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Everyone in this forum (well there are exceptions) and using HD2 have issues with hard buttons, including myself, while working my Proximity Screen Off app, I thought of a completely new way of navigation for HD2!! How about using combination of sensors??
1) Shake to go back to home
2) If proximity sensor blocked less than a second go Back
3) If proximity sensor blocked less than 2-3 seconds and more than 1 second trigger
menu.
4) If proximity sensor blocked more than 3 seconds launch search
Haven't started on this yet, I need to know if this community really needs an app like this. Also please share your ideas!!!
I think it would be awesome, especially to show off
Might cause problems if the screen accidentally comes on while in your pocket.
Otherwise I like the concept.
Seems like that could have a lot of flaws, because wat if the sensor get blocked by accident while navigating through traffic
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itsme_4ucz said:
Everyone in this forum (well there are exceptions) and using HD2 have issues with hard buttons, including myself, while working my Proximity Screen Off app, I thought of a completely new way of navigation for HD2!! How about using combination of sensors??
1) Shake to go back to home
2) If proximity sensor blocked less than a second go Back
3) If proximity sensor blocked less than 2-3 seconds and more than 1 second trigger
menu.
4) If proximity sensor blocked more than 3 seconds launch search
Haven't started on this yet, I need to know if this community really needs an app like this. Also please share your ideas!!!
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Mmmm i dunno i think the seconds issue is a bit difficult bcz not everyone is able to guess how many seconds passed everytime
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I guess that a navigation based on acceleration values and sensors is a good idea:
I mean say:
1) Shake to go back to home (<--- ur idea excellent)
2) If proximity sensor blocked then trigger menu
3) Positive or negative values of acceleration along Z (vertically) determines going up and down
4) Positive or negative values of acceleration along X (horizontally) determines navigating left or right
I don't know if that can be done and how It's just an idea
Thanks for your effort
I like the shake idea using the g sensor, but the proximity sensor isn't really in an area that is easily accessible with your finger
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mm... interesting idea
but i'm not sure it will be very useful though... for me
I've not had any problems with my hard keys so not sure that this would do it for me.
However I have always thought that albums (photo and music) should go through the pictures/album covers if your device was tilted to the left or right.
On second reading you're not talking about adding this feature to apps are you, just to have some new menu and home ideas!!
is it posible to use gesture on gsensor? like moving your handset in circle to "search", move your phone from right to left to go "back"?
honestly I think this would be impractical and a waste of time.
I like the idea of G Sensor doing things though, like maybe shake to launch an app or an address to map to or something like that.
If you can solve all the technicalities, I believe this would be awesome. I guess the software would have to have a value of:
Locked screen = normal proximity sensor
More than 5 seconds blocked plus angle = call = screen off
On the other hand, what about shake the phone and a bar with soft buttons comes up on the bottom of the screen covering the launcher and not the icons, shake or press a swipe the bar and the bar goes off.
Wish I knew programming.
What about shake phone to wake up?
Not unlock but just wake up as is this is the most used action which involves hardware keys.
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indrema said:
What about shake phone to wake up?
Not unlock but just wake up as is this is the most used action which involves hardware keys.
***sorry about my english***
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so your phone is turning on in your pocket when you walk? not good
i'd say do it, but that way that blocking proximity for a tiny bit (very short, like just swype over with hand)) will bring up menu such as Vol +- (overlayed over any app) and it contains back, menu search etc...any block longer will be overlooked(so it's not doing if u sheild ur phone from sunlight or hide it in school(lol)
for waking up u can already use all buttons so shift them.
Nice idea.
I think gestures on screen with fingers are better.(if it's possible)
Like: Move with 2 fingers from right to left would be the same as a click on the "back button".
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Otherwise... i think there are some Apps who have some of these gestures... There might be problems.. :/
Please work on an app for this. That would be awesome. The proximity app is is so useful too
Or maybe just implement most used or just one or two functions like search, back, menu, etc.
Or even better let it be user defineable.
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Not a bad idea...it certainly would be in invention worthy of the name.
And it would also make our lovely HD2s super marvelous!!!!!.......atleast for showing off!!
App Button Savior has all of it. It is faster than using the proximity.
1. This would surely be usefull if you are in a car and must navigate through the menu/programm.
(button savior icons are too small for this if you are in a car)
usefull for back/forward/start programm like google voice etc etc.
