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how to root moto g without unlock bootloader?
Right now there is no solution. Maybe one day, but don't hold your breath.
ok, and unlocking bootloader can be reverted to locked bootloader for warranty as it was never unlocked? when bootloader is locked theres any difference or alert, like the alter triangle in samsung phones with unlocked bootloader?
When the bootloader is unlocked there is a warning when you boot, but there's a solution published in these forums for how to revert to the normal Motorola boot screen. You can relock the bootloader but it doesn't restore the warranty as Motorola have a list of which phones have been unlocked.
However in Europe unlocking the bootloader does not invalidate your warranty, regardless of what Motorola might say. You also have an automatic 2-year warranty on all purchases.
raniero1 said:
ok, and unlocking bootloader can be reverted to locked bootloader for warranty as it was never unlocked? when bootloader is locked theres any difference or alert, like the alter triangle in samsung phones with unlocked bootloader?
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To unlock Bootloader you have to submit "fastboot oem get_unlock_data" on Motorola's website and you'll get the unlock code. If you do so they have your device in their database. Secondary it is flagged in the device itself if i remember right.
ok but ive just spoken with motorola support in italy, they told me that if the phone had any software modification they wont provide anymore warranty
I know that to unlock sony phone you have to get from their website also a code, but that dont get you warranty off, in italy ive sent the phone in assistance and they didnt even check that database
anyway i hope there will be a way to root without losing warranty in near future, like for samsung flashing prerooted stock firmware
i just want root to restore data from a titanium backup for 1 app from my previous android phone, nothing more
raniero1 said:
ok but ive just spoken with motorola support in italy, they told me that if the phone had any software modification they wont provide anymore warranty
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I'm not sure with this, but i think, in Europe you'll have full warrenty anyway on the Hardware as long as you did not destroy it by a software failure. So for e.g. if you unlock Bootloader only and your screen will be dead later which is not caused by a software modification you'll have full warrenty on the Hardware. But if it comes hard, it might be difficult to deliver a proper proof to Motorola that it is a manufacturers fault.
This is the chat i had right now with motorola germany
Ben: Hallo, mein Name ist Ben. Wie kann ich Ihnen helfen?
me: Hello, can i just ask you a question in english?
Ben: Sure, how can I help?
me: Thank you very much, i just would like to know if phone unlocking, about moto g, void warranty
me: With phone unlocking i mean bootload unlocking
Ben: Yes, this will void the warranty.
me: Ok thank you ben
me: goodbye
Ben: You are very welcome, bye for now.
This is also written in their licence Agreement. I doubt that it is applicable to EU law in this way. But as i said i don't know for sure, I'm not a lawyer. They can write and say a lot if the day is long and of course they will not give you any legal advice which will be against their own terms.. If you ask them they will always answer what they want. Terms can sometimes be futile. Maybe you can ask in a lawyers Forum. Many more will be interested in that
EDIT: In Germany you have the Terms Gewährleistung und Garantie. It can be that the Gewährleistung will be lost because it is voluntary given to you by the vendor. But with my above mentioned Situation the Garantie will be still applicable as in aboves case, at least in Germany. But as i said I don't know for sure. This is what i read in the last weeks about this.
NOT SURE IF IT IS REALLY LIKE THAT!!!
EDIT: If you can understand German you might read this. Maybe I'll find this also in English.
EDIT: Several Laguages:
Directive 1999/44/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 25 May 1999 on certain aspects of the sale of consumer goods and associated guarantees
I have unlocked the bootloader and if a hardware fault occured I would ask Motorola to fix it, if they said no as my warranty is void (and refuse to fix it whatever I say) my only option is to then take to them court. Am I going to do that over a £160 phone - no Im not, I'll just buy a new phone as taking Motorola to court isnt something I fancy doing
I guess there may be other options, eg some sort of civil rights organization which helps with warranty issues which may or may not cost money, but even if its free its still going to cost a lot of my time.
I think if you unlock the bootloader you really want to acknowledge that the chances are that Motorola wont be fixing your phone, whether thats lawfully right or wrong may not be worth your time and money arguing over.
Personally I wouldnt blame Motorola for telling me that made my choice and now to live with it.
