Today i faced a problem where i went to the play store and went to my apps and all of the apps were up to date. I rebooted my phone and ''Youtube'' was being updated.
Why did it update after reboot instead of when i went to ''My apps'' in the playstore and everything was up-to-date ?
its normal.
it might of not been available for your phone the first time you checked. when apps are updated, not everyone gets the update right away. your neighbor might see an update for that app while you get the update hours later.
it's normal. That's happened to me pre-nexus 5..might be an availability thing or just need to refresh the connection to tip off the fact that you need the update.
I usually restart my phone at least two times a day just to keep the system running smoothly and make sure apps close out so it's no biggie to me
Hi,
I have two Nexus 5 phones in my possession, both currently on 4.4.2 (Cataclysm and AOKP). I've recently noticed that the N5 running 4.4.2 Cataclysm has been using an immense amount of background data for 'Google Services' and did some digging to find out what it was. Turns out the phone is constantly re-downloading an OTA update, failing to flash it, then re-downloading it again, and so on.
There's a few attached images that are related - the file it's downloading, and the data used so far.
I found a couple of supposed solutions on various XDA threads and disabled the update service at startup, as well as installing FOTAKill.apk to system, but somehow it's still downloading and it's wearing me down as I can't figure out how to stop it. I understand an update to 4.4.4 would fix it, but i'd rather not as the person currently using the phone isn't all that keen on me taking time to flash & restore backups etc.
Are there any fixes for this that can be done by removing/disabling system services or the like? If it comes to it, I may just be able to block access to that particular ZIP in pfSense/SquidGuard.
Cheers.
ItsEmber said:
Hi,
I have two Nexus 5 phones in my possession, both currently on 4.4.2 (Cataclysm and AOKP). I've recently noticed that the N5 running 4.4.2 Cataclysm has been using an immense amount of background data for 'Google Services' and did some digging to find out what it was. Turns out the phone is constantly re-downloading an OTA update, failing to flash it, then re-downloading it again, and so on.
There's a few attached images that are related - the file it's downloading, and the data used so far.
I found a couple of supposed solutions on various XDA threads and disabled the update service at startup, as well as installing FOTAKill.apk to system, but somehow it's still downloading and it's wearing me down as I can't figure out how to stop it. I understand an update to 4.4.4 would fix it, but i'd rather not as the person currently using the phone isn't all that keen on me taking time to flash & restore backups etc.
Are there any fixes for this that can be done by removing/disabling system services or the like? If it comes to it, I may just be able to block access to that particular ZIP in pfSense/SquidGuard.
Cheers.
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Download this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
Disable SystemUpdateService in Google Play Services + Google Services Framework.
The app itself doesn't store any data so you can uninstall it afterwards.
Or;
Open /system/build.prop, change
Code:
ro.build.fingerprint=google/hammerhead/hammerhead:4.4.2/KOT49H/937116:user/release-keys
to
Code:
ro.build.fingerprint=google/hammerhead/hammerhead:4.4.4/KTU84P/1227136:user/release-keys
I believe you can long press on the notification and just untick show notification.
nitramus said:
I believe you can long press on the notification and just untick show notification.
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Doesn't stop it from downloading the OTA again and again. That'll just hide all notifications from Android System, and you might miss something else.
If people don't want to be bothered by important security updates and other goodies, why should we care? I fully updated my manta last night (factory image, latest twrp, omni, restore stuff) in 30min. In my opinion, you're just being lazy with both devices.
beekay201 said:
If people don't want to be bothered by important security updates and other goodies, why should we care? I fully updated my manta last night (factory image, latest twrp, omni, restore stuff) in 30min. In my opinion, you're just being lazy with both devices.
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The ROM used is an outdated rom, Cataclysm(4.4.2), which is based on stock.
It's their preference for what they want to use.
I've recently bought a Nexus 5, and am a bit puzzled about the automatic updates from the Play Store. I've got my settings set to automatically update over wifi only, but this doesn't appear to be happening. If I open the Play Store, there are apps there marked as having an update available, without my phone doing it for me.
What is the normal behaviour of the auto updates? Should the automatic updates occur immediately when the update is released (assuming I'm connected to wifi, of course) or is there often some delay between an update being released and my phone installing it?
EDIT: I should point out that I'm using stock 4.4.4.
