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Everyone in this forum (well there are exceptions) and using HD2 have issues with hard buttons, including myself, while working my Proximity Screen Off app, I thought of a completely new way of navigation for HD2!! How about using combination of sensors??
1) Shake to go back to home
2) If proximity sensor blocked less than a second go Back
3) If proximity sensor blocked less than 2-3 seconds and more than 1 second trigger
menu.
4) If proximity sensor blocked more than 3 seconds launch search
Haven't started on this yet, I need to know if this community really needs an app like this. Also please share your ideas!!!
I think it would be awesome, especially to show off
Might cause problems if the screen accidentally comes on while in your pocket.
Otherwise I like the concept.
Seems like that could have a lot of flaws, because wat if the sensor get blocked by accident while navigating through traffic
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itsme_4ucz said:
Everyone in this forum (well there are exceptions) and using HD2 have issues with hard buttons, including myself, while working my Proximity Screen Off app, I thought of a completely new way of navigation for HD2!! How about using combination of sensors??
1) Shake to go back to home
2) If proximity sensor blocked less than a second go Back
3) If proximity sensor blocked less than 2-3 seconds and more than 1 second trigger
menu.
4) If proximity sensor blocked more than 3 seconds launch search
Haven't started on this yet, I need to know if this community really needs an app like this. Also please share your ideas!!!
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Mmmm i dunno i think the seconds issue is a bit difficult bcz not everyone is able to guess how many seconds passed everytime
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I guess that a navigation based on acceleration values and sensors is a good idea:
I mean say:
1) Shake to go back to home (<--- ur idea excellent)
2) If proximity sensor blocked then trigger menu
3) Positive or negative values of acceleration along Z (vertically) determines going up and down
4) Positive or negative values of acceleration along X (horizontally) determines navigating left or right
I don't know if that can be done and how It's just an idea
Thanks for your effort
I like the shake idea using the g sensor, but the proximity sensor isn't really in an area that is easily accessible with your finger
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mm... interesting idea
but i'm not sure it will be very useful though... for me
I've not had any problems with my hard keys so not sure that this would do it for me.
However I have always thought that albums (photo and music) should go through the pictures/album covers if your device was tilted to the left or right.
On second reading you're not talking about adding this feature to apps are you, just to have some new menu and home ideas!!
is it posible to use gesture on gsensor? like moving your handset in circle to "search", move your phone from right to left to go "back"?
honestly I think this would be impractical and a waste of time.
I like the idea of G Sensor doing things though, like maybe shake to launch an app or an address to map to or something like that.
If you can solve all the technicalities, I believe this would be awesome. I guess the software would have to have a value of:
Locked screen = normal proximity sensor
More than 5 seconds blocked plus angle = call = screen off
On the other hand, what about shake the phone and a bar with soft buttons comes up on the bottom of the screen covering the launcher and not the icons, shake or press a swipe the bar and the bar goes off.
Wish I knew programming.
What about shake phone to wake up?
Not unlock but just wake up as is this is the most used action which involves hardware keys.
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indrema said:
What about shake phone to wake up?
Not unlock but just wake up as is this is the most used action which involves hardware keys.
***sorry about my english***
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so your phone is turning on in your pocket when you walk? not good
i'd say do it, but that way that blocking proximity for a tiny bit (very short, like just swype over with hand)) will bring up menu such as Vol +- (overlayed over any app) and it contains back, menu search etc...any block longer will be overlooked(so it's not doing if u sheild ur phone from sunlight or hide it in school(lol)
for waking up u can already use all buttons so shift them.
Nice idea.
I think gestures on screen with fingers are better.(if it's possible)
Like: Move with 2 fingers from right to left would be the same as a click on the "back button".
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Otherwise... i think there are some Apps who have some of these gestures... There might be problems.. :/
Please work on an app for this. That would be awesome. The proximity app is is so useful too
Or maybe just implement most used or just one or two functions like search, back, menu, etc.
Or even better let it be user defineable.
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Not a bad idea...it certainly would be in invention worthy of the name.
And it would also make our lovely HD2s super marvelous!!!!!.......atleast for showing off!!
App Button Savior has all of it. It is faster than using the proximity.
1. This would surely be usefull if you are in a car and must navigate through the menu/programm.
(button savior icons are too small for this if you are in a car)
usefull for back/forward/start programm like google voice etc etc.
