast cpu are too important to give up.
If you don't mind a slower CPU and no pen, but still want the huge screen, go with the Mi Max series.
If you want the pen, go with the Samsung Note 9.
I you just want an overall good phone, then there are plenty of other options depending on your priorities.
But I'd stick with the Mate 20 X. We shouldn't be affected that much. I'd guessing there will still be software updates for next year or so. I just bought mine 2 weeks ago and don't regret it at all.
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Yeah I am in the same boat...I mean already the Mate 20 x looks like a Hobbit compared to where I was coming from mediapad X2 and Sony Z3 Tablet Compact so I am having a hard time adjusting to the much smaller size but of course, the hardware itself is WAY above both of those phablets I had before.

All of these other phones are much narrower and smaller than the 20 X. A friend of mine wanted to try the OP7 Pro and we went to T-Mobile yesterday and he bought one to use along side his 20 X but after a day he said it's probably going back as it's just way too small. The camera isn't as good and the battery life isn't even close to the 20 X. My advice would be to keep the 20 X until another manufacturer decides to make a phone as large as the 20 X.

ajsmsg78 said:
All of these other phones are much narrower and smaller than the 20 X. A friend of mine wanted to try the OP7 Pro and we went to T-Mobile yesterday and he bought one to use along side his 20 X but after a day he said it's probably going back as it's just way too small. The camera isn't as good and the battery life isn't even close to the 20 X. My advice would be to keep the 20 X until another manufacturer decides to make a phone as large as the 20 X.
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But the OP7 Pro looks smaller because it has curved glass, what i really don't like.

I still think it's all going to blow over and in a few months the wotsit in a wig and china will come to some sort of agreement, somewhat annoying that Donald making a decision like this affects us non Americans!
But, if the worst happened, as long as the play store etc was ok then I'd probably just carry on and keep using the Mate 20 X, Android P works fine for me so I can live with the phone staying as it is for another 12 months or so.
The only tempting part will be when the Pixel 4 and Note 10 are released and seeing what they are bringing with them, but they'd have to offer something ridiculously special which i doubt they will do

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
But the OP7 Pro looks smaller because it has curved glass, what i really don't like.
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The OP7 Pro also has a 19.5:9 aspect ratio which is skinnier than the Mate 20 X's 18.7:9 and the crappy curved glass doesn't help. It sucks with phones when you live in the US. Not a lot of Global devices support all the US LTE bands.

Hi guys,
What other phone is just as good as the 20x ?
Answer is really simple : NONE.
Please don't get me wrong : I am by no means a Huawei/Honor fan.
Quite the opposite...
But let's face it : what other manufacturer offer a display that is close or above 7" ?
Answer here is really simple : there are only 2.5 manufacturers doing this :
- Xiaomi with the mi Max 3 ;
- Honor with the Note 10 and 8x Max ;
- Huawei with the Mate 20x.
Compare the 20x with the mi Max 3 and the Honor 8x max is of course not a question. They're simply not playing in the same league.
One may say whatever he wants about the Kirin SoC, but comparing a Kirin 980 with e snapdragon 636 is just not fair.
And comparing an IPS display with an OLED one isn't a fair comparison either.
So that leaves the Honor Note 10.
But it may have the same issues as Huawei. about Android.
And to make things clear : the developlment of Android has been halted to Huawei.
But :
- that doesn't mean that the past is getting rid off ; so if the phone is working right now, it will continue to work right after...
- Huawei still has access to the free source aosp and has enough power to continue to offer some updates based on that. And honestly : who is buying Huawei for the frequent updates ? You want a phone that is updated constantly ? There's only one manufacturer to go : Xiaomi... monthly updates for all their phones.
Just my own thoughts and expressing a personal opinion. I don't try to force my views on this upon any member of this community. So please, do not flame me if you disagree...
Regards.

I had all 4 phones, now i only have the M20X which is so much better the the other 3.
Then comes Note 10, Mi max 3 and 8X max.
And im satisfied as it is, so i can live with it 1 year more if.
I just hope Ark OS soon will be released, im ready to support that vs Trump/US/Google/Android no matter what. This fake president shall not decide my choice of phone.