What I do think is a shame is that they dont officially release the stock images of the moto g as they do with their dev editions of some phones. After all that may remove a lot of support calls they get (and then refuse) from people that have screwed up their moto g's by unlocking and rooting etc.
scott_doyland said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and if a hardware fault occured I would ask Motorola to fix it, if they said no as my warranty is void (and refuse to fix it whatever I say) my only option is to then take to them court. Am I going to do that over a £160 phone - no Im not, I'll just buy a new phone as taking Motorola to court isnt something I fancy doing
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Did you buy the phone from Motorola directly? Probably no.
Amazon, Tesco, Phones4you etc...
The warranty contract which is provided by EU law is not between you and the manufacturer (Motorola), but between you and the seller.
So if you have a hardware fault, you send/take the phone back to the seller. It's true that If they don't replace it right away, they'll probably send it to Motorola for repair anyways, and Motorola can say that your warranty is void.
But in this article this article they say:
"In case the seller refuses your right to repair or replace the device, you can sue him in a civil litigation and can report the incident to the national authority. In many European countries such action does not even require hiring a lawyer and is most of the time ensured by consumers associations."
Thanks for the info, its obvious to me now that I'd go to phones4u - just as I would return any faulty appliance to the seller. It would be interesting to see what happened if I ever had to do that, but i hope I don't have to.
cwm without unlocking
can we install cwm by this method ( http://motorola-g.blogspot.in/2013/12/how-to-install-cwmtwrp-custom-recovery.html?m=1 )without unlocking? if possible we can install pre rooted roms by cwm. am a noobie... guide me pls
balajiasmartguy said:
can we install cwm by this method ( http://motorola-g.blogspot.in/2013/12/how-to-install-cwmtwrp-custom-recovery.html?m=1 )without unlocking? if possible we can install pre rooted roms by cwm. am a noobie... guide me pls
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You can't. Atm it's not possible root moto g without unlock bl. There are not other ways for now.
denzel09 said:
You can't. Atm it's not possible root moto g without unlock bl. There are not other ways for now.
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cwm?
balajiasmartguy said:
cwm?
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Without unlock bootloader you can not boot or flash a custom recovery on moto g. It is not possible in our case. Again.
y its not possible... in recovery it has a option to install update from SD card... with this can't we install cwm? correct me if I am wrong...
For root on g you need:
unlock bootloader,
custom recovery.
If you don't unlock bootloader forget root.
denzel09 said:
For root on g you need:
unlock bootloader,
custom recovery.
If you don't unlock bootloader forget root.
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am sorry for disturbing you. am not asking about root. can I install cwm directly without unlocking... using install update from SD card option in stock recovery...
balajiasmartguy said:
am sorry for disturbing you. am not asking about root. can I install cwm directly without unlocking... using install update from SD card option in stock recovery...
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No
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hello guys!
it is my first post.
we purchased for my sister the moto g and in order to make it more efficient with greenify etc i unlocked the bootloader and have a root but a week later when my sister took the moto g in her hands and had her sim cut (the guy in vodafone told her it is the same) the screen started blinking and the wifi died after 5 hours with her sim card.
so i had to re lock the bootloader and un root the device in order to ask for a replacement .
my problem is that my device is now
"DEVICE IS LOCKED. STATUS CODE : 2"
but
when i boot the device the warning screen with "warning bootloader unlocked" appears again..
what should i do in order to request an rma as the screen is blikining all the time and my device is wifi off always
thank you in advance
sobi1984 said:
hello guys!
it is my first post.
we purchased for my sister the moto g and in order to make it more efficient with greenify etc i unlocked the bootloader and have a root but a week later when my sister took the moto g in her hands and had her sim cut (the guy in vodafone told her it is the same) the screen started blinking and the wifi died after 5 hours with her sim card.
so i had to re lock the bootloader and un root the device in order to ask for a replacement .
my problem is that my device is now
"DEVICE IS LOCKED. STATUS CODE : 2"
but
when i boot the device the warning screen with "warning bootloader unlocked" appears again..
what should i do in order to request an rma as the screen is blikining all the time and my device is wifi off always
thank you in advance
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Once you unlock bootloader the warranty is void even if you relock. There is a thread about how to alter the warning screen but is cosmetic only, it does not give you back your warranty.
sobi1984 said:
hello guys!
it is my first post.
we purchased for my sister the moto g and in order to make it more efficient with greenify etc i unlocked the bootloader and have a root but a week later when my sister took the moto g in her hands and had her sim cut (the guy in vodafone told her it is the same) the screen started blinking and the wifi died after 5 hours with her sim card.
so i had to re lock the bootloader and un root the device in order to ask for a replacement .
my problem is that my device is now
"DEVICE IS LOCKED. STATUS CODE : 2"
but
when i boot the device the warning screen with "warning bootloader unlocked" appears again..
what should i do in order to request an rma as the screen is blikining all the time and my device is wifi off always
thank you in advance
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just flash the original logo?
