No more Montly Security Updates for the S8/S8+ - Samsung Galaxy S8 Guides, News, & Discussion

Samsung has moved the S8/S8+ from Montly Security Updates to Quartaly Security Updates today. That means, our phones will only be patched every four months and not regulary.
Source: https://security.samsungmobile.com/workScope.smsb
As you might already know, I only expect the S8/S8+ to be supported till early 2021. After that, it sadly reaches it's end of life, 4 yeara after it's release

Bad news...

Everyone knew it was coming happens every device since day 1. This is not new news. If Samsung had there way end of life would be on release day.

Been keeping an eye out for S10 sales, since that seems to be the last Samsung phone that will keep the headphone jack, but I had been holding off because my S8+ was still getting updates.
Looks like I better up the priority on that.

Need help or suggestions
Ok I am that that GUY! I switched from AT&T to TMobile and want AT&T gone off my phone. I have to reinstall pie anyways, but figured I would go all out now that I can and opportunity presented itself. Need help getting started. Is it worth rooting vs just hiding the ATT Bloatware? I want my phone to be updated also. I am not getting the over the air updates is other reason I want to reinstall or root.

that sucks! im running android 8 oreo right now and im planning to keep my device that way love that firmware (i dont like android 9 looks )
This is my second week using this device and is so awesome i was using an iphone 7 before this screen is amazing ♡ dont miss my iphone at all
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Other older phones are getting...

6.0 update first than the note 5....
And when you go to another manufacturer they may be worse at the next update than Samsung is. There is no consistency when it comes to updates. I have had HTCs that got updates way after Samsung did. It's all pretty much luck of the draw unless you get a Nexus device.
I get your frustration but updates alone do not determine the quality of a device or the manufacturer. Anyone come from a Note 4? Remember the 5.0.1 update that murdered the battery life? I do. 5.1.1 runs beautifully on my phone for now. I'd rather wait a bit longer for a polished update that actually improves my user experience than get fast, half-baked updates that make things worse.
I agree. Note 4 was killed. And I bought nexus 4 after so much hardships and the first update it got was after Motorola and nexus 7 devices. Hahahha even nexus ditched me.
As bad as it is, if you want steady updates get a nexus. I swore off samsung long ago but still played with a note 3 from time to time then one day in Costco, I saw they were running a promotion on the Note 5 where you get all the pay offers but also a $250 Costco card and when I added it all up plus the headphones, wireless charger and the portable charger the deal was just to good and I bit. I do miss frequent updates, the freedom of running whatever I wanted or compiling my own with various cherry picks but I new that going into another samsung device. You have to consider the advantages of the Note 5, it's arguably one of the fastest phones, good camera, good battery life and the s-pen. For all that you don't get zero day updates.
Ducter said:
As bad as it is, if you want steady updates get a nexus. I swore off samsung long ago but still played with a note 3 from time to time then one day in Costco, I saw they were running a promotion on the Note 5 where you get all the pay offers but also a $250 Costco card and when I added it all up plus the headphones, wireless charger and the portable charger the deal was just to good and I bit. I do miss frequent updates, the freedom of running whatever I wanted or compiling my own with various cherry picks but I new that going into another samsung device. You have to consider the advantages of the Note 5, it's arguably one of the fastest phones, good camera, good battery life and the s-pen. For all that you don't get zero day updates.
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I did want steady udpates but couldnt afford to pay full price on a nexus 6p. I couldve got the 6s+ but I came from a 5s so i wanted to try something new. Note 5 was the best when comparing them to the other android flagships at the tmobile store... so i chose it. Before, i heard from someone or an article stating that samsung was going to push updates quicker this time around, and that google will pressure manufacturers to release updates more early. I guess samsung didnt care.. i learned my lesson. This is also my first samsung device.
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I get your frustration but updates alone do not determine the quality of a device or the manufacturer. Anyone come from a Note 4? Remember the 5.0.1 update that murdered the battery life? I do. 5.1.1 runs beautifully on my phone for now. I'd rather wait a bit longer for a polished update that actually improves my user experience than get fast, half-baked updates that make things worse.
