I have just a simple question to other users of this (otherwise nice) phone: I have the screen lock set up the standard way (no pin or anything), I also use the display doube-tap wake-up gesture (I found it quite useful for the phone with symmetrical front side). What happens is, that if I have my phone in the pocket, display facing the leg, the phone sometimes wakes up itself, runs some application or make a phone call to somebody from my quick dial list. If I position it facing outside of the pocket (which is quite insecure for the glass), it does not happen. The weird thing is, that if I switch off the double-tap feature, it does not solve the problem... The phone is with stock ROM 5.0.2-01003, no root (unfortunately). Does this happen also to anybody else, or just me?
P.S.: I wonder, why there's no such simple feature like "solid phone display lock" when the proximity sensor is covered... Possibly, somebody will implement it in a custom ROM (I hope ).
I don't have an elegant solution for you, but I'll pipe in that this has happened to me several times. I have a suspicion that the power button is being hit in the pocket- a problem which is not unique to this device.
I'm using Nova launcher with double-tap set to (PIN) lock the device, and this pretty much solves the problem, but does add extra hassle if you don't care about the security.
same happens to me on my 5.5 but i have gesture lock, so th ephone only start dialing in emergency dialer...only one solution is to insert the phone to the pocket with back cover facing the leg.
I use pattern lock but I was facing the same issues as the others (emergency dialing and camera activation). I've tried several apps from playstore and the best results are with Pocket Screen Lock (com.goldenpie.psl). The screen cannot be activated with the double tap nor with the power button when the proximity sensor is covered.
One other thing you are overlooking is to position the phone upside down in your pocket. Understandable not to have the glass facing outward, but you can put the phone in 'up-side down' and turn on reversible screen . That should prevent the power button from being inadvertently triggered in my experience.
I've had the same issue, but only with this one pair of jeans, so it probably depends on the cloth.
FYI, if you're rooted, the Gravitybox module for Xposed has a setting under Power Tweaks called "Proximity wake-up" which does exactly what you want in terms of preventing wake ups when the proximity sensor is covered. I've only just turned it on, but so far it seems to be working well.
Actually it seems that this has been fixed in the latest update for 6039. The display cannot be unlocked by the gesture anymore if the sensor is covered. All other apps have conflict with this (at least for me). Which in turn requires the power button to be explicitly pressed in order the display to be activated. Even if it's not in my pocket anymore.
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Actually it seems that this has been fixed in the latest update for 6039. The display cannot be unlocked by the gesture anymore if the sensor is covered. All other apps have conflict with this (at least for me). Which in turn requires the power button to be explicitly pressed in order the display to be activated. Even if it's not in my pocket anymore.
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Right you are on both counts. I'll test further before posting next time. Thanks for the correction.
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I found Tedd's Droid Tools today. It has two features:
1) offers an alternative way to answer the phone when it is locked (use camera button or a long tap screen button)
2) In-Call Screen Guard
Quote from the developer:
I wrote this for my wife whose hair messes with the proximity sensor that shuts offyour screen during calls causing accidental hangups, mutes, etc. About 3 seconds after answering a call (or starting a new one) a screen will pop up over the normal in call screen which has a button in the center you can long press to exit out with. When the screen goes dark, the screen guard will restart as long as you are still in a call.
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There is an issue with the current version causing the screen lock to display right after the alternate answer screen appears. For those who have an issue with the slide/stretch to answer on your Backflip I tried this out and it answered every time (about ten tests). I had to hit the menu key and then either the camera key or the on-screen button the app adds.
The extra protective screen may be useful for those who have a problem with the proximity sensor not working as designed for you. The developer mentions that his wife's hair gives the one on her phone fits.
perfect on my xperia... even if you have it closed it's autolaunched :S works perfect although it's not replacing the sony ericsson call screen but adding some buttons
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perfect on my xperia... even if you have it closed it's autolaunched :S works perfect although it's not replacing the sony ericsson call screen but adding some buttons
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Yeah - it presents it's option as an overlay to the stock answer screen.
On your phone does it cause the screen lock (not the pattern lock or pin lock) to pop up?
marvin02 said:
Yeah - it presents it's option as an overlay to the stock answer screen.
On your phone does it cause the screen lock (not the pattern lock or pin lock) to pop up?
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yeap, like a charm! i have to long press the button on the middle
I found something called 'Tedd's Answer Call Tool - Remixed!' installed on my phone.
I didn't install knowingly and now I cant find how to uninstall it.
Any help would be appreciated.
Everyone in this forum (well there are exceptions) and using HD2 have issues with hard buttons, including myself, while working my Proximity Screen Off app, I thought of a completely new way of navigation for HD2!! How about using combination of sensors??
