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Everyone in this forum (well there are exceptions) and using HD2 have issues with hard buttons, including myself, while working my Proximity Screen Off app, I thought of a completely new way of navigation for HD2!! How about using combination of sensors??
1) Shake to go back to home
2) If proximity sensor blocked less than a second go Back
3) If proximity sensor blocked less than 2-3 seconds and more than 1 second trigger
menu.
4) If proximity sensor blocked more than 3 seconds launch search
Haven't started on this yet, I need to know if this community really needs an app like this. Also please share your ideas!!!
I think it would be awesome, especially to show off
Might cause problems if the screen accidentally comes on while in your pocket.
Otherwise I like the concept.
Seems like that could have a lot of flaws, because wat if the sensor get blocked by accident while navigating through traffic
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itsme_4ucz said:
Everyone in this forum (well there are exceptions) and using HD2 have issues with hard buttons, including myself, while working my Proximity Screen Off app, I thought of a completely new way of navigation for HD2!! How about using combination of sensors??
1) Shake to go back to home
2) If proximity sensor blocked less than a second go Back
3) If proximity sensor blocked less than 2-3 seconds and more than 1 second trigger
menu.
4) If proximity sensor blocked more than 3 seconds launch search
Haven't started on this yet, I need to know if this community really needs an app like this. Also please share your ideas!!!
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Mmmm i dunno i think the seconds issue is a bit difficult bcz not everyone is able to guess how many seconds passed everytime
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I guess that a navigation based on acceleration values and sensors is a good idea:
I mean say:
1) Shake to go back to home (<--- ur idea excellent)
2) If proximity sensor blocked then trigger menu
3) Positive or negative values of acceleration along Z (vertically) determines going up and down
4) Positive or negative values of acceleration along X (horizontally) determines navigating left or right
I don't know if that can be done and how It's just an idea
Thanks for your effort
I like the shake idea using the g sensor, but the proximity sensor isn't really in an area that is easily accessible with your finger
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mm... interesting idea
but i'm not sure it will be very useful though... for me
I've not had any problems with my hard keys so not sure that this would do it for me.
However I have always thought that albums (photo and music) should go through the pictures/album covers if your device was tilted to the left or right.
On second reading you're not talking about adding this feature to apps are you, just to have some new menu and home ideas!!
is it posible to use gesture on gsensor? like moving your handset in circle to "search", move your phone from right to left to go "back"?
honestly I think this would be impractical and a waste of time.
I like the idea of G Sensor doing things though, like maybe shake to launch an app or an address to map to or something like that.
If you can solve all the technicalities, I believe this would be awesome. I guess the software would have to have a value of:
Locked screen = normal proximity sensor
More than 5 seconds blocked plus angle = call = screen off
On the other hand, what about shake the phone and a bar with soft buttons comes up on the bottom of the screen covering the launcher and not the icons, shake or press a swipe the bar and the bar goes off.
Wish I knew programming.
What about shake phone to wake up?
Not unlock but just wake up as is this is the most used action which involves hardware keys.
***sorry about my english***
indrema said:
What about shake phone to wake up?
Not unlock but just wake up as is this is the most used action which involves hardware keys.
***sorry about my english***
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so your phone is turning on in your pocket when you walk? not good
i'd say do it, but that way that blocking proximity for a tiny bit (very short, like just swype over with hand)) will bring up menu such as Vol +- (overlayed over any app) and it contains back, menu search etc...any block longer will be overlooked(so it's not doing if u sheild ur phone from sunlight or hide it in school(lol)
for waking up u can already use all buttons so shift them.
Nice idea.
I think gestures on screen with fingers are better.(if it's possible)
Like: Move with 2 fingers from right to left would be the same as a click on the "back button".
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Otherwise... i think there are some Apps who have some of these gestures... There might be problems.. :/
Please work on an app for this. That would be awesome. The proximity app is is so useful too
Or maybe just implement most used or just one or two functions like search, back, menu, etc.
