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P3113 diference between XAR and XAC

On samobile web site, on firmware section, there is a xar and xac firmware, somenody jnows the difference?
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The CSC is the part of your rom that is specific to the local carrier, e.g. VOD for Vodafone. A list can be found here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Csc) but is doesn't seem to have XAR or XAC.
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Lakland said:
On samobile web site, on firmware section, there is a xar and xac firmware, somenody jnows the difference?
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Use XAR version if your in the USA.
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Lakland said:
On samobile web site, on firmware section, there is a xar and xac firmware, somenody jnows the difference?
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XAR = Cellular South
XAC = N/A

Anyone figure this out?
There still hasn't been an answer as to exactly what the difference between XAR and XAC is.... Anyone figure this out yet?

Wingnut79 said:
There still hasn't been an answer as to exactly what the difference between XAR and XAC is.... Anyone figure this out yet?
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The only thing I'm coming up with is XAR is possibly non modem or USA based and XAC is modem based and outside the USA
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XAR is the version for USA. XAC is the version for Canada.

CSC explained, such as it is, incuding what XAR and XAC mean
Stock OTA update or roms (generally speaking) has to match your specific csc on your devices stock firmware build.
The three letters after the model number signifies: 4 meanings, all valid indicating very different things. The hard part is deciphering what your CSC means and how that effects primarily your ability to upgrade correct software, whats bundled in it and maybe a hint why your not getting a OTA update.
1) the country or region(s) a model was bundled for (often csc for a tablet identity) XAC Canada, XAR Cellular south of USA
2) The carrier product code is firmware bundeled by every cell provider . Each has thier own and a different csc code even when a parent company is servicing a different country or region(s) within a country, Think Virgin Mobile in Europe, UK, USA etc... .
3) The consumer specification code . These are either bundle software by options.. of say Samsung G3 vrs Samsung G3 lite, or Italian vrs English, or Both.... consumer type, app and use options... basically limitations or exceptions between software bundles for same basic model depending on where its being sold. You know, bells, whistles, cultures, even age, sex and race user groups can require important distinct features between standard stock builds multiplied by makes and models. Targeted software, use, design..
4) The customer product code. So you bought a device off web, on sale, not affiliated with any carrier, specific country or region, bulk generic bundles. Eg. travelling abroad with your tablet bought generically over here or buying a GS5 in Tokyo airport on your way home to USA.
Why is that a problem? Depends where you physically are, with a device from? With certain customisations or exceptions and how does OTA connect via unfamiliar local data access but foriegn from the csc perspective. USA CARRIER but Japenese csc...
I suck at explaining but read article I reference down below.... Burners are probably in this work around .
Be certain the build+model+csc is same before choosing a flash rom or upgrading your stock firmware. Odin, Kies etc will likely refuse to flash/sync/upgrade if there is a mismatch in csc more often than any other reason
Here is a helpful, current and informative blog by Wilma Dee that explains csc much better, some great work arounds, csc troubleshooting and major carrier code plus country code lists,
Since I'm new here, I dont know her, I wont post a link but I really feel this paper is worthy of XDA scrutiny and appreciation. Search Google with this title, posted April 15 2014.
How To Change the CSC Code on Samsung Galaxy S5
These are not complete lists, they are Samsung specific, GS5 specific. as she lists them and its alot.
Are the country codes at least unified between all brands? I dont know but not likely.
There are different brands, with differently configured tabs and cells, in different countries and several distinct regions within each country, many data carriers with subsiduary carrier companies in diferent countries, regions, languages, configurations etc etc etc.
No wonder answering what does CSC stands for, means for your device, lists of codes is so hard to do .

[Q] Is there any difference between the Chinese one of OPO and the international one?

