Poco F2 Pro or K30 Pro/Zoom for Vodafone UK? - Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Questions & Ans

hi guys & gals,
currently using poco f1 and tempted to upgrade but was wondering from any vodafone uk users, which would you recommend? My sim is 5G enabled but currently using 4G. I know Band 20 (800) is missing from the K30 pro but have any users had any issues with 4G reception? I found a price of £370 for the K30 pro (8/128) or the pro zoom at £422. tbh i dont really use the camera much so missing OIS is not that important.

I would check what 5g band Vodafone uses. Specially if you want to use 5g. You may have problems with 4g cause Vodafone uses bands are missing from the k30 pro.
I think if you would have a different provider, probably wouldn't even notice the missing bands but Vodafone is the most affected on this.
On the poco however only supports 2 5g bands. I would do my research before purchasing if I was you. GL

dead0 said:
hi guys & gals,
currently using poco f1 and tempted to upgrade but was wondering from any vodafone uk users, which would you recommend? My sim is 5G enabled but currently using 4G. I know Band 20 (800) is missing from the K30 pro but have any users had any issues with 4G reception? I found a price of £370 for the K30 pro (8/128) or the pro zoom at £422. tbh i dont really use the camera much so missing OIS is not that important.
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Get the Poco f2 pro instead of k30 pro, it has band 20
It's basically the same phone, except network bands. Got mine from AliExpress for 420 but now it's about 380£. It works fine with EE

According to this site https://kenstechtips.com/index.php/uk-network-frequency-bands Vodafone uses N78 which the Poco f2 pro has.

dead0 said:
hi guys & gals,
currently using poco f1 and tempted to upgrade but was wondering from any vodafone uk users, which would you recommend? My sim is 5G enabled but currently using 4G. I know Band 20 (800) is missing from the K30 pro but have any users had any issues with 4G reception? I found a price of £370 for the K30 pro (8/128) or the pro zoom at £422. tbh i dont really use the camera much so missing OIS is not that important.
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K30 Pro Zoom is better with OIS and same price than POCO F2. I dont have problems using it without band 20 in Spain, I have very good 4g signal and I use same bands than vodafone UK (B1, B3, B7). Also If you have 5g enabled I would prefer K30 Pro because it have more 5g bands than POCO F2 and, if im not wrong, next year companies will add band 1 (n1) support to 5g and only chinese K30 Pro have it:
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I have Poco F2 Pro on Vodafone (Voxi) in the UK, no problem with 4G - same reception as my pixel 3a. I don't have a 5G plan though so can't comment on that.

so been playing around with network signal info for the past few days, even though 4g band 1 was being used (80%), it would still fallback to band 20. as i also travel to thailand quite regularly, 5g band n41 would have been useful so looks like the f2 seems to be the one. the zoom would have been nicer tho

took the plunge and got the poco 8gb for £325.99, just waiting on dhl

dead0 said:
took the plunge and got the poco 8gb for £325.99, just waiting on dhl
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Great price, where was that from?!
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Dazeon said:
Great price, where was that from?!
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tecobuy. its been shipped already with dhl. unfortunately it was only the phantom white color which they had for the lower price but gonna use a case with it anyway