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tohigh said:
just flash the original logo?
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That doesn't work, its one stock logo file but depending on locked or unlocked it displays no warning or warning. There is a thread for a 'special' logo file which needs flashing.
scott_doyland said:
Once you unlock bootloader the warranty is void even if you relock. There is a thread about how to alter the warning screen but is cosmetic only, it does not give you back your warranty.
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Total and utter balls. Your warranty is only void as a result of unlocking the bootloader if the manufacturer can prove the damage to the phone was directly caused by the unlocking - such as if you overclock the device. Otherwise the warranty is still applicable - this has been stated time and again in UK and European cases.
Read the post above. If you're from Europe, you got no problem asking for RMA, even if you've unlocked it.
But to get peace of mind, you can always flash the original logo ( may require unlocking the bootloader again, cos I'm not sure if you can flash unsigned images if the bootloader is locked, then lock it again).
SimonTS said:
Total and utter balls. Your warranty is only void as a result of unlocking the bootloader if the manufacturer can prove the damage to the phone was directly caused by the unlocking - such as if you overclock the device. Otherwise the warranty is still applicable - this has been stated time and again in UK and European cases.
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True, good luck taking Motorola to court to get your phone fixed should you ever need to though. I assume Motorola can afford better lawyers than most users.
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True, good luck taking Motorola to court to get your phone fixed should you ever need to though. I assume Motorola can afford better lawyers than most users.
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You don't need to take them to court. In the UK it's covered by the "Sales of Goods Act", and in Europe there are similar things.
The phone manufacturers aren't actually stupid. They may try to not repair it, but as soon as you start quoting the relevant stuff at them they will back down because they can't afford to be in a bad light in front of the European courts - especially not with all the litigation going on at the moment.
Use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635706
NOTE: Version 3.0 is missing the exe file..
Download version 2.6: https://app.box.com/s/4783z4d9b956d8daq0wr
Use the Fix Boot Logo Option
first of all, i have searched a lot about the issue i am having, i have not found a single one as mine.
XT1033 with locked bootloader
It started with 5.0.2 ota update, the update file was downloaded and flashing was smoothly done, after the final restart it stuck in a boot loop (on the moto logo white coloured). i straight away went to service center and they told me that my motherboard was the issue, needs to be changed for almost the cost of the phone itself.
then i thought of trying somethings from here (xda), found [5.0.2][Restore to Stock][XT1033] Asia Retail [Dual Sim][4.4.2/4.4.2][LockBootloader] i tried flashing stock firmware from this thread not flashing the "mfastboot.exe oem lock begin" and "mfastboot.exe oem lock" part. And the phone started!!!! i was laughing about the motherboard thing
Used it for about 15 days with no bug, no issues, no random reboots, the again one day it simply went into bootloop again, i was sure that there was a hardware issue, but then again i went through the same procedure and it was again working, this same process has happened for about 4-5 times on the last month.
i would like to know:
1. Is it a hardware issue? (service center people will surely make me buy a new motherboard)
2. Is it some kind of issue with the lollipop, downgrading to kitkat will help?
3. any permanent solution (or will i have to format the phone every 10 days?)
any help is very much appreciated.
kaliyaakakallu1 said:
first of all, i have searched a lot about the issue i am having, i have not found a single one as mine.
XT1033 with locked bootloader
It started with 5.0.2 ota update, the update file was downloaded and flashing was smoothly done, after the final restart it stuck in a boot loop (on the moto logo white coloured). i straight away went to service center and they told me that my motherboard was the issue, needs to be changed for almost the cost of the phone itself.
then i thought of trying somethings from here (xda), found [5.0.2][Restore to Stock][XT1033] Asia Retail [Dual Sim][4.4.2/4.4.2][LockBootloader] i tried flashing stock firmware from this thread not flashing the "mfastboot.exe oem lock begin" and "mfastboot.exe oem lock" part. And the phone started!!!! i was laughing about the motherboard thing
Used it for about 15 days with no bug, no issues, no random reboots, the again one day it simply went into bootloop again, i was sure that there was a hardware issue, but then again i went through the same procedure and it was again working, this same process has happened for about 4-5 times on the last month.
i would like to know:
1. Is it a hardware issue? (service center people will surely make me buy a new motherboard)
2. Is it some kind of issue with the lollipop, downgrading to kitkat will help?
3. any permanent solution (or will i have to format the phone every 10 days?)
any help is very much appreciated.