2. Option automatic activate the app if the phone is hooked to micro usb.
According to a tweet from HTC (https://twitter.com/htc/status/461511570959663104), you're supposed to be able to double tap the screen while it is sleeping in order to wake the device.
This doesn't work for me unless I do it really hard or have it in my hand. Anyone have the same experience? Any setting I need to change? Maybe it's my ROM? (Skyfall)
Are you using enough of your finger to tap it?
On mine I have to almost tap it with the full pad of the end of my finger. I can't just double-tap with the tip of my finger.
Yeah, that's never worked for me either. It seems like the sensor only gets activated once I pick it up.
Yeah someone in marketing was misinformed. Unless you're using a custom kernel, you need to move the device first to get it to wake from a tap or swipe
Thanks for the feedback. I ask because someone tweeted @ me: "Bring your unit back to the carrier you purchased it from. It's worked fine for us with no issue at all."
For me, I tap the screen once and then double tap it right after. Seems to do the job.
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Settings, display and gestures, g sensor calibration. Calibrate it poorly intentionally slanted against a book or whatnot. It thinks your device is tilted when it is laying down.
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well really its like this ==> Settings/Display & gestures/Motion Launch Gestures/HELP =(look (close its really there =] ) and then under Double tap it reads "Pick up the phone in portrait orientation and double tap to wake " but if I really double tap mine while its laying flatly screen up with some force it wakes just make sure you really give it good tapping.
Other than that test to see if picking it first portrait orientation and give it a few taps and see if it wakes.
I just saw the post above mine that is a great answer/work around. I like that kind of thinking.
wtoj34 said:
Settings, display and gestures, g sensor calibration. Calibrate it poorly intentionally slanted against a book or whatnot. It thinks your device is tilted when it is laying down.
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I was going to reply with this exact method until I saw that you did so.
This works, and resolves the issue completely. now a light double tap even turns on the screen while it is laying flat.
It's a pretty simple concept. Unlike the LG G2, this phone came with some more smarts to save battery. The G2 device is ALWAYS active to receive phone taps, thus using more battery. The M8 device only once the phone is in motion it turns on the sensor to recieve any kind of double tap, thus saving battery! Pretty nice IMO and smart. Motion control window says itself you need to pick up device then double tap to activate.
For people who want to bypass this you can:
A. Tap the phone hard while on a desk thus causing the phone to move around waking up the motion sensor to activate double tap.
B. Give the G Sensor setting a bad setting so when device is laid flat on a surface the phone thinks it's not flat thus activating the double tap feature all the time thus using more battery.
So either love the feature for what it is or don't and us more battery.
The M8 double-tap to wake requires you to pick up the phone. The double-tap motion is not enough. If you double tap it while flat on a table it may work but usually it does not or very inconsistent.. Lift it and it will always work.
What's happening is when you move or pick up the phone the proximity sensor is activated, allowing the double-tap function to work, but after a few seconds of leaving it on the table, the sensor will shut off until it is disturbed again.
Orch4rd said:
What's happening is when you move or pick up the phone the proximity sensor is activated, allowing the double-tap function to work, but after a few seconds of leaving it on the table, the sensor will shut off until it is disturbed again.
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Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?
berndblb said:
Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?
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Interesting!
Actually I notice what's also keeping the double-tap function to work is the light senor, regardless the phone's position.
The sensor is located left of the front camera; try covering it up and see if you can double-tap to wake your phone
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Interesting!
Actually I notice what's also keeping the double-tap function to work is the light senor, regardless the phone's position.
The sensor is located left of the front camera; try covering it up and see if you can double-tap to wake your phone
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Just tried it: Yes I can
No.. You definitely can't. Either you're not covering the sensor or you're not using a Verizon m8.
Confirmed.. Cover sensor, DT2W doesn't work.
berndblb said:
Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?
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Hey how are things ?
No idea if supported on this device but wouldn't Swipe to Wake (Up) be better solution to Double Tap?
PS Need you over on Nexus 6P.
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Hey how are things ?
No idea if supported on this device but wouldn't Swipe to Wake (Up) be better solution to Double Tap?
PS Need you over on Nexus 6P.
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Hey there. Long time no see. Wish i could afford the 6P... And i love the M8. Should be good for another year.
After seeing a lot of comparison videos of the HTC One m8 and the Galaxy S5 I realized one of the big things HTC has is their motion launch gestures. Unfortunately for HTC it is limited to doing just a few things. So since the Galaxy S5 has an OLED screen which is turned "off" when displaying black pixels, I figured I could create something like the motion launch gestures that uses minimal battery.