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I understand what youre saying but how long has marshmallow been out? Since october, right? Almost 4 months. And manufactures are already releasing 6.0 update to their devices.. Eh... whatever. I shouldnt complain, because i dont like complaining. But, i just hate it when people dont keep their word.
I think I'm missing the point here. The pic you posted specifically states only a few Lg G3s got the update. I understand your issue is that it's an older phone and it still got MM before ours did, but even if you were to ditch the Note 5 for a G3, there's still a solid chance you won't be on MM. The only way to guarantee you get the latest update timely is to get a nexus. It's a total crap shoot when it comes to OEMs and updates. This year Samsung is behind, next year it will be another OEM, then another after that. Just about every OEM specific forum complains about slow updates.
Right now, 5.1.1 runs like a bandit on the Note 5. I'd rather Samsung polish it up and release a fully functional, bug-free update, than rush it out the door and destroy my battery life. Plus, who's to say that MM doesn't run like poop on the G3?
My T-Mobile Note5 has had 4 updates already. So technically, Samsung is pushing updates faster. Plus, I mean, it's difficult to punish the manufacturers when the carriers are often what causes delays. I'd rather they take their time then push out a crappy, half-baked update. I don't feel as though I am missing out on anything. I have an M9 (international version. US carriers haven't pushed it) running Marshmallow and it's not all that much different on the surface. Sure Marshmallow adds Doze, permission and more under the hood goodies, but it isn't the be all end all of updates.
Yoshi1221 said:
Frustration is understood, but you also expressed your opinion on other posts. If your really that pissed off, just change different brands. Don't keep complaining. Look at the Note 4 thread complaining about the Note 5 features. Everyone that bought this phone should have known from the start that Samsung may not be "timely" with their updates. So? If your phone is working fine, then why complain about it now. If you go to an iPhone 6s+, just warning you, you will miss the features of Android. If you want updates to happen at a timely manner, go with the nexus 6P or 5X since they get updates straight from Google.
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That what kills me, if it works then why be chomping at the bit for the next update in such a way that now you have to run out and get an iPhone. I mean even with the security argument of having older versions of android, now with how they drop service updates that even becomes a thing of the past.
If updates are that important to someone then being an informed consumer would've done this guy a lot of justice instead of running out and impulse buying The Next Big Thing, only to throw a fit over it later.
I would have gotten the 6p if carriers sold it since my work provides my phones as long as the carrier or my choice sells it.
I went with the Note 5 as the best alternative option for my wants and an very happy with the device. Being the first Note I've owned, I really am amazed at how much I like and use the s-pen and at this point don't think I'd want to give it up for the 6P if I could.
The only I'm looking forward to with marshmallow is Doze and the finger print API being switched over to Androids own implementation as I hope it allows me to use my finger print with play store purchases.
All of this talk is making me hungry. Guess I will go have me some marshmallows since my phone can't
Can't rush perfection lol
Looks like sammy is learning from its past
This is been going on since I had the vibrant back in the day. Nexus devices are the only sure way to get updates in a timely matter.
Seriously why do people get up in arms about updates? Marshmallow isnt even that big of a deal anyways. Coming on here and saying you're done with Samsung all because your phone didn't get the update yet is...well...kind of pointless.
Not saying you dont have a right to voice your opinion, but its pointless to get upset over an update. We don't even need an update. Are we really going to benefit from MM? Straight up no.
Leave Samsung, fine. But dont do it just because of a software update. Do it because they suck at making great devices, which obviously they don't.
I'm glad you're able to get a Nexus, at least you will finally be happy to get updates. It sucks losing a fellow device user, but it is what it is.
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Yeah...I'm frustrated too, but I'm not DONE with Samsung. I just call T-Mobile, gripe a bit to Corporate, get a $150 credit! Takes the sting right outta my update complaint. Hahahaha! WINNING!
Please don't talk about quality saying be patient.... Really look at all the other phone manufacturers releasing updates, and we are sitting on one of the flagship phones and don't have access to 6.0.... No excuses,
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Please don't talk about quality saying be patient.... Really look at all the other phone manufacturers releasing updates, and we are sitting on one of the flagship phones and don't have access to 6.0.... No excuses,
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A what other phones have received Marshmallow? Just a couple and those aren't US carrier phones. The fact is, most often US carrier branded phones don't ever get updates before international unlocked phones. The carriers are to blame for that, not the manufacturers. Realistically, very few phones have the Marshmallow update.