Or even better let it be user defineable.
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Not a bad idea...it certainly would be in invention worthy of the name.
And it would also make our lovely HD2s super marvelous!!!!!.......atleast for showing off!!
App Button Savior has all of it. It is faster than using the proximity.
1. This would surely be usefull if you are in a car and must navigate through the menu/programm.
(button savior icons are too small for this if you are in a car)
usefull for back/forward/start programm like google voice etc etc.
2. Option automatic activate the app if the phone is hooked to micro usb.
According to a tweet from HTC (https://twitter.com/htc/status/461511570959663104), you're supposed to be able to double tap the screen while it is sleeping in order to wake the device.
This doesn't work for me unless I do it really hard or have it in my hand. Anyone have the same experience? Any setting I need to change? Maybe it's my ROM? (Skyfall)
Are you using enough of your finger to tap it?
On mine I have to almost tap it with the full pad of the end of my finger. I can't just double-tap with the tip of my finger.
Yeah, that's never worked for me either. It seems like the sensor only gets activated once I pick it up.
Yeah someone in marketing was misinformed. Unless you're using a custom kernel, you need to move the device first to get it to wake from a tap or swipe
Thanks for the feedback. I ask because someone tweeted @ me: "Bring your unit back to the carrier you purchased it from. It's worked fine for us with no issue at all."
For me, I tap the screen once and then double tap it right after. Seems to do the job.
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Settings, display and gestures, g sensor calibration. Calibrate it poorly intentionally slanted against a book or whatnot. It thinks your device is tilted when it is laying down.
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well really its like this ==> Settings/Display & gestures/Motion Launch Gestures/HELP =(look (close its really there =] ) and then under Double tap it reads "Pick up the phone in portrait orientation and double tap to wake " but if I really double tap mine while its laying flatly screen up with some force it wakes just make sure you really give it good tapping.
Other than that test to see if picking it first portrait orientation and give it a few taps and see if it wakes.
I just saw the post above mine that is a great answer/work around. I like that kind of thinking.
wtoj34 said:
Settings, display and gestures, g sensor calibration. Calibrate it poorly intentionally slanted against a book or whatnot. It thinks your device is tilted when it is laying down.
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I was going to reply with this exact method until I saw that you did so.
This works, and resolves the issue completely. now a light double tap even turns on the screen while it is laying flat.
It's a pretty simple concept. Unlike the LG G2, this phone came with some more smarts to save battery. The G2 device is ALWAYS active to receive phone taps, thus using more battery. The M8 device only once the phone is in motion it turns on the sensor to recieve any kind of double tap, thus saving battery! Pretty nice IMO and smart. Motion control window says itself you need to pick up device then double tap to activate.
For people who want to bypass this you can:
A. Tap the phone hard while on a desk thus causing the phone to move around waking up the motion sensor to activate double tap.
B. Give the G Sensor setting a bad setting so when device is laid flat on a surface the phone thinks it's not flat thus activating the double tap feature all the time thus using more battery.
So either love the feature for what it is or don't and us more battery.
The M8 double-tap to wake requires you to pick up the phone. The double-tap motion is not enough. If you double tap it while flat on a table it may work but usually it does not or very inconsistent.. Lift it and it will always work.
What's happening is when you move or pick up the phone the proximity sensor is activated, allowing the double-tap function to work, but after a few seconds of leaving it on the table, the sensor will shut off until it is disturbed again.
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What's happening is when you move or pick up the phone the proximity sensor is activated, allowing the double-tap function to work, but after a few seconds of leaving it on the table, the sensor will shut off until it is disturbed again.
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Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?
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Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?
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Interesting!
Actually I notice what's also keeping the double-tap function to work is the light senor, regardless the phone's position.
The sensor is located left of the front camera; try covering it up and see if you can double-tap to wake your phone
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Interesting!
Actually I notice what's also keeping the double-tap function to work is the light senor, regardless the phone's position.