So I created Knockr an app that allows users with OLED Screen devices, like the Samsung Galaxy S5 and Moto X, to quickly enter an app with gestures without having to turn the screen on.
Gestures include:
Double Tap: Double tap the screen to open any app you choose or unlock the screen
Swipe Up, Down, Left, Right: Users can set each Swipe to open a separate app or unlock the screen
Long Press: Long press the screen to open any app you choose or unlock the screen
Volume Up when in Landscape: Pressing the volume up button when the device is in Landscape will automatically open the camera
I am still working on improving some of the things in Knockr, but wanted to post it on here to get some feedback and suggestions to make it better.
Download Here
**EDIT**
The newest update 2.1 now includes Knocks. Knocks is like LG's Knock Code. You can create multiple Knocks to unlock or open apps.
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Knockr, App for the Android General
Contributors
Acela1230
Version Information
Status: Beta
Created 2014-05-04
Last Updated 2014-12-01
Going to give it a try with my Galaxy S4 Mini, I hope it's not too harsh on the battery. Nevertheless this application seems like a great idea, Thank you.
EDIT: Seems to work very well. Just a few things I noticed.
-The screen can turn on by a single touch to the screen (it will then display lockscreen)
-The backlight keys turn on after the app is activated once the screen is locked (the keys are only on for a few seconds on my phone anyway, no big deal)
-Is it possible to decrease the delay between when the phone is locked and when the Knockr app is loaded/active?
Acela1230 said:
***FOR OLED SCREENS ONLY***
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You said that this is for screens with OLED yet someone commented checking whether it would work with their S4 Mini. Now I thought that S4's had AMOLED which was different, if I'm mistaken, does this mean that it will work on my S4-19505?
Thanks, it looks brill by the way.
Nandish-
AM-(OLED) your device has an OLED display. It only works with OLED type screens cause they use no power to produce black screens.
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Only one touch and the screen is awake to show the lock pattern on Samsung S4.
What an awesome app! My only recommendation is to take away the one tap to turn on the screen, as the screen can accidentally turn on in your pocket very easily and cause unwanted battery drain.
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Going to give it a try with my Galaxy S4 Mini, I hope it's not too harsh on the battery. Nevertheless this application seems like a great idea, Thank you.
EDIT: Seems to work very well. Just a few things I noticed.
-The screen can turn on by a single touch to the screen (it will then display lockscreen)
-The backlight keys turn on after the app is activated once the screen is locked (the keys are only on for a few seconds on my phone anyway, no big deal)
-Is it possible to decrease the delay between when the phone is locked and when the Knockr app is loaded/active?
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Thanks for the feedback. It shouldn't use much battery especially if you use the power management since you probably wont have your phone turned off to often outside of your pocket during the day and if you do you can just turn it over and still get the same benefit.
I have already uploaded a new version that has removed the single tap action so there aren't any false touches registered. It also made the screen on an option to choose for any of the gestures. It also fixes a bug that cause Knockr to close when the orientation was changed after being pocketed.
Unfortunately I don't think there is a way to load Knockr any faster since I already have it setup to load as fast as possible. The problem is that I have to use a broadcast receiver to receive the screen off and the broadcast takes a little bit of time to be sent out (I'll keep looking for ways to make it faster though).
Really cool app!
Few recommendations:
1. Any way to show clock and notifications every couple of seconds? (Ex 15s)
2. Way to bypass knockr when power button is pressed.
Thanks!
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awesome app
awesome app.
but there is delay while unlocking phone (or performing any action while screen is locked).
i don't know it is because of my s3 or app
but cool idea.
one more suggestion screen should be unlocked after pressing power button.
mind blowing app.
works great.
thanks for this and keep going on.
it is really nice idea.
questions :
can it detect multi finger on screen off? we might get more gesture thts why only.
screen segmentation? means on some part of screen it detects then that gesture recognized.
just some ideas.
Awesome app. Just awesome. I didn't want to install a custom kernel just for this feature and now I don't have to. Working great at the moment. Power button is no use for unlocking but app is working with almost no hitch.
A suggestion for people who use this. Install screen on&off from play store and add that to nova launcher's double tap gesture to lock the screen. Now you can use double tap to both locking and unlocking.
Also, I have to swipe twice to open an app. Can't we do that with one swipe?
Edit: It opens with one swipe but it isn't always working. Needs some work.
