We all know that the Sensation has suffered from its fair share of bugs and glitches (every new device does) but what I didn't know prior to buying this phone is that models sold in HK (Unbranded or Branded) are not supported in the same manner as the rest of the world. I hope this post can prevent someone else form making the same mistake as me.
After reading forums and talking to people, it became clear that devices in HK were either missing software updates entirely, or getting them months later than the rest of Asia (or the world for that matter).
I contacted HTC about this and spoke with Mike at the HK Customer Service center. He confirmed that HTC Hong Kong has a different policy regarding updates and has no plans to EVER release small incremental updates. He even referred to previous handsets (HTC Desire HD models in HK didn't receive the updates that the rest of the world did) saying that the only time exceptions have been made to this policy is when a major OS update 2.1->2.2 has been issued. Apparently unlike other regions, it is standard policy not to release small updates in Hong Kong. He also doubted that the bootloader update (expected in August) would be available for Hong Kong branded phones stating the models sold in HK are treated separately from other global models. Although I tried to get him to give me an explanation for this bizarre policy, the only answer I could get is that most HK customers are happy with the current release.
As it stands now, HK Sensations are stuck on software version number 1.28.708.2 and HTC HK is categorically stating that they will remain here indefinitely.
Lesson learned for me is to never buy an HTC device in HK ever again.
Does anyone know if there is a way to flash a standard Asia rom (region 707) to a HK phone (region 708)?
i have 1.28.720.2...i thought mine was sourced from HK...have any idea what the 720 region is?
I bought mine in HK, it came with the Asian rom on it
I would expect come the unlock you can then put what ever you like on it but not until then.
and no idea where 720 is, hopefully someone else can tell you.
I spoke with HTC UK about my Sensation (bought on EBay) and it seems that 720 is India!
cupcake said:
I spoke with HTC UK about my Sensation (bought on EBay) and it seems that 720 is India!
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sweeeet (i don't know why i think that's good, but whatever...)
I want to buy the OPO but my throwback is the country I live in, Bangladesh. As you know, 16 countries are officially available to the supply of OPO and Bangladesh is not listed on it. Surprisingly one of the dealers in Bangladesh is selling OPO at a rate of $488.75 (US Dollar) for the Chinese Version.
So my query is that is there any difference between the Chinese version and the international version or are they both identical. And why is the Chinese version so widely available where as the International version is as bad as extinct?
Anyone Help? Thanks in advance xD
siam672 said:
I want to buy the OPO but my throwback is the country I live in, Bangladesh. As you know, 16 countries are officially available to the supply of OPO and Bangladesh is not listed on it. Surprisingly one of the dealers in Bangladesh is selling OPO at a rate of $488.75 (US Dollar) for the Chinese Version.
So my query is that is there any difference between the Chinese version and the international version or are they both identical. And why is the Chinese version so widely available where as the International version is as bad as extinct?
Anyone Help? Thanks in advance xD
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Google search
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Forum
How to flash CM11
One India Thread - Bought Chinese Version(Awaiting Delivery)
OnePlus One 16GB in Stock for $399 at Oppomart?
Double check bandwidths in your country / network provider
mitchilin said:
Google search
First result [good]
Forum
How to flash CM11
One India Thread - Bought Chinese Version(Awaiting Delivery)
OnePlus One 16GB in Stock for $399 at Oppomart?
Double check bandwidths in your country / network provider
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Thanks. Could you tell me if I'm going to be able to use LTE and 3g in USA or in countries in Europe? I'm a student and I'm going to change countries for better education in a year. So I need to know if LTE and 3G will work properly on major carriers in USA or in countries in Europe. Thanks for your help earlier though, really appreciate the time you taken to do the researches for my help. Thanks.
Reading various threads, i am quite heavily confused in understanding how OTA updates work.
Aka: i bought a LON-L29 running LON-L29C636B124 on ebay because in my country (USA), thats the only way i could buy it. So i guess this model was imported from some region like Europe. Then other threads seem to indicate OTA in different european countries happens at different times. Yet other threads offer OTA by pointing to DNS servers with probably faked DNS entries for the OTA servers.
Obviously, i am trying to figure out what i can do to get OTA with the least amount of hacking..
So, how does the phone decide how to get OTA ?
- What role does the SIM play ? Aka: could i improve my chances to get OTA by removing my carriers SIM first (the carrier that is not offering/supporting this phone). I was hoping with this being a carrier independent firmware, it would be out of the picture (had enough of carrier firmware).