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Replacing the motherboard is a very bad idea as you can buy a new phone from that money
You can try unlocking the bootloader and flashing a custom ROM
PS- After unlocking BL You can take a backup is your data partition with a custom recovery and then no worries of data loss
So this is not a hardware issue??
kaliyaakakallu1 said:
So this is not a hardware issue??
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I can't tell you that now because it may be after all a hardware issue
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Is your phone in warranty?
Do you have any problem in unlocking the bootloader?
sjandroiddeveloper said:
I can't tell you that now because it may be after all a hardware issue
Now
Is your phone in warranty?
Do you have any problem in unlocking the bootloader?
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no, the phone is not in warranty.
And about unlocking the boot loader, one option for me was to get a new moto g 2014 with exchange offer on flipkart (i am from india and flipkart is reducing about Rs 3000 for this phone). So i am not sure that if i unlock the boot loader will they accept it??
is there a way to relock it and make it stock?
kaliyaakakallu1 said:
no, the phone is not in warranty.
And about unlocking the boot loader, one option for me was to get a new moto g 2014 with exchange offer on flipkart (i am from india and flipkart is reducing about Rs 3000 for this phone). So i am not sure that if i unlock the boot loader will they accept it??
is there a way to relock it and make it stock?
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Yes you can lock the bootloader again but that's I think not gonna help because when you unlock your device you need to get the unlock code from Motorola only, so they after all know that you unlocked it once
And buying a second gen moto g is not a good deal at current time as the internals are almost same on both devices and besides you are getting only Rs 3000 off that's not a big amount on money considering that you may still be able to save your device
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Yes you can lock the bootloader again but that's I think not gonna help because when you unlock your device you need to get the unlock code from Motorola only, so they after all know that you unlocked it once
And buying a second gen moto g is not a good deal at current time as the internals are almost same on both devices and besides you are getting only Rs 3000 off that's not a big amount on money considering that you may still be able to save your device
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thanks for the suggestion.
as soon as i get home, i will look into unlocking bootloader and installing some custom rom, can you recommend any particular rom that you are using, need it as a daily driver (stable one) .
kaliyaakakallu1 said:
thanks for the suggestion.
as soon as i get home, i will look into unlocking bootloader and installing some custom rom, can you recommend any particular rom that you are using, need it as a daily driver (stable one) .
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And please think before talking any step
I said "you may be able to save your device" and not "you will surely be able to save your device"
Don't blame me if custom ROMs are not able to solve your problem
These things don't always have a desired output
Now if you are ready for some customs things my suggestions to you
* Use either philz touch latest or TWRP from xda ( and not from TWRP's official site)
* For ROMs , if you still want to stick with Motorola's stock ROM you can try custom recovery flashable zip made by @lost101
He made both normal variants and optimised ones
*Or if you wanna use custom ROMs try CM 12.1 latest nightly
*Read properly how to flash everything
*If while flashing anything you see any error in logs report back ( it may be able to tell if there's a hardware fault)
i was using my phone(its never rooted or try to experiment something its just a original factory setted piece) and suddenly my moto g2 gets switched off and when I try to switch it on a black color screen came with just a message saying "AP Fastboot Flash Mode (S)"
Please help me with this
I have tried to unlock the bootloader I got the unlock code from motorola and when iam using the next query "fastboot oem unlock xxxxxxxxxx......." then error comes invalid unlock data
please help me in making my phone normal with back to stock rom
Thats a lot, sometimes the most easiest answer is just return the phone to carrier if under Warrenty. If not under Warrenty get another phone, sometimes we might not be able to buy new phone .
Then comes the headache of solving the question ??if rooted, easy install new ROM that works with your phone.
If not rooted then no Warrenty then root device, find other users that have rooted your device. I know I always find the most complicated answer to the simplest question by posting and asking other users. I wish you luck in finding your answer dont forget to share your answer and experience .
