How does OTA work ? (SIM/DNS/IP/Huawei-ID/...) ? - Huawei Mate 9 Questions & Answers

Reading various threads, i am quite heavily confused in understanding how OTA updates work.
Aka: i bought a LON-L29 running LON-L29C636B124 on ebay because in my country (USA), thats the only way i could buy it. So i guess this model was imported from some region like Europe. Then other threads seem to indicate OTA in different european countries happens at different times. Yet other threads offer OTA by pointing to DNS servers with probably faked DNS entries for the OTA servers.
Obviously, i am trying to figure out what i can do to get OTA with the least amount of hacking..
So, how does the phone decide how to get OTA ?
- What role does the SIM play ? Aka: could i improve my chances to get OTA by removing my carriers SIM first (the carrier that is not offering/supporting this phone). I was hoping with this being a carrier independent firmware, it would be out of the picture (had enough of carrier firmware).
- What role does the wifi network i am connecting to play - eg: is there some form of IP geo restrictions for OTA servers (only accepting OTAs from IP addresses in specific contries).
- What role does the build number (LON-L29C636B124) or other IDs in the phone play to select the OTA server ? would all phones with the name build type (LON-L29C636) request the same upgrade ?
- Does any of the huawei ID/accounts created on the phone have an impact ? I created a Huawei ID on the web with USA as the country and the phone was rejecting it. I then created an ID on the phone with country being Germany and that worked.
Sorry, hit me if i missed finding an FAQ that covers this.

te36 said:
Reading various threads, i am quite heavily confused in understanding how OTA updates work.
Aka: i bought a LON-L29 running LON-L29C636B124 on ebay because in my country (USA), thats the only way i could buy it. So i guess this model was imported from some region like Europe. Then other threads seem to indicate OTA in different european countries happens at different times. Yet other threads offer OTA by pointing to DNS servers with probably faked DNS entries for the OTA servers.
Obviously, i am trying to figure out what i can do to get OTA with the least amount of hacking..
So, how does the phone decide how to get OTA ?
- What role does the SIM play ? Aka: could i improve my chances to get OTA by removing my carriers SIM first (the carrier that is not offering/supporting this phone). I was hoping with this being a carrier independent firmware, it would be out of the picture (had enough of carrier firmware).
- What role does the wifi network i am connecting to play - eg: is there some form of IP geo restrictions for OTA servers (only accepting OTAs from IP addresses in specific contries).
- What role does the build number (LON-L29C636B124) or other IDs in the phone play to select the OTA server ? would all phones with the name build type (LON-L29C636) request the same upgrade ?
- Does any of the huawei ID/accounts created on the phone have an impact ? I created a Huawei ID on the web with USA as the country and the phone was rejecting it. I then created an ID on the phone with country being Germany and that worked.
Sorry, hit me if i missed finding an FAQ that covers this.
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OTA`s are set on IMEI numbers, nothing else afaik.

I have the same model as you with the same firmware which I imported to Spain :S
OT: Which seller did you choose in ebay ? I am curious if they made you pay taxes.

gee2012 said:
OTA`s are set on IMEI numbers, nothing else afaik.
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They are actually Carrier related. I am in Australia and only received the OTA to B138 when I inserted a Hong Kong SIM.
There is a thread on here about it.
Or you can do a full download, see this link https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/mate-9-mha-l29c636-t3532168

Your phone send a request to Huawei's server for an update. The request includes some information about your phone. One of these includes a field called IMEI. Since the data is encrypted with Huawei's private key, we can't be sure what is included in this data, but my guess is it's both your IMEI and your IMSI.
Although other information is sent, Huawei will tell your phone there is or isn't an upgrade based on your current version, phone model, and the aforementioned IMEI field. They push it initially to some IMEIs, and push it later to others. They may never push it to others.
Your phone is the C636 region, which is the Asia/Pacific region, not Europe.
Anyway, the easiest way to get updates is to use FunkyHuawei. That is able to get you the latest update regardless of whether Huawei wants your specific IMEI to have it. The only other way would be to pay attention to what people with the same phone/branding as you have, and see if they're getting an update. If they are and you're not, you could try finding a Hong Kong or Malaysian SIM card, and seeing if that helps. Otherwise, you can wait.
Not the ideal situation, but Huawei works in mysterious ways, apparently.

