I don't know, maybe it's me, but i always feel like there is a moment of frustration when i have to turn the device on.
On my mate 9 I literally picked up the device and easily touched the fingerprint sensor which is placed away from anywhere else and obvious to find. Bang, it's on. On this device OMG it's so freaking frustrating, whether I have e a case or not. I'm always fiddling around trying to find it.
If i want to use face or Iris, it's two steps. First I have elto find the power button and then switch it on, then stuff this thing in front of my face. Also annoying, never that quick and obtrusive if you are with other people, . If I'm in the car at a red light, and there's any movement it often takes a few seconds. Really annoying.
If I'm in a meeting and I want to quickly check something i have to find the power button and them use a pin or pattern. Again, front fingerprint sensor is better for that.
The always on would be better served if it could double tap to wake, then when on a table at least i could check for messages without ping up the phone.
All in all I'm finding it frustrating. Or is it just me.
I agree completely. I'm forever forgetting that picking up the device doesn't just turn it on and that I have to press the button. Does anyone know of an easier way to wake the device so all I have to do is tap the fingerprint sensor?
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ekerbuddyeker said:
I don't know, maybe it's me, but i always feel like there is a moment of frustration when i have to turn the device on.
On my mate 9 I literally picked up the device and easily touched the fingerprint sensor which is placed away from anywhere else and obvious to find. Bang, it's on. On this device OMG it's so freaking frustrating, whether I have e a case or not. I'm always fiddling around trying to find it.
If i want to use face or Iris, it's two steps. First I have elto find the power button and then switch it on, then stuff this thing in front of my face. Also annoying, never that quick and obtrusive if you are with other people, . If I'm in the car at a red light, and there's any movement it often takes a few seconds. Really annoying.
If I'm in a meeting and I want to quickly check something i have to find the power button and them use a pin or pattern. Again, front fingerprint sensor is better for that.
The always on would be better served if it could double tap to wake, then when on a table at least i could check for messages without ping up the phone.
All in all I'm finding it frustrating. Or is it just me.
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One thing I did find is that if you set up the fingerprint scanner, that touching the fingerprint scanner immediately unlocks and turns on the device.
Iris scanner not a problem for me at all, I set the virtual home button force press to activate it straight away, power button or home button doubletap lets me see my notifications without activating the iris scanner. I always hold my phone in the angle that the iris scanner works in, so it usually takes less than one second to go from screen off to home screen, with the iris scanner and force-touch combo. But everyone has different ways of using their devices, so a non-issue for me might be a big issue for someone else
I turned off the always on display. Less frustrating!
Is there a way to make power go on when you pick k up the device?
When AOD is on you can just double tap the home button to wake the device. Just an fyi
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I don't know, maybe it's me, but i always feel like there is a moment of frustration when i have to turn the device on.
On my mate 9 I literally picked up the device and easily touched the fingerprint sensor which is placed away from anywhere else and obvious to find. Bang, it's on. On this device OMG it's so freaking frustrating, whether I have e a case or not. I'm always fiddling around trying to find it.
If i want to use face or Iris, it's two steps. First I have elto find the power button and then switch it on, then stuff this thing in front of my face. Also annoying, never that quick and obtrusive if you are with other people, . If I'm in the car at a red light, and there's any movement it often takes a few seconds. Really annoying.
If I'm in a meeting and I want to quickly check something i have to find the power button and them use a pin or pattern. Again, front fingerprint sensor is better for that.
The always on would be better served if it could double tap to wake, then when on a table at least i could check for messages without ping up the phone.
All in all I'm finding it frustrating. Or is it just me.
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Yep it is just you, you a a special kind.
Iris scanner works for me driving in the dark when phone is mounted on my magnetic windshield mount. Took a while to get the placement right tho but rest assured-iris is wonderful it just takes trial and error
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For the first few hours I was regretting upgrading. Now I could never go back. It just takes getting used to.