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I've recently bought a Nexus 5, and am a bit puzzled about the automatic updates from the Play Store. I've got my settings set to automatically update over wifi only, but this doesn't appear to be happening. If I open the Play Store, there are apps there marked as having an update available, without my phone doing it for me.
What is the normal behaviour of the auto updates? Should the automatic updates occur immediately when the update is released (assuming I'm connected to wifi, of course) or is there often some delay between an update being released and my phone installing it?
EDIT: I should point out that I'm using stock 4.4.4.
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Try clearing app data and cache in app info, it should update as well as your apps, it gets buggy at times when play store gets updated.
republicano said:
Try clearing app data and cache in app info, it should update as well as your apps, it gets buggy at times when play store gets updated.
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Thanks for the reply. I cleared the data and cache for the Play Store last night, and the phone was connected to WiFi all night, but no automatic updates had occurred overnight.
Is it normal to have a long delay before the automatic updates occur? I found that if I restart my phone, it will trigger the automatic update service, but it doesn't seem to really happen during normal operation (although it's only been about 1 day since I manually updated things, hence my question about the delay - can it normally take a day or two to trigger the updates?)
Right. I am not letting this go! Been on at Nokia for a couple of weeks now and still getting nowhere.
These are what they have asked me to try so far (No success)
I am on Vodafone and my spare Sim is BTMobile (on EE) and the phone purchased from Carphone Warehouse
these are from Nokia "Support"
"First, please go to Settings >> Applications/Apps & Notifications >> (Show all) Three dots on the top-right >> Show System >> Carrier Services >> Storage >> Cache and tap to clear it.
Then, remove any SIM Cards on your device and shut down your device (Long press the Power Button >> Power Off).
Wait for about 15 minutes, then turn on your device without the SIM Card.
10 minutes after it loads, please connect to a stable Wi-Fi Connection and check for your System Updates by going to Settings >> About Phone >> System Updates.
Should this not work, please go back to step 2, but on step 3, please insert a SIM Card from a different Network Operator and proceed to step 4."
No change.
Then today I got this nugget to try.
Please be informed, that usually receiving the update takes some time. You could however try the following things:
Make sure you have pressed Request OTA in the Beta Labs website;
Also try the following options:
Remove your SIM card;
Settings -> Apps -> Google play services -> Disable;
Settings -> Apps -> Google play services -> Enable;
Settings -> Apps -> Google play services -> Force stop;
Settings -> Apps -> Google play services -> Storage -> Clear data / Clear cache.
After these steps please restart the device.
No joy.
Read somewhere that someone with an O2 sim got an update through.
Poor poor service
BEst reply ever to an update issue
"We are sorry about inconvenience, we understand your disappoint and would like you know that we are working in the new Security Pack and in the next update you will be able to do."
Can someone tell me what the hell that says? To sort out the update the next update will sort it.? I cant effin update!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what project treble have to say about the matter of updates.
NEed another phone I think as this is really winding me up now.
Still haven't received any updates since May getting annoying now Nokia are getting like Motorola/Lenovo.
Update: i am now on the latest July update thanks to a user on Nokia 6.1 forums. What I did:
Phone - Nokia 6.1 from Carphone Warehouse UK, Sim Free with Vodafone sim. Was stuck on May 2018 patch level.
(I downloaded VPN Melon)
Popped Sim out, factory reset with sim out. Didn't restore device from previous google backup, logged into my google account. Jumped to Play Store, disabled any automatic update/download of any app. Immediately downloaded VPN Melon, connected to USA. Went to settings / check for update. Installed update (June 2018)
Update required phone reboot. Rebooted. Immediately went to Play store, stopped any auto update. Went to VPN Melon, connected to USA. Went to settings, check for update. Installed update (July 2018).
Rebooted ... did same as above. No update available. Factory reset phone, pushed in sim card when it rebooted, restored google account from previous backup, all good.
mike360 said:
Still haven't received any updates since May getting annoying now Nokia are getting like Motorola/Lenovo.
Update: i am now on the latest July update thanks to a user on Nokia 6.1 forums. What I did:
Phone - Nokia 6.1 from Carphone Warehouse UK, Sim Free with Vodafone sim. Was stuck on May 2018 patch level.