The sensor is located left of the front camera; try covering it up and see if you can double-tap to wake your phone
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Just tried it: Yes I can
No.. You definitely can't. Either you're not covering the sensor or you're not using a Verizon m8.
Confirmed.. Cover sensor, DT2W doesn't work.
berndblb said:
Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?
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Hey how are things ?
No idea if supported on this device but wouldn't Swipe to Wake (Up) be better solution to Double Tap?
PS Need you over on Nexus 6P.
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Hey how are things ?
No idea if supported on this device but wouldn't Swipe to Wake (Up) be better solution to Double Tap?
PS Need you over on Nexus 6P.
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Hey there. Long time no see. Wish i could afford the 6P... And i love the M8. Should be good for another year.
I don't know, maybe it's me, but i always feel like there is a moment of frustration when i have to turn the device on.
On my mate 9 I literally picked up the device and easily touched the fingerprint sensor which is placed away from anywhere else and obvious to find. Bang, it's on. On this device OMG it's so freaking frustrating, whether I have e a case or not. I'm always fiddling around trying to find it.
If i want to use face or Iris, it's two steps. First I have elto find the power button and then switch it on, then stuff this thing in front of my face. Also annoying, never that quick and obtrusive if you are with other people, . If I'm in the car at a red light, and there's any movement it often takes a few seconds. Really annoying.
If I'm in a meeting and I want to quickly check something i have to find the power button and them use a pin or pattern. Again, front fingerprint sensor is better for that.
The always on would be better served if it could double tap to wake, then when on a table at least i could check for messages without ping up the phone.
All in all I'm finding it frustrating. Or is it just me.
I agree completely. I'm forever forgetting that picking up the device doesn't just turn it on and that I have to press the button. Does anyone know of an easier way to wake the device so all I have to do is tap the fingerprint sensor?
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I don't know, maybe it's me, but i always feel like there is a moment of frustration when i have to turn the device on.
On my mate 9 I literally picked up the device and easily touched the fingerprint sensor which is placed away from anywhere else and obvious to find. Bang, it's on. On this device OMG it's so freaking frustrating, whether I have e a case or not. I'm always fiddling around trying to find it.
If i want to use face or Iris, it's two steps. First I have elto find the power button and then switch it on, then stuff this thing in front of my face. Also annoying, never that quick and obtrusive if you are with other people, . If I'm in the car at a red light, and there's any movement it often takes a few seconds. Really annoying.
If I'm in a meeting and I want to quickly check something i have to find the power button and them use a pin or pattern. Again, front fingerprint sensor is better for that.
The always on would be better served if it could double tap to wake, then when on a table at least i could check for messages without ping up the phone.
All in all I'm finding it frustrating. Or is it just me.
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One thing I did find is that if you set up the fingerprint scanner, that touching the fingerprint scanner immediately unlocks and turns on the device.
Iris scanner not a problem for me at all, I set the virtual home button force press to activate it straight away, power button or home button doubletap lets me see my notifications without activating the iris scanner. I always hold my phone in the angle that the iris scanner works in, so it usually takes less than one second to go from screen off to home screen, with the iris scanner and force-touch combo. But everyone has different ways of using their devices, so a non-issue for me might be a big issue for someone else
I turned off the always on display. Less frustrating!
Is there a way to make power go on when you pick k up the device?
When AOD is on you can just double tap the home button to wake the device. Just an fyi
ekerbuddyeker said:
I don't know, maybe it's me, but i always feel like there is a moment of frustration when i have to turn the device on.
On my mate 9 I literally picked up the device and easily touched the fingerprint sensor which is placed away from anywhere else and obvious to find. Bang, it's on. On this device OMG it's so freaking frustrating, whether I have e a case or not. I'm always fiddling around trying to find it.
If i want to use face or Iris, it's two steps. First I have elto find the power button and then switch it on, then stuff this thing in front of my face. Also annoying, never that quick and obtrusive if you are with other people, . If I'm in the car at a red light, and there's any movement it often takes a few seconds. Really annoying.