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The issue for me with the read scanner is the stupid placement. i constantly have to tap it twice because to hit it the first time i have to kinda slide my finger across the back to find it, then lift off and press down again to activate it. It would be a lot better if i didnt need to lift and press again, then if it didnt read it when i slide my finger over it into position (because it has tried to read it before my finger was properly over the scanner), then it would read it 5ms later when it was actually in the correct place. instead it fails to read it and i need to lift my finger off it before it will try again.
The second issue for me is even bigger, if phone is sitting on the desk, there is no quick easy way to unlock it. i cant get to the fingerprint scanner, and to use the iris scanner i would have to stand up and move my head over the top of the desk. so the only option without picking the thing up is to activate it with a hard home button press and then type in the pin. if the fingerprint scanner was on the front, then it would be perfect, just put my finger on it and its done.
The only thing keeping me sane at the moment is that I just came from an S5 where the only way to unlock it was home key, THEN swipe away the stupid false second lock screen, THEN entering pin/pattern. Even hitting the fingerprint scanner wrongly a couple of times is still so much faster than unlocking my s5 was but this could have been so much better if it was on the front (or one the back in a sensible place like slightly below the camera and in the middle.
Sounds like you guys need to change some settings.
MY phone is fast and easy. Pick it up and put my finger on the fingerprint sensor and im at the home screen.
Press power button and the iris picks up right away and im at the home screen.
To start off make sure you setup your iris scanner good. Make sure your in well lite lighting and the front camera is clean and clear.
Second in your settings under Lock Screen > Iris Sensor > Iris Unlock ON , Iris unlock when screen turns on ON,
Then for finger print the same thing. Fingerprint Scanner > Fingerprint unlock ON
I find it easier just use the fingerprint sensor or the virtual home button. When the phone's off, you can just put your whole fingertip on the sensor and it automatically unlocks (if it verifies you print properly). Also the virtual home button works when the screen's off. you can hold the home button when the screen's off, then choose your unlock method. Other than that it's a pain to press the power button, then use the fingerprint sensor or pattern unlock.
I bounce between fingerprint and facial recognition. It's taking some getting used to but it isn't that bad.
You can also set it to just use force touch to unlock the phone
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Quick tip, In display settings -> navigation bar -> enable home press to unlock.
Found that by doing this its so much quicker accessing the iris scanner or going straight to pin/pattern screen.
In case you didn't know, you can press the home button when the screen is off [yes, you can totally press it when the screen if off!]
Phone is super fast for me. Scanner could be in a better postion but it works fine. Also try out smart lock. It let you trust certain places and not have to use anything to unlock.
I haven't had issues turning on the phone, but if you have the AOD on, it is a lil annoying since you have to press the home button on the screen with some pressure before you go to the lock screen, especially if you use anything else, besides the fingerprint sensor as it will unlock while being on the AOD, to unlock you phone.
I will say that setting up the fingerprint scanner is slightly annoying since if your finger isn't on there just right, it'll give you an error. After it's setup, I've found that it works pretty well. And, if you use a case on your phone, thicker cases might be a slight problem. I noticed that while locating the sensor is easier with a case, thicker case, like the Spigen Slim Armor, will be harder because of the added lip.
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Is there a program so that when your screen is locked, you can assign one button only to wake your screen and have access to the unlock slider? Now, if any of the 4 hard buttons are pressed, it brings up the unlock screen. The problem is, when the phone is in my pocket, any one of the 4 buttons, if accidentally pressed, wakes up the screen. Then of course, I hear my phone in my pocket clicking because the heat from my leg is "tapping" the screen. I just want to have the right hard button wake the phone up.
I cant find an option in the settings for this, nor any threads that discuss it.
Thanks.
I really admire you if you're able to slide the slider with the phone in your pocket.
LOL. No, I dont slide it. Just that when in my pocket, when any one of the 4 hard buttons are pressed(accidentally), i have to press the power button to lock the screen again. A pain in the butt. I what the phone to have only one hard button, not 4, that will shut off the screen when the phone is locked.
I'd like it too.
Maybe even some old school unlocking shortcut that uses hardware key combination (e.g. Home + Vol Down), rather than slide.