Jammol said:
Seriously why do people get up in arms about updates? Marshmallow isnt even that big of a deal anyways. Coming on here and saying you're done with Samsung all because your phone didn't get the update yet is...well...kind of pointless.
Not saying you dont have a right to voice your opinion, but its pointless to get upset over an update. We don't even need an update. Are we really going to benefit from MM? Straight up no.
Leave Samsung, fine. But dont do it just because of a software update. Do it because they suck at making great devices, which obviously they don't.
I'm glad you're able to get a Nexus, at least you will finally be happy to get updates. It sucks losing a fellow device user, but it is what it is.
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Doze will help battery life, and some people are into permissions selection, but that's about it. It's a mentality that some folks have. If they don't have the newest and "best" they feel as if they're missing out. Like I said, I have an HTC M9 running Marshmallow and it's kind of a meh update. Not nearly as exciting as Lollipop was. It's just a mindset with some folk. *shrug*
I agree with others here in regards to Samsung/TMO pushing out smaller updates faster. When that stagefright crap went down, and pretty much all OEMs said 'we are going to start releasing monthly updates', I laughed. No way that was going to happen. 3 or so months later and they have actually been doing a pretty good job. Baby steps.
And let us not forget, TMO doesn't help the problem... they usually make it worse. Two levels to updates.
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I've got the 6p and note 5 and I can tell you the only your missing is doze, permission selection, and imprint. Although layers is enabled in 6.0 we n5 users probably won't be able to use it anyway
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March and Still no Marshmallow update...

Its been said that marshmallow should be releases in march....hoping samsung deliver delivers this time
It's never coming. Just buy a Nexus 6p or gs7.
A GS7 will have the same issue for the next update. It's just how it goes. Only a Nexus phone will ever have the latest OS when it's out.
I try to focus on what I want out of a phone as it is when I buy it and go into it knowing that's how it'll be until my next phone and it makes for being a happier Android owner.
Also, phones that have a Snapdragon proc will usually have more of an active ROM community. From what I've read on the SG7, they're shipping with a mix of Exynos and Snapdragon processors, so even that is a gamble.
My village shamen said Marshmallow is a state of being, and once you find your spiritual center, you will find Marshmallow. Namaste
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My village shamen said Marshmallow is a state of being, and once you find your spiritual center, you will find Marshmallow. Namaste
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Hahahahah!. You just won the internet, sir. Greatest comment I've read on anything in a long time.
You could always tweet John Legere saying how un-uncarrier it is that Verizon came out with the MM update for the Note 5 before T-Mo did.
Hey Guys,
Let's all take a chill pill and relax. We're all disappointed that Marshmallow isn't out yet but going after each other isn't going to get it here any faster.
We are all here for the same thing and are part of a community that wants the same thing. If we're tired of waiting for Samsung and T-Mobile to do it why don't we take matters into our own hands? Somebody see if they can port the Verizon build to T-Mobile, build a Cyanogen or AOKP based ROM, etc. You can learn something from it and help the community!
Now let's keep it civil here or this thread and others like it will be closed.
Thanks!
Rwilco12
rwilco12 said:
Hey Guys,
Let's all take a chill pill and relax. We're all disappointed that Marshmallow isn't out yet but going after each other isn't going to get it here any faster.
We are all here for the same thing and are part of a community that wants the same thing. If we're tired of waiting for Samsung and T-Mobile to do it why don't we take matters into our own hands? Somebody see if they can port the Verizon build to T-Mobile, build a Cyanogen or AOKP based ROM, etc. You can learn something from it and help the community!
Now let's keep it civil here or this thread and others like it will be closed.
Thanks!
Rwilco12
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Thanks buddy. ))
Verizon got Android M today! On the note 5.
AngioNicholai said:
Verizon got Android M today! On the note 5.
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It definitely has..
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That's just an update to the backup and restore manager for galaxy apps. That's not a firmware update.