2. Option automatic activate the app if the phone is hooked to micro usb.
I've not been using the S-Pen the way i thought i would. The reason for it is because i often have problems that my palm accidently touched the notification bar or that my hand triggers a gesture set in GMD Gesturecontrol.
So what i'm looking for is a way for the device to register if the s-pen is near the screen and then deactivate gestures or even go full screen so i can't hit the notificationbar.
Has anyone found a App that can do something like that.
I know there are Apps that give a trigger for when the s-pen is detached, but i'm often holding the pen and still use my fingers for pressing buttons, so i'm not looking for that.
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I've not been using the S-Pen the way i thought i would. The reason for it is because i often have problems that my palm accidently touched the notification bar or that my hand triggers a gesture set in GMD Gesturecontrol.
So what i'm looking for is a way for the device to register if the s-pen is near the screen and then deactivate gestures or even go full screen so i can't hit the notificationbar.
Has anyone found a App that can do something like that.
I know there are Apps that give a trigger for when the s-pen is detached, but i'm often holding the pen and still use my fingers for pressing buttons, so i'm not looking for that.
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i thought that the Note 10.1 itself disable finger touchs when the s-pen is near the screen, isn't it @@
I thought so too, however, when holding the pen near the screen gestures still work.
What do you think that is the best type of home button in a smart phone?
golemus said:
What do you think that is the best type of home button in a smart phone?
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It is especially interesting to hear opinions of people that have used many sorts of home buttons.
For long time I thought that I would prefer capacitive home button over physical but I see a few advantages with physical:
- it is a safe spot to rest your thumb without accidentally pressing a capacitive button
- it is a faster way to switch power on from a sleeping phone than trying to find a power button from the side of the phone.
About virtual home key I really don't have experience, but as a prejudicious tought I dislike the fact that it eats pixels from the screen. I really don't see any other good reason for virtual keys than saving costs of capacitive keys. If there is such reasons, please share.
I've used them all. I hate physical buttons, so I use GMD gesture control on my s3.
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gc84245 said:
I've used them all. I hate physical buttons, so I use GMD gesture control on my s3.
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I can see GMD being better on a tablets.
But for the common 4-5" smartphone screen users most if not all functions are usually performed single handedly via the thumb, so something PIE CONTROLS would be a much easier method to execute commands requiring less than an inch of on screen GESTURES.
And since it also displays the time/date and battery life you also don't need to have a status bar take up the precious screen space.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jun.ace.piecontrol
I really like the capacitive home button on the HTC One X, but could also get accustomed to a virtual solution since it's way more flexible.
Especially using pie it seems to be a lot more space saving.
Capacitive, but I can use virtual also if the screen type != Amoled which thankfully is the case with Nexus 4/5. Wouldn't want a burn-in like the gnex.
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I can see GMD being better on a tablets.
But for the common 4-5" smartphone screen users most if not all functions are usually performed single handedly via the thumb, so something PIE CONTROLS would be a much easier method to execute commands requiring less than an inch of on screen GESTURES.
And since it also displays the time/date and battery life you also don't need to have a status bar take up the precious screen space.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jun.ace.piecontrol
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Thanks for the tip. I tried pie controls and it's pretty good, but I think I still prefer GMD. It has more options like turning off the screen or switching between apps. I usually use two hands on the phone anyways, though I could see it being useful if you had to use one hand.
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gc84245 said:
Thanks for the tip. I tried pie controls and it's pretty good, but I think I still prefer GMD. It has more options like turning off the screen or switching between apps. I usually use two hands on the phone anyways, though I could see it being useful if you had to use one hand.
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You can also use PGM2 AKA touch control app to turn screen off by swiping the very bottom of the screen from Left to right or viscera and turning screen on by swiping up from bottom of screen gesture like on BB10 devices or double tapping the screen like on the LG G2.
Pie controls also has recent apps button for switching between open apps.
Only time I use more than 1 finger is for certain games in landscape mode.
Even zooming in/out can be done using an app like:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kiumiu.ca.assistivezoom
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After seeing a lot of comparison videos of the HTC One m8 and the Galaxy S5 I realized one of the big things HTC has is their motion launch gestures. Unfortunately for HTC it is limited to doing just a few things. So since the Galaxy S5 has an OLED screen which is turned "off" when displaying black pixels, I figured I could create something like the motion launch gestures that uses minimal battery.
So I created Knockr an app that allows users with OLED Screen devices, like the Samsung Galaxy S5 and Moto X, to quickly enter an app with gestures without having to turn the screen on.