Even if I am upset about Huawei system update policies, I've never been so comfortable with a phone before (well, maybe the Ascend Mate 7).
- The REAL dual speakers are incredibly outstanding. My wife ditched the iPad Mini-bluetooth speaker pair to start watching anything video-related on my 20X with me. We are really impressed.
- Speaking of multimedia, the screen is simply gorgeous.
- I hadn't ANY issue with ANY game. Period. I know the 855 is all around the news today, but this Kirin is nowhere behind. It flies.
- Calls are loud and crisp, seomthing which is really important for me.
- We have an LG Smart TV with webOS. It took me like 1 minute to launch the desktop from the 20X. I've tested it a couple of times, but I think this feature is something I will start using more frequently in the future, for sure.
- One of the best cameras around, even in night mode. No, no GCam needed, it does its work effortlessly and fluidly, something every frigging flagship camera should do (and not every one of them do).
Even if I only get security patches for the rest of its life, I'm keeping this beauty for a LONG time.

I also love the speakers, what phone has two real speakers? Mostly the second speaker is the call speaker now and that's sounds bad. The same with the IR blaster, what new phone has that?
I wish that 5G version was a nice upgrade (WQHD+ screen, higher ppi, 90hz, under–screen fingerprint, more ram/storage, no notch, more zoom camera), but it looks more like a downgrade.
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_20_x_5g_bags_3c_certification_in_china-news-37546.php

Oukitel K9 7.12" with 6000mAH battery
I have this device
looks like a 20x clone minus some of the polish-not as fast not as loud but am sure can be improved a lot
has all US bands like 20x so works great here
stock Android 9
I got the SP flash tool flashable ROM
attached are the ROM contents
wonder if anyone could take up this for development
I picked it up from AliExpress for $179
Great great battery life better than 20x imo (but then performance is a price you pay-could be the Mediatek versus Kirin and just s/w ui polish missing)
EDIT it does have OEM bootloader unlocker option that you can choose and set active
not tried it yet-maybe it is a simple fastboot unlocker command without code (don't know untl I try or I might ask the company contacts who sent me the ROM and instructions etc)

mac231us said:
Mediatek versus Kirin and just s/w ui polish missing)
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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fp1707 said:
Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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good you got a laugh from the wrong end he he
for calls, sms, mms, internet and most apps same result for 1/3rd the price
the 0.3 cumulative seconds saved over time did not change my life (doubt changes anyone's in reality)
definitely the 20x feels better no doubt having used both
asked a serious question and posed facts without embellishment
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I had all 4 phones, now i only have the M20X which is so much better the the other 3.
Then comes Note 10, Mi max 3 and 8X max.
And im satisfied as it is, so i can live with it 1 year more if.
I just hope Ark OS soon will be released, im ready to support that vs Trump/US/Google/Android no matter what. This fake president shall not decide my choice of phone.
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the mi max 3 imo was the best among the lot and I liked it more than the 20x ...the lack of network bands support (only 4 and 5 for Tmobile and ATT, and ATT does not even broadcast on 4 in my state, 5 is very spotty-so it was mostly on 3g or umts) otherwise mi max 3 with miui candy was the best also from balance, weight and feel standpoint
too bad no mi max 4 and mi mix 4 will never get a 6.9 variant
it seems to me that the OEMs are walking away from the large screens
why? 8x max came in the 7.2" first that the mate 20x eventually got
now 9x max is only coming in the 6.59" (as is the 9x)
then you have Xiaomi not doing the max 4
so that tells me the 6.9 to 7.2 era is done or on a pause for now
instead get 6.6 and 6.7 super skinny phones purporting to be large screen phones when they are not due to the elongated aspect ratios

Unfortunately true, aspect 19.5x9 or new 20x9 is killing size, 6.7inch samsung a70 or op 7 pro have real size of old 16x9 phone 6 inch. This is nothing.
I think also that they kill 7 inch products to make space for foldable phones which costs few times more...
But still I hope Huawei will make 30x! Not just hope, but really think it is real.