If I'm in a meeting and I want to quickly check something i have to find the power button and them use a pin or pattern. Again, front fingerprint sensor is better for that.
The always on would be better served if it could double tap to wake, then when on a table at least i could check for messages without ping up the phone.
All in all I'm finding it frustrating. Or is it just me.
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Yep it is just you, you a a special kind.
Iris scanner works for me driving in the dark when phone is mounted on my magnetic windshield mount. Took a while to get the placement right tho but rest assured-iris is wonderful it just takes trial and error
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For the first few hours I was regretting upgrading. Now I could never go back. It just takes getting used to.
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The issue for me with the read scanner is the stupid placement. i constantly have to tap it twice because to hit it the first time i have to kinda slide my finger across the back to find it, then lift off and press down again to activate it. It would be a lot better if i didnt need to lift and press again, then if it didnt read it when i slide my finger over it into position (because it has tried to read it before my finger was properly over the scanner), then it would read it 5ms later when it was actually in the correct place. instead it fails to read it and i need to lift my finger off it before it will try again.
The second issue for me is even bigger, if phone is sitting on the desk, there is no quick easy way to unlock it. i cant get to the fingerprint scanner, and to use the iris scanner i would have to stand up and move my head over the top of the desk. so the only option without picking the thing up is to activate it with a hard home button press and then type in the pin. if the fingerprint scanner was on the front, then it would be perfect, just put my finger on it and its done.
The only thing keeping me sane at the moment is that I just came from an S5 where the only way to unlock it was home key, THEN swipe away the stupid false second lock screen, THEN entering pin/pattern. Even hitting the fingerprint scanner wrongly a couple of times is still so much faster than unlocking my s5 was but this could have been so much better if it was on the front (or one the back in a sensible place like slightly below the camera and in the middle.
Sounds like you guys need to change some settings.
MY phone is fast and easy. Pick it up and put my finger on the fingerprint sensor and im at the home screen.
Press power button and the iris picks up right away and im at the home screen.
To start off make sure you setup your iris scanner good. Make sure your in well lite lighting and the front camera is clean and clear.
Second in your settings under Lock Screen > Iris Sensor > Iris Unlock ON , Iris unlock when screen turns on ON,
Then for finger print the same thing. Fingerprint Scanner > Fingerprint unlock ON
I find it easier just use the fingerprint sensor or the virtual home button. When the phone's off, you can just put your whole fingertip on the sensor and it automatically unlocks (if it verifies you print properly). Also the virtual home button works when the screen's off. you can hold the home button when the screen's off, then choose your unlock method. Other than that it's a pain to press the power button, then use the fingerprint sensor or pattern unlock.
I bounce between fingerprint and facial recognition. It's taking some getting used to but it isn't that bad.
You can also set it to just use force touch to unlock the phone
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Quick tip, In display settings -> navigation bar -> enable home press to unlock.
Found that by doing this its so much quicker accessing the iris scanner or going straight to pin/pattern screen.
In case you didn't know, you can press the home button when the screen is off [yes, you can totally press it when the screen if off!]
Phone is super fast for me. Scanner could be in a better postion but it works fine. Also try out smart lock. It let you trust certain places and not have to use anything to unlock.
I haven't had issues turning on the phone, but if you have the AOD on, it is a lil annoying since you have to press the home button on the screen with some pressure before you go to the lock screen, especially if you use anything else, besides the fingerprint sensor as it will unlock while being on the AOD, to unlock you phone.
I will say that setting up the fingerprint scanner is slightly annoying since if your finger isn't on there just right, it'll give you an error. After it's setup, I've found that it works pretty well. And, if you use a case on your phone, thicker cases might be a slight problem. I noticed that while locating the sensor is easier with a case, thicker case, like the Spigen Slim Armor, will be harder because of the added lip.
So I noticed that double tap on screen to make it light up isnt always working for me, sometimes i have to tap it for like 10 times before it works and sometimes it doesnt work at all.