Thanks folks for the infos.
Is there a list of what regions the numbers indicate ? C636 being for "asia/pacific" seems to be the one thats peddled on ebay as well.
I clicked on "downloadlatest full package" both with and without US (ATT) SIM inserted, but got nothing (aka huawei tells me B124 is latest). FunkyHuawei has C636B139 though.
My orioginal problem is that i want daydream, and just sideloading vr.vrcore and vr.home was not sufficient. Store does not offer daydream only apps, and sideloaded daydream apps fail to start with an incompatibility popup (which may be possible to get around, but its just maddening).
This thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/mobile-vr/google-daydream-vr/spoofing-daydream-compatible-device-t3534943 seems to explain how to hack up the rest of googles moronic compatibility checks, but i may just wait for a firmware upgrade that officially supports it and then worst case use FunkyHuawei to install it if Huawei does not offer it to me via upgrade.
I guess B139 is not yet introducing official daydream compatibility, or else i am sure some huawei marketing droid would have already posted that info somewhere.

te36 said:
Thanks folks for the infos.
Is there a list of what regions the numbers indicate ? C636 being for "asia/pacific" seems to be the one thats peddled on ebay as well.
I clicked on "downloadlatest full package" both with and without US (ATT) SIM inserted, but got nothing (aka huawei tells me B124 is latest). FunkyHuawei has C636B139 though.
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Here's the list I found from other threads.
These are some of the codes that are used by Huawei:
CUST Region Provider
C02 Europe Vodafone
C10 Russia
C21 Telefonica / O2
C40 Czech Republic Telefonica / O2
C55 Italia TIM
C86 Spain Yoigo
C112 Latin America
C121 Türkei
C123 Switzerland
C150 Telekom
C151 India
C185 Middle East
C209 Asia (Pacific)
C249 Serbia Telekom
C432 Europe
C470 Asia (Pacific)
C605 Colombia
C636 Asia (Pacific)
C637 Spain
C675 India
C900 General Free intern. Version
I would really like to know what the version number for the US model is. If anyone knows please share.
Thanks.

nikooe said:
Here's the list I found from other threads.
These are some of the codes that are used by Huawei:
CUST Region Provider
C02 Europe Vodafone
C10 Russia
C21 Telefonica / O2
C40 Czech Republic Telefonica / O2
C55 Italia TIM
C86 Spain Yoigo
C112 Latin America
C121 Türkei
C123 Switzerland
C150 Telekom
C151 India
C185 Middle East
C209 Asia (Pacific)
C249 Serbia Telekom
C432 Europe
C470 Asia (Pacific)
C605 Colombia
C636 Asia (Pacific)
C637 Spain
C675 India
C900 General Free intern. Version
I would really like to know what the version number for the US model is. If anyone knows please share.
Thanks.
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C567 for US

Do Canadians get updates to the mate 9? Please let me know as it will be a deciding factor in keeping the phone. Thanks

Megatruong said:
Do Canadians get updates to the mate 9? Please let me know as it will be a deciding factor in keeping the phone. Thanks
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You can always use FunkyHuawei to force an update.
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duraaraa said:
Your phone send a request to Huawei's server for an update. The request includes some information about your phone. One of these includes a field called IMEI. Since the data is encrypted with Huawei's private key, we can't be sure what is included in this data, but my guess is it's both your IMEI and your IMSI.
Although other information is sent, Huawei will tell your phone there is or isn't an upgrade based on your current version, phone model, and the aforementioned IMEI field. They push it initially to some IMEIs, and push it later to others. They may never push it to others.
Your phone is the C636 region, which is the Asia/Pacific region, not Europe.
Anyway, the easiest way to get updates is to use FunkyHuawei. That is able to get you the latest update regardless of whether Huawei wants your specific IMEI to have it. The only other way would be to pay attention to what people with the same phone/branding as you have, and see if they're getting an update. If they are and you're not, you could try finding a Hong Kong or Malaysian SIM card, and seeing if that helps. Otherwise, you can wait.
Not the ideal situation, but Huawei works in mysterious ways, apparently.
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:good:

Megatruong said:
Do Canadians get updates to the mate 9? Please let me know as it will be a deciding factor in keeping the phone. Thanks
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You can still get updates on your phone. All you need to do is identify which region your phone comes from and put it the right sim card.
In my case, I put in a dead hk sim card because my phone is c636, and it detected update right away over wifi and I'm up to b138 now.

asmok said:
You can still get updates on your phone. All you need to do is identify which region your phone comes from and put it the right sim card.
In my case, I put in a dead hk sim card because my phone is c636, and it detected update right away over wifi and I'm up to b138 now.
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And how can we get this "dead sim cards" without much trouble ? Haha
I have the same C636.