I want to buy the OPO but my throwback is the country I live in, Bangladesh. As you know, 16 countries are officially available to the supply of OPO and Bangladesh is not listed on it. Surprisingly one of the dealers in Bangladesh is selling OPO at a rate of $488.75 (US Dollar) for the Chinese Version.
So my query is that is there any difference between the Chinese version and the international version or are they both identical. And why is the Chinese version so widely available where as the International version is as bad as extinct?
Anyone Help? Thanks in advance xD

siam672 said:
I want to buy the OPO but my throwback is the country I live in, Bangladesh. As you know, 16 countries are officially available to the supply of OPO and Bangladesh is not listed on it. Surprisingly one of the dealers in Bangladesh is selling OPO at a rate of $488.75 (US Dollar) for the Chinese Version.
So my query is that is there any difference between the Chinese version and the international version or are they both identical. And why is the Chinese version so widely available where as the International version is as bad as extinct?
Anyone Help? Thanks in advance xD
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Forum
How to flash CM11
One India Thread - Bought Chinese Version(Awaiting Delivery)
OnePlus One 16GB in Stock for $399 at Oppomart?
Double check bandwidths in your country / network provider

mitchilin said:
Google search
First result [good]
Forum
How to flash CM11
One India Thread - Bought Chinese Version(Awaiting Delivery)
OnePlus One 16GB in Stock for $399 at Oppomart?
Double check bandwidths in your country / network provider
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Thanks. Could you tell me if I'm going to be able to use LTE and 3g in USA or in countries in Europe? I'm a student and I'm going to change countries for better education in a year. So I need to know if LTE and 3G will work properly on major carriers in USA or in countries in Europe. Thanks for your help earlier though, really appreciate the time you taken to do the researches for my help. Thanks.

How does OTA work ? (SIM/DNS/IP/Huawei-ID/...) ?

Reading various threads, i am quite heavily confused in understanding how OTA updates work.
Aka: i bought a LON-L29 running LON-L29C636B124 on ebay because in my country (USA), thats the only way i could buy it. So i guess this model was imported from some region like Europe. Then other threads seem to indicate OTA in different european countries happens at different times. Yet other threads offer OTA by pointing to DNS servers with probably faked DNS entries for the OTA servers.
Obviously, i am trying to figure out what i can do to get OTA with the least amount of hacking..
So, how does the phone decide how to get OTA ?
- What role does the SIM play ? Aka: could i improve my chances to get OTA by removing my carriers SIM first (the carrier that is not offering/supporting this phone). I was hoping with this being a carrier independent firmware, it would be out of the picture (had enough of carrier firmware).
- What role does the wifi network i am connecting to play - eg: is there some form of IP geo restrictions for OTA servers (only accepting OTAs from IP addresses in specific contries).
- What role does the build number (LON-L29C636B124) or other IDs in the phone play to select the OTA server ? would all phones with the name build type (LON-L29C636) request the same upgrade ?
- Does any of the huawei ID/accounts created on the phone have an impact ? I created a Huawei ID on the web with USA as the country and the phone was rejecting it. I then created an ID on the phone with country being Germany and that worked.
Sorry, hit me if i missed finding an FAQ that covers this.

te36 said:
Reading various threads, i am quite heavily confused in understanding how OTA updates work.
Aka: i bought a LON-L29 running LON-L29C636B124 on ebay because in my country (USA), thats the only way i could buy it. So i guess this model was imported from some region like Europe. Then other threads seem to indicate OTA in different european countries happens at different times. Yet other threads offer OTA by pointing to DNS servers with probably faked DNS entries for the OTA servers.
Obviously, i am trying to figure out what i can do to get OTA with the least amount of hacking..
So, how does the phone decide how to get OTA ?
- What role does the SIM play ? Aka: could i improve my chances to get OTA by removing my carriers SIM first (the carrier that is not offering/supporting this phone). I was hoping with this being a carrier independent firmware, it would be out of the picture (had enough of carrier firmware).
- What role does the wifi network i am connecting to play - eg: is there some form of IP geo restrictions for OTA servers (only accepting OTAs from IP addresses in specific contries).
- What role does the build number (LON-L29C636B124) or other IDs in the phone play to select the OTA server ? would all phones with the name build type (LON-L29C636) request the same upgrade ?
- Does any of the huawei ID/accounts created on the phone have an impact ? I created a Huawei ID on the web with USA as the country and the phone was rejecting it. I then created an ID on the phone with country being Germany and that worked.
Sorry, hit me if i missed finding an FAQ that covers this.
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OTA`s are set on IMEI numbers, nothing else afaik.

I have the same model as you with the same firmware which I imported to Spain :S
OT: Which seller did you choose in ebay ? I am curious if they made you pay taxes.

