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Hey everyone,
I need some help determining my options for getting a replacement Touch Pro 2. Last Saturday night I dropped the TP2 and it now has a large scrap on the bottom corner. Obviously this is frustrating since it’s only two weeks old! What are my options to receive a new one? I have paid for insurance over the last few years and have never lost or damaged a phone? Can I get a new one this way? What about swapping the phone within the 30day window? Would that work or will Verizon say I damaged the phone and they can’t swap it out? Is there anything I can do?
Any input would be greatly appreciated!
just exchange it
Is it really that easy? What will they say if the notice the scratched portion?
If you pay for TEP/insurance, user caused damage and loss is usually covered with a $85 deductable (for Verizon anyway, might be higher/lower for you).
$85 on top of the $489 I have already paid? I think I'm going to call and say the phone was scratched since day one and it really has been bothering me lately. Think that will work? They really won't know.
Now what would happen if they get the phone and notice not a small scratch but more of a scrap on the phone and think it's the user's fault? Would I be in trouble or will the phone just go right back to HTC to be refurbished?
Anyone else have any experience with something like this?
A scratch isn't really damage, do you expect the phone to be in pristine condition forever? It's wear and tear, I'd ignore it and not abuse the insurance system. What if you drop it and break it a month from now and want to exchange again? And then 8 months later? The insurance program has a limit, I'd not waste it on a scratch. Remember, how awesome your phone looks doesn't reflect on you as a person.
Sorry to hear about that but an option is to wait and see if you can get some sort of hardcase or silicone cover to hide the scrape/scratch
I haven't even activated mine yet until I can get at least some sort of protection on it.
Ok, here's an update. I just realized since i havent texted too much since the drop, the phone actually shuts off when I slide it open. Something happened. Now the mark isn't too bad, but if I send it back to Verizon saying it's a defect and they investigate the phone, will I be charged for two if they feel it was my fault?
These guys are smart enough to know a defect from a mishandling.
well, i am swapping mine out on Friday. I simply popped out the backlight button and said that it popped out when I was closing the keyboard. The only issue they had was getting the replacement into the store, since the stores dont have them yet. I got the phone about 2 weeks ago.
Why in the world would you have paid 489 for the phone? thats crazy. I would just do the exchange in store instead. Just go in and dont say anything about the blemish, just show them it shutting off. surely they will swap it out after ordering a replacement.
Two things. First I sold my Storm on Ebay for $250. So I actually only paid $239 without renewing a contract or anything.
I went to the store last night and had them take a look at it. They saw no evidence of damage (the mark is really minor, just frustrates me that it happened two weeks in!). They agreed and marked the account saying that the phone was defective. The manager actually searched online and said this is a known issue with both the Sprint and Verizon versions that there's something wrong with the ribbon connecting the two sliding pieces.
Anyway they have shipped me a replacement phone which should be here on Thursday. I'm not 100% convinced I actually damanged the phone. This issue was happening on Saturday night before the drop, I think.
I think I should be ok. Just frustrated I now need to reapply the Ghost Armor on a second phone!
Can someone post a picture of "dust under the screen" I'm a bit confuses on what people mean when they post this problem.
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Well far as I know as the dust is behind/underneath the touch screen glass. Which does happen trust me sometimes it gets in as in my HD2 I saw dust in rare camera and behind the screen which was not present when I got it but as time went on. DWAI it as its not that serious unless you have OCD or something as it bothers you lol then its another issue.
I had it on my first device, very obnoxious. I take good care of my phone and am constantly wiping the smudges off the screen. It looks like dust ON the screen that just never budges no matter how hard you rub it with a microfiber.
If you take excellent care of your phones it will piss you off to no end. If you always have smudges on your screen and you don't notice then don't worry about it.
I have dust right above my front facing camera
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SOB just found dust on the display on the top right side, IDK WTF that got in as its only 2days old and I didn't even use much.
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SOB just found dust on the display on the top right side, IDK WTF that got in as its only 2days old and I didn't even use much.
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That sucks, my first one had that. Not cool.
Time to return it.
Phateless said:
That sucks, my first one had that. Not cool.
Time to return it.
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Hmm, you know - I think I just found a dust speck under my screen too...on the lower center of the screen, there's this little dot that I can't clean away with a cloth. Pretty small, and wouldn't have found it unless I scrutinized the screen. I think I'm going to mention this as well as my inferior screen when I go in for an exchange so it'll hopefully go smoother.