1) Shake to go back to home
2) If proximity sensor blocked less than a second go Back
3) If proximity sensor blocked less than 2-3 seconds and more than 1 second trigger
menu.
4) If proximity sensor blocked more than 3 seconds launch search
Haven't started on this yet, I need to know if this community really needs an app like this. Also please share your ideas!!!
I think it would be awesome, especially to show off
Might cause problems if the screen accidentally comes on while in your pocket.
Otherwise I like the concept.
Seems like that could have a lot of flaws, because wat if the sensor get blocked by accident while navigating through traffic
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Everyone in this forum (well there are exceptions) and using HD2 have issues with hard buttons, including myself, while working my Proximity Screen Off app, I thought of a completely new way of navigation for HD2!! How about using combination of sensors??
1) Shake to go back to home
2) If proximity sensor blocked less than a second go Back
3) If proximity sensor blocked less than 2-3 seconds and more than 1 second trigger
menu.
4) If proximity sensor blocked more than 3 seconds launch search
Haven't started on this yet, I need to know if this community really needs an app like this. Also please share your ideas!!!
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Mmmm i dunno i think the seconds issue is a bit difficult bcz not everyone is able to guess how many seconds passed everytime
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I guess that a navigation based on acceleration values and sensors is a good idea:
I mean say:
1) Shake to go back to home (<--- ur idea excellent)
2) If proximity sensor blocked then trigger menu
3) Positive or negative values of acceleration along Z (vertically) determines going up and down
4) Positive or negative values of acceleration along X (horizontally) determines navigating left or right
I don't know if that can be done and how It's just an idea
Thanks for your effort
I like the shake idea using the g sensor, but the proximity sensor isn't really in an area that is easily accessible with your finger
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mm... interesting idea
but i'm not sure it will be very useful though... for me
I've not had any problems with my hard keys so not sure that this would do it for me.
However I have always thought that albums (photo and music) should go through the pictures/album covers if your device was tilted to the left or right.
On second reading you're not talking about adding this feature to apps are you, just to have some new menu and home ideas!!
is it posible to use gesture on gsensor? like moving your handset in circle to "search", move your phone from right to left to go "back"?
honestly I think this would be impractical and a waste of time.
I like the idea of G Sensor doing things though, like maybe shake to launch an app or an address to map to or something like that.
If you can solve all the technicalities, I believe this would be awesome. I guess the software would have to have a value of:
Locked screen = normal proximity sensor
More than 5 seconds blocked plus angle = call = screen off
On the other hand, what about shake the phone and a bar with soft buttons comes up on the bottom of the screen covering the launcher and not the icons, shake or press a swipe the bar and the bar goes off.
Wish I knew programming.
What about shake phone to wake up?
Not unlock but just wake up as is this is the most used action which involves hardware keys.
***sorry about my english***
indrema said:
What about shake phone to wake up?
Not unlock but just wake up as is this is the most used action which involves hardware keys.
***sorry about my english***
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so your phone is turning on in your pocket when you walk? not good
i'd say do it, but that way that blocking proximity for a tiny bit (very short, like just swype over with hand)) will bring up menu such as Vol +- (overlayed over any app) and it contains back, menu search etc...any block longer will be overlooked(so it's not doing if u sheild ur phone from sunlight or hide it in school(lol)
for waking up u can already use all buttons so shift them.
Nice idea.
I think gestures on screen with fingers are better.(if it's possible)
Like: Move with 2 fingers from right to left would be the same as a click on the "back button".
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Otherwise... i think there are some Apps who have some of these gestures... There might be problems.. :/
Please work on an app for this. That would be awesome. The proximity app is is so useful too
Or maybe just implement most used or just one or two functions like search, back, menu, etc.
Or even better let it be user defineable.
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Not a bad idea...it certainly would be in invention worthy of the name.
And it would also make our lovely HD2s super marvelous!!!!!.......atleast for showing off!!
App Button Savior has all of it. It is faster than using the proximity.
1. This would surely be usefull if you are in a car and must navigate through the menu/programm.
(button savior icons are too small for this if you are in a car)
usefull for back/forward/start programm like google voice etc etc.
2. Option automatic activate the app if the phone is hooked to micro usb.
Alright so my power button seems to be getting a little flaky even with trackball wake so I spent the day thinking about a way to lock the phone without pressing the power button.
I looked into remapping the trackball click (seems like a lot of work) and tried remapping the search button to power off (with no success).
Then after sitting awhile I remembered this app I saw in the HD2 forums called proximity screen off. I thought it would only work for the HD2 but Im so glad I gave it a shot because it works FLAWLESSLY.
