3 Questions I have for US users. I have searched forum but haven't found answer yet.
1.) As the title says, does the hotspot work for you automatically? I do NOT pay for extra hotspot feature but have Unlimited Grandfather Plan. I have always rooted or had Custom rom that allows Hotspot to work when stock ROMs tend to Give a Permission Error message if Not on Hotspot plan. In the past I had to even edit build.prop and another file to access the permission of native hotspot.
2.) Does this phone have Fast charging? (Moto website says 10W Rapid Charge). If so, Do I need to buy a fast Charge power plug or is the one included able to do fast charge?
3.) Since this phone has Stylus capabilities will future Moto G Power ROMs be able to support this device? (Assuming these Moto G phones get some Dev Love or ports). (Maybe a Note owner has gone through development of ROMs from other Samsung variants would know?)
(Just bought this phone 5 minutes ago and waiting for next day delivery since my Huawei is RIP :crying:. )
The WiFi Hotspot works for me without any special config/hacks on the stock ROM. I purchased the Moto G Stylus through the Motorola website. I'm on AT&T and do not pay for the "hotspot" service, just my standard data plan.
"Fast Charging" isn't a specific standard so I cannot tell you if that is supported. The included charger output is 2A at 5V, which equals 10 watts. That corresponds to the specs on the Motorola website. Seems to charge fast enough. The battery doesn't go below 80% with my daily usage so I use a lower powered charger to charge overnight to reduce the wear on the battery.
As you've noted, the Moto G Power & Moto G Stylus are very similar. I would guess a Moto G Power ROM would probably boot on the Moto G Stylus, and that the stylus would work for input. Features such as launching an app when the stylus is removed probably wouldn't work unless the ROM developer adds support for the sensor. The camera packages are also different so the Stylus camera's may not function without a specific custom ROM for the Moto G Stylus. I think the real hold up for custom ROM's at this point is the lack of custom recoveries for Android 10 in general.
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The WiFi Hotspot works for me without any special config/hacks on the stock ROM. I purchased the Moto G Stylus through the Motorola website. I'm on AT&T and do not pay for the "hotspot" service, just my standard data plan.
"Fast Charging" isn't a specific standard so I cannot tell you if that is supported. The included charger output is 2A at 5V, which equals 10 watts. That corresponds to the specs on the Motorola website. Seems to charge fast enough. The battery doesn't go below 80% with my daily usage so I use a lower powered charger to charge overnight to reduce the wear on the battery.
As you've noted, the Moto G Power & Moto G Stylus are very similar. I would guess a Moto G Power ROM would probably boot on the Moto G Stylus, and that the stylus would work for input. Features such as launching an app when the stylus is removed probably wouldn't work unless the ROM developer adds support for the sensor. The camera packages are also different so the Stylus camera's may not function without a specific custom ROM for the Moto G Stylus. I think the real hold up for custom ROM's at this point is the lack of custom recoveries for Android 10 in general.
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Yes I've been seeing there was changes made in Android 10 that is slowing down Custom recovery development but Im sure that will get figured out soon enough. There's always that obstacle with new android updates.
As far as the charger I have read some people are using a 18w charger for these phones so I guess they must have the fast charging or whatever its called (QC 3.0 or Power Delivery), but I guess you are right that charging at that rate will take a toll on the battery life. And that's great if Native hotspot works without modding any files. Not sure why some unlocked phone companies put locks on it in the past on their stock FW. But anyways Thanks for letting me know.
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Yes I've been seeing there was changes made in Android 10 that is slowing down Custom recovery development but Im sure that will get figured out soon enough. There's always that obstacle with new android updates.
As far as the charger I have read some people are using a 18w charger for these phones so I guess they must have the fast charging or whatever its called (QC 3.0 or Power Delivery), but I guess you are right that charging at that rate will take a toll on the battery life. And that's great if Native hotspot works without modding any files. Not sure why some unlocked phone companies put locks on it in the past on their stock FW. But anyways Thanks for letting me know.
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On the topic of charging, using an 18w or even a 100w charger won't charge the phone any faster if the charging circuit dictates a 10w max. 10w "Rapid Charging" is what is listed on the Motorola website. The 665 chipset supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 but Motorola may have customized/limited the charging circuit. I'm guessing they did, or they would advertise the phone as Quick Charge 3 or Rapid Charge 18w compatible. I see Motorola sells some Quick Charge 3.0 18w chargers but they have the disclaimer "*Not all devices will charge at the same rate. Some devices may not be able to utilize the full 18W. Charging rate reduces as charge levels become full to protect battery life." I think the only way we would know for sure is to run some tests comparing the charging speed with an 18w charger and a 10w charger.