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Hmm, you know - I think I just found a dust speck under my screen too...on the lower center of the screen, there's this little dot that I can't clean away with a cloth. Pretty small, and wouldn't have found it unless I scrutinized the screen. I think I'm going to mention this as well as my inferior screen when I go in for an exchange so it'll hopefully go smoother.
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Couldn't hurt. I even flat out told the rep, "I know I'm being a little nitpicky, but this is your FLAGSHIP DEVICE and I've been with you guys for 6 years. I want it to be right."
They really can't argue with that.
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Hmm, you know - I think I just found a dust speck under my screen too...on the lower center of the screen, there's this little dot that I can't clean away with a cloth. Pretty small, and wouldn't have found it unless I scrutinized the screen. I think I'm going to mention this as well as my inferior screen when I go in for an exchange so it'll hopefully go smoother.
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I just got my replacement because of 10 dust specs under my touchscreen. I referred them to the t-mobile forum and they believed me. My new one has the good screen and the built quality seems to be better. Good Luck with exchanging your phone.
10 dust :O well I can't say about you but this device is 2days old so IDK wtf it got in as I barely even used it.
HyperNode said:
10 dust :O well I can't say about you but this device is 2days old so IDK wtf it got in as I barely even used it.
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I had my MT4G for nearly 2 months....it was the second one. I am almost sure it will happen again. As long as I don't see it it's fine;-)
As I was reading this thread I removed my screen protector and sure enough I have little black spots under my screen and this completely pisses me off. I baby my phones to the point that my girlfriend and I get into heated arguments and to have dust under the screen is unexceptionable. I'd call T-Mobile right this f###ing second if I didn't want to be on hold for over an hour which is something that is down right ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!
I just called in for an exchange. They asked me to pay $9.99 for shipping, and I said that I felt it was unfair for them to charge me if it was not my fault that the phone came like this.
When I asked them to just cancel everything, since I am still under the 30 day remorse period (in CA, that is), they transferred me to the supervisor of the customer loyalty department. I explained the story to her and she waived the shipping fee for standard 3 day shipping.
I then asked her if this will be a new phone, or if it will be refurbished. She told me that it will either "be new, or be like-new," but the package will only have the phone and nothing else; no battery, instruction manual, accessories, etc. Do all T-MO exchanges come like that, or do they just send out refurbished ones?
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I just called in for an exchange. They asked me to pay $9.99 for shipping, and I said that I felt it was unfair for them to charge me if it was not my fault that the phone came like this.
When I asked them to just cancel everything, since I am still under the 30 day remorse period (in CA, that is), they transferred me to the supervisor of the customer loyalty department. I explained the story to her and she waived the shipping fee for standard 3 day shipping.
I then asked her if this will be a new phone, or if it will be refurbished. She told me that it will either "be new, or be like-new," but the package will only have the phone and nothing else; no battery, instruction manual, accessories, etc. Do all T-MO exchanges come like that, or do they just send out refurbished ones?
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In all the time I've been with them (since Voicestream was still around), I've only ever received one phone new in the box. It was the Behold 2 (what a joke of a phone...) and only because it was only 1 week after the release of the phone and as such they didn't have any refurbished phones available yet.
Otherwise, every single phone I've received as a replacement has been in the standard return box with only the phone in a plastic bag with the foam cushioning in the box.
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In all the time I've been with them (since Voicestream was still around), I've only ever received one phone new in the box. It was the Behold 2 (what a joke of a phone...) and only because it was only 1 week after the release of the phone and as such they didn't have any refurbished phones available yet.
Otherwise, every single phone I've received as a replacement has been in the standard return box with only the phone in a plastic bag with the foam cushioning in the box.
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Did you receive new or refurbished phones? Is there any way to tell the difference?
Honestly, I couldn't tell between refurbished and new. They don't really tell you, and as far as I know, there isn't a way to tell.
I'm sure that I got refurbished on a few of them, but in a lot of cases the refurbished phones are in better shape and go through more testing than the new phones.
Thank you for the information, Porter.
So my wife is the proud owner of a Galaxy S4 and I was stoked to have finally convinced her to get rid of her POS iPhone. Unfortunately she had the phone for about a week before our daughter got a hold of it and promptly dropped it on the concrete. Since my wife was not sure if she wanted to keep your iphone or the S4 in the beginning, at that point the phone was neekid (case arrived the day after it was dropped!). Needless the say the screen shattered and there were some groovy dings in the chrome bezel and no we did not have insurance.
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So I started doing research into different companies that would do the repair. I came across a company in VA called Rockit Repairs (www.rockitrepairs.com). After talking to them on the phone and reviewing their work on FB I felt comfortable with sending my wife's phone there to have it repaired. Needless to say, this was a huge mistake. I will give them credit for standing by their word but so far the only thing they have done is screw me over.