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Relax everyone! Hopefully with the release of the update on Verizon, we are not far behind! I never unsterstand it, a new Android firmware is released, and evryone goes crazy saying they got to have it, and honestly for me, when we finally do receive it, it wasn't really worth all the hype. Well at least not for me sometimes
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Relax everyone! Hopefully with the release of the update on Verizon, we are not far behind! I never unsterstand it, a new Android firmware is released, and evryone goes crazy saying they got to have it, and honestly for me, when we finally do receive it, it wasn't really worth all the hype. Well at least not for me sometimes
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It's almost never worth the hype on skinned phones. Especially when you look at the number of features already added to skinned phones.
I underta de what you say that is not su such a big deal.....butt the thing is samsung is always careless....t theyre always releasing late updates.....thats whats really disappointing.....we all Know that samsung owes devs most igual not all is prestige for the fact that the only reason we liked samsung its because all the roms and features we can do withh a rooted phone
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I underta de what you say that is not su such a big deal.....butt the thing is samsung is always careless....t theyre always releasing late updates.....thats whats really disappointing.....we all Know that samsung owes devs most igual not all is prestige for the fact that the only reason we liked samsung its because all the roms and features we can do withh a rooted phone
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What non nexus/moto OEM doesn't release late updates? Also what constitutes late if you were never given a tentative date? If Samsung never said you will get the update on this date how can you hold them responsible?
Yeah it would be nice but no one promised a time frame and if you keep buying their devices you are telling them whatever they are doing they are doing right.
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I agree with above statement. Did someone personally say the date it will be released? Also as said in nauseum what do you people expect from these updates and if updates are your life having a Samsung is not the way to go. After its all said and done you barely notice any changes anyway. Again I am not saying anything you have not heard or read prior.
Take a look at the T-Mobile site to see the progress of the Marshmallow update.
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
^^^
It shows its still under manufacturer testing, so we're right where we started.
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What a joke, let's look forward to Android N in 2018

Looks like android N is here - What now ?

Just saw that the Android N just came out....
What now, will someone port the version over to S7 devices or will be have to wait on Samsung to update :/ ?
We have to wait Samsung..I will test CM 14 on my Moto G 2013 when it's released
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Damn, i want it asap
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You can look at all the features of android 7.0 here.
https://www.android.com/versions/nougat-7-0/
Let's hope Samsung gives it to us this year.
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Damn, i want it asap
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You're not the only one
If i knew how to do it, i would use all my spare time to try and see if i could port it....
But all the spare time i had for the past 7 years. I have used to do Graphic design XDD
Shuuin said:
If i knew how to do it, i would use all my spare time to try and see if i could port it....
But all the spare time i had for the past 7 years. I have used to do Graphic design XDD
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Any developers here would do it if it was somwhat posibile but Samsung doesn't release the source code of Exynos so it's somewhat impossibile. It's like you need to build a town with buildings but you don't have a map of pipes to see here you need to put it...
Developers need to write all the drivers and with guessing what where it goes and really is impossibile.
My Moto G 2013 will get CM 14 beacuse Motorola released the source code for Android 5.1 and they have a starting point. Here we have nothing.
Not going to happen. We'll see it in roughly six months.... Oh well... Samsung supports their devices like one time phones. Only sales matters no support. They have let their customers down so many times now...
I'm afraid that they'll make some patch and security update of Android 6 for S7/Edge sooner. But let's hope that they'll push hard for Note 7 and some king will port it on S7.
I'd start hunt for it. I feel free to give 20 USD donate for stable (almost) clean Android 7 ROM
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You can look at all the features of android 7.0 here.
https://www.android.com/versions/nougat-7-0/
Let's hope Samsung gives it to us this year.
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Im sure the international phones will get it this year, carrier phones will get it next year heh
As Eurofighter_ty said above, there will be no "porting" of Android N (or any other non-Touchwiz ROM like CyanogenMod) to a Samsung device with an Exynos SoC due to proprietary sources that Samsung will not release. There are exceptions where an extremely talented and motivated dev takes the time to reverse engineer drivers.