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5G or dual 4G

Anybody encounter this? When I try to select 5G as preferred network. It says I have to disable dual 4G which effectively made the phone single sim... I wonder if other phones are like this as well. This could be due to 5G is still NSA now which means phone has to connect to both 4G and 5G at the same time.
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I think this phone is not advertised as dual 5G, check Redmi 10x pro 5g, it says first dual 5G phone.
I got my Poco today and was surprised at this. I assumed I could have my data SIM set to 5g if available and my other to be still available...
This is stupid, and obviously a software limitation since other phones with the same cpu and modem can activate both sims simultaneously with 5g on one of them. Poco should fix this issue with a software update.
ozkaya said:
I think this phone is not advertised as dual 5G, check Redmi 10x pro 5g, it says first dual 5G phone.
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I'm not expecting it to be dual 5G.i just want the other sim to work when I activate 5G on the other one. At least 4G on the other sim will be good.
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in global rom poco f2 pro if 5G Enable only 1 sim must work but in china rom or eu rom one sim 5G another 4G work Great
lovers74 said:
This is stupid, and obviously a software limitation since other phones with the same cpu and modem can activate both sims simultaneously with 5g on one of them. Poco should fix this issue with a software update.
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That is not true, the Snapdragon 865 can use 2x 4G or 1x 5G, only the new MediaTek can run both with 5G (800, 820 and 1000).
Linuxkek said:
That is not true, the Snapdragon 865 can use 2x 4G or 1x 5G, only the new MediaTek can run both with 5G (800, 820 and 1000).
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It is true and was working on my S20 ultra and also on mate 30 5g, MediaTek is not the only chipset that does it
lovers74 said:
It is true and was working on my S20 ultra and also on mate 30 5g, MediaTek is not the only chipset that does it
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Exynos & Kirin, not 865
Linuxkek said:
Exynos & Kirin, not 865
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Not true, I had SM-G9880 Hong Kong version which was Snapdragon and it worked
On the user manual it says that the Dual SIM with a sim in 5G will be activated with future updates. Do you know anything about the activation date?
saturn3000 said:
On the user manual it says that the Dual SIM with a sim in 5G will be activated with future updates. Do you know anything about the activation date?
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Nobody knows that... For now only few Xiaomi devices are capable to work on dual 5G standby (Mi 10 Lite 5G and Redmi 10x 5G as I know).
But that was the same problem in the beginning with dual 4G... On most devices this has been enabled with update...

Question Abysmal LTE experience

I got the phone yesterday and LTE is so bad. It is unusable to the point there's no internet connection at all.
I noticed its LTE bands kept on changing from 1 and 8. It stays at 8 for a couple of minutes where there is no internet connection.
When it switches to band 1, the connection is back and speeds are normal but the band goes back to 8 after couple of seconds.
I'm aware that Poco X3 NFC also has an LTE issue, will a software update fix this issue? Thanks.
Edit: My previous phone was a Note 8 Pro with the same sim card and same location with no LTE problems.
AxisKiku said:
I'm aware that Poco X3 NFC also has an LTE issue
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Do you have the X3 NFC or X3 Pro?
TheReduxPL said:
Do you have the X3 NFC or X3 Pro?
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X3 Pro
Here is working fine.
Are you sure is not something related with your operator?
DJPRMF said:
Here is working fine.
Are you sure is not something related with your operator?
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I inserted the sim card back to my old phone and LTE works fine.
There are different LTE frequencies. Some models may use different frequencies that POCO X3 Pro doesn't use...
And that may be causing issues - not because the phone itself, but because the LTE provider.
Isn't something easy to check, try see around the area if there is any "spots" of issues and contact other people in the same area to see if there are some issues around.
From POCO itself, i don't have any issue with the connection and i use it all day long (may be only my case, but is something)
DJPRMF said:
There are different LTE frequencies. Some models may use different frequencies that POCO X3 Pro doesn't use...
And that may be causing issues - not because the phone itself, but because the LTE provider.
Isn't something easy to check, try see around the area if there is any "spots" of issues and contact other people in the same area to see if there are some issues around.
From POCO itself, i don't have any issue with the connection and i use it all day long (may be only my case, but is something)
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Okay, I might also try to use a different carrier to verify if it's an operator issue. Thanks for responding.
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I got the phone yesterday and LTE is so bad. It is unusable to the point there's no internet connection at all.
I noticed its LTE bands kept on changing from 1 and 8. It stays at 8 for a couple of minutes where there is no internet connection.
When it switches to band 1, the connection is back and speeds are normal but the band goes back to 8 after couple of seconds.
I'm aware that Poco X3 NFC also has an LTE issue, will a software update fix this issue? Thanks.
Edit: My previous phone was a Note 8 Pro with the same sim card and same location with no LTE problems.
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What country are you located?... My X3 Pro I purchased hasn't arrived in the mail yet, but I own the Poco F1 and LTE performance works fine w/ no problem
urbanman2004 said:
What country are you located?... My X3 Pro I purchased hasn't arrived in the mail yet, but I own the Poco F1 and LTE performance works fine w/ no problem
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I'm currently residing in the Philippines and the carrier in question is Globe Telecom. I was also not having issues with LTE on other phones either, only with X3 Pro.
AxisKiku said:
I'm currently residing in the Philippines and the carrier in question is Globe Telecom. I was also not having issues with LTE on other phones either, only with X3 Pro.
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Oh I see... That might explain things since I'm located in the US. I believe your LTE experience/performance is tied to the carrier you use and if the bands on the device are compatible w/ their service.
Just an update, a temporary fix I did is I disabled all LTE bands except for band 1 and seems to be working as it should it be.
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Just an update, a temporary fix I did is I disabled all LTE bands except for band 1 and seems to be working as it should it be.
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I took mine today and realized the same problem. It also had a Redmi Note 8 Pro that worked normal. Even with VoLTE that I couldn't get on the Poco X3 Pro. How did you change the bands? Obs. I'm from Brazil.
I experienced the same thing in Hungary. I use 2 pieces of sim, the data sim if it is in slot 2 does not use the band that is optimal for us. It see, but you won’t be willing to join it if you have better signal strength. Placing the card in the Sim1 slot goes flawlessly. Try sim1-sim2 swap. -Sorry for my English-
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Connect to b3 band only, it seems that b20 has a much better field strength.
I tried to flash another modem firmware anyway, it didn't work.
In europe I have 3CC B3+B1+B7 on Poco X3 Pro or any other devices also works B20.
Poco X3 Pro with X24 Give me record for this cell tower.
Signal is great very similar to Huawei 5G CPE Pro 2 with uses Balong 5000.
tftcamilo said:
I took mine today and realized the same problem. It also had a Redmi Note 8 Pro that worked normal. Even with VoLTE that I couldn't get on the Poco X3 Pro. How did you change the bands? Obs. I'm from Brazil.
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Hi sorry for the late reply, the issue went back after a week I locked the bands. I ended up installing a custom ROM (crDroid) and it fixed it. Receiving messages are now instantaneous and LTE is working flawlessly.
My POCO X3 pro is back from repair, network issues. All they did was update the software. Today I bought a second sim card, in my country it needs to be registered for someone to work. Such a starter.
Since the second card was inserted, the network problems have completely disappeared. I emphasize that the second card still does not work, it is inserted and only has a range bar. I am waiting for confirmation of registration of this SIM card