The first problem I had was with return shipping. I paid an extra $20 to have the phone overnighted back to me. It took them three days from when they told me the phone had been shipped before I got an actual tracking number. Obviously they had not shipped it until then. That was a Saturday so I did not receive the phone until that Tuesday. When I called them on it they offered to refund my overnight shipping.
The repair job itself was horrible. First of all there were to scratches on the LCD underneath the front glass. One went about half length of the screen and the other was about 1/3rd the length of the screen. There were over a dozen pry marks in the chrome bezel and there were all sorts of crap between the front glass and the LCD. Some of which was dust and others that were bigger - possibly food crumbs.... IDK. Portions of the touch screen were not as responsive as they should have been. I called them again and I talked to a guy named Jim who said he is the one that did the actual work. Jim apologized and said that he did not see this when he sent it (I don't know how) and to send it back so they could do it right.
All that stuff you see on the screen, yeah that is actually under the front glass.
So I sent it back and they said they had to order a LCD, overnight, from their supplier. The next day I get an updated saying the phone was repaired and shipped and I was even given a tracking number. Again, they couldn't even get the shipping right because they were suppose to overnight it but sent it 3 day priority. How can you trust a company that can't do something as simple as ship a package correctly? Because of their error in shipping, I didn't get the phone back for 4 days (weekend).
The second time we got the phone back it looked much, much better. Everything looked great. I originally though that they must have replaced the entire front assembly this time because the chrome bezel was replaced as well. However, my excitement didn't last long. When I got the phone home, I pulled the battery to look at the serial number to make sure it matched the box. It did but it was obvious that the sticker had been peeled up at some point. Since the phone was working and looked great I just let it go. I assumed that there was a screw under the sticker that they had to remove. I was far from right.
Six days after we got the phone back the LCD started to get lines through it, or it would just not turn on, or it would be all white, or the colors would be reversed. Basically the LCD was shot. At this point I was done with Rockit Repairs. I told them to refund every penny or I would do a chargeback via my credit card company. They did not argue at all. That same day I took the phone to a local repair shop to have them figure out what is going on. Now you may ask why didn't I go to this place originally and that is a valid question. When I talked to them on the phone I didn't really like their attitude. I don't know if I caught the dude on a bad day or what but I didn't get a good vibe from him. Anyway, we started talking about what was going and I asked about the sticker under the battery. This is where it gets fun.
By the end of the day the phone was completely unusable.
The repair tech at the local shop, First Class Cell Phone Repair, told me there was no screw under there and that most likely this other shop had created a Frankenstein phone. That they probably took a parts S4, maybe a water damaged phone or something along these lines, and replaced some of the internals with the parts from my wife's phone and slapped our serial number sticker on this other chassis. I cannot confirm that they did do this but I do know that I never agreed to this and at no point was it ever even discussed with me. The local shop is going to see if they can determine the issue with the phone and they are going to take pictures of everything they see. If they are of the opinion that they Frankensteined my phone, well it won't be a good day for Rockit Repairs.
The odd thing is, this company seemed legit. They have a nice public facebook page with over 2200 likes. Lots of stories about repairs and satisfied customers. Local papers doing write ups about their shop. They seemed for real. But seriously, they have screwed up every step of this process and had lied to me and did some extremely shady things. Maybe their regular customers are idiots? If anyone who reads this needs their phone fixed, don't send it to Rockit Repairs.
Anyone else have any experience with this shop?
So I just got off the phone with Rockit Repairs and they clarified their repair process the 2nd time around. He explained that the part he ordered was the entire chassis and not the LCD (even though in the reply on my ticket said only LCD). I don't know where they ordered the part from but I have found vendors that do sell the chassis for the S4 and it is essentially the front glass, lcd, housing for the logic board and the other internal workings.
They did apologize profusely and stated that they had never had issues like this before but seriously, even if the repair was done right the first time the shipping issues and being lied to about the shipping issues would be enough for me to never do business with them again.
How old is your daughter? $600+ phone without insurance is a very expensive "play toy" regardless of how she got her hands on it. A case wouldn't have made a difference from the looks of the phone. Good luck with your repair process.
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How old is your daughter? $600+ phone without insurance is a very expensive "play toy" regardless of how she got her hands on it. A case wouldn't have made a difference from the looks of the phone. Good luck with your repair process.
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She is 2 but we don't let her play with out phones. I have an old busted HTC phone that she plays a few games on but not our phones. My wife just left it on table and then walked away. Trust me, she feels pretty stupid about it.