Well......Just got a message from AT&T saying ,
"AT&T Free Msg: You've used 100% of your 10GB mobile hotspot data this bill period. You still have access to the 15GB we temporarily added at no charge until your bill cycle ends or June 30, at which time mobile hotspot data will slow to a max speed of 128Kbps. Go to www.att.com/myATTUsage to track your data use......so I guess without my rooted phone they are able to track my usage of Hotspot. Just wanted to report back on this. I'll definitely need to find the fix for this asap.
I pay for unlimited. I'm not trying to pay for unlimited "with option to share with my other devices" and I never have. I'll have to root and find tether provision or script to block the monitoring of my usage. Been with AT&T since around 2006 (maybe before), so not happy to get throttled after 10 GBS of hotspot. Anyone know if the tether_dun_required 0” trick works?
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I have researched this quite a bit and can't figure out:
1) Does the AT&T LG G2 support Qualcomm's QuickCharge?
2) If so, what type of charger do you need to have? I heard it was a 2.1v charger/plug.
3) If so, is it QuickCharge 1.0 or 2.0? I imagine 1.0 since the new Moto X was just released with 2.0…
It'd be nice to have an official answer and an explanation as to how you know the answer!
Does no one know?
i have read on qualocom's site that all snapdragon 800 are supported, but some people noted that it might be disabled in software, those chargers are brand new and i am sure someone will test one out with a g2 soon
I use a standard 5.0V, 1.2A wall charger and my G2 charges from dead to full in less than an hour. But I'm sure some people want this feature so they can charge their batteries in under 10 minutes. But if you're using that much battery why not just have a second battery? You're not always gonna be somewhere where you can charge your battery. Even quickly.
I've never heard of under 10 minute charges, but I have heard of 75% in 15 minutes with QuickCharge 2.0. Also, unless you have the Korean version of the G2, it doesn't have a replaceable battery, so a fast charger is the way to go for that.
Original wall charger, only the basic apps, not likely to be power hungry apps.
What could be the problem and how do i solve it? How much time it should usually take for the device to charge?
Thanks in advance
Get a different charger.
I use one that came with my kindle and it takes less than an hour from 5% to full
The charger that came with my moto is very weak
Yeah, stock charger is kinda garbage... if you need a cheap one, look for the ones that are OEM for the Blackberry Play, 1.8A output and I picked up 5 for about $20 shipped, they will charge almost anything. >10% to full in around an hour if left idle.
Note that some variants come with a 1.15A charger, but others have reported getting a lower rated charger. The Moto G will charge at a maximum rate of 1A regardless of the supply used ( I could never get the stock one to go over 700ma), Quick Charge is not supported.
Wireless Charging and Honor
Wireless charging has the attention of consumers once again, after Apple decided to include it with their newest phone- the iPhone X and 8. This has me thinking about the Honor line and if wireless charging is something that this community is interested in for future phones.
With no charging cable required, iPhone X is truly designed for the future of wireless. -Apple
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Android and Wireless ChargingWireless charging has been a feature of some Android phones for a long time now. One of the first major phones to push wireless charging was the LG Nexus 4 from Google. This technology stuck around throughout the Nexus 5 and 6, until it was dropped with the 5x and the 6p. Today, very few Android phones choose to implement wireless charging, when not too long ago it seemed like it was the future. Two of the biggest contributing factors to it not becoming the standard was: the price of a wireless charging pad, and the charging speed compared to the USB charger.
Wireless charging docks are expensive. A good one usually costs around $50. This resulted in a lot of people owning phones that had the wireless technology, but didn't ever bother to fork out the money to get the required charger. Those who did get the wireless charger, experienced slower charge times. I'm sure there are many people who have and love wireless charging, but these two issues are definitely why you don't see wireless in every Android flagship that comes out today.
Should Honor Implement Wireless Charging?Now it's time to get the opinion of this community about if future Honor phones should have wireless charging. There will probably be at least a small price jump to accommodate the new technology, as well as the additional cost of the wireless dock. Is wireless charging something that is important to you for your next phone? Are you willing to buy a wireless charger in addition to your new phone? Let me know in the comments!
My first wireless (inductive) charging phone was 4 years ago and it was the droid maxx. I had the charging pads at home and the office, though they charges painfully slow (about 0.3A, slower than plugging to laptop usb port) but it was cool to just drop the phone and leave it there and the phone rarely had its battery below 50%. When I sold the phone I gave all the pads to the new owner and that was it. All my later phones no longer have wireless charging, but they have fast charging which in my opinion is way better.