The Diamond, or was it the HD, had a button on the top to wake the phone up. That was nice because it was hard to accidentally press that button when it was in your pocket.
I use pocketshield for automatically unlocking my phone when the light sensor senses light coming in. An added benefit for this is that when the phone is in my pocket and I accidentally press any button, the screen will automatically shut itself off again after 10 seconds since there is no incoming light. This tool has really made my life so much easier as it gets rid of the stupid slider thing as well; you can use the lightsensor, the motion sensor and an old school sliding mechanism to unlock your phone- brilliant stuff!
Iarapilot might have meant something else indeed. Most of WM6.1-WM6.5 have a tab in the Start->Settings->Buttons screen that allows you to choose which kind of wake-up you need: waking up by pressing the Pw-ON button or waking up pressing whatever button you want. Sudden power-on is very boring, even thought you can't make your device work as you need to slide the screen. But this is a power comsuption anyway and I wonder why previous version had this chance regardless the home screen features. I do want it!!
I think it's a matter of regkeys, somebody of us who's used to "playing" with regkeys should figure out how this feature could be resumed.
Hope you help us!!
Maybe I didnt make my point very well. I just would like to have only the R hardware key, when pressed, wake up the screen so as to be able to slide to unlock. Not 4 buttons, that when any of those are pressed, wake up the screen.
I also have the problem, I only want to have only one key to wake up not other key
Please help us
Since it's free, I add myself to the request queue Having the screen wake up only on powerbutton press could be useful to reduce to 25% the probabilityof screen turning on by accident when buttons are pressed inside the pocket. Battery saver for sure.
Same here. I've been looking for this since I first got the phone! My old kaiser could do this, surely it wouldn't be too hard to implement on the HD2?
edit: nevermind, posted in the wrong thread
I don't think any software can control that as key presses send electrical signals direct to the chip/power unit, where the "power on" circuits reside. What software can do is turn it off again if not unlocked within a specific amount of time, so battery is saved. Screen touches shouldn't be an issue either if using a lock screen.
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I use pocketshield for automatically unlocking my phone when the light sensor senses light coming in. An added benefit for this is that when the phone is in my pocket and I accidentally press any button, the screen will automatically shut itself off again after 10 seconds since there is no incoming light. This tool has really made my life so much easier as it gets rid of the stupid slider thing as well; you can use the lightsensor, the motion sensor and an old school sliding mechanism to unlock your phone- brilliant stuff!
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and doesnt create any problem in normal use? u ask because if u are in call and let some other app start while talk (maybe with earphones) its quietly impossible use portrait mode because left hand always cover light sensor and screen shut down.. its the same with that app?
Did someone already found a solution? I would like such a option too. wake up only by centerbutton for instance....
Alright so my power button seems to be getting a little flaky even with trackball wake so I spent the day thinking about a way to lock the phone without pressing the power button.
I looked into remapping the trackball click (seems like a lot of work) and tried remapping the search button to power off (with no success).
Then after sitting awhile I remembered this app I saw in the HD2 forums called proximity screen off. I thought it would only work for the HD2 but Im so glad I gave it a shot because it works FLAWLESSLY.
I just wanted to share this with everyone who is looking to save whats left of their power button!
All credit of course goes to itsme_4ucz.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876945&highlight=proximity
In case your wondering the proximity sensor if you are looking a the screen is to the top left of the phone.
The settings are pretty self explanatory. I think you have to check Enable Device Admin and you should check disable in landscape, disable during call, and check disable accidental lock with a 1 second timeout (meaning if you hold your finger/hand/whatever over the sensor for more than 1 second the screen wont lock). Those are just my settings though other settings might work better for you.
Have fun guys!
good find i like it
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quite useful
Thanks! Great find. I found "Tap Tap App" which also does the same thing but by tapping the proximity sensor. Works really well so far so good.
Do you think keeping the proximity sensor on all the time is bad for the sensor?
According to a tweet from HTC (https://twitter.com/htc/status/461511570959663104), you're supposed to be able to double tap the screen while it is sleeping in order to wake the device.