I have the Chinese AL00. model. Besides the first update about a month back when I first had the phone that had the OTA. I have been able to update via the Hicare-service-update manually every time there is a new firmware come out. Wonder if this isn't the same case with international models? BTW, I'm using Chinese AL00 model in Australia and on B165 ATM.

Lodix said:
And how can we get this "dead sim cards" without much trouble ? Haha
I have the same C636.
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Here
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261695989051
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Mostar088 said:
Here
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261695989051
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I had the same problem with my P9+ C636, live in Sweden and never recived OTA to my phone. Asked Huawei support for help and this was there answer.
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting Huawei!
We still did not confirm your mobile phone belong to Hong Kong version or not. If you confirm your phone was Hong Kong version only insert Hong Kong sim card then can receive OTA update. There was no other way to solve if you did not have Hong Kong sim card until now. Thank you.
For further inquiry, please feel free to contact us. Have a nice day!
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giantbike said:
I have the Chinese AL00. model. Besides the first update about a month back when I first had the phone that had the OTA. I have been able to update via the Hicare-service-update manually every time there is a new firmware come out. Wonder if this isn't the same case with international models? BTW, I'm using Chinese AL00 model in Australia and on B165 ATM.
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i did same thing , I use AL00 in Canada will my Bell SIM, every time there is a new update, i can receive it from Hicare. I can keep up to date. Now i changed it to L29C432, dont know if i can get OTA anymore from EU region.

Mostar088 said:
Here
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261695989051
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I had the same problem with my P9+ C636, live in Sweden and never recived OTA to my phone. Asked Huawei support for help and this was there answer.
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting Huawei!
We still did not confirm your mobile phone belong to Hong Kong version or not. If you confirm your phone was Hong Kong version only insert Hong Kong sim card then can receive OTA update. There was no other way to solve if you did not have Hong Kong sim card until now. Thank you.
For further inquiry, please feel free to contact us. Have a nice day!
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Thanks for the link.

i ordered a cheap hongkon SIM card from ebay. lets see.
Is this a huawei specific problem or are other vendors equally obfuscated in dealing with updates ?

te36 said:
i ordered a cheap hongkon SIM card from ebay. lets see.
Is this a huawei specific problem or are other vendors equally obfuscated in dealing with updates ?
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why dont you try to register a Hicare account in the phone region and use that ?
It works for me to upgrade my Chinese Al00 with Canada Bell sim.

jc83419 said:
why dont you try to register a Hicare account in the phone region and use that ?
It works for me to upgrade my Chinese Al00 with Canada Bell sim.
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I agree. Unless international version works differently.

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List of Countries that have NO REGION LOCK on Note 3!

Hi, I have compiled a list of countries which have no region lock on the note 3's.
United Arab Emirates
Bahrain
Malaysia
Qatar
India - N900 Model
Taiwan
Egypt - N900 Model
Lebanon
Hong Kong
Singapore
Philippines
South Africa
Turkey
Minneapolis - United States
Australia - Telstra
Shangai
Kuwait - Some people are saying they have the lock sticker and some don't
Pakistan
Canada - N900W8 with unlocked bootloader
Vietnam - N900
South Korea - N900
Feel free to add to the list
India (N900 model)
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The Taiwan version has no regional locking implemented.
just saw bahrain is added in the list, so just confirming it....i bought mine last night and it had no sticker on the box
Have updated the list
Add Hong Kong and Singapore to that list. Also no OEM device is region locked.
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lebanon lte unlocked
Egypt N900 is not locked too
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i will update this with regards to saudi as I have only been to one shop and it was locked to the middle east region so i have to look at others to confirm.
you should add the Philippines there. can anybody confirm for china and japan?
i read that you can buy unlocked note 3's in the UK, i read it in engadget
updated the list
South Africa N9005 not locked
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zaheedsk said:
South Africa N9005 not locked
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samsung seems to be really making big efforts to capture greater market share in africa, im wondering if they see something there that other OEMs aren't
I wouldn't put too much stock in whether or not the box has a label stating the lock. The one I looked at in Phones4U here in the UK had the sticker yet the one I received direct from Three UK yesterday didn't. It's probably fair to assume that Three UK would only be distributing region locked units so make of the assumptions what you will.
I've had 2 different large online mobile Australian retailers confirm to me, the GN3 they sell is not region locked. Would any Telstra users care to weigh in?
There's no sim region warning on Turkish model (SM-9000Q). Carrier sim locks are forbidden here so probably Turkish model does not have region locks. I am not sure that regulation is applicable to what samsung did.
I'm in Minneapolis, MN in the US. I didn't see a sticker anywhere, nor was there anything in regard to regional locking in my paperwork.
I used my old SIM - I was in a hurry and they just sold me the unopened box & contents. There is an "Isis Ready" Advanced SIM Card in the box with a May expiration date. Since everything works, I wasn't going to pursue it unless I tripped on some new info about it. I'm not sure yet who I'll wallet through, if I do it at all on this phone.
saudi arabia is interesting one major seller has stickers on them but most of the smaller shops in malls sell the unlocked ones. so maybe we should put an asterisk near saudi arabia lol
~Sim lock
Correct me if I am wrong but my understanding was that the phone is region locked only until it has registered with a Sim from the region it is locked too.
Once you have registered the device the lock is removed.
I was under the impression that it is not to stop you from using you device with a sim from another region but rather to just stop cheap imports from appearing in certain markets.
I am picking mine up tomorrow from Three UK will post back what I find.
Doofusfire said:
Correct me if I am wrong but my understanding was that the phone is region locked only until it has registered with a Sim from the region it is locked too.
Once you have registered the device the lock is removed.
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You are wrong.
Doofusfire said:
I was under the impression that it is not to stop you from using you device with a sim from another region but rather to just stop cheap imports from appearing in certain markets.
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It still blocks the black-listet countries. Current amount 63 e.g. in EU-N9005.
Apo11on said:
I've had 2 different large online mobile Australian retailers confirm to me, the GN3 they sell is not region locked. Would any Telstra users care to weigh in?
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Confirmed, Australian Telstra phones are not region locked. Got mine yesterday.