I just wanted to share this with everyone who is looking to save whats left of their power button!
All credit of course goes to itsme_4ucz.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876945&highlight=proximity
In case your wondering the proximity sensor if you are looking a the screen is to the top left of the phone.
The settings are pretty self explanatory. I think you have to check Enable Device Admin and you should check disable in landscape, disable during call, and check disable accidental lock with a 1 second timeout (meaning if you hold your finger/hand/whatever over the sensor for more than 1 second the screen wont lock). Those are just my settings though other settings might work better for you.
Have fun guys!
good find i like it
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quite useful
Thanks! Great find. I found "Tap Tap App" which also does the same thing but by tapping the proximity sensor. Works really well so far so good.
Do you think keeping the proximity sensor on all the time is bad for the sensor?
I've kept the E8's so called Motion Launch Gestures feature turned on.
The screen doesn't wake up 3 out of 10 times of tapping on it.
Is this a bug or am I missing something?
The way I do is, pick the phone up in portrait position and then tap on the screen.
This may be a very minor one, but it irritates when you assume that the phone would wake up on the tap and it doesn't, where you'll have to end up using the power button for the same.
Please let me know your experience or if you've got a few tips to get around it!
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I've kept the E8's so called Motion Launch Gestures feature turned on.
The screen doesn't wake up 3 out of 10 times of tapping on it.
Is this a bug or am I missing something?
The way I do is, pick the phone up in portrait position and then tap on the screen.
This may be a very minor one, but it irritates when you assume that the phone would wake up on the tap and it doesn't, where you'll have to end up using the power button for the same.
Please let me know your experience or if you've got a few tips to get around it!
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It did happen to me a few times in the beginning, but not anymore. The catch here is that the gyroscope phone has to detect a movement for the double tap to work. So, if it's lifted from a table or so with very minute change in the axis,the motion sensors won't work. Otherwise it would work just fine.
My usage of the dot view made it easier, because double tapping with the case open and folded back always produced a movement/vibration. Now even without the dot view, most of the times, I'm able to get it right. It's just about getting used to it I guess. Just lift your device from any table or so, and slightly tilt it towards yourself. That is enough to trigger the motion launch gestures.
Thanks! I'll give that a try!
I don't know, maybe it's me, but i always feel like there is a moment of frustration when i have to turn the device on.
On my mate 9 I literally picked up the device and easily touched the fingerprint sensor which is placed away from anywhere else and obvious to find. Bang, it's on. On this device OMG it's so freaking frustrating, whether I have e a case or not. I'm always fiddling around trying to find it.
If i want to use face or Iris, it's two steps. First I have elto find the power button and then switch it on, then stuff this thing in front of my face. Also annoying, never that quick and obtrusive if you are with other people, . If I'm in the car at a red light, and there's any movement it often takes a few seconds. Really annoying.
If I'm in a meeting and I want to quickly check something i have to find the power button and them use a pin or pattern. Again, front fingerprint sensor is better for that.
The always on would be better served if it could double tap to wake, then when on a table at least i could check for messages without ping up the phone.
All in all I'm finding it frustrating. Or is it just me.
I agree completely. I'm forever forgetting that picking up the device doesn't just turn it on and that I have to press the button. Does anyone know of an easier way to wake the device so all I have to do is tap the fingerprint sensor?
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I don't know, maybe it's me, but i always feel like there is a moment of frustration when i have to turn the device on.
On my mate 9 I literally picked up the device and easily touched the fingerprint sensor which is placed away from anywhere else and obvious to find. Bang, it's on. On this device OMG it's so freaking frustrating, whether I have e a case or not. I'm always fiddling around trying to find it.
If i want to use face or Iris, it's two steps. First I have elto find the power button and then switch it on, then stuff this thing in front of my face. Also annoying, never that quick and obtrusive if you are with other people, . If I'm in the car at a red light, and there's any movement it often takes a few seconds. Really annoying.
If I'm in a meeting and I want to quickly check something i have to find the power button and them use a pin or pattern. Again, front fingerprint sensor is better for that.
The always on would be better served if it could double tap to wake, then when on a table at least i could check for messages without ping up the phone.
All in all I'm finding it frustrating. Or is it just me.
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One thing I did find is that if you set up the fingerprint scanner, that touching the fingerprint scanner immediately unlocks and turns on the device.
Iris scanner not a problem for me at all, I set the virtual home button force press to activate it straight away, power button or home button doubletap lets me see my notifications without activating the iris scanner. I always hold my phone in the angle that the iris scanner works in, so it usually takes less than one second to go from screen off to home screen, with the iris scanner and force-touch combo. But everyone has different ways of using their devices, so a non-issue for me might be a big issue for someone else
I turned off the always on display. Less frustrating!