- What role does the wifi network i am connecting to play - eg: is there some form of IP geo restrictions for OTA servers (only accepting OTAs from IP addresses in specific contries).
- What role does the build number (LON-L29C636B124) or other IDs in the phone play to select the OTA server ? would all phones with the name build type (LON-L29C636) request the same upgrade ?
- Does any of the huawei ID/accounts created on the phone have an impact ? I created a Huawei ID on the web with USA as the country and the phone was rejecting it. I then created an ID on the phone with country being Germany and that worked.
Sorry, hit me if i missed finding an FAQ that covers this.
te36 said:
Reading various threads, i am quite heavily confused in understanding how OTA updates work.
Aka: i bought a LON-L29 running LON-L29C636B124 on ebay because in my country (USA), thats the only way i could buy it. So i guess this model was imported from some region like Europe. Then other threads seem to indicate OTA in different european countries happens at different times. Yet other threads offer OTA by pointing to DNS servers with probably faked DNS entries for the OTA servers.
Obviously, i am trying to figure out what i can do to get OTA with the least amount of hacking..
So, how does the phone decide how to get OTA ?
- What role does the SIM play ? Aka: could i improve my chances to get OTA by removing my carriers SIM first (the carrier that is not offering/supporting this phone). I was hoping with this being a carrier independent firmware, it would be out of the picture (had enough of carrier firmware).
- What role does the wifi network i am connecting to play - eg: is there some form of IP geo restrictions for OTA servers (only accepting OTAs from IP addresses in specific contries).
- What role does the build number (LON-L29C636B124) or other IDs in the phone play to select the OTA server ? would all phones with the name build type (LON-L29C636) request the same upgrade ?
- Does any of the huawei ID/accounts created on the phone have an impact ? I created a Huawei ID on the web with USA as the country and the phone was rejecting it. I then created an ID on the phone with country being Germany and that worked.
Sorry, hit me if i missed finding an FAQ that covers this.
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OTA`s are set on IMEI numbers, nothing else afaik.
I have the same model as you with the same firmware which I imported to Spain :S
OT: Which seller did you choose in ebay ? I am curious if they made you pay taxes.
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They are actually Carrier related. I am in Australia and only received the OTA to B138 when I inserted a Hong Kong SIM.
There is a thread on here about it.
Or you can do a full download, see this link https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/mate-9-mha-l29c636-t3532168
Your phone send a request to Huawei's server for an update. The request includes some information about your phone. One of these includes a field called IMEI. Since the data is encrypted with Huawei's private key, we can't be sure what is included in this data, but my guess is it's both your IMEI and your IMSI.
Although other information is sent, Huawei will tell your phone there is or isn't an upgrade based on your current version, phone model, and the aforementioned IMEI field. They push it initially to some IMEIs, and push it later to others. They may never push it to others.
Your phone is the C636 region, which is the Asia/Pacific region, not Europe.
Anyway, the easiest way to get updates is to use FunkyHuawei. That is able to get you the latest update regardless of whether Huawei wants your specific IMEI to have it. The only other way would be to pay attention to what people with the same phone/branding as you have, and see if they're getting an update. If they are and you're not, you could try finding a Hong Kong or Malaysian SIM card, and seeing if that helps. Otherwise, you can wait.
Not the ideal situation, but Huawei works in mysterious ways, apparently.
Thanks folks for the infos.
Is there a list of what regions the numbers indicate ? C636 being for "asia/pacific" seems to be the one thats peddled on ebay as well.
I clicked on "downloadlatest full package" both with and without US (ATT) SIM inserted, but got nothing (aka huawei tells me B124 is latest). FunkyHuawei has C636B139 though.
My orioginal problem is that i want daydream, and just sideloading vr.vrcore and vr.home was not sufficient. Store does not offer daydream only apps, and sideloaded daydream apps fail to start with an incompatibility popup (which may be possible to get around, but its just maddening).
This thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/mobile-vr/google-daydream-vr/spoofing-daydream-compatible-device-t3534943 seems to explain how to hack up the rest of googles moronic compatibility checks, but i may just wait for a firmware upgrade that officially supports it and then worst case use FunkyHuawei to install it if Huawei does not offer it to me via upgrade.
I guess B139 is not yet introducing official daydream compatibility, or else i am sure some huawei marketing droid would have already posted that info somewhere.
te36 said:
Thanks folks for the infos.
Is there a list of what regions the numbers indicate ? C636 being for "asia/pacific" seems to be the one thats peddled on ebay as well.