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She is 2 but we don't let her play with out phones. I have an old busted HTC phone that she plays a few games on but not our phones. My wife just left it on table and then walked away. Trust me, she feels pretty stupid about it.
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Sorry to hear that. Kids seem to be able to get into everything. I've seen parts (Digitizer and screen) available for around $200 - $250 US and videos on youtube showing how to replace the part(s), but it's something I would rather have someone else do as well.
Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I wouldn't use Facebook as a source for accurate information on a company reliability since i believe they can pretty much edit every post and delete any that don't agree with what they have to say.
I have insurance myself for my s4 and indeed for my son's iphone 4s. but sadly it still cost about $200 with insurance to replace his iphone when he dropped it into the ocean. Apparently there are other companies not affiliated with the carriers who offer better insurance but I haven't looked into it. I figure It's worth it to have insurance for the first 6 months but after that, the $200 replacement cost isn't worth it. Especially since you can buy a brand new Nexus 4 for $299.
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Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I wouldn't use Facebook as a source for accurate information on a company reliability since i believe they can pretty much edit every post and delete any that don't agree with what they have to say.
I have insurance myself for my s4 and indeed for my son's iphone 4s. but sadly it still cost about $200 with insurance to replace his iphone when he dropped it into the ocean. Apparently there are other companies not affiliated with the carriers who offer better insurance but I haven't looked into it.
You can buy a brand new Nexus 4 for $299, something to think about.
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I agree FB isn't the best place to go. I did google searches and searched for info on XDA but nothing really anywhere that was all that helpful. Really I based my decision off talking to them on the phone. They stated all the things you want to here, like the number of S4 repairs they have done, what their turn around time is, if the stand behind their work, etc.. I know they have multiple employees because I have talked with about 4-5 different people so they are obviously generating enough business to have that many employees. I don't think they are a chop shop, I just think they screwed up and were not honest about it until I pushed them for more info.
The local shop says the ribbon cable was pinched which is causing the LCD to short out. To fix I have to replace the entire LCD screen again. Does anyone have any suggestions for who to send it to? The local AT&T store recommended a place called Digital Doc http://digitaldocrepair.com/. They appear to be a franchise with 6 different locations.
if you broke your screen.the best option is Samsung USA.its under 200 and you still have full warranty.who knows u might get lucky and they repair it free.don't use these stupid small repair shops.they are lookin to rip people off.
I just thought I would throw in my two cents here and suggest you buy the digitizer/lcd/frame as a single assembly on eBay and then do the repair yourself. I've repaired many Samsung phones and I've found that taking the phone apart is very easy but it's really a pain to replace just the digitizer or just the LCD without getting any dust or smudges between them. On top of that you have to make sure the seal is damned near perfect or you'll accumulate dust in there over time. It's better to buy that as a single unit IMHO.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S+IV+Teardown/13947/1
If you search eBay for "Galaxy S4 LCD Frame" a respectable price is in the range of $180 - $200. Be sure to read the description and not rely only on the pictures!
Let me translate for you. You sent your phone to Jim Bob who knows a little about Facebook. Jim Bob also watches Youtube and saw where you can replace the glass on your phone and says to himself "Hey I can do that, and make money doing it. I know how to make a facebook page to advertise". Unfortunately pulling the glass from the LCD is a lot harder than it looks on Youtube. No one showed where those tutorials are using a phone where it was already done once and the second time is much easier since the original adhesive has been removed. So JB screwed it up while doing it in his basement while eating Cheetos. The easy fix was just to buy a new LCD with digitizer that doesn't have your imei number on it. So JB tried to remove your sticker and put it on the new frame but no one told him they use a tamper proof material and adhesive that makes sure it's obvious when it has been removed. And now you have it back.
Unless they specifically told you that certain parts wouldn't be removed, or if removed would only be replaced with OEM parts, I can't see that you have any legit legal grounds to complain, other than poor workmanship.
Sorry for your luck.
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I had a busted SIM Card reader on my old Galaxy S2Skyrocket.
I took it to http://www.bobknowsphones.com/ and they quoted me 60 to replace it. Brought it in and left in 15 minutes with a replaced sim card and a functioning phone.
They are local in Atlanta but get great recommendations and I think they have mail in service for those not local.
Good luck on your repairs.