im i not a pro ? (purchase decision)

so ive been looking to move from my Pixel 3 to a oneplus and.
1- Size:im not into big phones, ive had big ones before and i dont want to go back:
the OP7 is a bit smaller, isnt any noticable on use, or is it just shorte ?
2-Notch:id rather had a teardrop than frankenstein (pop-up)
3- Screen style: straight bezzel is better than curved for me
many complain and i dont think im going to be into the curve
4-Warp charge: would be nice, but not having it aint the end of the world for me
5-Battery: the Non-Pro probably lasts a little more on its 3700 than the 4000 on the pro version taking into consideration the screen ?
6-Resolution and refresh rate: i know ill love it if i see it, but well i can let myself not get used to it, aint that a solution ?
7- MOST IMPORTANT is the camera.... i love my pixel 3 camera and im sad im "downgrading?" but is the OP7 even more of the downgrade from the OP7 pro when it comes to the main shooter if we forget about the wide angle ?
thanks a lot for your time, please weight in
main reason im leaving pixel is that it aint really supported in Norway, so i have problems sometime, no support for 4g calling and wifi-calling which i kinda a killer for me, because im a professional translator and need the call quality
the price difference of 200 euros between OP7 6gb 128gb and OP7P 8gb 256 is not much for me at all, but i just dont want a bigger more expensive phone that i dont really long for currently

If you can buy the op7 pro then go for it.Battery life is better on 7 mainly because of small screen and lower refresh rate and the main shooter performs the same as 7 pro.I personally use op7 and I don't have any complaints

In your case I would by the OP7 (non pro)
I was in the same situation before I bought the standard op7. I also doesn't like the bigger size and the elevator camera. And the curved display is also a con for me.
Camera quality is almost the same if you take normal pictures and nothing special.

Probably the OP7 would work out well...

Camera not great on OnePlus 7 or any other non 7 pro Oneplus,
Maybe go for a Mi 9T or K20 pro or indeed mi 9 which has teardrop notch but good camera,
I would personally get a 7 pro if I didn't already have a 6t.coincidently, I'm thinking of swapping my 6T for a Mi 9T for the greater number of features,better cameras and battery,though am hesitant because I do enjoy quick updates on Oneplus but am realizing a lot of updates are useless updates to weather and other Oneplus apps that you don't need

manus31 said:
Camera not great on OnePlus 7 or any other non 7 pro Oneplus,
Maybe go for a Mi 9T or K20 pro or indeed mi 9 which has teardrop notch but good camera,
I would personally get a 7 pro if I didn't already have a 6t.coincidently, I'm thinking of swapping my 6T for a Mi 9T for the greater number of features,better cameras and battery,though am hesitant because I do enjoy quick updates on Oneplus but am realizing a lot of updates are useless updates to weather and other Oneplus apps that you don't need
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So you didn't have a OP7 and say camera is bad? Makes sense.
I switched from Mi9 to OP7 and I tell you Camera isn't better if you take standard pictures and nothing special. It's almost the same because the main sensor is the same. (48MP Sony IMX 586)

Kollachi said:
So you didn't have a OP7 and say camera is bad? Makes sense.
I switched from Mi9 to OP7 and I tell you Camera isn't better if you take standard pictures and nothing special. It's almost the same because the main sensor is the same. (48MP Sony IMX 586)
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Don't need to have it,read plenty and have the 6T,Ido believe the mi9 is better going on what majority of comparisons I've seen

manus31 said:
Don't need to have it,read plenty and have the 6T,Ido believe the mi9 is better going on what majority of comparisons I've seen
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Believe it or not. OP7 Camera setup isn't the best, that's right but "better" always depends on point of view. It's not right if you say "OP7 is not great". That's absolutely bullsh.. You can take great Pictures even with one less lense.
Btw... I would never trust paid YouTuber...