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OTA`s are set on IMEI numbers, nothing else afaik.
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They are actually Carrier related. I am in Australia and only received the OTA to B138 when I inserted a Hong Kong SIM.
There is a thread on here about it.
Or you can do a full download, see this link https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/mate-9-mha-l29c636-t3532168

Your phone send a request to Huawei's server for an update. The request includes some information about your phone. One of these includes a field called IMEI. Since the data is encrypted with Huawei's private key, we can't be sure what is included in this data, but my guess is it's both your IMEI and your IMSI.
Although other information is sent, Huawei will tell your phone there is or isn't an upgrade based on your current version, phone model, and the aforementioned IMEI field. They push it initially to some IMEIs, and push it later to others. They may never push it to others.
Your phone is the C636 region, which is the Asia/Pacific region, not Europe.
Anyway, the easiest way to get updates is to use FunkyHuawei. That is able to get you the latest update regardless of whether Huawei wants your specific IMEI to have it. The only other way would be to pay attention to what people with the same phone/branding as you have, and see if they're getting an update. If they are and you're not, you could try finding a Hong Kong or Malaysian SIM card, and seeing if that helps. Otherwise, you can wait.
Not the ideal situation, but Huawei works in mysterious ways, apparently.

Thanks folks for the infos.
Is there a list of what regions the numbers indicate ? C636 being for "asia/pacific" seems to be the one thats peddled on ebay as well.
I clicked on "downloadlatest full package" both with and without US (ATT) SIM inserted, but got nothing (aka huawei tells me B124 is latest). FunkyHuawei has C636B139 though.
My orioginal problem is that i want daydream, and just sideloading vr.vrcore and vr.home was not sufficient. Store does not offer daydream only apps, and sideloaded daydream apps fail to start with an incompatibility popup (which may be possible to get around, but its just maddening).
This thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/mobile-vr/google-daydream-vr/spoofing-daydream-compatible-device-t3534943 seems to explain how to hack up the rest of googles moronic compatibility checks, but i may just wait for a firmware upgrade that officially supports it and then worst case use FunkyHuawei to install it if Huawei does not offer it to me via upgrade.
I guess B139 is not yet introducing official daydream compatibility, or else i am sure some huawei marketing droid would have already posted that info somewhere.

te36 said:
Thanks folks for the infos.
Is there a list of what regions the numbers indicate ? C636 being for "asia/pacific" seems to be the one thats peddled on ebay as well.
I clicked on "downloadlatest full package" both with and without US (ATT) SIM inserted, but got nothing (aka huawei tells me B124 is latest). FunkyHuawei has C636B139 though.
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Here's the list I found from other threads.
These are some of the codes that are used by Huawei:
CUST Region Provider
C02 Europe Vodafone
C10 Russia
C21 Telefonica / O2
C40 Czech Republic Telefonica / O2
C55 Italia TIM
C86 Spain Yoigo
C112 Latin America
C121 Türkei
C123 Switzerland
C150 Telekom
C151 India
C185 Middle East
C209 Asia (Pacific)
C249 Serbia Telekom
C432 Europe
C470 Asia (Pacific)
C605 Colombia
C636 Asia (Pacific)
C637 Spain
C675 India
C900 General Free intern. Version
I would really like to know what the version number for the US model is. If anyone knows please share.
Thanks.

nikooe said:
Here's the list I found from other threads.
These are some of the codes that are used by Huawei:
CUST Region Provider
C02 Europe Vodafone
C10 Russia
C21 Telefonica / O2
C40 Czech Republic Telefonica / O2
C55 Italia TIM
C86 Spain Yoigo
C112 Latin America
C121 Türkei
C123 Switzerland
C150 Telekom
C151 India
C185 Middle East
C209 Asia (Pacific)
C249 Serbia Telekom
C432 Europe
C470 Asia (Pacific)
C605 Colombia
C636 Asia (Pacific)
C637 Spain
C675 India
C900 General Free intern. Version
I would really like to know what the version number for the US model is. If anyone knows please share.
Thanks.
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C567 for US

Do Canadians get updates to the mate 9? Please let me know as it will be a deciding factor in keeping the phone. Thanks