Gestures include:
Double Tap: Double tap the screen to open any app you choose or unlock the screen
Swipe Up, Down, Left, Right: Users can set each Swipe to open a separate app or unlock the screen
Long Press: Long press the screen to open any app you choose or unlock the screen
Volume Up when in Landscape: Pressing the volume up button when the device is in Landscape will automatically open the camera
I am still working on improving some of the things in Knockr, but wanted to post it on here to get some feedback and suggestions to make it better.
Download Here
**EDIT**
The newest update 2.1 now includes Knocks. Knocks is like LG's Knock Code. You can create multiple Knocks to unlock or open apps.
XDA:DevDB Information
Knockr, App for the Android General
Contributors
Acela1230
Version Information
Status: Beta
Created 2014-05-04
Last Updated 2014-12-01
Going to give it a try with my Galaxy S4 Mini, I hope it's not too harsh on the battery. Nevertheless this application seems like a great idea, Thank you.
EDIT: Seems to work very well. Just a few things I noticed.
-The screen can turn on by a single touch to the screen (it will then display lockscreen)
-The backlight keys turn on after the app is activated once the screen is locked (the keys are only on for a few seconds on my phone anyway, no big deal)
-Is it possible to decrease the delay between when the phone is locked and when the Knockr app is loaded/active?
Acela1230 said:
***FOR OLED SCREENS ONLY***
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You said that this is for screens with OLED yet someone commented checking whether it would work with their S4 Mini. Now I thought that S4's had AMOLED which was different, if I'm mistaken, does this mean that it will work on my S4-19505?
Thanks, it looks brill by the way.
Nandish-
AM-(OLED) your device has an OLED display. It only works with OLED type screens cause they use no power to produce black screens.
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Only one touch and the screen is awake to show the lock pattern on Samsung S4.
What an awesome app! My only recommendation is to take away the one tap to turn on the screen, as the screen can accidentally turn on in your pocket very easily and cause unwanted battery drain.
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Going to give it a try with my Galaxy S4 Mini, I hope it's not too harsh on the battery. Nevertheless this application seems like a great idea, Thank you.
EDIT: Seems to work very well. Just a few things I noticed.
-The screen can turn on by a single touch to the screen (it will then display lockscreen)
-The backlight keys turn on after the app is activated once the screen is locked (the keys are only on for a few seconds on my phone anyway, no big deal)
-Is it possible to decrease the delay between when the phone is locked and when the Knockr app is loaded/active?
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Thanks for the feedback. It shouldn't use much battery especially if you use the power management since you probably wont have your phone turned off to often outside of your pocket during the day and if you do you can just turn it over and still get the same benefit.
I have already uploaded a new version that has removed the single tap action so there aren't any false touches registered. It also made the screen on an option to choose for any of the gestures. It also fixes a bug that cause Knockr to close when the orientation was changed after being pocketed.
Unfortunately I don't think there is a way to load Knockr any faster since I already have it setup to load as fast as possible. The problem is that I have to use a broadcast receiver to receive the screen off and the broadcast takes a little bit of time to be sent out (I'll keep looking for ways to make it faster though).
Really cool app!
Few recommendations:
1. Any way to show clock and notifications every couple of seconds? (Ex 15s)
2. Way to bypass knockr when power button is pressed.
Thanks!
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awesome app
awesome app.
but there is delay while unlocking phone (or performing any action while screen is locked).
i don't know it is because of my s3 or app
but cool idea.
one more suggestion screen should be unlocked after pressing power button.
mind blowing app.
works great.
thanks for this and keep going on.
it is really nice idea.
questions :
can it detect multi finger on screen off? we might get more gesture thts why only.
screen segmentation? means on some part of screen it detects then that gesture recognized.
just some ideas.
Awesome app. Just awesome. I didn't want to install a custom kernel just for this feature and now I don't have to. Working great at the moment. Power button is no use for unlocking but app is working with almost no hitch.
A suggestion for people who use this. Install screen on&off from play store and add that to nova launcher's double tap gesture to lock the screen. Now you can use double tap to both locking and unlocking.
Also, I have to swipe twice to open an app. Can't we do that with one swipe?
Edit: It opens with one swipe but it isn't always working. Needs some work.
Bug
found a bug :
proximity sensor always on for me on stock 4.4.2 Note 2 N7100.
whether i check power management or not.