Kollachi said:
Believe it or not. OP7 Camera setup isn't the best, that's right but "better" always depends on point of view. It's not right if you say "OP7 is not great". That's absolutely bullsh.. You can take great Pictures even with one less lense.
Btw... I would never trust paid YouTuber...
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Sorry for commenting on your new phone dude, your obviously very protective of that bad boy.But having had OnePlus 3,6,and 6T,I still believe OnePlus software is not good enough in the camera department. My 6T sucks without google cam. Xaoimi does it better IMOPO

manus31 said:
Sorry for commenting on your new phone dude, your obviously very protective of that bad boy.But having had OnePlus 3,6,and 6T,I still believe OnePlus software is not good enough in the camera department. My 6T sucks without google cam. Xaoimi does it better IMOPO
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Hi guys! Bought OnePlus 7 last week and have been playing with it for the past few days.
I have had my usage of flagships and budget phone, as my previous smartphones have been Galaxy S1, HTC One X, Motorola Droid RAZR, Xiaomi Mi3, Nexus 6P, Nokia 7 Plus and now OnePlus 7.
I was also very skeptical about the mixed reviews that this phone received for its camera and picture quality but after buying and using it for a brief time period, I am sure of one thing that it certainly is not "GOD level" aka Pixel Camera but the phone is pretty good for the price that is being offered.

Advice from p40 pro owners

Hey whats up , just looking for advice /opinions from p40 pro owners
Ok got me the oneplus 8 pro on (H3G) UK and well that was a big let down in the camera department and battery life not to mention display issues , anyway within my 14 days I can exchange to pretty much any phone they have so camera is pretty important so I toy'd with idea of p40 pro but without Google was a bit off putting so I decided on the S20 Ultra and well let's say I'm not blown away with the camera on that,
has just been updated and is kinda beta especially auto focus was main issue at the time , so my question is should I while I'm still in my 14 days retun S20 ultra for the P40 pro as s20 ultra 100x zoom is well waste of time I know anything pretty much past 30x is a blurr but over all watching YouTube video although samsung looks more natural colour's the detail of the p40 pro can be slightly better its very subjective in most comparisons I can get over the fact there's no Google but should I switch or stick with the ultra and hope samsung can improve further anybody actually switched from s20 ultra to p40 pro and regret it or are you much happier , I know on paper s20 ultra spec wise display ok 120hz at 1080p isn't ideal but display is beautiful and 12gb ram and stereo speakers and tech better front facing cam ,again subjective . I just don't know want to do , thanks for reading hope you can help decide , Lol stay safe [emoji4]
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Personally, I'd prefer the P40P and that's not just because it's cheaper and better value depending on how your needs. It's also important to summarize and weigh up the pros and cons for both devices. If you're in the UK with a Exynos CPU, then I'd personally avoid the S20 Ultra altogether due to the hot attention it's been getting for its inferior battery life and CPU performance.
Screen - Samsung (120hz, brighter and higher quality display, no huge pill-shaped punch hole notch)
Battery Life and Charging - Tie IMO (P40P's 5G chipset is more efficient since it has a built-in 5G modem and Huawei tend to be more memory aggressive with closing down background apps). Exynos S20 Ultra isn't as good as the Snapdragon model as it's less power efficient so its chipsets just aren't created equally. Some proof shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63T5lrDivn8
Camera - P40P (doesn't have the auto focus issues, has superior night mode, slightly better zoom, front cameras are one of the best and even though the wide angle has a smaller field of view, it's a far bigger sensor which lets lets you capture better detailed shots)
Software - Samsung (as Huawei are banned from Google Play Services but you can still sideload most of the apps you need)
Overall aesthetics and design - P40P (mainly down to personal preference but the S20 Ultra is too big and chunky in my opinion and the sleek Frost Silver back, along with the smaller and tidier rear camera bump makes it a winner for me in the attractiveness department)