HELP 5G bands on Poco F2 Pro & K30 pro

Dear All!
I have a question.
I only care about the n7, n77, n78 band. because it supports 5G in Vietnam.
On Gsmarena, K30 Pro support n78 5G Bands
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And Poco F2 Pro support n77, n78 bands
If I upload the global stock rom of Poco F2 pro on K30 Pro then does K30 pro support n77, n78 bands ???????
Thanks!
vutienhung.bg said:
Dear All!
I have a question.
I only care about the n7, n77, n78 band. because it supports 5G in Vietnam.
On Gsmarena, K30 Pro support n78 5G Bands
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And Poco F2 Pro support n77, n78 bands
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If I upload the global stock rom of Poco F2 pro on K30 Pro then does K30 pro support n77, n78 bands ???????
Thanks!
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Roms don't change bands.
NOSS8 said:
Roms don't change bands.
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Are you sure of your answer?
Poco F2 pro is the global version of the K30 pro china. 2 devices have the same hardware and can use the same global rom
vutienhung.bg said:
Are you sure of your answer?
Poco F2 pro is the global version of the K30 pro china. 2 devices have the same hardware and can use the same global rom
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Sorry that the answer does not suit you but it is like that. Access to bands is blocked by Xiaomi. If it were possible, we would all have bought the K30 pro which is cheaper.
https://cacombos.com/device/M2004J11G Good also check Poco F2 support also EN_DC and CA combinations used on your country. I don't have K30 Pro combinations on my site but global model often better.
Combinations are defined to modem firmware and compiled. There is no way change combinations without recompile modem firmware.
olkitu said:
https://cacombos.com/device/M2004J11G Good also check Poco F2 support also EN_DC and CA combinations used on your country. I don't have K30 Pro combinations on my site but global model often better.
Combinations are defined to modem firmware and compiled. There is no way change combinations without recompile modem firmware.
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Hi , it'mean that from xiaomi possible to update firmware and open all band if xiaomi want, this limitation from firmware no hardware that's right
linux_root123 said:
Hi , it'mean that from xiaomi possible to update firmware and open all band if xiaomi want, this limitation from firmware no hardware that's right
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Not all possible but rarely they do so better sell and buy another one support all you need.

Question 5G Support in the USA?