Megatruong said:
Do Canadians get updates to the mate 9? Please let me know as it will be a deciding factor in keeping the phone. Thanks
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You can always use FunkyHuawei to force an update.
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duraaraa said:
Your phone send a request to Huawei's server for an update. The request includes some information about your phone. One of these includes a field called IMEI. Since the data is encrypted with Huawei's private key, we can't be sure what is included in this data, but my guess is it's both your IMEI and your IMSI.
Although other information is sent, Huawei will tell your phone there is or isn't an upgrade based on your current version, phone model, and the aforementioned IMEI field. They push it initially to some IMEIs, and push it later to others. They may never push it to others.
Your phone is the C636 region, which is the Asia/Pacific region, not Europe.
Anyway, the easiest way to get updates is to use FunkyHuawei. That is able to get you the latest update regardless of whether Huawei wants your specific IMEI to have it. The only other way would be to pay attention to what people with the same phone/branding as you have, and see if they're getting an update. If they are and you're not, you could try finding a Hong Kong or Malaysian SIM card, and seeing if that helps. Otherwise, you can wait.
Not the ideal situation, but Huawei works in mysterious ways, apparently.
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Megatruong said:
Do Canadians get updates to the mate 9? Please let me know as it will be a deciding factor in keeping the phone. Thanks
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You can still get updates on your phone. All you need to do is identify which region your phone comes from and put it the right sim card.
In my case, I put in a dead hk sim card because my phone is c636, and it detected update right away over wifi and I'm up to b138 now.

asmok said:
You can still get updates on your phone. All you need to do is identify which region your phone comes from and put it the right sim card.
In my case, I put in a dead hk sim card because my phone is c636, and it detected update right away over wifi and I'm up to b138 now.
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And how can we get this "dead sim cards" without much trouble ? Haha
I have the same C636.

I have the Chinese AL00. model. Besides the first update about a month back when I first had the phone that had the OTA. I have been able to update via the Hicare-service-update manually every time there is a new firmware come out. Wonder if this isn't the same case with international models? BTW, I'm using Chinese AL00 model in Australia and on B165 ATM.

Lodix said:
And how can we get this "dead sim cards" without much trouble ? Haha
I have the same C636.
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Here
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261695989051
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Mostar088 said:
Here
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261695989051
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I had the same problem with my P9+ C636, live in Sweden and never recived OTA to my phone. Asked Huawei support for help and this was there answer.
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting Huawei!
We still did not confirm your mobile phone belong to Hong Kong version or not. If you confirm your phone was Hong Kong version only insert Hong Kong sim card then can receive OTA update. There was no other way to solve if you did not have Hong Kong sim card until now. Thank you.
For further inquiry, please feel free to contact us. Have a nice day!
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giantbike said:
I have the Chinese AL00. model. Besides the first update about a month back when I first had the phone that had the OTA. I have been able to update via the Hicare-service-update manually every time there is a new firmware come out. Wonder if this isn't the same case with international models? BTW, I'm using Chinese AL00 model in Australia and on B165 ATM.
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i did same thing , I use AL00 in Canada will my Bell SIM, every time there is a new update, i can receive it from Hicare. I can keep up to date. Now i changed it to L29C432, dont know if i can get OTA anymore from EU region.

Mostar088 said:
Here
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261695989051
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I had the same problem with my P9+ C636, live in Sweden and never recived OTA to my phone. Asked Huawei support for help and this was there answer.
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting Huawei!
We still did not confirm your mobile phone belong to Hong Kong version or not. If you confirm your phone was Hong Kong version only insert Hong Kong sim card then can receive OTA update. There was no other way to solve if you did not have Hong Kong sim card until now. Thank you.
For further inquiry, please feel free to contact us. Have a nice day!
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Thanks for the link.

i ordered a cheap hongkon SIM card from ebay. lets see.
Is this a huawei specific problem or are other vendors equally obfuscated in dealing with updates ?

te36 said:
i ordered a cheap hongkon SIM card from ebay. lets see.
Is this a huawei specific problem or are other vendors equally obfuscated in dealing with updates ?
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why dont you try to register a Hicare account in the phone region and use that ?
It works for me to upgrade my Chinese Al00 with Canada Bell sim.

jc83419 said:
why dont you try to register a Hicare account in the phone region and use that ?
It works for me to upgrade my Chinese Al00 with Canada Bell sim.
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I agree. Unless international version works differently.

International Unlocked S8 & S8+ In the US

Where are all the people that will be using the exynos variant in the US? I have been using international unlocked (F models) sammy phones since the s6 and I plan on sticking to this model. Where you guys ordering from? I usually get it from ebay (usually never-msrp) but it seems I might have to hold on a little longer as $970 for an 8+ is a little high.