This doesn't work for me unless I do it really hard or have it in my hand. Anyone have the same experience? Any setting I need to change? Maybe it's my ROM? (Skyfall)
Are you using enough of your finger to tap it?
On mine I have to almost tap it with the full pad of the end of my finger. I can't just double-tap with the tip of my finger.
Yeah, that's never worked for me either. It seems like the sensor only gets activated once I pick it up.
Yeah someone in marketing was misinformed. Unless you're using a custom kernel, you need to move the device first to get it to wake from a tap or swipe
Thanks for the feedback. I ask because someone tweeted @ me: "Bring your unit back to the carrier you purchased it from. It's worked fine for us with no issue at all."
For me, I tap the screen once and then double tap it right after. Seems to do the job.
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Settings, display and gestures, g sensor calibration. Calibrate it poorly intentionally slanted against a book or whatnot. It thinks your device is tilted when it is laying down.
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well really its like this ==> Settings/Display & gestures/Motion Launch Gestures/HELP =(look (close its really there =] ) and then under Double tap it reads "Pick up the phone in portrait orientation and double tap to wake " but if I really double tap mine while its laying flatly screen up with some force it wakes just make sure you really give it good tapping.
Other than that test to see if picking it first portrait orientation and give it a few taps and see if it wakes.
I just saw the post above mine that is a great answer/work around. I like that kind of thinking.
wtoj34 said:
Settings, display and gestures, g sensor calibration. Calibrate it poorly intentionally slanted against a book or whatnot. It thinks your device is tilted when it is laying down.
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I was going to reply with this exact method until I saw that you did so.
This works, and resolves the issue completely. now a light double tap even turns on the screen while it is laying flat.
It's a pretty simple concept. Unlike the LG G2, this phone came with some more smarts to save battery. The G2 device is ALWAYS active to receive phone taps, thus using more battery. The M8 device only once the phone is in motion it turns on the sensor to recieve any kind of double tap, thus saving battery! Pretty nice IMO and smart. Motion control window says itself you need to pick up device then double tap to activate.
For people who want to bypass this you can:
A. Tap the phone hard while on a desk thus causing the phone to move around waking up the motion sensor to activate double tap.
B. Give the G Sensor setting a bad setting so when device is laid flat on a surface the phone thinks it's not flat thus activating the double tap feature all the time thus using more battery.
So either love the feature for what it is or don't and us more battery.
The M8 double-tap to wake requires you to pick up the phone. The double-tap motion is not enough. If you double tap it while flat on a table it may work but usually it does not or very inconsistent.. Lift it and it will always work.
What's happening is when you move or pick up the phone the proximity sensor is activated, allowing the double-tap function to work, but after a few seconds of leaving it on the table, the sensor will shut off until it is disturbed again.
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What's happening is when you move or pick up the phone the proximity sensor is activated, allowing the double-tap function to work, but after a few seconds of leaving it on the table, the sensor will shut off until it is disturbed again.
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Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?
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Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?
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Interesting!
Actually I notice what's also keeping the double-tap function to work is the light senor, regardless the phone's position.
The sensor is located left of the front camera; try covering it up and see if you can double-tap to wake your phone
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Interesting!
Actually I notice what's also keeping the double-tap function to work is the light senor, regardless the phone's position.
The sensor is located left of the front camera; try covering it up and see if you can double-tap to wake your phone
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Just tried it: Yes I can
No.. You definitely can't. Either you're not covering the sensor or you're not using a Verizon m8.
Confirmed.. Cover sensor, DT2W doesn't work.
berndblb said:
Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?
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Hey how are things ?
No idea if supported on this device but wouldn't Swipe to Wake (Up) be better solution to Double Tap?
PS Need you over on Nexus 6P.
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Hey how are things ?
No idea if supported on this device but wouldn't Swipe to Wake (Up) be better solution to Double Tap?
PS Need you over on Nexus 6P.
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Hey there. Long time no see. Wish i could afford the 6P... And i love the M8. Should be good for another year.
I've kept the E8's so called Motion Launch Gestures feature turned on.
The screen doesn't wake up 3 out of 10 times of tapping on it.