kyero985 said:
Personally, I'd prefer the P40P and that's not just because it's cheaper and better value depending on how your needs. It's also important to summarize and weigh up the pros and cons for both devices. If you're in the UK with a Exynos CPU, then I'd personally avoid the S20 Ultra altogether due to the hot attention it's been getting for its inferior battery life and CPU performance.
Screen - Samsung (120hz, brighter and higher quality display, no huge pill-shaped punch hole notch)
Battery Life and Charging - Tie IMO (P40P's 5G chipset is more efficient since it has a built-in 5G modem and Huawei tend to be more memory aggressive with closing down background apps). Exynos S20 Ultra isn't as good as the Snapdragon model as it's less power efficient so its chipsets just aren't created equally. Some proof shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63T5lrDivn8
Camera - P40P (doesn't have the auto focus issues, has superior night mode, slightly better zoom, front cameras are one of the best and even though the wide angle has a smaller field of view, it's a far bigger sensor which lets lets you capture better detailed shots)
Software - Samsung (as Huawei are banned from Google Play Services but you can still sideload most of the apps you need)
Overall aesthetics and design - P40P (mainly down to personal preference but the S20 Ultra is too big and chunky in my opinion and the sleek Frost Silver back, along with the smaller and tidier rear camera bump makes it a winner for me in the attractiveness department)
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Yes it is a dilemma but thats pretty much my conclusion as well on them both if only three had the oppo x2 find pro [emoji848]
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DoobyDroid said:
Yes it is a dilemma but thats pretty much my conclusion as well on them both if only three had the oppo x2 find pro [emoji848]
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The OPPO Find X2 Pro is very similar to the OnePlus 8 Pro though. They have near identical camera specifications (same main sensor), battery size and screen.
I see it as an overpriced version of a OP8P and with inferior software updates since OnePlus are better at releasing new firmware regularly than both Oppo and Samsung. I wouldn't consider it.

kyero985 said:
The OPPO Find X2 Pro is very similar to the OnePlus 8 Pro though. They have near identical camera specifications (same main sensor), battery size and screen.
I see it as an overpriced version of a OP8P and with inferior software updates since OnePlus are better at releasing new firmware regularly than both Oppo and Samsung. I wouldn't consider it.
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Oh I best un cancel my canceld p40 pro exchange then lol [emoji38]
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Oh I best un cancel my canceld p40 pro exchange then lol [emoji38]
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If you're purely after a flexible and strong camera performance across all lens and don't mind losing Google Play Services, the P40 Pro is almost impossible to beat in my opinion. The latest .131 firmware update that just came through about a week ago further improves its shooting performance and it can now take macro shots to an extent (I've posted a few other photos in another thread).
The S20 Ultra with its Exynos chipset is just not worth it. Every user has complained of auto focus issues, poor battery life versus its Snapdragon variant and the price tag has set a lot of expectations for perfection which Samsung couldn't deliver (there's a reason why the S20 series sold 50% less than the S10 series and petitions were started demanding Samsung to answer why they separated these two chipsets across various regions) - I'm not against Samsung but this is a sign that there's problems with this phone. The autofocus issues and its inability to take close-up shots are supposedly being fixed in the Note 20+ though.
The OnePlus 8 Pro on the other hand is the best all-rounder I'd say and I'd choose it over the S20 Ultra any day because the screen is just as good as the S20U, has Snapdragon 865 and not the Exynos and is regularly updated with new firmware (a friend of mine coming from the P30 Pro said it was a nice upgrade). It takes great videos too and is amazing value.

kyero985 said:
If you're purely after a flexible and strong camera performance across all lens and don't mind losing Google Play Services, the P40 Pro is almost impossible to beat in my opinion. The latest .131 firmware update that just came through about a week ago further improves its shooting performance and it can now take macro shots to an extent (I've posted a few other photos in another thread).
The S20 Ultra with its Exynos chipset is just not worth it. Every user has complained of auto focus issues, poor battery life versus its Snapdragon variant and the price tag has set a lot of expectations for perfection which Samsung couldn't deliver (there's a reason why the S20 series sold 50% less than the S10 series and petitions were started demanding Samsung to answer why they separated these two chipsets across various regions) - I'm not against Samsung but this is a sign that there's problems with this phone. The autofocus issues and its inability to take close-up shots are supposedly being fixed in the Note 20+ though.
The OnePlus 8 Pro on the other hand is the best all-rounder I'd say and I'd choose it over the S20 Ultra any day because the screen is just as good as the S20U, has Snapdragon 865 and not the Exynos and is regularly updated with new firmware (a friend of mine coming from the P30 Pro said it was a nice upgrade). It takes great videos too and is amazing value.
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I've had the 8 pro and wasn't at all impressed tbh camrea wasn't good and battery life and screen issues with greys and black looked wrong and washed out are stick with P40 pro I think it has best camera option that I'm after and battery life and optimization is Stella on Huawei's I can always install my bank app on tablet so not a deal braker tbh to hell with trump hopefully once he's out the ban will be lifted ,
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DoobyDroid said:
I've had the 8 pro and wasn't at all impressed tbh camrea wasn't good and battery life and screen issues with greys and black looked wrong and washed out are stick with P40 pro I think it has best camera option that I'm after and battery life and optimization is Stella on Huawei's I can always install my bank app on tablet so not a deal braker tbh to hell with trump hopefully once he's out the ban will be lifted ,
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OP8P's camera is a solid performer, but it's far from a flagship champion in the photography department in my opinion since the P40P is superior in both hardware and software.
Another reason why The P40P is also great in the battery life department is because there aren't any Google Play Services and other Google-related processes running in the background 24/7. I can disable most of Huawei's app services whenever I want, including their App Store, HiCare, HiSearch and their other apps quickly and easily. Yes, even though the battery capacity is only 4200mAh, Huawei has great RAM management and it's not as bloated anymore with other unwanted apps (at least the global version is pretty clean).