I think it will be something like the notification light. It's not an important feature but it's good to have an added function. And honor being a glass back phone, it surely a simple thing that Huawei could implement.
I rather them increase battery size if they're going to add more to the phone, even if that makes the phone a little thicker. Fast charging is more convenient anyway.
An answer in Lenovo's support forums says the G5 does not support Turbo Power, but it comes with a 10W rapid charger. The problem that here in Brazil not even this 10w charger gets shlpped with the phone, neither can I find it for sale, so I'm thinking about getting a 15W Turbo Power charger, does anyone knows if it'll charge the G5 (25W and above are reportedly not working with the G5)
It won't work, But you'll get fast charge tho (NOT TurboCharge, which is even faster. Just standart fast charge)
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It won't work, But you'll get fast charge tho (NOT TurboCharge, which is even faster. Just standart fast charge)
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Will fast charge charpe it faster than a 5V-2A charger?
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Will fast charge charpe it faster than a 5V-2A charger?
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Maybe? I'll test it, and say the results
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Maybe? I'll test it, and say the results
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Ok, if you do it, that'll hilp a lot, since moto G5 came with this standard 2A charges.
I bought my Moto G5 in Brazil near the launch date, it did come with the 10 W charger (5V-2A, W = V x A, do the math). As far as I know, Snapdragon 430 support Quick Charge 3.0. I bought a ROCK charger with Quick Charge 3.0, just waiting for it to arrive from Aliexpress, should work just fine.
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I bought my Moto G5 in Brazil near the launch date, it did come with the 10 W charger (5V-2A, W = V x A, do the math). As far as I know, Snapdragon 430 support Quick Charge 3.0. I bought a ROCK charger with Quick Charge 3.0, just waiting for it to arrive from Aliexpress, should work just fine.
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Well, I didn't know that this would result in 10W. Anyways, as far as I know the moto G5 doesn't support Turbo/Quick charge, despite using the Snapdragon 430. I say thay because none of the TurboPower chargers in Motorola's website cites the G5 as supported (only G5+/G5S), in addition, I read many reports in Lenovo's official forum repporting it doesn't support Quick/Turbo Charge, like here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...g-with-Qualcomm-quick-charge-3-0/td-p/3828209
In other words, a 15W charger is not supposed to provide great advantages over the regular charger that came with it.
Anyways, thanks for showing me a 5v-2a equals 10w, I googled and confirmed it.
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Well, I didn't know that this would result in 10W. Anyways, as far as I know the moto G5 doesn't support Turbo/Quick charge, despite using the Snapdragon 430. I say thay because none of the TurboPower chargers in Motorola's website cites the G5 as supported (only G5+/G5S), in addition, I read many reports in Lenovo's official forum repporting it doesn't support Quick/Turbo Charge, like here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...g-with-Qualcomm-quick-charge-3-0/td-p/3828209
In other words, a 15W charger is not supposed to provide great advantages over the regular charger that came with it.
Anyways, thanks for showing me a 5v-2a equals 10w, I googled and confirmed it.
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You are welcome.
To be honest I have been using the Quick Charger but can confirm if it's working or not. I usually just plug the phone before going to sleep, when I wake up it's already 100% . I will search if there's anything available to detect if it's using the quick charge or not.
Did it work?
I'm using my wife's charger from her G4+ and it seems not boost the charger at all. It takes the same time with my own charger. Normally, batteries got a regulator that protect the battery from being overpowered and, maybe, exploded. So, if it was setted to 2A max it won't work anyway. Also, the official charger detects, through USB interface, if the device support Boosted Charging before sending 3A. If you wanna save your money, my advice is don't buy it.
Moto G5 doesn't support Qualcomm 2.0 or 3.0 which charge at 9V or 12V. My original charger used to charge at 5.2V and up to 1.5A, but it doesn't anymore, now doesn't go over 5.0V. Very difficult to charge when powered on when normal charger only manages about 0.6A . Also have problem with portable battery packs, best option is to connect external battery when full, and it just about stops internal battery falling. Maybe the connector wearing out, have tried different cables....
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Moto G5 doesn't support Qualcomm 2.0 or 3.0 which charge at 9V or 12V. My original charger used to charge at 5.2V and up to 1.5A, but it doesn't anymore, now doesn't go over 5.0V. Very difficult to charge when powered on when normal charger only manages about 0.6A . Also have problem with portable battery packs, best option is to connect external battery when full, and it just about stops internal battery falling. Maybe the connector wearing out, have tried different cables....
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Sometimes it can be as simple as a tiny piece of pocket lint/crud in the USB charging port. You can buy cans of compressed air to blow them out same as used on Camera lens or check with magnifying glass and then a toothpick with care to clean anything found out.