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I just thought I would throw in my two cents here and suggest you buy the digitizer/lcd/frame as a single assembly on eBay and then do the repair yourself. I've repaired many Samsung phones and I've found that taking the phone apart is very easy but it's really a pain to replace just the digitizer or just the LCD without getting any dust or smudges between them. On top of that you have to make sure the seal is damned near perfect or you'll accumulate dust in there over time. It's better to buy that as a single unit IMHO.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+S+IV+Teardown/13947/1
If you search eBay for "Galaxy S4 LCD Frame" a respectable price is in the range of $180 - $200. Be sure to read the description and not rely only on the pictures!
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This is actually what I am doing. I purchased a frame assembly from Amazon actually (though the seller is on eBay as well and has a 99.5% rating with other 7200 feedbacks) but I will not be doing the work myself. I will have the local repair shop do the work. I am a Sys Admin by trade and have no problems digging in and doing the work myself but considering the phone is so new I would rather have them do it and have the work warrantied. That way if they screw it up it is on them.
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Let me translate for you. You sent your phone to Jim Bob who knows a little about Facebook. Jim Bob also watches Youtube and saw where you can replace the glass on your phone and says to himself "Hey I can do that, and make money doing it. I know how to make a facebook page to advertise". Unfortunately pulling the glass from the LCD is a lot harder than it looks on Youtube. No one showed where those tutorials are using a phone where it was already done once and the second time is much easier since the original adhesive has been removed. So JB screwed it up while doing it in his basement while eating Cheetos. The easy fix was just to buy a new LCD with digitizer that doesn't have your imei number on it. So JB tried to remove your sticker and put it on the new frame but no one told him they use a tamper proof material and adhesive that makes sure it's obvious when it has been removed. And now you have it back.
Unless they specifically told you that certain parts wouldn't be removed, or if removed would only be replaced with OEM parts, I can't see that you have any legit legal grounds to complain, other than poor workmanship.
Sorry for your luck.
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I hear what you are saying but I don't think this is an accurate description of the company I went with. While I am not defending them, they are definitely not some newb in his mom's basement thinking he can do something because he saw it on youtube. The company has two retail locations with about 5-7 employees. They have been in business for over a year and expanded from 400sq ft office to an 1100 sq ft office in a small time frame to deal with all the work they are getting. All of this info I found via a local paper who did a story on them, not from their facebook page. All this information lead me to believe they were actually capable. I do believe that their tech has a video posted on XDA of him removing the front glass on a S4, being one of the firsts to do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbJEpe79PDQ
I did my research. More than just facebook. I think they are a capable repair shop but they are not exactly up front about what they are doing and open with their communication when the eff up. Either way I will never use them again.
This is why I went the Samsung route and gave them $200 bucks, flat. They fixed it in under a week and shipped to and from with 2 day shipping. Professional and perfect condition. They replaced what seems the mid-frame, AMOLED, and digitizer. No dust, scratches, or bubbles.
But they upgraded me to MF3 :crying:
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This is why I went the Samsung route and gave them $200 bucks, flat. They fixed it in under a week and shipped to and from with 2 day shipping. Professional and perfect condition. They replaced what seems the mid-frame, AMOLED, and digitizer. No dust, scratches, or bubbles.
But they upgraded me to MF3 :crying:
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You know this sounds stupid, but it never occurred to me to send it to Samsung. Even when I called AT&T to ask them where I should send it to they never suggested Samsung. Now I feel really stupid. It is my wife's phone and she doesn't root/custom rom so she would care less about the firmware. Pretty effing stupid.
How did you set that up, did you just call 1-888-987-HELP or did you go to a samsung retail location?
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This is why I went the Samsung route and gave them $200 bucks, flat. They fixed it in under a week and shipped to and from with 2 day shipping. Professional and perfect condition. They replaced what seems the mid-frame, AMOLED, and digitizer. No dust, scratches, or bubbles.
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You know this sounds stupid, but it never occurred to me to send it to Samsung. Even when I called AT&T to ask them where I should send it to they never suggested Samsung. Now I feel really stupid. It is my wife's phone and she doesn't root/custom rom so she would care less about the firmware. Pretty effing stupid.
How did you set that up, did you just call 1-888-987-HELP or did you go to a samsung retail location?
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@berdo I called Samsung directly and they gave me the number. Unfortunately I don't have it anymore or I would share it with you. I did want to share how great my experience with Sammy was.
My experience is identical to @pejhod 's. Check around for alternative companies to fix, but all were charging in excess of $250. Finally called Samsung (repair facility in Arlington,TX. They sent me a shipping label, said 5-7 days to repair and 2 days to ship back. They replaced the screen and bezel and shipped it back in a day. All for a flat $200. Very professional and very true to their word. I hope I never damage my screen again, but if so, Samsung is the ONLY route I'd go. I was super impressed by the whole experience.