Does anyone know if any USA based wireless services support 5G on the 12S Ultra?
kuau said:
Does anyone know if any USA based wireless services support 5G on the 12S Ultra?
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12S Ultra
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Tmobile (usa) 5G is not working....however I got LTE+ over 120Mb+ download speed
avetny said:
Tmobile (usa) 5G is not working....however I got LTE+ over 120Mb+ download speed
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I am still waiting for my 12s ultra to come, but I am suspecting the same as my mi 11 ultra. Xiaomi.eu rom will remove 5g restrictions so I get 5G on it, however it is not t-mobiles 5G UC which is much faster than the 5G NSA
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tensux said:
I am still waiting for my 12s ultra to come, but I am suspecting the same as my mi 11 ultra. Xiaomi.eu rom will remove 5g restrictions so I get 5G on it, however it is not t-mobiles 5G UC which is much faster than the 5G NSA
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Btw im on xiaomi.eu.
avetny said:
Btw im on xiaomi.eu.
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Interesting, I'm assuming you get 5g on other devices?
tensux said:
I am still waiting for my 12s ultra to come, but I am suspecting the same as my mi 11 ultra. Xiaomi.eu rom will remove 5g restrictions so I get 5G on it, however it is not t-mobiles 5G UC which is much faster than the 5G NSA
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The missing bands are not due to the software but to the hardware (modem).
The Xiaomi eu roms remove 5GHz(wifi) region restrictions not 5G.
For phones for the global market with their equivalent in China, if you flash the global rom on the Chinese version the missing bands will still be missing and if you do the opposite you will have the same bands as on the global version.
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Update, Well I got excited today for about 5 minutes. I tried a PureTalk sim in my 12S and bang it showed a 5G connection. PureTalk in the USA is a MVNO for ATT. ATT shows 3 5G bands that are supported on the 12S.
Unfortunately I ran a few speed tests and was only getting about 50-60mbs download speed ugh... Worse speeds then I was getting with T-Mobile LTE...
kuau said:
Update, Well I got excited today for about 5 minutes. I tried a PureTalk sim in my 12S and bang it showed a 5G connection. PureTalk in the USA is a MVNO for ATT. ATT shows 3 5G bands that are supported on the 12S.
Unfortunately I ran a few speed tests and was only getting about 50-60mbs download speed ugh... Worse speeds then I was getting with T-Mobile LTE...
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PureTalk use N5 (850MHz), N77 (3.7GHz),N260 (39GHz) but you were surely on a N5 which emit far enough unlike the others.
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PureTalk use N5 (850MHz), N77 (3.7GHz),N260 (39GHz) but you were surely on a N5 which emit far enough unlike the others.
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So being on N5 does that explain the slower speeds ? Is there anyway to tell which band I am connected to?
kuau said:
So being on N5 does that explain the slower speeds ? Is there anyway to tell which band I am connected to?
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The N5 is far-reaching but does not offer higher throughput than 4g or 4g+.
You will find on the play store (I don't remember the name).
In France the B700 5g +/- 60mbs, 4g +/- 120mbs ,5G 3500 +/- 300mbs****
****Provided you are less than 1km from the antenna.
Note that MVNO often provide the least.
5G 3,5 GHz
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So for another test I took out the Puretalk sim and put it in my iPhone 13Pro, and what do you know triple the DL speed on 5G then on the 12s. So I would assume that the iPhone supports more 5g frequencies then the 12s?
kuau said:
So for another test I took out the Puretalk sim and put it in my iPhone 13Pro, and what do you know triple the DL speed on 5G then on the 12s. So I would assume that the iPhone supports more 5g frequencies then the 12s?
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Is this the iPhone 5g capabilities
kuau said:
Is this the iPhone 5g capabilities
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Iphone 13 pro 5G capabilities
NOSS8 said:
Iphone 13 pro 5G capabilities
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Thanks that's what I thought. Oh well so much for "true" 5g support in the USA... Kind of bummed about this. I finally unlocked my 12s installed the .eu rom which at least for me transforms the phone into something quite usable now. i.e Android Auto, much better integration with google services... Basically just works now..
forgot to ask in the USA which 4G carries would have the best service / speed
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forgot to ask in the USA which 4G carries would have the best service / speed
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Best 4G coverage​
Verizon: 70% 4G coverage
AT&T: 68% 4G coverage
T-Mobile: 62% 4G coverage
Best 5G coverage​
T-Mobile: 53% 5G coverage
AT&T: 29% 5G coverage
Verizon: 12% 5G coverage
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only LTE in USA on google fi (which uses t-mobile) but download speed seems twice as fast as i was getting on the mi 11 ultra, i usually get about 600/50 on devices with 5G in my area. I really don't have a need for that much speed on my phones.