Is this a bug or am I missing something?
The way I do is, pick the phone up in portrait position and then tap on the screen.
This may be a very minor one, but it irritates when you assume that the phone would wake up on the tap and it doesn't, where you'll have to end up using the power button for the same.
Please let me know your experience or if you've got a few tips to get around it!
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I've kept the E8's so called Motion Launch Gestures feature turned on.
The screen doesn't wake up 3 out of 10 times of tapping on it.
Is this a bug or am I missing something?
The way I do is, pick the phone up in portrait position and then tap on the screen.
This may be a very minor one, but it irritates when you assume that the phone would wake up on the tap and it doesn't, where you'll have to end up using the power button for the same.
Please let me know your experience or if you've got a few tips to get around it!
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It did happen to me a few times in the beginning, but not anymore. The catch here is that the gyroscope phone has to detect a movement for the double tap to work. So, if it's lifted from a table or so with very minute change in the axis,the motion sensors won't work. Otherwise it would work just fine.
My usage of the dot view made it easier, because double tapping with the case open and folded back always produced a movement/vibration. Now even without the dot view, most of the times, I'm able to get it right. It's just about getting used to it I guess. Just lift your device from any table or so, and slightly tilt it towards yourself. That is enough to trigger the motion launch gestures.
Thanks! I'll give that a try!
I have just a simple question to other users of this (otherwise nice) phone: I have the screen lock set up the standard way (no pin or anything), I also use the display doube-tap wake-up gesture (I found it quite useful for the phone with symmetrical front side). What happens is, that if I have my phone in the pocket, display facing the leg, the phone sometimes wakes up itself, runs some application or make a phone call to somebody from my quick dial list. If I position it facing outside of the pocket (which is quite insecure for the glass), it does not happen. The weird thing is, that if I switch off the double-tap feature, it does not solve the problem... The phone is with stock ROM 5.0.2-01003, no root (unfortunately). Does this happen also to anybody else, or just me?
P.S.: I wonder, why there's no such simple feature like "solid phone display lock" when the proximity sensor is covered... Possibly, somebody will implement it in a custom ROM (I hope ).
I don't have an elegant solution for you, but I'll pipe in that this has happened to me several times. I have a suspicion that the power button is being hit in the pocket- a problem which is not unique to this device.
I'm using Nova launcher with double-tap set to (PIN) lock the device, and this pretty much solves the problem, but does add extra hassle if you don't care about the security.
same happens to me on my 5.5 but i have gesture lock, so th ephone only start dialing in emergency dialer...only one solution is to insert the phone to the pocket with back cover facing the leg.
I use pattern lock but I was facing the same issues as the others (emergency dialing and camera activation). I've tried several apps from playstore and the best results are with Pocket Screen Lock (com.goldenpie.psl). The screen cannot be activated with the double tap nor with the power button when the proximity sensor is covered.
One other thing you are overlooking is to position the phone upside down in your pocket. Understandable not to have the glass facing outward, but you can put the phone in 'up-side down' and turn on reversible screen . That should prevent the power button from being inadvertently triggered in my experience.
I've had the same issue, but only with this one pair of jeans, so it probably depends on the cloth.
FYI, if you're rooted, the Gravitybox module for Xposed has a setting under Power Tweaks called "Proximity wake-up" which does exactly what you want in terms of preventing wake ups when the proximity sensor is covered. I've only just turned it on, but so far it seems to be working well.
Actually it seems that this has been fixed in the latest update for 6039. The display cannot be unlocked by the gesture anymore if the sensor is covered. All other apps have conflict with this (at least for me). Which in turn requires the power button to be explicitly pressed in order the display to be activated. Even if it's not in my pocket anymore.
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Actually it seems that this has been fixed in the latest update for 6039. The display cannot be unlocked by the gesture anymore if the sensor is covered. All other apps have conflict with this (at least for me). Which in turn requires the power button to be explicitly pressed in order the display to be activated. Even if it's not in my pocket anymore.
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Right you are on both counts. I'll test further before posting next time. Thanks for the correction.