I clicked on "downloadlatest full package" both with and without US (ATT) SIM inserted, but got nothing (aka huawei tells me B124 is latest). FunkyHuawei has C636B139 though.
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Here's the list I found from other threads.
These are some of the codes that are used by Huawei:
CUST Region Provider
C02 Europe Vodafone
C10 Russia
C21 Telefonica / O2
C40 Czech Republic Telefonica / O2
C55 Italia TIM
C86 Spain Yoigo
C112 Latin America
C121 Türkei
C123 Switzerland
C150 Telekom
C151 India
C185 Middle East
C209 Asia (Pacific)
C249 Serbia Telekom
C432 Europe
C470 Asia (Pacific)
C605 Colombia
C636 Asia (Pacific)
C637 Spain
C675 India
C900 General Free intern. Version
I would really like to know what the version number for the US model is. If anyone knows please share.
Thanks.
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Here's the list I found from other threads.
These are some of the codes that are used by Huawei:
CUST Region Provider
C02 Europe Vodafone
C10 Russia
C21 Telefonica / O2
C40 Czech Republic Telefonica / O2
C55 Italia TIM
C86 Spain Yoigo
C112 Latin America
C121 Türkei
C123 Switzerland
C150 Telekom
C151 India
C185 Middle East
C209 Asia (Pacific)
C249 Serbia Telekom
C432 Europe
C470 Asia (Pacific)
C605 Colombia
C636 Asia (Pacific)
C637 Spain
C675 India
C900 General Free intern. Version
I would really like to know what the version number for the US model is. If anyone knows please share.
Thanks.
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C567 for US
Do Canadians get updates to the mate 9? Please let me know as it will be a deciding factor in keeping the phone. Thanks
Megatruong said:
Do Canadians get updates to the mate 9? Please let me know as it will be a deciding factor in keeping the phone. Thanks
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You can always use FunkyHuawei to force an update.
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duraaraa said:
Your phone send a request to Huawei's server for an update. The request includes some information about your phone. One of these includes a field called IMEI. Since the data is encrypted with Huawei's private key, we can't be sure what is included in this data, but my guess is it's both your IMEI and your IMSI.
Although other information is sent, Huawei will tell your phone there is or isn't an upgrade based on your current version, phone model, and the aforementioned IMEI field. They push it initially to some IMEIs, and push it later to others. They may never push it to others.
Your phone is the C636 region, which is the Asia/Pacific region, not Europe.
Anyway, the easiest way to get updates is to use FunkyHuawei. That is able to get you the latest update regardless of whether Huawei wants your specific IMEI to have it. The only other way would be to pay attention to what people with the same phone/branding as you have, and see if they're getting an update. If they are and you're not, you could try finding a Hong Kong or Malaysian SIM card, and seeing if that helps. Otherwise, you can wait.
Not the ideal situation, but Huawei works in mysterious ways, apparently.
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Megatruong said:
Do Canadians get updates to the mate 9? Please let me know as it will be a deciding factor in keeping the phone. Thanks
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You can still get updates on your phone. All you need to do is identify which region your phone comes from and put it the right sim card.
In my case, I put in a dead hk sim card because my phone is c636, and it detected update right away over wifi and I'm up to b138 now.
asmok said:
You can still get updates on your phone. All you need to do is identify which region your phone comes from and put it the right sim card.
In my case, I put in a dead hk sim card because my phone is c636, and it detected update right away over wifi and I'm up to b138 now.
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And how can we get this "dead sim cards" without much trouble ? Haha
I have the same C636.
I have the Chinese AL00. model. Besides the first update about a month back when I first had the phone that had the OTA. I have been able to update via the Hicare-service-update manually every time there is a new firmware come out. Wonder if this isn't the same case with international models? BTW, I'm using Chinese AL00 model in Australia and on B165 ATM.
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And how can we get this "dead sim cards" without much trouble ? Haha
I have the same C636.
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Here
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261695989051
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Here
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261695989051
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I had the same problem with my P9+ C636, live in Sweden and never recived OTA to my phone. Asked Huawei support for help and this was there answer.
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting Huawei!
We still did not confirm your mobile phone belong to Hong Kong version or not. If you confirm your phone was Hong Kong version only insert Hong Kong sim card then can receive OTA update. There was no other way to solve if you did not have Hong Kong sim card until now. Thank you.
For further inquiry, please feel free to contact us. Have a nice day!
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I have the Chinese AL00. model. Besides the first update about a month back when I first had the phone that had the OTA. I have been able to update via the Hicare-service-update manually every time there is a new firmware come out. Wonder if this isn't the same case with international models? BTW, I'm using Chinese AL00 model in Australia and on B165 ATM.