Get a SquareTrade warranty $6 buck a month and $100 deductible
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@berdo I called Samsung directly and they gave me the number. Unfortunately I don't have it anymore or I would share it with you. I did want to share how great my experience with Sammy was.
My experience is identical to @pejhod 's. Check around for alternative companies to fix, but all were charging in excess of $250. Finally called Samsung (repair facility in Arlington,TX. They sent me a shipping label, said 5-7 days to repair and 2 days to ship back. They replaced the screen and bezel and shipped it back in a day. All for a flat $200. Very professional and very true to their word. I hope I never damage my screen again, but if so, Samsung is the ONLY route I'd go. I was super impressed by the whole experience.
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...I would hope so.....they made the phone lol
Yeah, I never believed in buying insurance floaters of any kind for my cell phones and that may just change after the GS4. Phones just keep getting thinner and easier to crack. This one is the easiest of all phones I've ever owned. Wouldn't be a bad idea, but I didn't have it to start with.
But yeah, Samsung is the quickest, easiest, and most professional. Obviously it hurt to pay the $200, sure wasn't a pleasure handing over my card information, but you gotta do what you gotta do. They even return it is this very cool box that almost has the phone floating between two pieces of paper. Haha. Idk but I thought it was cool. (I guess for $200 they better mail it back in a somewhat decent packaging.)
Mine was sent to Plano, TX.
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Well after reading about the Samsung experience I am really pissed at myself. Live and learn. I would have gladly paid $200 to have samsung fix the phone. However, in the long run the phone is fixed, looks great, and is working great so far. I guess only time will tell if the replacement part will work. But if there are issues again I will be going directly to Samsung.
In the end, RockIt Repair was true to their word that they stand by their work. While I had every issue under the sun, they acknowledged those issues and took responsibility for them. They refunded the original cost of of the repair and reimbursed me for the cost difference in having to buy a new lcd assembly. So in the end I did not have to pay anything out of pocket to get it fixed. Though after 4 weeks and numerous amounts of hours spent dealing with this does not equal $250, I will take it.
Lesson learned.
I have a Warranty dilemma that I thought maybe someone else has experienced.
I had a legitimate warranty issue, called Verizon and they sent out the new phone next day overnight shipping. Currently no exterior damage to the old phone. Literally the day that the new phone is supposed to be coming I dropped my old phone and even though I have never cracked a screen before fate would have it that I crack one the day I am supposed to be exchanging it.
First of all it is a very fine crack in one of the corners of the screen and you almost can’t even see it unless you really look closely or feel it with a fingernail. There is also a small scratch on the corner of the aluminum case now.
Option 1: Should I just send the old phone back anyways and hope that they don’t notice the crack in the screen and scratch on the case? I’ve read on this forum that all they do is see if the phone turns on and then they move on to the next one? Could result in paying the $229 fine for the phone being damaged.
Option 2: Call Verizon tell them what happened send back the phone they sent me and instead do a cracked phone replacement through HTC's website which supposedly does a onetime replacement phone for things like breaking your screen.
Option 3: Keep the new phone without sending back the old phone and hope they dont notice. I actually did this in the past once and they never charged or contacted me about it. Ive heard that they dont really track to see if you turn in the old phone but that was some time ago and I dont know if that is still the case.
Sure would be nice if they had a way to still do a warranty exchange for the legitimate issue while also paying them a lesser amount to pay for the cracked screen but I guess they dont have that option.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
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I have a Warranty dilemma that I thought maybe someone else has experienced.
I had a legitimate warranty issue, called Verizon and they sent out the new phone next day overnight shipping. Currently no exterior damage to the old phone. Literally the day that the new phone is supposed to be coming I dropped my old phone and even though I have never cracked a screen before fate would have it that I crack one the day I am supposed to be exchanging it.
First of all it is a very fine crack in one of the corners of the screen and you almost can’t even see it unless you really look closely or feel it with a fingernail. There is also a small scratch on the corner of the aluminum case now.
Option 1: Should I just send the old phone back anyways and hope that they don’t notice the crack in the screen and scratch on the case? I’ve read on this forum that all they do is see if the phone turns on and then they move on to the next one? Could result in paying the $229 fine for the phone being damaged.
Option 2: Call Verizon tell them what happened send back the phone they sent me and instead do a cracked phone replacement through HTC's website which supposedly does a onetime replacement phone for things like breaking your screen.