Bug
found a bug :
proximity sensor always on for me on stock 4.4.2 Note 2 N7100.
whether i check power management or not.
App works on Galaxy S3, only that the proximity sensor thing for pockets, it isn't very accurate. I kinda cheated to test it, covered my sensor, then swiped left to try to launch camera, and it did. I didn't want my camera to be turned on and heating my phone in my pocket during school
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I don't have a OLED lcd panel but I decided to try it. is it because I don't have a OLED panel that the screen shows black with 2 navigation buttons on it? And if that's the reason is there a way to make it work on TFT panels?
I am having this issue with my Verizon Moto X. Does it need any extra settings?
It installed on Galaxy Nexus (It is having SUPER AMOLED), when I double tap, screen wakes but shows black screen.
Cool app!
I can see navbar when i turn screen off though. And i can press power button and turn device off...
Im using a n7000 running Slimkat
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I am having this issue with my Verizon Moto X. Does it need any extra settings?
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Same with Galaxy Nexus
pSyCh¤_O_O said:
Cool app!
I can see navbar when i turn screen off though. And i can press power button and turn device off...
Im using a n7000 running Slimkat
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same for me
does your phone have a OLED screen?
Multi window bug
Acela1230 said:
***FOR OLED SCREENS ONLY***
After seeing a lot of comparison videos of the HTC One m8 and the Galaxy S5 I realized one of the big things HTC has is their motion launch gestures. Unfortunately for HTC it is limited to doing just a few things. So since the Galaxy S5 has an OLED screen which is turned "off" when displaying black pixels, I figured I could create something like the motion launch gestures that uses minimal battery.
So I created Knockr an app that allows users with OLED Screen devices, like the Samsung Galaxy S5 and Moto X, to quickly enter an app with gestures without having to turn the screen on.
Gestures include:
Double Tap: Double tap the screen to open any app you choose or unlock the screen
Swipe Up, Down, Left, Right: Users can set each Swipe to open a separate app or unlock the screen
Long Press: Long press the screen to open any app you choose or unlock the screen
Volume Up when in Landscape: Pressing the volume up button when the device is in Landscape will automatically open the camera
I am still working on improving some of the things in Knockr, but wanted to post it on here to get some feedback and suggestions to make it better.
Download Here
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Knockr, a App for the Android General
Contributors
Acela1230
Version Information
Status: Beta
Created 2014-05-04
Last Updated 2014-05-04
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Hey! This works very nicely! I'm having no problems so far. However, on my stock 4.4.2 Samsung Note 3 N900W8, I've noticed that if I have Multi Window on (use two apps at the same time), the multi window tab shows on the screen when Knockr becomes active. Specifically, I turn off my screen using the power button, and a second or two later the tab pops up. I don't know if this can be prevented without turning multi window off entirely, but thought I'd bring it up. Great app!
I have just a simple question to other users of this (otherwise nice) phone: I have the screen lock set up the standard way (no pin or anything), I also use the display doube-tap wake-up gesture (I found it quite useful for the phone with symmetrical front side). What happens is, that if I have my phone in the pocket, display facing the leg, the phone sometimes wakes up itself, runs some application or make a phone call to somebody from my quick dial list. If I position it facing outside of the pocket (which is quite insecure for the glass), it does not happen. The weird thing is, that if I switch off the double-tap feature, it does not solve the problem... The phone is with stock ROM 5.0.2-01003, no root (unfortunately). Does this happen also to anybody else, or just me?
P.S.: I wonder, why there's no such simple feature like "solid phone display lock" when the proximity sensor is covered... Possibly, somebody will implement it in a custom ROM (I hope ).
I don't have an elegant solution for you, but I'll pipe in that this has happened to me several times. I have a suspicion that the power button is being hit in the pocket- a problem which is not unique to this device.
I'm using Nova launcher with double-tap set to (PIN) lock the device, and this pretty much solves the problem, but does add extra hassle if you don't care about the security.
same happens to me on my 5.5 but i have gesture lock, so th ephone only start dialing in emergency dialer...only one solution is to insert the phone to the pocket with back cover facing the leg.
I use pattern lock but I was facing the same issues as the others (emergency dialing and camera activation). I've tried several apps from playstore and the best results are with Pocket Screen Lock (com.goldenpie.psl). The screen cannot be activated with the double tap nor with the power button when the proximity sensor is covered.
One other thing you are overlooking is to position the phone upside down in your pocket. Understandable not to have the glass facing outward, but you can put the phone in 'up-side down' and turn on reversible screen . That should prevent the power button from being inadvertently triggered in my experience.