Question Can the CN Xiaomi 13 be fully support by T-Mobile in the US?

Hi everyone!
I'm considering buying a Xiaomi 13 while I'm still in China and flashing the Xiaomi eu ROM. The CN version is much cheaper than the global one. I'm a T-Mobile customer and wondering if anyone has used a CN Xiaomi 13 in the US before? I've heard that sometimes the CN version Xiaomi phone may have issues to fully use 5g or 4g network in the US. Please share your experience here, and thank you for your time!
T Mobiles
Cn 5g 1/4 bands 4g 2/6 bands
Global. 5g 2/4 Bands 4g 5/6 bands
Spoiler: CN
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I saw this video, the editor sad it worked good on T-mobile.
Gankadin said:
I saw this video, the editor sad it worked good on T-mobile.
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Sorry i am new to this ,how can i delete the post. i noticed that he is talking about the global version
Gankadin said:
I saw this video, the editor sad it worked good on T-mobile.
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It's about the Global version not CN.
Click on edit remove content and write DELETED.
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It's about the Global version not CN.
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yeah, i am trying to delet it but in "edit" section there is no delete otion...
I came across something interesting. This website actually compares the band coverage difference between the CN and the global version. It seems the CN ones normally get lower coverage, but I still have no idea how bad it could be since I have no idea what type of bands are covering my living area...
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-13
You post exactly what I have already posted, whatever, check here.
5G & 4G LTE Coverage Map: Check Your Cell Phone Service | T-Mobile
Now that Sprint is part of T-Mobile, our network is bigger and better than ever. Explore our 5G and 4G LTE coverage map and check availability in your area!
www.t-mobile.com
There are no bands (or I saw wrong).
T-Mobile network
Learn about coverage and technologies of the T-Mobile network, including a 5G and 4G LTE Coverage map, device compatibility, and more.
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NOSS8 said:
You post exactly what I have already posted, whatever, check here.
5G & 4G LTE Coverage Map: Check Your Cell Phone Service | T-Mobile
Now that Sprint is part of T-Mobile, our network is bigger and better than ever. Explore our 5G and 4G LTE coverage map and check availability in your area!
www.t-mobile.com
There are no bands (or I saw wrong).
T-Mobile network
Learn about coverage and technologies of the T-Mobile network, including a 5G and 4G LTE Coverage map, device compatibility, and more.
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Thank you man!
I'm also in the US using Google Fi which uses T-Mobile. I'm also dual SIM with ATT.
I ended up getting the Global version because it had more supported bands even though it was more expensive... Ended up getting the 12/256 for $860 on eBay.
anandlal said:
I'm also in the US using Google Fi which uses T-Mobile. I'm also dual SIM with ATT.
I ended up getting the Global version because it had more supported bands even though it was more expensive... Ended up getting the 12/256 for $860 on eBay.
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Aloha,
Wonder if you can help? I purchased a 13 pro and having a hard time connecting to T-Mobile service. I have been working with tech support and I'm unable to make and receive phone calls. When I try to make calls the service drops. Im able to use data (internet) but unable to use the basic phone functions. Could you please let me know the apn settings that your using or have any suggestions on how I can get this service to work? I'm in the US.
Mahalo
devilman30 said:
Aloha,
Wonder if you can help? I purchased a 13 pro and having a hard time connecting to T-Mobile service. I have been working with tech support and I'm unable to make and receive phone calls. When I try to make calls the service drops. Im able to use data (internet) but unable to use the basic phone functions. Could you please let me know the apn settings that your using or have any suggestions on how I can get this service to work? I'm in the US.
Mahalo
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Here you go.
Mahalo for you quick response. So you default is the epc I would assume. Let me try. Did you do any other tweeking to the apns? My other question would be is the sim with the att getting the service and not the T-Mobile? Have you tried with just the T-Mobile sim?
Did you ever get this squared away ? I am looking to buy the 13 pro within the next day or 2
johnsonrod27 said:
Did you ever get this squared away ? I am looking to buy the 13 pro within the next day or 2
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The CN versions should function, though you'll likely experience signal outages due to only having a few of the frequencies. If you're looking to use the 13 in the USA, then the global version is what you'll be better off with.
I have a CN version phone and MintMobile (reseller of T-Mobile) SIM. It works fine. Plug & play. No special setting needed.

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