I have both the S20U and P40P, i have to say the Huawei is the better device hardware/software wise i u set it up properly HMS/GMS/ICE BOX. I previously had a P30P and i loved it thought i would go Samsung but honestly they are not top of the crop even if the price is.
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I'm really into the Hardware and aesthetic of the phone, and I think the P40 Pro is the best on the market in that aspect. It really feels premium and worth the price. It's the perfect size and weight and the materials are top notch. The Samsungs S20's just don't feel their price which is the first thing that lets it down to me (the Note 10's were much better in that respect).
If you have some patience and are good with technology and can side load GMS on the P40 Pro I'd definitely recommend it. It's the first phone out of the recent flagships that I want to keep for the next 12 months.
Another option I'd suggest is the Oppo Find X2 Pro. ColourOS I actually find I prefer to Oxygen OS. The camera is excellent and the phone feels and looks quality.

Thanks good to hear , yes had p40 lite briefly had issues getting GMS working on that but alot of the vids aimed at the p40 pro gave up with it in the end , hope to have more success with p40 pro just to be on safe side and to get my Google fix I've also ordered a oneplus 8 12GB green so will have the best of both worlds preferred it over the pro having the p40 pro as main camera phone dont see the point in getting another pro as well Roll on Monday and good buy Ultra [emoji3]
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Question Xiaomi Mix Fold 2 vs HONOR Magic Vs

Hey guys,
I have just ordered myself the HONOR Magic Vs (Live in the UK) so I'll be able to do some comparison between the two devices.
Just from the spec sheets, they do look quite similar with the Thinness aspect going to the Mix Fold 2 and the Battery size going to the Magic Vs...
The biggest plus of the Magic Vs is the "Global" factor. It has full Google support, and no Chinese bloatware (which is a little strange for a Huawei... aahhh sorry HONOR device )
For more specific impressions, after I receive it. Should only take a couple of days (I hope) It is a local UK delivery after all...
Another thing to consider is the price! Currently, it is "only" £1199 with the £200 discount promo code they give you when you register at the hihonor.com website. The standard price after 25.05 will be £1399 or 1599 Euro in some EU countries...
If you would like to know anything specific, just ask. I'll answer all questions when I get it.

OrionBG said:
Hey guys,
I have just ordered myself the HONOR Magic Vs (Live in the UK) so I'll be able to do some comparison between the two devices.
Just from the spec sheets, they do look quite similar with the Thinness aspect going to the Mix Fold 2 and the Battery size going to the Magic Vs...
The biggest plus of the Magic Vs is the "Global" factor. It has full Google support, and no Chinese bloatware (which is a little strange for a Huawei... aahhh sorry HONOR device )
For more specific impressions, after I receive it. Should only take a couple of days (I hope) It is a local UK delivery after all...
Another thing to consider is the price! Currently, it is "only" £1199 with the £200 discount promo code they give you when you register at the hihonor.com website. The standard price after 25.05 will be £1399 or 1599 Euro in some EU countries...
If you would like to know anything specific, just ask. I'll answer all questions when I get it.
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I thought about buying the Honor Magic Vs or Tecno Phantom V Fold. But the Honor inner screen is max 90Hz and has a camera hole. Tecno is not really known yet.
So i bought the Xiaomi Fold 2 in sale (€1000), unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. I made it more global with Magisk modules.
Before the Xiaomi Fold 2 i had the Vivo X Fold. It has great camera's, loved the two in-display fingerprint readers and mute switch. But thinks like Android Auto didn't work and Vivo doesn't want you to unlock the bootloader.
I skip the Oppo Find N2 and maybe also the Google Pixel Fold because i don't like it in size.
Still curious what you think about the Honor Magic Vs.