Advice on buying Galaxy S8+ SM-G9550 6GB version for european market

Hi All,
It's been a long while since I have posted something, but I have been using and reading up on XDA with much gratitude since I joined in 2010. The community represented here is just awesome in every way, and I would like you all to know that. I wanted to ask you guys for advice on the following matter:
I currently own a galaxy note 5 in the Netherlands, which I have purchased in Dubai. I decided on the dual sim model, since I find the dual sim capability for my work and private sim very important. The phone has done me well in the last 18 months (worked without any trouble in NL, and is rooted), but now I think it's time to replace it. My new phone of choice would be the Galaxy S8 plus, preferably the 6GB model. Of course this would also need to be the dual sim version, otherwise I could just buy the normal version here in the Netherlands. I have some friends living over in Hong Kong, which would allow me to buy the phone there.
Now for the hard part. Not only does the phone need to be dual sim, it also needs to support all dutch bands (including volte if possible) and it must be able to be rooted (adblock on its own is enough reason to justify that, let alone all other possibilities). I am used to flashing kernels and roms on my phones, as per the consice instructions found on this forum.
The phone that meets my criteria seems to be the SM-G9550 (6GB) that can be bought in Hong Kong. Would you guys please advise me on whether you think that would function here in the Netherlands and whether I can root it? And if not, what would you advise me to do given the above?
Thanks a ton in advance
@kimi4life
The G9550 is the Chinese/HK variant of the GS8+, and while it does support LTE Bands 3, 7 and 20 (those used by Vodafone NL), the combination of bands, known as Carrier Aggregation (or 4G+), may or may not work. Moreover, VoLTE and WiFi calling (if applicable) will NOT work with this variant.
The reason behind this, is the CSC. Since the G9550 is only sold in China and Hong Kong, it does not have a Netherlands CSC (Carrier Specific Customization), so you'll have all Chinese and possibly even carrier bloatware for China.
There is a way to get a G955FD CSC (EU variant) on your G9550 (CN/HK variant) phone by rooting it and flashing a custom ROM and CSC switcher, you can check Nicholaschum's thread in the Discussion section on how to do that. Do keep in mind that doing all that voids KNOX and there is no way to reset the KNOX counter.
However, the Chinese variant has no custom ROMs, and you'd be better off with the Exynos G955FD variant.
I wouldn't recommend going through all the trouble though, the 64GB/4GB S8+ is pretty good on its own. If you pick up a G955FD, and pop in a Netherlands SIM card, it'll automatically switch to the right CSC based on your country and what carrier you're on. This variant can be rooted, has a few decent stock based custom ROMs, and gets software updates more often than the Chinese variant. You will also have no issues about LTE band compatibility since the 955FD fully supports all networks in Netherlands.
murtaza02 said:
@kimi4life
The G9550 is the Chinese/HK variant of the GS8+, and while it does support LTE Bands 3, 7 and 20 (those used by Vodafone NL), the combination of bands, known as Carrier Aggregation (or 4G+), may or may not work. Moreover, VoLTE and WiFi calling (if applicable) will NOT work with this variant.
The reason behind this, is the CSC. Since the G9550 is only sold in China and Hong Kong, it does not have a Netherlands CSC (Carrier Specific Customization), so you'll have all Chinese and possibly even carrier bloatware for China.
There is a way to get a G955FD CSC (EU variant) on your G9550 (CN/HK variant) phone by rooting it and flashing a custom ROM and CSC switcher, you can check Nicholaschum's thread in the Discussion section on how to do that. Do keep in mind that doing all that voids KNOX and there is no way to reset the KNOX counter.
However, the Chinese variant has no custom ROMs, and you'd be better off with the Exynos G955FD variant.
I wouldn't recommend going through all the trouble though, the 64GB/4GB S8+ is pretty good on its own. If you pick up a G955FD, and pop in a Netherlands SIM card, it'll automatically switch to the right CSC based on your country and what carrier you're on. This variant can be rooted, has a few decent stock based custom ROMs, and gets software updates more often than the Chinese variant. You will also have no issues about LTE band compatibility since the 955FD fully supports all networks in Netherlands.
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Thanks a ton for the clear explanation! It would seem the G955FD would be the best choice then. I'm not sure if these are also sold in HK, i'll just check online if they are. Small bummer on the storage space, since I've heard it is not expendable when using the second sim. Then again, if I go abroad I might as well switch out one of the sims and place an SD card.
kimi4life said:
Thanks a ton for the clear explanation! It would seem the G955FD would be the best choice then. I'm not sure if these are also sold in HK, i'll just check online if they are. Small bummer on the storage space, since I've heard it is not expendable when using the second sim. Then again, if I go abroad I might as well switch out one of the sims and place an SD card.
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955FDs aren't available in HK, but the dual SIM S8+ has been launched in the UK and is available in Dubai as well.
In fact, I bought my 955FD in Dubai as well.
murtaza02 said:
955FDs aren't available in HK, but the dual SIM S8+ has been launched in the UK and is available in Dubai as well.
In fact, I bought my 955FD in Dubai as well.
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It has just launched in the Netherlands I heard. Ordered it at the Samsung shop just now - looking forward to it!
kimi4life said:
It has just launched in the Netherlands I heard. Ordered it at the Samsung shop just now - looking forward to it!
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Well, congratulations!
You'll really enjoy it.
murtaza02 said:
Well, congratulations!
You'll really enjoy it.
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Thanks again for the advice! I'll get back to you on the best way to root when I received it
my friend is brining me over a G9550 from HK over the weekend. o2 in the UK have not cleared the s8/s8+ for wifi calling and volte yet, but when they do, where is the link to root and install custom rom and csc on it so i can hopefully get it to work with these services?
im getting the phone for free, so i can't complain with free!
mikey_sk said:
my friend is brining me over a G9550 from HK over the weekend. o2 in the UK have not cleared the s8/s8+ for wifi calling and volte yet, but when they do, where is the link to root and install custom rom and csc on it so i can hopefully get it to work with these services?
im getting the phone for free, so i can't complain with free!
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Check Nicholaschum's thread in the S8+ Forums for the Korean variant.
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Check Nicholaschum's thread in the S8+ Forums for the Korean variant.
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will the korean exynos firmware or custom rom built for that device even work for the snapdragon G9550?!
No need to root for adblocker, you can get adblocker through "Adhell" or "Disconnect for samsung browser" in play store. I don't think rooting is worth it on such a new device with many functions out of the box. Substratum also got samsung support without root.
mikey_sk said:
will the korean exynos firmware or custom rom built for that device even work for the snapdragon G9550?!
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No it won't.
I have a G9550 (6GB/128GB) from Hong Kong and can confirm Vodafone 4G does not work on it, only 3G
nugget123 said:
I have a G9550 (6GB/128GB) from Hong Kong and can confirm Vodafone 4G does not work on it, only 3G
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That's odd considering it supports the necessary bands.
Have you set it to LTE mode?
murtaza02 said:
That's odd considering it supports the necessary bands.
Have you set it to LTE mode?
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I thought it would support it straight out the box too but it only connects to 3G:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsz6fqvop0ke7z3/2017-07-03 08.50.30.png?dl=0
nugget123 said:
I thought it would support it straight out the box too but it only connects to 3G:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsz6fqvop0ke7z3/2017-07-03 08.50.30.png?dl=0
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You sure you have the APNs right?
Dial *#2683662# and tell me if a Service Mode menu pops up.
Erm I did get some OTA configurations when I put my Vodafone sim card in but I didn't accept them settings as it was browser changes and I didn't think they affected my data connection, could they be it?
It said:
service mode
menu not exist
press back to continue
current command is 1000
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I just looked in my access point list in settings and it does come up with Vodafones access point settings
Edited again to add:
I spoke to Vodafone who checked my APN settings and assured me they were correct
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Added the APN settings manually, restarted my phone and now it works with 4G ?
nugget123 said:
I have a G9550 (6GB/128GB) from Hong Kong and can confirm Vodafone 4G does not work on it, only 3G
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i put a vodafone uk sim in it and and it works perfectly on 4G
both slots gve me 4g, o2 in slot 1 and voda in slot 2
only thing i dont get anymore is 4G+ - any help on this?
mikey_sk said:
i put a vodafone uk sim in it and and it works perfectly on 4G
both slots gve me 4g, o2 in slot 1 and voda in slot 2
only thing i dont get anymore is 4G+ - any help on this?
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That's because the Chinese variants don't support carrier aggregation on the same bands used by networks in the UK.
I have 4g+ in china and Hong Kong but not here on voda uk