Option 3: Keep the new phone without sending back the old phone and hope they dont notice. I actually did this in the past once and they never charged or contacted me about it. Ive heard that they dont really track to see if you turn in the old phone but that was some time ago and I dont know if that is still the case.
Sure would be nice if they had a way to still do a warranty exchange for the legitimate issue while also paying them a lesser amount to pay for the cracked screen but I guess they dont have that option.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
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I've done plenty of warranty exchanges with Verizon. Best bet is to call Verizon and tell them what happened. Send the old one back. This way you don't feel guilty or have to lie about certain things. VZW won't care. Or another option is to just send it back without calling them. I'd advise you to call them though so they can note it in your account. They don't play as fast and loose as they used to. They sent me 2 HTC Thunderbolts and when I called they said I could sell one if I wanted to. It costs them a good amount of money per warranty exchange. That's why there is a $100 deductible now with the $10/mo warranty.
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hey all,
just wanted to share a few notes on my experience with the pixel 3 xl and google support. part cautionary tale, part just feeling bitter.
tl;dr: high defect rate has possibly depleted stock of new devices (that would be set aside specifically for replacements), now only replacing with refurbs? possible 3rd party wireless charging issue?
i purchased my p3xl direct from google. the first one died in about 4 days. it wouldn't turn on and no combinations of buttons would give me even a screen flicker. then a day later, it suddenly came back to life. no explanation, no errors. i factory reset it, set it back up, rooted it, etc...
it died again the next day. i RMA'd it, and the day before my replacement arrived, it just came back on. it was weird and i was feeling paranoid, so i set up the new one and started using it. i kept the original one running and just played around with it, until the last few days before i HAD to send it in. it never once dropped again. i sent it back, keeping the new replacement.
2 months later, my 2nd one is dead. it seems to be the same issue, won't respond to anything. i used the stock charger, tried my partner's pixel 3 charger & cables, connecting it to my laptop, the charger for my old nexus (with a USB-C adapter) -- each for 6 to 10 hours. i'm still holding out a glimmer of hope that it will kick back on long enough for me to pull everything off it. i have a whole list of links to other threads on XDA and reddit with the magic button combo that people used to turn theirs back on, but many people are just getting it replaced.
so.. after a day of panicked research and a spreadsheet full of "button combo", "time held", "button released first", "result" desperation and sadness, i RMA'd it. this time they will only replace it with a refurb device. i escalated this over email, chat, twitter... but i kept getting the same message:
I understand that you're looking for a new device as a replacement. Please be informed that we have a finite number of new devices manufactured, and I'm sorry to inform that we wouldn't be able to send out a new device as a replacement, but rest assured our replacement devices undergo a comprehensive process to ensure a high standard of quality before they are shipped.
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my read on this that they're getting way more returns than they expected... thoughts?
all this said: i've been really loving the p3xl -- my brother has one, my gf has the p3. they love 'em and have had no problems. so yesterday i caved and ordered the replacement (refurb), but i'm pissed that (a) my phone is in perfect condition and i take really good care of it (shout out to whitestone dome, that thing is amazing!), and (b) i feel like i'm out 200$ish that is the diff between a new vs. refurb device and the cost of a new whitestone dome glass.
literally the only diff i can tell between myself, my brother, and my gf is that i have a tylt wireless charger that i drop my phone on when i'm going to bed. works great with my nexus, seemed like it was working fine for the pixel (albeit only slow charging). in my googling, i saw a couple of threads where people complained that a wireless charger had damaged their battery which is what pointed me this direction, but i honestly have no idea if it's really a factor.
so i'm sort of curious about other people's stories... are you running in to the same issues? did the magic button combo work? can you think of any reason why yours died in the first place?
thanks!
I can't comment from a bad experience, but I have ran the gambit of wired chargers through my 3xl but only ever used the pixel dock for wireless, due to my case (otterbox defender) it will only slow charge while the case is on, but I haven't had an issue, not trying to rub this in, just giving you another data point.
I have had mine for months, using it on the Pixel Stand nightly (with a case on). No issues so far.