Since you asked it here on XDA forum, of course I will recommend Xiaomi devices over Huawei/Honor ones. I will never take a device with non-unlockable bootloader into account!

I have both.
TBH I prefer the Xiaomi. Even though the Honor magic vs has full GMS /Android auto so you dont need to root, it lacks basics like wifi calling/volte

If it didn't have the internal selfie camera, I might have been more inclined. This is one of the deciding factors for the Mix Fold 2 too. Completely un-interrupted inner screen.

m1key said:
I have both.
TBH I prefer the Xiaomi. Even though the Honor magic vs has full GMS /Android auto so you dont need to root, it lacks basics like wifi calling/volte
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And what about the camera's comparison?

m1key said:
I have both.
TBH I prefer the Xiaomi. Even though the Honor magic vs has full GMS /Android auto so you dont need to root, it lacks basics like wifi calling/volte
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Mine got delivered today so I'll check this tonight but according to other people in the Honor forums, WiFi Calling/Volte work fine...

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
And what about the camera's?
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Cameras are 50MP Main, 6MP Telephoto with 3x optical zoom, and 50MP Wide angle. Should be able to produce quite reasonable results.

xiaomifolduser said:
If it didn't have the internal selfie camera, I might have been more inclined. This is one of the deciding factors for the Mix Fold 2 too. Completely un-interrupted inner screen.
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Yeah, the camera hole can be annoying but all other foldables I've owned had it (except the Mix Fold 2) that I'm used to it. If the software can be made to ignore it, I'll be reasonably happy...

Hey guys,
I've been playing for a while with the Magic Vs and here are some initial thoughts of mine:
1. Everything just works! Global ROM is a blessing that you can only fully appreciate after you had several years of Chinese ROMs on Devices not made for Global use. Even some apps look a little different than the versions I have in the Mix Fold 2. All google services are happily running, Android Auto is integrated into the software.
The only thing that makes me miss Root a little bit is AdAway. It still works but with Root it works better. All My banking apps work flawlessly, Fingerprint is not iffy with them (have an issue with it in the Lloyds Banking App on the Mix Fold 2)
2. Hardware and build quality wise it is quite nice. It feels as good as the Mix Fold 2. The camera hole on the internal screen is not that bad although I know some people will hate it. Battery life seems better for now but it is too early for that. I'll have to use it at least for a week to give you more accurate notes on that.
The sound is on par and maybe a little bit better sounding... Most probable because there is a little bit more space inside for better speaker chambers... Don't know... A lot nicer rind and Alarm melodies BTW
On that note, the device does not feel any thicker than the Mix Fold 2. Both screens are a couple of mm smaller but the difference is negligible...
3. No notification issues so far... The is one strange thing that all app notifications are not enabled by default but the first time you start the app, it will ask for all needed permissions like in a normal phone for the Global market.
Google Assistant is fully integrated and working. "Hey Google" works even on a locked phone.
The always-on display shows all notifications. NetFlix is fully supported with HDR10...
Basically, it shows what the Mix Fold 2 could have been if it had proper Global software.

One more interesting thing I found just now is that due to some Honor... Magic... the Gboard keyboard switches from a normal one to the split type the moment you go to the big screen... and stays like that in both portrait and landscape... Miracle

I'm doubtful to buy the Honor Magic vs. The 12GB/512GB global model now only costs €1005 at pdaplaza, but i've now got pretty much everything working on my Xiaomi Mix Fold 2. Choices.