I ordered from SamsungUK.. lets see if they honor the order.

i am checking into this place.
https://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus

It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?

I'll wait for the Duos version a month later from start shipping, I'm using exynos galaxy/notes from the note 2 .

biship said:
It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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I'm not sure. i've never bought intl phone.

I have written to the samsung UK web page and they told me the sim free phone is "locked" to unnlocked you muts make a 5 minut call to a number but from the place the phone was intended to sell, the UK

When you do the checkout on Clove store, you can choose this option: "Samsung’s region lock stops use of this handset within your chosen country unless activated with a European SIM. I agree for Clove Technology to break the seal on the box, activate the phone and remove the region lock by completing a 5 minute call on the handset."

biship said:
It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.

biship said:
It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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Doubt it. Every year on release there is this region lock, but when I get my phones, they're never region locked.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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Oh this sounds more like it. I've never had to deal with region lock..
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osmosizzz said:
Where are all the people that will be using the exynos variant in the US? I have been using international unlocked (F models) sammy phones since the s6 and I plan on sticking to this model. Where you guys ordering from? I usually get it from ebay (usually never-msrp) but it seems I might have to hold on a little longer as $970 for an 8+ is a little high.
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Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?

BarryH_GEG said:
Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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I've got a samsung watch and use samsung pay through it with a Nexus 6P. Think I would be able to do the same with the S8? I use android pay also, so not being able to use samsung pay would not be a deal breaker.
The thing has has me confused about clove is that the device seems to be good bit less expensive than anywhere else. Cost for the S8+ with shipping is only 665 GBP ($829) as opposed to 779 GBP ($971) from Samsung UK site. Is that correct?

luch4galaxy said:
Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
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No I never got Samsung pay to work on the international model. But recently I think they got it to work on the s7 edge somehow.
luch4galaxy said:
Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
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PuffinNugz said:
I've got a samsung watch and use samsung pay through it with a Nexus 6P. Think I would be able to do the same with the S8? I use android pay also, so not being able to use samsung pay would not be a deal breaker.
The thing has has me confused about clove is that the device seems to be good bit less expensive than anywhere else. Cost for the S8+ with shipping is only 665 GBP ($829) as opposed to 779 GBP ($971) from Samsung UK site. Is that correct?
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I just checked clover and the price they showed me was 970 usd once I converted it (771 British pounds). That includes vat and shipping.
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osmosizzz said:
I just checked clover and the price they showed me was 970 usd once I converted it (771 British pounds). That includes vat and shipping.
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When I selected US for shipping, it automatically deleted the VAT option and lowered to 665 pounds. What exactly is VAT and why would I want it?
Nevermind, I see it's a tax, but it removed itself when I selected the US.

PuffinNugz said:
When I selected US for shipping, it automatically deleted the VAT option and lowered to 665 pounds. What exactly is VAT and why would I want it?
Nevermind, I see it's a tax, but it removed itself when I selected the US.
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I just did it on my Computer and you're right..its cheaper than anywhere else. I may just pick it up now
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Just a Newbee question here in regards to using the international models in the US. I am guessing that these international phone can only support GSM here in the US - no LTE on any US carrier.
I get that the international boot loader might be unlocked, and the international phones seem to come carrier unlocked. But if you don't travel international all the time and just live in the US - don't you guy miss the LTE speeds? Or is there any international models that support say ATT LTE bands?
The phone says it supports: LTE Bands 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(AWS), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
And ATT Uses 2, 4, 5, 17 1900, 1700 abcde, 700 bc
So would the internation phone support ATT LTE?

Flame Red said:
Just a Newbee question here in regards to using the international models in the US. I am guessing that these international phone can only support GSM here in the US - no LTE on any US carrier.
I get that the international boot loader might be unlocked, and the international phones seem to come carrier unlocked. But if you don't travel international all the time and just live in the US - don't you guy miss the LTE speeds? Or is there any international models that support say ATT LTE bands?
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LTE works.

PuffinNugz said:
LTE works.
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Thanks for the education! I usually buy TMOB as in the past they have unlocked bootloaders and LTE works on ATT. But if I read the tea leaves correctly, TMOB might be changing that for the S8. I guess no one knows for sure yet for the S8, but generally speaking, have the boot loaders on past Sammy international models usually unlocked?