Honestly, it's a big hit or miss with their "refurbished" devices. I've had multiple replacements ranging with big scratches 1.5 - 2 inches on the display. Buzzing earpieces and ****ty sounding speakers etc. They say their replacements go through a comprehensive check to make sure they're 100% mechanically sound. To me it seems like Google just stuffs in returned devices and ships them off as warranty exchanges. They just hope that the next person that gets it doesn't notice the defect and accepts the rubbish they dish out. But there is some light at the end of the tunnel if you deal with too many replacements. You can get your case escalated and they can refund you the total of the phone as a return 100% and you can get your money back. Then, if you wish, you can order a brand new one and at that point you'll have a brand new warranty and be guaranteed a new device for 2 weeks. I went through a similar fiasco for radio problems and speakers going out, but I have never faced your issue yet. I ended up getting a refund and bought a new Pixel 3 XL when they had the $200 off promotion so that was awesome! Best of luck!
zetsumeikuro said:
Honestly, it's a big hit or miss with their "refurbished" devices. <snip> I ended up getting a refund and bought a new Pixel 3 XL when they had the $200 off promotion so that was awesome! Best of luck!
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Similar situation with me but for constant flashing making the phone unusable for hours at a time. I was 17 days out of purchase and they refused to send me a new device, only a refurb. I could have gotten my money back as you described above but I bought it at the $200 off price and that promotion is expired. So my options were a refurb (they spout the exact same line about testing which is total BS) or spending an extra $200 for a new one. I have the Pixel 3 not the XL. These devices are flawed in a major way. The only thing they can do at this point is give free replacements to those experiencing problems. New and not refurbished. Throw all those away or give them away, they are useless. I wonder what the statistics are on returns. My wife has one since November with not one single issue. I'm on my 5th in the past month or so.
zetsumeikuro said:
Honestly, it's a big hit or miss with their "refurbished" devices. I've had multiple replacements ranging with big scratches 1.5 - 2 inches on the display. Buzzing earpieces and ****ty sounding speakers etc. They say their replacements go through a comprehensive check to make sure they're 100% mechanically sound. To me it seems like Google just stuffs in returned devices and ships them off as warranty exchanges. They just hope that the next person that gets it doesn't notice the defect and accepts the rubbish they dish out. But there is some light at the end of the tunnel if you deal with too many replacements. You can get your case escalated and they can refund you the total of the phone as a return 100% and you can get your money back. Then, if you wish, you can order a brand new one and at that point you'll have a brand new warranty and be guaranteed a new device for 2 weeks. I went through a similar fiasco for radio problems and speakers going out, but I have never faced your issue yet. I ended up getting a refund and bought a new Pixel 3 XL when they had the $200 off promotion so that was awesome! Best of luck!
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wow, that's a great piece of info - thanks! i'll see how the refurb works out, but yeah, mine is in pristine condition, i'm not going to accept a replacement with scratches.
They say their replacements go through a comprehensive check to make sure they're 100% mechanically sound.
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i swear, they pasted that line into EVERY single response i received. it got annoying fast.
bobby janow said:
The only thing they can do at this point is give free replacements to those experiencing problems. New and not refurbished. Throw all those away or give them away, they are useless. I wonder what the statistics are on returns. My wife has one since November with not one single issue. I'm on my 5th in the past month or so.
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i really think that this is why they're only doing refurbs now.. they probably used up all their "set aside for returns"-new devices already. makes me wonder if we're just all recycling each others non-functioning devices at this point..
JaceAlvejetti said:
I can't comment from a bad experience, but I have ran the gambit of wired chargers through my 3xl but only ever used the pixel dock for wireless, due to my case (otterbox defender) it will only slow charge while the case is on, but I haven't had an issue, not trying to rub this in, just giving you another data point.
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good to know. most of the "wireless charging broke my phone" threads do seem to be contained to 3rd party chargers, if the replacement works out, i might grab one of the pixel stands. thx!
williamentropy said:
i really think that this is why they're only doing refurbs now.. they probably used up all their "set aside for returns"-new devices already. makes me wonder if we're just all recycling each others non-functioning devices at this point..
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That's why I wouldn't accept a refurb. It cost me but I will get it back in the end. I had to pay for a new device, wait for it, transfer the info, send back the old piece of crap and wait for my refund. I don't care. I'm not getting some POS refurb when my device was only 17 days old and flashed like a lightning storm in June. So I'm going to test it as best I can in the coming days once I receive the new one. Any sign of anything and I'm outta here. Perhaps for good. It's just not worth it at this point when other devices are better. Used to the Nexus 5 at half the price of other phones, rootable, no problems with apps, stuff like that. Those days are over. Unfortunately.
bobby janow said:
Used to the Nexus 5 at half the price of other phones, rootable, no problems with apps, stuff like that. Those days are over. Unfortunately.
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i know, right? i'm back on my nexus 6 awaiting the replacement... despite the cracked screen, it's still a solid device.
It amazes me how lucky I must have been. Had to get my device from a third party with no chance of returning.
Why is Google quality control so freaking bad?
Plus if you complain on their support forum they just delete your post!