New update for P20 Pro UK CLT-L29 C782

Got the update other week with June security update
I've just got notified of a new update with July 2018 security update, size 449mb
lucky you - i've got no such update
toge64 said:
lucky you - i've got no such update
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Unlucky you - I've got it and so have others
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Wait, you're just getting 131 update?
I received .131 OTA last night from Three UK. Apart from the security update I can't see any other material differences at the moment.
Single Sim versions are still on 130
KevofCardiff said:
I received .131 OTA last night from Three UK. Apart from the security update I can't see any other material differences at the moment.
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Yeh, but for security update the file is huge, should only need to be around 60mb
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warface said:
Single Sim versions are still on 130
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we will forever be stuck a month or two behind
Any updates on the update?
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This update but for the single SIM variant came through to my phone today. 782MB.
I took the SIM out before checking for updates via Settings.
I'm downloading it now while on holiday in France, EE single SIM version. Would be nice if the wi-fi I'm on was quicker than 528k download.
.134 is now listed on Firmware Finder, over a month after the EU versions get .152!!.... But it won't download!
At this rate, we'll probably get Oreo by November next year?!
Correction: Eu versions have had .152 for 2 months!
krs360 said:
.134 is now listed on Firmware Finder, over a month after the EU versions get .152!!.... But it won't download!
At this rate, we'll probably get Oreo by November next year?!
Correction: Eu versions have had .152 for 2 months!
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Complain to huawei and petition for them to get rid of these stupid uk region updates. We need to all be the c432 version
As far as I know UK is still part of the Europe. I don't know why Huawei think that we don't....
cop1976 said:
As far as I know UK is still part of the Europe. I don't know why Huawei think that we don't....
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its the network operators (three, ee and o2) who have dictated to huawei what the firmware and updates should be. i think vodafone are the only uk network operator that supplied the c432 model which is also for UK, its just the c782 model that is crippled.
So glad I rebranded to C432, see no reason why I should be on firmware 3-4 months old when I can have pie installed right now.
EE are dog****, no reason to delay the updates yet they seem to do it just to piss off their customers.
jimftr said:
So glad I rebranded to C432, see no reason why I should be on firmware 3-4 months old when I can have pie installed right now.
EE are dog****, no reason to delay the updates yet they seem to do it just to piss off their customers.
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I messed about changing an o2 single sim to dual sim but kept it at c782 and the bootloader code changed. Big mistake.
Got so fed up sold it on ebay paid the contract off took it out again on 3 for £12 a month cheaper and rebranded an already dual sim to c432 with no bootloader code changing.
All in all good business. Probably shouldnt of bothered with a huawei phone agajn though too much hassle

P30 from "Asian partners" and OTA

Good day everyone.
I'm planning to change my phone from samsung note 8 to huaweii P30. I consider to buy one from an ebay (UK) - it's been imported from, as seller described it, "asian partners".
I did similar thing with my current Samsung note 8 - it's from UAE region with UK SIM card inside and it doesn't receive OTA updates due to incompatibility of regions (CRC etc).
Does the same problem exist with Huawei phones?
I am planning to buy p30 ele-l29 (dual sim)
yes dont buy it as i came across the same thing. Seller didnt say from where the phone was and once received, firmware region was c900 "global" but doenst receive updates nor warranty is valid.
And since bootloader is locked you cant do anything. Even official local support cant help since this was chinese phone sold to uk and is not supported in my current region (eu)
Thank you!
That was what I expected but wasn't sure.
Cheers mate <3

SM-N9860(HK) or SM-N986N(KR)?