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HHello, I wanted to consult something before getting into a problem. I have the moto g100 with the challenge channel, since the Android 12 ota did not come out for this channel, I decided to install the Android 12 retail ota, Everything worked correctly, but now I want to install my original firmware which is RETAR and block the bootloader, so my question is the following, can I flash my original firmware and lock the bootloader?.
Yes if you flash ORGINAL ROM (Android Version) for your device you can LOCK bootloader for your device.
Lock the bootloader at your own risk, this forum has a thread full of people who have bricked their device after relocking.
Phone wouldn't boot into the system after bootloader locking back...
I wanted to help someone whose phone wouldn't boot into the system after bootloader locking back, phone hangs on a red warning. And in the process of experimenting myself got confused and got into the same situation. Unlocking the bootloader...
forum.xda-developers.com
The stock roms found on lolinet won't boot after relocking and you'll loose the ability to flash anything else. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! Also, you can't downgrade the bootloader. What this means is that if you flash older Android 11 stock image it may result in bootloop.
I have a G8 doha that was hard bricked a few years ago.. It did not show up in device manger at all, no matter how i tried. Not even the Qualcomm mode. This did happen after locking bootloader or change slot A/B. (Don't remember, sorry). The phone was totally dead, so it was just "archieved for later use".. Then one month ago i found a description on how to wake it up to qualcomm mode by shorting two points on pcb. I tried, and it did work. Phone showed up in device manager, and i flashed blankflash. After that i flashed stock rom. Phone is now working again. I had to do several tries to get it up running. The description on how to do it was not accurate, but i found a sequence to start it. Unfortunately i don't remember exactly. It is something with pushing/holding a button when connecting USB or shorting points on pcb.. Youtube link show how to do it..
GT
Somebody try relock bootloader on g100 and have succes ? I back to stock rom with Rescue and Smart Assistant tools but I am slightly afraid that the phone will not get up after relock the bootloader. :|
sp6ina said:
Somebody try relock bootloader on g100 and have succes ? I back to stock rom with Rescue and Smart Assistant tools but I am slightly afraid that the phone will not get up after relock the bootloader. :|
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Yes I relock my bootloader on the Moto g100 the North American version. Right after I did it I tried to set up my phone and it wanted my last four digit Google pin code and if you didn't do it fast enough it kept rebooting so for a half hour I tried everything under the sun Google kept asking me I want to try another way. But I have two step verification on my Google account so it couldn't send me the code over my telephone number so after a couple tries using the recover my account option underneath which asked you like personal information like your name and everything it finally gave me three options of three different Google emails I have. I got my unlock code and unlock the bootloader without using a PC or a computer. I used bugjaeger. The premium app is well worth the $10 it works super easy and super efficient
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Somebody try relock bootloader on g100 and have succes ? I back to stock rom with Rescue and Smart Assistant tools but I am slightly afraid that the phone will not get up after relock the bootloader. :|
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Yes I relock my bootloader on the Moto g100 the North American version. Right after I did it I tried to set up my phone and it wanted my last four digit Google pin code and if you didn't do it fast enough it kept rebooting so for a half hour I tried everything under the sun Google kept asking me I want to try another way. But I have two step verification on my Google account so it couldn't send me the code over my telephone number so after a couple tries using the recover my account option underneath which asked you like personal information like your name and everything it finally gave me three options of three different Google emails I have. I got my unlock code and unlock the bootloader without using a PC or a computer. I used bugjaeger. The premium app is well worth the $10 it works super easy
sp6ina said:
Somebody try relock bootloader on g100 and have succes ? I back to stock rom with Rescue and Smart Assistant tools but I am slightly afraid that the phone will not get up after relock the bootloader. :|
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Yes I relock my bootloader on the Moto g100 the North American version. Right after I did it I tried to set up my phone and it wanted my last four digit Google pin code and if you didn't do it fast enough it kept rebooting so for a half hour I tried everything under the sun Google kept asking me I want to try another way. But I have two step verification on my Google account so it couldn't send me the code over my telephone number so after a couple tries using the recover my account option underneath which asked you like personal information like your name and everything it finally gave me three options of three different Google emails I have. I got my unlock code and unlock the bootloader without using a PC or a computer. I used bugjaeger. The premium app is well worth the $10 it works super easy