(I downloaded VPN Melon)
Popped Sim out, factory reset with sim out. Didn't restore device from previous google backup, logged into my google account. Jumped to Play Store, disabled any automatic update/download of any app. Immediately downloaded VPN Melon, connected to USA. Went to settings / check for update. Installed update (June 2018)
Update required phone reboot. Rebooted. Immediately went to Play store, stopped any auto update. Went to VPN Melon, connected to USA. Went to settings, check for update. Installed update (July 2018).
Rebooted ... did same as above. No update available. Factory reset phone, pushed in sim card when it rebooted, restored google account from previous backup, all good.
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Nice work.
July is just installing on mine now. I haven't had mine a week yet!
When I first started setting it up, it did the automatic update to the May patch but like everyone else that's as far as it went.
Only just got the SIM for it this morning (old one was a Tesco Mobile Micro that wouldn't fit) so wiping and starting again isn't a problem.
Just a shame we have to resort to 'sneaky' tactics to update
its a shame that we have to that but its only why we can update our devices iv asked Nokia about it updates and they keep saying BS that the network carriers are at fault.
Yep. Confirming this works. Whoever found it my thanks. Told Nokia how we are all updating using this method and the only reply was "anything else we can help you with"
Utter spherical objects ?
MrPeaski said:
Nice work.
July is just installing on mine now. I haven't had mine a week yet!
When I first started setting it up, it did the automatic update to the May patch but like everyone else that's as far as it went.
Only just got the SIM for it this morning (old one was a Tesco Mobile Micro that wouldn't fit) so wiping and starting again isn't a problem.
Just a shame we have to resort to 'sneaky' tactics to update
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Is it really worth having to reset your mobile to factory settings just to get a system update?
MrPeaski said:
Nice work.
July is just installing on mine now. I haven't had mine a week yet!
When I first started setting it up, it did the automatic update to the May patch but like everyone else that's as far as it went.
Only just got the SIM for it this morning (old one was a Tesco Mobile Micro that wouldn't fit) so wiping and starting again isn't a problem.
Just a shame we have to resort to 'sneaky' tactics to update
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I can also confirm this works.
Is it ok to have USA firmware on a UK device? I was also wondering if now we're on July, we might just auto get the future updates now? Maybe May was bugged?
himonster said:
I can also confirm this works.
Is it ok to have USA firmware on a UK device? I was also wondering if now we're on July, we might just auto get the future updates now? Maybe May was bugged?
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HEard from two seperate sources now (people I would trust to know too) that it is how Nokia have setup their updates that's to blame. Project treble means that the carriers have very little input into any updates especially with sim free phones. The worry is that the people who could sort it in Nokia probably don't know as Nokia care have continuously been quoting from the script to be patient, blame the carrier or the country your in and fob you off.
HMD really have dragged a solid name down with how they have handled the TA-1050 issue.
himonster said:
Is it really worth having to reset your mobile to factory settings just to get a system update?
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I'd had mine less than a week before finding this, and also did a basic setup from new as I hadn't got SIM so doing a factory reset wasn't a problem as there was nothing important on it.
I would be a pain if this has to be done each time an update comes out, but as the poster I commented on did the updates then restored a backup without apparent problems it may no be so bad. Only time will tell
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I'd had mine less than a week before finding this, and also did a basic setup from new as I hadn't got SIM so doing a factory reset wasn't a problem as there was nothing important on it.
I would be a pain if this has to be done each time an update comes out, but as the poster I commented on did the updates then restored a backup without apparent problems it may no be so bad. Only time will tell
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I'm hoping a fix for this was built into the July patch. Not sure I will bother resetting my phone every month.
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I can also confirm this works.
Is it ok to have USA firmware on a UK device? I was also wondering if now we're on July, we might just auto get the future updates now? Maybe May was bugged?
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So far I haven't had any issues.
Hopefully the next update will work as its supposed to and eliminate any potential problems.
I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks or so.
MrPeaski said:
So far I haven't had any issues.
Hopefully the next update will work as its supposed to and eliminate any potential problems.
I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks or so.
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I thought the patches came out every 1st of the month?
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I thought the patches came out every 1st of the month?
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Sorry I couldn't tell you.
Apart from regular updates of Lineage OS 14 on my previous Nexus 5, I've not bothered much with updates as they were few and far between.
I will say that this Nokia will be the first phone I've had in years that I won't be messing about rooting, custom ROMs etc. I'll be leaving it completely stock with the exception of a different launcher (Nova) and icon set
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I thought the patches came out every 1st of the month?