HTH
Blast from past on old phone! The usb port eventually failed completely, fortunately the little board is easy to replace, but the replacement board only lasted a few months. I still have the phone as a spare and charge the removable battery out of the phone.
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Blast from past on old phone! The usb port eventually failed completely, fortunately the little board is easy to replace, but the replacement board only lasted a few months. I still have the phone as a spare and charge the removable battery out of the phone.
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Sorry about that
But glad you still have the phone
So the data port on my Moto G3 is failing (loose), so I ordered a replacement part and figured I would keep it as a backup phone and move on to the Moto G6 as my main phone. I need a multi-port wall and car charger as mine are very old (As in single 5V voltage at 1 amp per port max) and figured that would be easy, just pick them up on Amazon.............NOT. I spent an entire day trying to figure out what was compatible with the phone (voltages, currents, wattages, fast charging technology) and as far as I can tell there is nothing out there. This is not just Motorola, as other manufacturers have their own standards. This really needs to be standardized.
I then contacted Anker. I mean come on, they have got to know right?. Here was their reply yesterday:
"But so sorry that the Moto G6 uses the exclusive turbo charge technology, we cannot guarantee 100% that our QC charger (Moto Turbo-charging is a quick charge technology based on QC) could charge the device fastly. "
It is bad enough every time I buy a new phone everything changes and I have to buy new chargers, cases, cables, sim cards, SD cards, etc. I am not saying that is a bad thing, as these technology changes usually mean improvements in speed, usability, reliability, etc. I just don't want to buy all this new stuff and have chargers that won't work with other devices I might buy shortly or be obsolete in months instead of years.
I guess I have to hold off until all of this stabilizes and standardizes. Thanks to Lineage my obsolete Moto G3 (According to Motorola) still runs great and has the latest security updates. My only concern is that the battery will be the next to go.
Every USB C charger I have plugged into my G6 has been compatible with turbopower charging... have used 3, one that came with it, my nexus 5X charger, and a cheap charging dock I got on amazon...
Could someone tell me what the model # and output electrical values are (Volts / Amps / Watts) that are written on the stock charger for the Moto G6. Motorola sells two different wall chargers with different specs. The output values should be specified as V / A/ W for 5V, 9V, and 12V.
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Could someone tell me what the model # and output electrical values are (Volts / Amps / Watts) that are written on the stock charger for the Moto G6. Motorola sells two different wall chargers with different specs. The output values should be specified as V / A/ W for 5V, 9V, and 12V.
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The charger I have for my G6 is either model SC-22 or SPN5993A (it's hard for me to tell next to all of this Chinese writing). The output is either 5V, 9V, or 12V.
Thanks. I was considering getting the on sale Moto G6 64 bit version today as it was only $259, but it is only available in the Indigo color. I will wait until the regular price lowers and the whole charging thing gets resolved. I ordered a part to fix my Moto G3 in the meantime. I also have a Nexus 4 as a backup phone so i am good to go for a while.
I can check tomorrow to be sure, but I think it uses the 5V 3A charging standard. I have a USB meeter that I can plug into the charger at work and see what it does. I don't think it does the 9V or 12V fast charge.
You simply need a QC 2.0 or 3.0 charger. Easy day. Both will turbo charge the Motorola. Ive used dozens of different brands on a few different Motorolas and they all turbo charge.
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You simply need a QC 2.0 or 3.0 charger. Easy day. Both will turbo charge the Motorola. Ive used dozens of different brands on a few different Motorolas and they all turbo charge.
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Thanks. I will get QC 3.0 chargers, unless if and when I decide to buy the phone, QC 4.0+ chargers are released and work with the Moto G6. I am probably going to wait for a non-Amazon 64GB RAM model to be released.
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... I am probably going to wait for a non-Amazon 64GB RAM model to be released.
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Especially if you are interested in unlocking the bootloader.
I too, just recently found that a 4/64 version of the regular G6 is available, but have only found the Amazon Prime version. I contacted Motorola and asked why this version is not available on their web site. So waiting to hear back.
32GB internal storage is just not enough, especially in the case of the X4, with the OS taking up 13GB.
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Especially if you are interested in unlocking the bootloader.
I too, just recently found that a 4/64 version of the regular G6 is available, but have only found the Amazon Prime version. I contacted Motorola and asked why this version is not available on their web site. So waiting to hear back.
32GB internal storage is just not enough, especially in the case of the X4, with the OS taking up 13GB.
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Yes , unlocking the bootloader is the main issue. Also, Lenovo is terrible with OS and security updates, both not timely and eventually not supporting the phone all together, so I would need the capability to install a ROM eventually, like what I did with my Moto G3.