Anyone else having this issue?
I have the settings turned on.
Settings --> screen --> motion launch --> first one is on.
Would like to hear your experiences with this.
same here.
i think that you need to raise your phone in portrait first (vertically) before you are able to wake it by double tapping
The phone needs to detect movement before double tap to wake to work as per the example in the motion launch settings.
Double tap to wake use proximity sensor and motion sensor. Do you have a screen protector (or anything else) that interfere with proximity sensor ?
No need to raise it vertically. If you move it frankly on a table, you can use double tap to wake.
Kidy973 said:
Double tap to wake use proximity sensor and motion sensor. Do you have a screen protector (or anything else) that interfere with proximity sensor ?
No need to raise it vertically. If you move it frankly on a table, you can use double tap to wake.
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Im not using a screen protector yet, also the case i'm using is the one that HTC provides.
The Phone is on my table, i tap on twice to unlock nothing.
I did notice that if you tap above the middle of the screen it'll work however if you use the lower end of the screen it wont work.
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Im not using a screen protector yet, also the case i'm using is the one that HTC provides.
The Phone is on my table, i tap on twice to unlock nothing.
I did notice that if you tap above the middle of the screen it'll work however if you use the lower end of the screen it wont work.
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The phone needs some kind of motion. Chances are you're pressing the top half of the phone which is heavier, and the bottom half is moving enough for the phone to warrant the double top.
If the phone is perfectly still, no matter where you touch it, double tap won't work.
Is anyone else having the same issue?
Double tap only works when the ambient display is showing (the clock before the lock screen).
If you turn off ambient display all together, double tap does not work.
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Is anyone else having the same issue?
Double tap only works when the ambient display is showing (the clock before the lock screen).
If you turn off ambient display all together, double tap does not work.
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Double tap works for me without ambient display being on.
I'm on stock 58.0.A.28.51.
Looks like it's one of the system apps whose permission I modified.
I just did a factory reset
It seems like a common issue with this phone. My tap to wake has never worked properly and it's driving me insane. Tap tap tap TAP TAAAAP, then it works. Sometimes.
Does anyone have a solution for this before I throw it out of the second floor window?
Yeah, that's one of the very few annoying things. I wonder if it has to do with the screen protector? There have been user reports of lower touch sensitivity (mostly at the edges of the screen) due to screen protectors.
Double tap isn't working again when ambient display is set to "OFF" and I have not messed around with system app permissions.
I did verify that 2x tap is working after I debloated the phone with AD set to "OFF". Not sure what has changed since then because I have not used this phone since debloat.
More details:
-2x tap will only work when AD is showing
-for as long as AD is showing that clock, 2x tap works
Double tap and lag-free notifications should work much better when you set "Smart activation" in Ambient display settings (lokk in "When to show Ambient display" settings).
Same issues, tried many things mentioned here and more ... you'd think simple things like this would work flawlessly in a high end phone. Really tired of digging and digging in the phone and online to find solutions, so frustrating. Sony will have to make something extraordinary in the future to convince me to buy another phone from them ...
It's way too long time have passed from the last post, but I was wondering about the same issue of double tap when searching for the answer had led me to this topic. I've recently bought two same phones, not Sony but Nokia 5.4 with Android 10 and stucked in gesture unlock too. Though this topic didn't helped me, later I've found the solution by myself and eager to share the way that did worked for me with everyone.
So, if the double tap to wake up the screen suddenly stopped working, try this:
1) go to Settings-System-Gestures
2) find the "double-tap wake" option and turn it OFF
3) back to home screen and lock the phone with the power button
4) unlock the phone with any way
5) go to Settings-System-Gestures
6) find the "double-tap wake" option and turn it ON
That's all, your favorite unlocking must work again (well, both my phones were healed). Good luck! )
Inversely, you can't disable tap to wake on the AOD.
Infuriating.
In any case, 3-taps always works for me
Including this phone and Pixel 2XL.