Is there a way to make power go on when you pick k up the device?
When AOD is on you can just double tap the home button to wake the device. Just an fyi
ekerbuddyeker said:
I don't know, maybe it's me, but i always feel like there is a moment of frustration when i have to turn the device on.
On my mate 9 I literally picked up the device and easily touched the fingerprint sensor which is placed away from anywhere else and obvious to find. Bang, it's on. On this device OMG it's so freaking frustrating, whether I have e a case or not. I'm always fiddling around trying to find it.
If i want to use face or Iris, it's two steps. First I have elto find the power button and then switch it on, then stuff this thing in front of my face. Also annoying, never that quick and obtrusive if you are with other people, . If I'm in the car at a red light, and there's any movement it often takes a few seconds. Really annoying.
If I'm in a meeting and I want to quickly check something i have to find the power button and them use a pin or pattern. Again, front fingerprint sensor is better for that.
The always on would be better served if it could double tap to wake, then when on a table at least i could check for messages without ping up the phone.
All in all I'm finding it frustrating. Or is it just me.
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Yep it is just you, you a a special kind.
Iris scanner works for me driving in the dark when phone is mounted on my magnetic windshield mount. Took a while to get the placement right tho but rest assured-iris is wonderful it just takes trial and error
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For the first few hours I was regretting upgrading. Now I could never go back. It just takes getting used to.
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The issue for me with the read scanner is the stupid placement. i constantly have to tap it twice because to hit it the first time i have to kinda slide my finger across the back to find it, then lift off and press down again to activate it. It would be a lot better if i didnt need to lift and press again, then if it didnt read it when i slide my finger over it into position (because it has tried to read it before my finger was properly over the scanner), then it would read it 5ms later when it was actually in the correct place. instead it fails to read it and i need to lift my finger off it before it will try again.
The second issue for me is even bigger, if phone is sitting on the desk, there is no quick easy way to unlock it. i cant get to the fingerprint scanner, and to use the iris scanner i would have to stand up and move my head over the top of the desk. so the only option without picking the thing up is to activate it with a hard home button press and then type in the pin. if the fingerprint scanner was on the front, then it would be perfect, just put my finger on it and its done.
The only thing keeping me sane at the moment is that I just came from an S5 where the only way to unlock it was home key, THEN swipe away the stupid false second lock screen, THEN entering pin/pattern. Even hitting the fingerprint scanner wrongly a couple of times is still so much faster than unlocking my s5 was but this could have been so much better if it was on the front (or one the back in a sensible place like slightly below the camera and in the middle.
Sounds like you guys need to change some settings.
MY phone is fast and easy. Pick it up and put my finger on the fingerprint sensor and im at the home screen.
Press power button and the iris picks up right away and im at the home screen.
To start off make sure you setup your iris scanner good. Make sure your in well lite lighting and the front camera is clean and clear.
Second in your settings under Lock Screen > Iris Sensor > Iris Unlock ON , Iris unlock when screen turns on ON,
Then for finger print the same thing. Fingerprint Scanner > Fingerprint unlock ON
I find it easier just use the fingerprint sensor or the virtual home button. When the phone's off, you can just put your whole fingertip on the sensor and it automatically unlocks (if it verifies you print properly). Also the virtual home button works when the screen's off. you can hold the home button when the screen's off, then choose your unlock method. Other than that it's a pain to press the power button, then use the fingerprint sensor or pattern unlock.
I bounce between fingerprint and facial recognition. It's taking some getting used to but it isn't that bad.
You can also set it to just use force touch to unlock the phone
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Quick tip, In display settings -> navigation bar -> enable home press to unlock.
Found that by doing this its so much quicker accessing the iris scanner or going straight to pin/pattern screen.
In case you didn't know, you can press the home button when the screen is off [yes, you can totally press it when the screen if off!]
Phone is super fast for me. Scanner could be in a better postion but it works fine. Also try out smart lock. It let you trust certain places and not have to use anything to unlock.
I haven't had issues turning on the phone, but if you have the AOD on, it is a lil annoying since you have to press the home button on the screen with some pressure before you go to the lock screen, especially if you use anything else, besides the fingerprint sensor as it will unlock while being on the AOD, to unlock you phone.
I will say that setting up the fingerprint scanner is slightly annoying since if your finger isn't on there just right, it'll give you an error. After it's setup, I've found that it works pretty well. And, if you use a case on your phone, thicker cases might be a slight problem. I noticed that while locating the sensor is easier with a case, thicker case, like the Spigen Slim Armor, will be harder because of the added lip.