If history serves, it will be several months before Samsung starts rolling Nougat out, newest and most important devices first (N7, S7, S7E...). These are things to know before buying any Samsung device.
Maybe, i should just wait for S8 then XD
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You can look at all the features of android 7.0 here.
https://www.android.com/versions/nougat-7-0/
Let's hope Samsung gives it to us this year.
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thx cusa
I actual don't see why to rush this thing marshmallow is perfectly fine for me..
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I actual don't see why to rush this thing marshmallow is perfectly fine for me..
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I would agree, I've seen major android updates in the past where its been like a step backwards and so it only leads to disappointment. Hopefully we are at a stage with android where this update (6 to 7) is more of a polishing of the current OS. Yes I know there are some additional features but its not a major overhaul as we've had in the past. I think most people would mostly appreciate some better consistency with battery life, Im not saying mine isnt good but there still seems to be a high android OS usage,so hopefully the enhanced doze feature tackles this, but we'll see. The one benefit of not getting the update right now is that over the next few months hopefully a lot of issues will be ironed out, for instance app compatibility. There are almost always cases where "I've just upgraded but now XXXX app doesnt work??" and you have to wait for the dev to update so their app so that it works nicely with the latest release.
Some of the Android N features are already in the S7. Multi window for example. Or Android for Work which overlaps with Knox. Other stuff is nice but only for new devices, like the seamless updates. The new JIT may be an exception, and the new graphics subsystem would also be nice.
About the VR stuff: I double Samsung will enable it for the Gear VR but we can of course hope.
Expect to have android N next year around April or May
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Pure to get N

https://motog3.com/motorola-android-7-0-nougat-update/
Updated Sept 1st, not sure how reliable but says there we will be getting it!
While I would like to assume that the Moto x pure edition will get it, this article seems to be an opinion piece with little or no supporting info other than his ramblings and definitely nothing from Lenovo/Moto.
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Nice. Another garbage site with no credible info. I love how in their comments this "Motorola" author is answering questions on wether or not so and so device will get Nougat, like they're 100% sure.
Would love to see the source. Anyone can take a guess like this and have a good chance of getting it right. What got me: The G4 line "might" get the update?! WT... The phone was practically just released so unless Lenovo just really wants to destroy the Moto product line, it would be stupid not to release N for the phone.
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Would love to see the source. Anyone can take a guess like this and have a good chance of getting it right. What got me: The G4 line "might" get the update?! WT... The phone was practically just released so unless Lenovo just really wants to destroy the Moto product line, it would be stupid not to release N for the phone.
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The g4s are garbage and I spoke to a rep today and he told me to stay away from them haha a Lenovo rep said this! Bought one yesterday and the screen was all glitchy took it back today traded it out and paid the difference for the plus and same thing before even leaving the parking lot. Finally got pissed and said screw it and got a moto x pure style again. Loved this phone the first time I had it and love it now! Guernetee it gets nuoget and if it dosent.. well.. there will ALWAYS be Roms haha lol. But what I was trying to get at with the g4 phones is that's more than likely the reason they "might" get it.. I'd doubt it though honestly. Lenovo ruined the Motorola line. Ya the z is bad ass but come on man. The pure style was the best phone they had made in YEARS! Besides the Nexus 6. I'm super disappointed in the joke Lenovo has made!
Reasons to believe End of September to mid-October is the best hope to get nougat for MXPE:
- it coincides with quarterly security updates for this device
- it's about the same time difference from Google releasing marshmallow last year.
- it skipped 6.0.1 so it has just time to play with N previews.
- it's the period when the new Moto flagship will be released unlocked worldwide. That means these devices will be getting an update quickly (inclusion Verizon already offered on US) to boost sales. But also updating its previous flagship would convince customers to buy the newest flagship. I believe that sales of Moto Z international will not be good if our device does not get an update on the framework i mentioned. Didn't we all by this device because we thought it would be updated quickly?
- Finally, I believe all the hype in the media that mentions Motorola as a company that is expected to deliver fast nougat update is financed by Motorola itself. While they won't give us directly a timeframe, they use media to keep up the sales of their new and numerous line of devices. Not to forget that Moto maker still has stocks of MXPE which they want to sell, but strangely have not lowered the price since mother's day...