SM-N986N(KR) is being 80$ cheaper than the hong kong version. Should I go for the korean one or hong kong one? Is there any significant difference between the two? Which one usually gets the updates first? Do both of them not support eSim?
HK version as it is dual sim...KR is single sim... No e-sim on HK version., Can't say for the KR, yet it probably won't have e-sim...HK is carrier free, while depending on the version of KR you buy it will have some carrier specific apps installed...Also Samsung Pay has been verified to work in different countries on the HK, while the KR version normally requires a Korean sim for Samsung Pay....Updates just depends, probably KR first but updates from Samsung has been good these days.... As you are be here, there are other threads explaining things extensively, please check those before creating any new threads. I have the HK version and using it in Japan with no problems.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...o-hk-cn-sm-n9860-sd-ultra-5g-dualsim-t4144567
This is a very in-depth thread covering the in and out of the HK version.... If you can swing the extra $80, then it's highly advise to go with the HK version... You also need to verify the frequency bands supported by the HK/KR to ensure they provide the proper coverage for you please cellular service.... frequencycheck.com is a good reference site
cezeff said:
HK version as it is dual sim...KR is single sim... No e-sim on HK version., Can't say for the KR, yet it probably won't have e-sim...HK is carrier free, while depending on the version of KR you buy it will have some carrier specific apps installed...Also Samsung Pay has been verified to work in different countries on the HK, while the KR version normally requires a Korean sim for Samsung Pay....Updates just depends, probably KR first but updates from Samsung has been good these days.... As you are be here, there are other threads explaining things extensively, please check those before creating any new threads. I have the HK version and using it in Japan with no problems.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...o-hk-cn-sm-n9860-sd-ultra-5g-dualsim-t4144567
This is a very in-depth thread covering the in and out of the HK version.... If you can swing the extra $80, then it's highly advise to go with the HK version... You also need to verify the frequency bands supported by the HK/KR to ensure they provide the proper coverage for you please cellular service.... frequencycheck.com is a good reference site
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Thanks for the suggestion. I'm also gonna use it in japan too. How is the battery and overall experience so far?
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Thanks for the suggestion. I'm also gonna use it in japan too. How is the battery and overall experience so far?
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Absolutely love the phone and the battery life for me had been great.... Depending on your mobile provider you get in Japan, will affect battery somewhat, yet I think carrier aggregation really helps out..I have NTT Docomo and no issues at all when though the phone over covers 3 out of 5 bands... You have to let the battery optimization work for about a week... As time goes along the phone will learn your patterns and you will see more and more improvements to the battery life... People expect stellar out of the box without realizing the smart tech and learning curve the battery has to go through... I'm able to use Samsung Pay with the HK model in Japan using US cards, so that's a very big win... Any other Japan specific questions just let me know and be sure to use that "thanks" button in these forums, it goes a long way
Samsung pay works flawlessly with my N986O (HK version) BUT. I can't add my UK loyalty cards as it is expecting HK retailers and shops, but both credit and debit cards added and worked 100% fine, you'll be registered with Samsung Pay HK
Edit 1: Far as loyalty cards go, adding a card not on the list, i.e manually seems to work fine
Has anyone had the chance to test out the Korean N986N in the UK? What's the experience so far?
I upgraded from the Exynos UK to the HK N9860, but I'm getting disappointed in how slow the firmware updates are. It's still on ATH1, while other devices have gone through ATH3/5/9 and now on ATI2/3/5/6.
The Korean N986N looks like it's been getting updates regularly. I was thinking of returning the N9860 and purchasing the N986N, and flash it with KOO unbranded CSC.
Anyone done a similar thing and can give their experience? 5G working OK (UK)? Does the phone still have bloatware on KOO CSC? Does KOO have Smart Call (Hiya)?
Thanks!
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The Korean N986N looks like it's been getting updates regularly. I was thinking of returning the N9860 and purchasing the N986N, and flash it with KOO unbranded CSC.
Anyone done a similar thing and can give their experience? 5G working OK (UK)? Does the phone still have bloatware on KOO CSC? Does KOO have Smart Call (Hiya)?
Thanks!
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Same question here. Would the N986N ever be able to flash another region firmware & CSC in the future? Or it would forever be locked to KR? Thanks!
I'm a totally new Samsung user and regretted not being aware and search about this before getting the KR version, just because it seems to be the cheapest of all Snapdragon variants
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Same question here. Would the N986N ever be able to flash another region firmware & CSC in the future? Or it would forever be locked to KR? Thanks!