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i did same thing , I use AL00 in Canada will my Bell SIM, every time there is a new update, i can receive it from Hicare. I can keep up to date. Now i changed it to L29C432, dont know if i can get OTA anymore from EU region.
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Here
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261695989051
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I had the same problem with my P9+ C636, live in Sweden and never recived OTA to my phone. Asked Huawei support for help and this was there answer.
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting Huawei!
We still did not confirm your mobile phone belong to Hong Kong version or not. If you confirm your phone was Hong Kong version only insert Hong Kong sim card then can receive OTA update. There was no other way to solve if you did not have Hong Kong sim card until now. Thank you.
For further inquiry, please feel free to contact us. Have a nice day!
Sent from my VIE-L29 using XDA Labs
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Thanks for the link.
i ordered a cheap hongkon SIM card from ebay. lets see.
Is this a huawei specific problem or are other vendors equally obfuscated in dealing with updates ?
te36 said:
i ordered a cheap hongkon SIM card from ebay. lets see.
Is this a huawei specific problem or are other vendors equally obfuscated in dealing with updates ?
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why dont you try to register a Hicare account in the phone region and use that ?
It works for me to upgrade my Chinese Al00 with Canada Bell sim.
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why dont you try to register a Hicare account in the phone region and use that ?
It works for me to upgrade my Chinese Al00 with Canada Bell sim.
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I agree. Unless international version works differently.
Hello guys,
I hope everyone is doing fine out there regarding this worldwide pandemic!
I am here asking for help regarding my Note 20 Ultra.
I have a SM-N9860 model (i think this is China, Hong Kong variant) with Snapdragon CPU.
I live in Europe, Romania and because my phone was build for an other region, I can't use some of the mandatory apps(samsung pay), I dont't have access to updates from europe, I have a different layout for my keyboard, etc.
Now, here is the question: is it possible to flash the Romania's stock ROM version on my phone? Keep in mind that in europe there are no official Snapdragon variants and that means that I will flash an Exinos ROM on a Snapdragon phone.
I hope I found the right topic to post my question.
Have a nice day, everybody!
no you cant flash an exynos rom on snapdragon. I have the n9860 in israel im waiting for android 11 still.
never used samsung pay or google pay, cash is king.
That's not really what I wanted to hear
But, thanks God I did not atempted to flash a new ROM before asking!
Thank you for your answer!
Have a good night!
Same still waiting for Snapdragon Android 11 .... best phone
but last inline for 11 update with UI3.0
Either it's Hong Kong or Taiwan. Why did you buy Chinese version?
It was advertised as Snapdragon version and that's it. Nobody said anything about region, neither US nor China...
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Either it's Hong Kong or Taiwan. Why did you buy Chinese version?
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Its the best on paper... snapdragon, got all the accessories ( case & earphone ) + dual sim
and 256gb base instead of 128gb of the us version..
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They schedule it at January 2021, so it's not that this model are late, it's just the other model get it earlY
I know this is contrary to what everyone says, but a few years ago I did successfully flash Exynos ROM on to a Snapdragon Samsung phone and everything worked fine, this might be anecdotal and I am not responsible if you try this yourself and brick your phone.
It was the Samsung Galaxy Note 9 which I ordered and received from eGlobalCentralUK (ceased trading), they sold Chinese variant phones.
Global variant had the Exynos 9810 chip (SM-N960F/DS)
China variant had the Qualcomm Snapdragon 845 chip (SM-N9600/DS)
I remember doing so because Samsung Pay didn't support any UK banks and only had Chinese banks. I have used Odin plenty before, so without checking on Google if it's possible to do this I just did it. I downloaded the official UK firmware from Sammobile and flashed the SM-N960F/DS (BTU) firmware on to the SM-N9600/DS Note 9. Everything worked to my knowledge, but I didn't do any specific tests like 2G/3G/4G on the phone.
Later when I got the Note 10+ and tried to sell my phone to MusicMagpie, they offered me £300 revised £0 for it because it wasn't UK variant and they can tell because it was Snapdragon.
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Hi guys. Can anyone help me here? I have a hk version of s22 ultra and looks like the stable version was public since a week ago but I still have nothing.
Is there a way to download the update manual and install it like with OnePlus?
Hey mate the Hong kong Version has an beta 6...so wait a bit think stable will arrive next week. Also have the Hong kong 9080 here in germany
Same model here,still waiting
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too early, wait 1 more week