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Reasons to believe End of September to mid-October is the best hope to get nougat for MXPE:
- it coincides with quarterly security updates for this device
- it's about the same time difference from Google releasing marshmallow last year.
- it skipped 6.0.1 so it has just time to play with N previews.
- it's the period when the new Moto flagship will be released unlocked worldwide. That means these devices will be getting an update quickly (inclusion Verizon already offered on US) to boost sales. But also updating its previous flagship would convince customers to buy the newest flagship. I believe that sales of Moto Z international will not be good if our device does not get an update on the framework i mentioned. Didn't we all by this device because we thought it would be updated quickly?
- Finally, I believe all the hype in the media that mentions Motorola as a company that is expected to deliver fast nougat update is financed by Motorola itself. While they won't give us directly a timeframe, they use media to keep up the sales of their new and numerous line of devices. Not to forget that Moto maker still has stocks of MXPE which they want to sell, but strangely have not lowered the price since mother's day...
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Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
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Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
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My line of thought is simple: their new flagship costs almost twice it's predecessor, or even three times if you get a certain alluring mod. The only way to convince a buyer spend more money is to assure that expense is worth it on a longer term. Long term means continuity of updates in this business. But who will be convinced of that if Moto ditched our device before it reached a year (thinking latest update for us was the May security patches)..
You already have fears of not getting updates, probably because we didn't get 6.0.1! Would you think of buying a Z Droid if you know your mxpe would not get N (even if you could afford it)?
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My line of thought is simple: their new flagship costs almost twice it's predecessor, or even three times if you get a certain alluring mod. The only way to convince a buyer spend more money is to assure that expense is worth it on a longer term. Long term means continuity of updates in this business. But who will be convinced of that if Moto ditched our device before it reached a year (thinking latest update for us was the May security patches)..
You already have fears of not getting updates, probably because we didn't get 6.0.1! Would you think of buying a Z Droid if you know your mxpe would not get N (even if you could afford it)?
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There is some logic there and it is a theory used in the world of business. On the same token, my theory of updating the MXPE later is also a practice by businesses. Now it will just depend on what theory of business Lenovo decided to use.
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Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
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I would think that Google gives out the source code to large OEMs before they release it to the general public so some of the later Q3 devices can all run the new version. Also, Moto built their reputation on relatively quick software updates for their supported phones, and I don't think Lenovo would mess with that image too much as to not hurt current sales.
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There is some logic there and it is a theory used in the world of business. On the same token, my theory of updating the MXPE later is also a practice by businesses. Now it will just depend on what theory of business Lenovo decided to use.
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Oh well, i think you misunderstood me. I'm not saying that the Z will be upgraded after MXPE. I actually think once the Z will be available worldwide it will get the N update to boost sales. I'm only saying that it would be difficult to convince people to buy an expensive phone unless they have a guarantee it will be a long investment. Updating quickly the XPE should give that guarantee that even Z will be maintained after its one year anniversary.
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https://motog3.com/motorola-android-7-0-nougat-update/
Updated Sept 1st, not sure how reliable but says there we will be getting it!
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That motog3 site is just an pile of advertisements and SEO bait. It's not legit.
After dealing with Moto/Lenovo support a few times, my impression is that Lenovo is struggling to appear like they know what they're doing. Their repair program is musical chairs, tech support doesn't know what's going on, and they haven't been able to maintain the software. Even if they've outsourced Nougat, I doubt they've purchased any followup bug fixes.
I just saw that CM14 7.0 dropped for the Android One, Oneplus 3 and a few others today. That should help things along a bit. Once it exists, as it now does, it usually makes it's way to other devices pretty quickly. :fingers-crossed:
i want ask ... i don't know if my question is stupid or not LooL
if lenovo dont include our MOTO X phone to update list
can the Rom developer here make custom ROM with N Update? or they need something from lenovo (like permission or code) ?
Zekial said:
I would think that Google gives out the source code to large OEMs before they release it to the general public so some of the later Q3 devices can all run the new version. Also, Moto built their reputation on relatively quick software updates for their supported phones, and I don't think Lenovo would mess with that image too much as to not hurt current sales.