I'm a totally new Samsung user and regretted not being aware and search about this before getting the KR version, just because it seems to be the cheapest of all Snapdragon variants
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Can you take a screenshot of your Software Information page (settings>about phone>software information) so we can see which CSC came with your phone? Did it have any logo when you boot up the phone and any bloatware you can't uninstall? Why are you regretting?
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Can you take a screenshot of your Software Information page (settings>about phone>software information) so we can see which CSC came with your phone? Did it have any logo when you boot up the phone and any bloatware you can't uninstall? Why are you regretting?
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Here you go,also no logos. The phone here all present as unlocked. Well I mean they are all unlocked. They don't come tied to a carrier, any software you have to download load on your own as far as carrier specific
roryh86 said:
Can you take a screenshot of your Software Information page (settings>about phone>software information) so we can see which CSC came with your phone? Did it have any logo when you boot up the phone and any bloatware you can't uninstall? Why are you regretting?
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It's KTC, KT Telecom. I have Package Disabler Pro and have disabled most of the KT bloatware. But some stuff are deeply integrated into the OS like Korea localization content in apps & menus, Samsung Daily cards, carrier services in Settings and all. I'm hoping to get rid of them.
Also the inability to use Samsung Pay. At first i thought as long as i buy a variant that's not one of the official models for my country. I won't be able to use Samsung Pay. And that is a trade off I'm willing to make when it comes to performance (my country is Exynos). What I didn't know was there areother Snapdragon variants that can be flashed with an unrestricted CSC from my country and work with Samsung Pay.
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Here you go,also no logos. The phone here all present as unlocked. Well I mean they are all unlocked. They don't come tied to a carrier, any software you have to download load on your own as far as carrier specific
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Ah, that's good news. So the KOO CSC is branding free, no Korean settings integration etc. Have you noticed any features missing? Like Smart Call (Spam identification/Hiya)? VoLTE working outside Korea? 5G working OK?
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It's KTC, KT Telecom. I have Package Disabler Pro and have disabled most of the KT bloatware. But some stuff are deeply integrated into the OS like Korea localization content in apps & menus, Samsung Daily cards, carrier services in Settings and all. I'm hoping to get rid of them.
Also the inability to use Samsung Pay. At first i thought as long as i buy a variant that's not one of the official models for my country. I won't be able to use Samsung Pay. And that is a trade off I'm willing to make when it comes to performance (my country is Exynos). What I didn't know was there areother Snapdragon variants that can be flashed with an unrestricted CSC from my country and work with Samsung Pay.
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Instead of trying to disable the Korean apps, have you tried changing the CSC to the unbranded KOO variant like the user above? I changed my HK N9860 from TGY to BRI, I'm sure you should be able to do the same and change it from KTC to KOO and it will remove all those apps and Korean settings.
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Ah, that's good news. So the KOO CSC is branding free, no Korean settings integration etc. Have you noticed any features missing? Like Smart Call (Spam identification/Hiya)? VoLTE working outside Korea? 5G working OK?.
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To clarify I am in Korea with a Korean simcard in my phone. I made no csc modifications.
There is a hiya service but no settings for that or spam calls.
I don't use 5G service but it should be running fine out of the box on any of the carriers here.
As far as volte outside of korea, given the state of the world it might be a bit before I test that.
pcriz said:
To clarify I am in Korea with a Korean simcard in my phone. I made no csc modifications.
There is a hiya service but no settings for that or spam calls.
I don't use 5G service but it should be running fine out of the box on any of the carriers here.
As far as volte outside of korea, given the state of the world it might be a bit before I test that.
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Oh okay.
So when you go to your Phone app, and go to settings, you don't see an option called "Caller ID and spam protection"?
You should also see at the bottom of the Phone app, next to contacts on the right there should be "Places"
roryh86 said:
Oh okay.
So when you go to your Phone app, and go to settings, you don't see an option called "Caller ID and spam protection"?
You should also see at the bottom of the Phone app, next to contacts on the right there should be "Places"
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No I just have a call recording option there.
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No I just have a call recording option there.
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Damn...

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