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The release date on the July patch was July 5th. I got it the end of last week. The previous June patch was about the same. I am not sure if they are rolling releases or if it is Nokia taking a bit of time to ensure the patch from Google does not interfere with normal operation of their Android One phones before release. In either case, I am just glad to be getting monthly security patches. This is my first smartphone to ever get monthly updates. I have owned phones from Motorola, HTC, Samsung, and LG. None of those companies was very good at releasing updates. Certainly not monthly updates. I hope the issue with your updates gets fixed. I suspect it is your carrier that is the issue, not Nokia. If it was Nokia we would all be having the problem.
I don't think it's to do with the carrier. I'm not sure. Just hope we auto get Augusts update.
I think Nokia are updating our phones to Android P this month.
Requesting DDL Upload Link to OTA files
In another thread, some genius is proactively uploading links to the OTA update files for the old Nokia 6 TA-1025. The thread is right up to date with the July 2018 patch. If someone could do the same for the TA-1050 there would be an awful lot of very grateful Nokia 6.1 owners. There is a huge thread on the Nokia forums complaining about this issue since May. My phone is stuck on the May patch, and I don't want to factory reset and use VPN as the reset process stuffs up the authorisation on my banking app. US owners are clearly receiving timely updates, so the OTA files must be available on the googleapis server, it just needs someone with the knowhow to point us less talented guys to the ZIP files. At least sideloading from an SD card is a process most users can accomplish. Thanks to anyone who can help with this...:fingers-crossed:
The problem is there are three different firmware variants for July, A, B, and E. The phone's with the E firmware when brilliantly, almost all reported issues such as crashes, reboots, temporarily dead devices etc are related to those with A and B firmware.
This is an Android One device, yet monthly updates come at the end of the month. The Nokia 6, a non-Android One device gets the month's update shortly after the release from Google. No matter what some people do, including the process outlined with the VPN, with genuine store bought devices (not grey market imports), they are stuck on June update. Again, A and B variant firmware. Ironically those with the grey import model TA-1068 are much better off with a phone that works and updates. This is the 4GB RAM model.
This device is meant to get Android 9 in a timely manner, as well as Android 10. It is also meant to get at least 31 more months of security updates in a timely manner, which I doubt since they can't get them out in a timely manner now. Will they still update it as promised by the time the 2019 and 2020 models, all requiring updates, are released? Evidence suggests they won't be able to.
Sorry for potentially asking a dumb question, but im at my wits end here.
Is there any way to completely disable OTA updates, with the stock ROM on the Pixel 4a?
Asking because i have turned automatic updates off in settings and it STILL checks and STILL force updates the phone after a week or so. This is extremely frustrating as i have very specific versions of certain apps installed, eg Google Keyboard, Vanced YouTube, Pre stories Twitter etc. They are all configured exactly how i want and when it updates it installs the latest versions and consequently ****s all the settings up at the same time. This means i have to spend a few hours uninstallling, reinstalling and re configuring the whole ****ing phone again.
So yeah, is there a way? I am rooted with magisk if thats of any benefit. Ill do anything, even if it fundamentally breaks google play store/services and requires ghetto apps like LP/Autostarts etc. I just want my device how I want, not what some trillion dollar company wants.
My last device was a Mi A2 Lite and it behaved itself perfectly before i destroyed the screen. Starting to regret this upgrade.
When you say "I have turned automatic updates off", did you do this in the play store app? If so, good.
But, you can also try these extra steps:
1) Turn on "Developer Mode" on your phone (do search for how to do this). Then go into developer options and turn off "Automatic System Updates".
2) Then do the changes I did in this post:
How do I stop update notices?
I'm rooted with Android 10 on my pixel4a. I don't want to upgrade to 11 just yet, but I keep getting the annoying update notices. Is there an app or module I can freeze with titanium to turn off the notices?
forum.xda-developers.com
Since doing these, I have not seen an "Upgrade to Android 11" (I'm on A10) message and I have not noticed any apps being forced updated.
yeah google play updates are disabled. which is interesting because after the phone updates, it re enables them, as well as a bunch of other permissions in settings!
and yeah ive disabled auto system updates in developer options, which is what im pissed about because it still updated the phone without my permission whilst i was asleep last night.
ill try and force freeze those components you listed, see if that kills it.
i might have a poke around the autostarts app later and see if i can do something there, thats if it even works with android 11.
the last time i had to do this was on my nexus 7 running kitkat lol