App works on Galaxy S3, only that the proximity sensor thing for pockets, it isn't very accurate. I kinda cheated to test it, covered my sensor, then swiped left to try to launch camera, and it did. I didn't want my camera to be turned on and heating my phone in my pocket during school
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I don't have a OLED lcd panel but I decided to try it. is it because I don't have a OLED panel that the screen shows black with 2 navigation buttons on it? And if that's the reason is there a way to make it work on TFT panels?
I am having this issue with my Verizon Moto X. Does it need any extra settings?
It installed on Galaxy Nexus (It is having SUPER AMOLED), when I double tap, screen wakes but shows black screen.
Cool app!
I can see navbar when i turn screen off though. And i can press power button and turn device off...
Im using a n7000 running Slimkat
underdog1799 said:
I am having this issue with my Verizon Moto X. Does it need any extra settings?
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Same with Galaxy Nexus
pSyCh¤_O_O said:
Cool app!
I can see navbar when i turn screen off though. And i can press power button and turn device off...
Im using a n7000 running Slimkat
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same for me
does your phone have a OLED screen?
Multi window bug
Acela1230 said:
***FOR OLED SCREENS ONLY***
After seeing a lot of comparison videos of the HTC One m8 and the Galaxy S5 I realized one of the big things HTC has is their motion launch gestures. Unfortunately for HTC it is limited to doing just a few things. So since the Galaxy S5 has an OLED screen which is turned "off" when displaying black pixels, I figured I could create something like the motion launch gestures that uses minimal battery.
So I created Knockr an app that allows users with OLED Screen devices, like the Samsung Galaxy S5 and Moto X, to quickly enter an app with gestures without having to turn the screen on.
Gestures include:
Double Tap: Double tap the screen to open any app you choose or unlock the screen
Swipe Up, Down, Left, Right: Users can set each Swipe to open a separate app or unlock the screen
Long Press: Long press the screen to open any app you choose or unlock the screen
Volume Up when in Landscape: Pressing the volume up button when the device is in Landscape will automatically open the camera
I am still working on improving some of the things in Knockr, but wanted to post it on here to get some feedback and suggestions to make it better.
Download Here
XDA:DevDB Information
Knockr, a App for the Android General
Contributors
Acela1230
Version Information
Status: Beta
Created 2014-05-04
Last Updated 2014-05-04
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Hey! This works very nicely! I'm having no problems so far. However, on my stock 4.4.2 Samsung Note 3 N900W8, I've noticed that if I have Multi Window on (use two apps at the same time), the multi window tab shows on the screen when Knockr becomes active. Specifically, I turn off my screen using the power button, and a second or two later the tab pops up. I don't know if this can be prevented without turning multi window off entirely, but thought I'd bring it up. Great app!
Hey,
Could You please modify the upcoming egde kernel so that the screen won't turn on when the home Button is pressed inside our pockets. It would really improve our battery and omit unwanted pocket photos. LG already has it in all their G series, it's a simple proximity Sensor addon. I am asking cause I would like to enjoy edge Features and therefore planning to stay Stock.
Kind Regards,
Frustrated edge fan
stilkus said:
Hey,
Could You please modify the upcoming egde kernel so that the screen won't turn on when the home Button is pressed inside our pockets. It would really improve our battery and omit unwanted pocket photos. LG already has it in all their G series, it's a simple proximity Sensor addon. I am asking cause I would like to enjoy edge Features and therefore planning to stay Stock.
Kind Regards,
Frustrated edge fan
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While I agree with having a option to wake with the home button or not. Use a pattern or password lock screen. You can omit having a camera icon from any lock screen.
That way if your screen does turn on, the likely hood of taking pictures or pocket calls is very minimal.
I use gravity screen app. Keeps phone off in pocket and auto turns it on when pulling it out. Customisable. Great.
You can modify it to disable home button wake. @dwitherell
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deeznutz1977 said:
You can modify it to disable home button wake. @dwitherell
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I'll Sure try it cause what happened to me today was really frustrating, I had my phone in my pockets and after sometime I felt my legs were burning hot so I quickly brought it out thinking the LiPo was about to explode or something but it turned out to be the phone activated the quick camera shortcut on the fingerprint lock screen and started capturing 4k video which for sure heated the processor up and other compnents as well. that was really annoying.
I tried this Gravity app but still I got unwanted phone wakes, I also looked into Rooting and disabling it, but still that's not what I want. I would like to use the home button normally but deactivate it only when in my pocket with the Proximity sensor.