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But you should believe @Zekial When Moto, was a Google Company, and not official bought by lenovo, they update their smartphones very fast, Nexus 5 receive Lollipop after Moto X . Now Moto sucks, only this week in germany they update their phones to 6.0.1 (security update from may ).
Pure will be updated for N, when is the problem, could be this year or in the next.
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
dammit, and i just rooted my phone finally today.
AsquareX said:
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
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I don't think that article tells us anything we don't already know. I read it yesterday and it just says "should" and "probably" with no sources.
AsquareX said:
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
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Just another fluff article... zero information, just speculation and opinion.
The "news" now on neurigedget... Hmm
not officially confirmed
http://neurogadget.net/2016/09/24/m...tedly-get-android-nougat-update-october/40315
Meanwhile, the Moto X Play, Moto X Style, and Moto X Force, will receive the update on November.
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Google Assistant in Nougat?

If we're now running EMUI 5 on our Honor 8's, is there a way of getting Google Assistant on there now?
Or is it a case of rooting and changing the Build Prop file, like I did on my old Samsung Note 3 that I flashed with an unofficial CyanogenMod 14.1 build to 7.1? I know that will screw up my warranty, and seeing as I've only had the phone 3 weeks, I'll wait...
montana_uk75 said:
If we're now running EMUI 5 on our Honor 8's, is there a way of getting Google Assistant on there now?
Or is it a case of rooting and changing the Build Prop file, like I did on my old Samsung Note 3 that I flashed with an unofficial CyanogenMod 14.1 build to 7.1? I know that will screw up my warranty, and seeing as I've only had the phone 3 weeks, I'll wait...
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I'm sure all those things will come to us if we just wait.
I'm not going to root and mess about with this phone. It will be the first time !
As we're getting 2 years worth of updates then I'm sure we will get all that there is available.
I am in the beta group for Android N and I got it this morning and I'm really impressed !
It totally changed the phone.
My flat mate has the pixel and since I have downloaded this latest update our honor 8 is looking better and running better than the pixel by a long way.
I have been using the two side by side and there is no way I would swap.
So in my option it's best to keep the phone as it is till the updates stop then root it.
Only my opinion !
John
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
johnhux7 said:
I'm sure all those things will come to us if we just wait.
I'm not going to root and mess about with this phone. It will be the first time !
As we're getting 2 years worth of updates then I'm sure we will get all that there is available.
I am in the beta group for Android N and I got it this morning and I'm really impressed !
It totally changed the phone.
My flat mate has the pixel and since I have downloaded this latest update our honor 8 is looking better and running better than the pixel by a long way.
I have been using the two side by side and there is no way I would swap.
So in my option it's best to keep the phone as it is till the updates stop then root it.
Only my opinion !
John
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
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Yeah, I agree with you. No point rushing off and causing issues with my warranty just yet. I waited 2 years before I even started flashing my old Note 3 after all, and that's only because it was stuck with Lollipop, despite being up the task of running the newer releases of Android. It's good that Huawei / Honor are allowing at least 2 years of updates to be released to their phones.
I'm gonna wait (somewhat impatiently). Google say that the Assistant will be a Pixel exclusive, but we all now they will "share the love" eventually (just so it helps them with data mining etc)..
montana_uk75 said:
Yeah, I agree with you. No point rushing off and causing issues with my warranty just yet. I waited 2 years before I even started flashing my old Note 3 after all, and that's only because it was stuck with Lollipop, despite being up the task of running the newer releases of Android. It's good that Huawei / Honor are allowing at least 2 years of updates to be released to their phones.
I'm gonna wait (somewhat impatiently). Google say that the Assistant will be a Pixel exclusive, but we all now they will "share the love" eventually (just so it helps them with data mining etc)..
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You sound like a sensible man. I think we have a great phone and ROM to go with it.
I'm lucky that I have other phones to play with to fill my rooting needs !!
I have a S3 that I'm just flashing CM14.1 so I really have no need to mess about with this one.
I'm so impressed with this phone !!!
We made a good choice and with 4GB ram to play with I dint think we have seen even half of what they can do with it.
Cheers
John
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