Advice on buying Galaxy S8+ SM-G9550 6GB version for european market

Hi All,
It's been a long while since I have posted something, but I have been using and reading up on XDA with much gratitude since I joined in 2010. The community represented here is just awesome in every way, and I would like you all to know that. I wanted to ask you guys for advice on the following matter:
I currently own a galaxy note 5 in the Netherlands, which I have purchased in Dubai. I decided on the dual sim model, since I find the dual sim capability for my work and private sim very important. The phone has done me well in the last 18 months (worked without any trouble in NL, and is rooted), but now I think it's time to replace it. My new phone of choice would be the Galaxy S8 plus, preferably the 6GB model. Of course this would also need to be the dual sim version, otherwise I could just buy the normal version here in the Netherlands. I have some friends living over in Hong Kong, which would allow me to buy the phone there.
Now for the hard part. Not only does the phone need to be dual sim, it also needs to support all dutch bands (including volte if possible) and it must be able to be rooted (adblock on its own is enough reason to justify that, let alone all other possibilities). I am used to flashing kernels and roms on my phones, as per the consice instructions found on this forum.
The phone that meets my criteria seems to be the SM-G9550 (6GB) that can be bought in Hong Kong. Would you guys please advise me on whether you think that would function here in the Netherlands and whether I can root it? And if not, what would you advise me to do given the above?
Thanks a ton in advance

@kimi4life
The G9550 is the Chinese/HK variant of the GS8+, and while it does support LTE Bands 3, 7 and 20 (those used by Vodafone NL), the combination of bands, known as Carrier Aggregation (or 4G+), may or may not work. Moreover, VoLTE and WiFi calling (if applicable) will NOT work with this variant.
The reason behind this, is the CSC. Since the G9550 is only sold in China and Hong Kong, it does not have a Netherlands CSC (Carrier Specific Customization), so you'll have all Chinese and possibly even carrier bloatware for China.
There is a way to get a G955FD CSC (EU variant) on your G9550 (CN/HK variant) phone by rooting it and flashing a custom ROM and CSC switcher, you can check Nicholaschum's thread in the Discussion section on how to do that. Do keep in mind that doing all that voids KNOX and there is no way to reset the KNOX counter.
However, the Chinese variant has no custom ROMs, and you'd be better off with the Exynos G955FD variant.
I wouldn't recommend going through all the trouble though, the 64GB/4GB S8+ is pretty good on its own. If you pick up a G955FD, and pop in a Netherlands SIM card, it'll automatically switch to the right CSC based on your country and what carrier you're on. This variant can be rooted, has a few decent stock based custom ROMs, and gets software updates more often than the Chinese variant. You will also have no issues about LTE band compatibility since the 955FD fully supports all networks in Netherlands.

murtaza02 said:
@kimi4life
The G9550 is the Chinese/HK variant of the GS8+, and while it does support LTE Bands 3, 7 and 20 (those used by Vodafone NL), the combination of bands, known as Carrier Aggregation (or 4G+), may or may not work. Moreover, VoLTE and WiFi calling (if applicable) will NOT work with this variant.
The reason behind this, is the CSC. Since the G9550 is only sold in China and Hong Kong, it does not have a Netherlands CSC (Carrier Specific Customization), so you'll have all Chinese and possibly even carrier bloatware for China.
There is a way to get a G955FD CSC (EU variant) on your G9550 (CN/HK variant) phone by rooting it and flashing a custom ROM and CSC switcher, you can check Nicholaschum's thread in the Discussion section on how to do that. Do keep in mind that doing all that voids KNOX and there is no way to reset the KNOX counter.
However, the Chinese variant has no custom ROMs, and you'd be better off with the Exynos G955FD variant.
I wouldn't recommend going through all the trouble though, the 64GB/4GB S8+ is pretty good on its own. If you pick up a G955FD, and pop in a Netherlands SIM card, it'll automatically switch to the right CSC based on your country and what carrier you're on. This variant can be rooted, has a few decent stock based custom ROMs, and gets software updates more often than the Chinese variant. You will also have no issues about LTE band compatibility since the 955FD fully supports all networks in Netherlands.
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Thanks a ton for the clear explanation! It would seem the G955FD would be the best choice then. I'm not sure if these are also sold in HK, i'll just check online if they are. Small bummer on the storage space, since I've heard it is not expendable when using the second sim. Then again, if I go abroad I might as well switch out one of the sims and place an SD card.