Anker PowerCore+ 26800 with Qualcomm QuickCharge 3.0 (version that includes PowerPort+ 1 wall charger) QC 3.0 port (blue one on the right) charges Moto G6 in TurboPower charging mode, also the charger that comes with it works same way, both charge phone very quickly. Just like charger that came with the phone.
Using Anker USB C 3.0 braided and PVC cables.
I'm guessing any Qualcomm QC 3.0 -type charger will run in TurboPower mode with this phone.
I can't verify quick charge but I can verify that any phone charger supporting power delivery (type c "standard" for charging fast and not proprietary like quick charge) will definitely activate turbocharging.
Edit... After scouring the internet for a few minutes I'd just stick with power delivery chargers as it seems that quick charge chargers (qualcomms proprietary fast charging method) is a mixed bag of results as the G6 doesn't officially support quick charge while if you purchase a power delivery charger it'll just work.
We have the Moto G6, Nexus 6P (Huawei) and Moto Nexus 6 - the OEM Moto charger with the OEM cable obviously enabled the Turbo charging mode, the same charger does fast charging on the Nexus 6P as well as the old Nexus 6. Traded into Google my old Nexus 5X but kept the OEM USB-C fast charger, which works with all these 3 smartphones, I can't recall at the moment whether it's Turbo and/or Fast charging mode, as I left that at home and we are traveling on the road this weekend.
What I've noticed is that, sometimes, it will depend on the specific USB-C cable that I am using and/or possibly using one of the "certified" USB-C adapter plug (with the resistor) and an OEM/quality micro-USB charging cable with all the pins wired correctly.
On the road, I've been using an Anker 4-usb port charger that put out 2.4 amp per port at 5V (up to a max of 7.2 amp ... average of 1.8 amp) and it does charging these 3 devices fast, maybe not "turbo" mode. The speed is more than good and quick enough, won't take overnight hours to bring it up to 100%.
Moto G6 is stock OEM rom whereas N6P and Nexus 6 are custom roms.
the moto g6 play also support turbocharge it just doesnt come with the turbocharger block. i used my cousins block from his z2 force and everytime i connect it the phone says "turbo power connected" the moto g6 play is also not usb-c. the block that came with the phone only does as the phone says "rapidly charging" so yea its kinda weird lol
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the moto g6 play also support turbocharge it just doesnt come with the turbocharger block. i used my cousins block from his z2 force and everytime i connect it the phone says "turbo power connected" the moto g6 play is also not usb-c. the block that came with the phone only does as the phone says "rapidly charging" so yea its kinda weird lol
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Thanks. I'm actually considering grabbing a g6 play as a backup/work phone. I have a g6 with the turbocharger block. I'll probably have to grab a block once I test the g6 play... I bought that phone for my dad and he loves it... unlocked, of course.
It works with standard PD (5V, 9V) charger when I making a reply
Just to reaffirm, it works with a Power Delivery (PD) charger. QC is not the supported charging standard on the G6. So buy a charger that uses the PD standard.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077HFFLMS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MA10GH9/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07214QNQX/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have both these charger blocks and those Anker cables. I don't have exact numbers but I know they charge my G6+ and my girlfriends X4 very fast and my G6+ says Turbo Power when connecting the charger.
Doesn't look like I already commented, but the Moto G6 uses the 5V 3A fast charge method, went to about 2.3A at most, it doesn't go to the 9v. I used a USB C amp meter that also shows voltage and is capable of fast charging. I know this works because it activates the Power delivery for my Chromebook with USB C and goes to 15V.
In general, there's two considerations here.
1.) Turbocharge is a fork of the QuickCharge specification. Anything rated for QuickCharge should work with it to some extent.
2.) the USB signalling is important. since the G6 uses a type C connector and specification, it is not technically always using the same signaling wires as USB 2.0, 3.0 type A (the big flat connector we all know and love)
So, if you're wanting to make sure everything works as it should, and is as broadly compatible as possible, make sure that the charger you are using is rated as at least Quickcharge 3.0, and that the cable you're using is certified for USB 3.1 (or 3.1 gen 2 as it is confusingly called) a lot of the USB-A to USB-c cables you'll find out there are actually usb 3.0 (also called USB 3.1 gen 1, ugh this naming convention), or even USB 2.0, cables with a type C connector slapped on them if you're getting some cheap chinese junk off amazon or ebay. Also remember that USB 3.1 cables are length sensetive, and should not be over 2 meteres (about 6 ft) long unless you are using what is called an 'active cable.' These have microchips in their connectors and are generally more expensive.