I've had the same issue, but only with this one pair of jeans, so it probably depends on the cloth.
FYI, if you're rooted, the Gravitybox module for Xposed has a setting under Power Tweaks called "Proximity wake-up" which does exactly what you want in terms of preventing wake ups when the proximity sensor is covered. I've only just turned it on, but so far it seems to be working well.
Actually it seems that this has been fixed in the latest update for 6039. The display cannot be unlocked by the gesture anymore if the sensor is covered. All other apps have conflict with this (at least for me). Which in turn requires the power button to be explicitly pressed in order the display to be activated. Even if it's not in my pocket anymore.
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Actually it seems that this has been fixed in the latest update for 6039. The display cannot be unlocked by the gesture anymore if the sensor is covered. All other apps have conflict with this (at least for me). Which in turn requires the power button to be explicitly pressed in order the display to be activated. Even if it's not in my pocket anymore.
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Right you are on both counts. I'll test further before posting next time. Thanks for the correction.
here's a small thing I have seen on many phones that have come out in the past year or so that I was taking for granted would exist on the s7, double tapping on the screen to wake it and view your notifications.
its one of the smallest, yet most useful (I feel), little tricks that will save tons of time.
I was hoping it'd be in the "experimental" features the galaxy labs have to offer but nada.
any ideas about getting it on there and/or a way to feed this back to samsung while they still have time to implement this?
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"double tapping on the screen to wake it and view your notifications."
Hi
since 7.0 : you can directly go to any of the lock screen, - shown by : AOD - notifications, by clicking on any.
but if AOD is disabled, than there is no way to see them, SO a Xperia z3 like double tap to wake would be appricated
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since 7.0 : you can directly go to any of the lock screen, - shown by : AOD - notifications, by clicking on any.
but if AOD is disabled, than there is no way to see them, SO a Xperia z3 like double tap to wake would be appricated
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you mean its implemented in nougat so we're waiting for it?
it'd be great if we didn't have to have AOD to get that considering how simple and awesome of a feature it is...
kostas90 said:
you mean its implemented in nougat so we're waiting for it?
it'd be great if we didn't have to have AOD to get that considering how simple and awesome of a feature it is...
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Lol must be. Lg man. It kills me that this is not on other devices yet. The one most used feature yet not on any devices but lg.
Owed loads of lgs. Still got my orig unrefirbed g4 no bootloop over a year now
TheMadScientist420 said:
Lol must be. Lg man. It kills me that this is not on other devices yet. The one most used feature yet not on any devices but lg.
Owed loads of lgs. Still got my orig unrefirbed g4 no bootloop over a year now
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Its on other devices as well. Samsung doesn't really have it because they have physical button where others don't. But yeah, they all should have it
having physical button solves screen turn on comfortability so, why we need double tap? it's additional drain for battery
N0MA said:
having physical button solves screen turn on comfortability so, why we need double tap? it's additional drain for battery
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It doesn't even use 1% battery in a whole battery cycle unlike aod!
Fullmetal Jun said:
It doesn't even use 1% battery in a whole battery cycle unlike aod!
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physical button uses 0%
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physical button uses 0%
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Seriously:laugh: I said less than 1% to not say 0% and for me, Double Tap is way more convenient than having to press a home button. And u could always turn double tap feature off if u don't like it, i.e, if there was ever a double tap feature!
A 'touch fingerprint button' to wake up & unlock the screen like other Androids would also be great.
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Seriously:laugh: I said less than 1% to not say 0% and for me, Double Tap is way more convenient than having to press a home button. And u could always turn double tap feature off if u don't like it, i.e, if there was ever a double tap feature!
A 'touch fingerprint button' to wake up & unlock the screen like other Androids would also be great.
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being s7's button physical, it's not able to unlock device from deep sleep, at least samsung won't include it if it's even possible and having 2tap2wake will be nonsense at this point... well i dont say it's bad feature, but i just try to explain that Sammy won't include it until we got rear mounted half-physical sensor
The KnockOn feature that LG has would never be nonsense on any phone. It is more convenient than waking with the home button. With the button you have to push a button in a specific place on the phone. With KnockOn you quickly double tap anywhere on the screen.
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I love LG's double tap unlock, it is most useful especially during one hand operation with these humongous 5.5in phones. It eliminates fear of dropping phone trying to reach home or power button with 1hand.