kimi4life said:
Thanks a ton for the clear explanation! It would seem the G955FD would be the best choice then. I'm not sure if these are also sold in HK, i'll just check online if they are. Small bummer on the storage space, since I've heard it is not expendable when using the second sim. Then again, if I go abroad I might as well switch out one of the sims and place an SD card.
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955FDs aren't available in HK, but the dual SIM S8+ has been launched in the UK and is available in Dubai as well.
In fact, I bought my 955FD in Dubai as well.

murtaza02 said:
955FDs aren't available in HK, but the dual SIM S8+ has been launched in the UK and is available in Dubai as well.
In fact, I bought my 955FD in Dubai as well.
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It has just launched in the Netherlands I heard. Ordered it at the Samsung shop just now - looking forward to it!

kimi4life said:
It has just launched in the Netherlands I heard. Ordered it at the Samsung shop just now - looking forward to it!
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Well, congratulations!
You'll really enjoy it.

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Well, congratulations!
You'll really enjoy it.
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Thanks again for the advice! I'll get back to you on the best way to root when I received it

my friend is brining me over a G9550 from HK over the weekend. o2 in the UK have not cleared the s8/s8+ for wifi calling and volte yet, but when they do, where is the link to root and install custom rom and csc on it so i can hopefully get it to work with these services?
im getting the phone for free, so i can't complain with free!

mikey_sk said:
my friend is brining me over a G9550 from HK over the weekend. o2 in the UK have not cleared the s8/s8+ for wifi calling and volte yet, but when they do, where is the link to root and install custom rom and csc on it so i can hopefully get it to work with these services?
im getting the phone for free, so i can't complain with free!
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Check Nicholaschum's thread in the S8+ Forums for the Korean variant.

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Check Nicholaschum's thread in the S8+ Forums for the Korean variant.
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will the korean exynos firmware or custom rom built for that device even work for the snapdragon G9550?!

No need to root for adblocker, you can get adblocker through "Adhell" or "Disconnect for samsung browser" in play store. I don't think rooting is worth it on such a new device with many functions out of the box. Substratum also got samsung support without root.

mikey_sk said:
will the korean exynos firmware or custom rom built for that device even work for the snapdragon G9550?!
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No it won't.

I have a G9550 (6GB/128GB) from Hong Kong and can confirm Vodafone 4G does not work on it, only 3G

nugget123 said:
I have a G9550 (6GB/128GB) from Hong Kong and can confirm Vodafone 4G does not work on it, only 3G
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That's odd considering it supports the necessary bands.
Have you set it to LTE mode?

murtaza02 said:
That's odd considering it supports the necessary bands.
Have you set it to LTE mode?
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I thought it would support it straight out the box too but it only connects to 3G:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsz6fqvop0ke7z3/2017-07-03 08.50.30.png?dl=0

nugget123 said:
I thought it would support it straight out the box too but it only connects to 3G:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fsz6fqvop0ke7z3/2017-07-03 08.50.30.png?dl=0
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You sure you have the APNs right?
Dial *#2683662# and tell me if a Service Mode menu pops up.

Erm I did get some OTA configurations when I put my Vodafone sim card in but I didn't accept them settings as it was browser changes and I didn't think they affected my data connection, could they be it?
It said:
service mode
menu not exist
press back to continue
current command is 1000
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I just looked in my access point list in settings and it does come up with Vodafones access point settings
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I spoke to Vodafone who checked my APN settings and assured me they were correct
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Added the APN settings manually, restarted my phone and now it works with 4G ?

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I have a G9550 (6GB/128GB) from Hong Kong and can confirm Vodafone 4G does not work on it, only 3G
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i put a vodafone uk sim in it and and it works perfectly on 4G
both slots gve me 4g, o2 in slot 1 and voda in slot 2
only thing i dont get anymore is 4G+ - any help on this?

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i put a vodafone uk sim in it and and it works perfectly on 4G
both slots gve me 4g, o2 in slot 1 and voda in slot 2
only thing i dont get anymore is 4G+ - any help on this?
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That's because the Chinese variants don't support carrier aggregation on the same bands used by networks in the UK.

I have 4g+ in china and Hong Kong but not here on voda uk